0005268: Targeting has ONE T. - Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Tracker

(0016834)
evilmike (developer)
2012-01-28 05:02

The Oxford English Dictionary uses a single t. As far as I know "targetting" is never correct, although it's one of those words everyone misspells.

(0016835)
XuaXua (reporter)
2012-01-28 07:29
edited on: 2012-01-28 07:29

Right. Either you're backing up what I'm saying or I didn't explain it.

Unless I'm wrong, someone recently went through the code and incorrectly replaced all the "targeting" instances with "targetting".

(0016837)
XuaXua (reporter)
2012-01-28 08:18

Apparently a commit that fixed targetting (and other texts) was reversed because Commonwealth or something.

http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6871f025b85565396327488fb4e9380349f0fb84 [^]

What's Commonwealth?

-The Ugly American

(0016838)
evilmike (developer)
2012-01-28 08:25

The Commonwealth is basically the former British Empire. Although, there's really no such thing as commonwealth English. There's British English, Canadian English, and Australian English, and each country has its own little differences. They tend to be closer to British than American, though.

(0016839)
Kate (developer)
2012-01-28 17:21
edited on: 2012-01-28 17:24

In British English it's "targeting", "cancelling", "levelling" and "travelling", just to be confusing I imagine (so the rest of the commit was correct). I would guess that Australian English is the same, but it might not be.

(0016840)
KiloByte (manager)
2012-01-29 00:03

This is the spelling used in versions made by Linley. It appears he didn't change it in patches he accepted, but still, the earliest use of -t- is 3.31beta02, and -tt- has the majority of uses (was 148:65 at 78d8ab06^).

Google search shows a global usage ratio of 1:7, which is about right compared to other words; somehow, ratios vary wildly: armour 1:14, centre 1:2.8, etc -- not sure what's the reason for such a discrepancy. It's likely it's something more complex than just US-vs-Commonwealth.

So let's nab some Australian and question him :p

(0016841)
Kyrris (reporter)
2012-01-29 13:19

Let's just add a quick dialect-randomizer function that picks US/Commonwealth variants and passes the results into the output streams each time an affected word appears. You could replace all right through the codebase with calls to it. Every time the screen refreshes, the spelling changes!

Xom would approve.

(0016842)
KiloByte (manager)
2012-01-29 13:59

Or perhaps, different en_US and en_AU translations.

(0016845)
jeffqyzt (reporter)
2012-01-30 15:11

I have no comment on doubling letters (I read it fine both ways) but here is a link to a FireFox add-on for Australian English spellcheck...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/english-australian-dictionary/ [^]

(0016846)
XuaXua (reporter)
2012-01-30 20:48

Found a site that gives the best explanation of Commonwealth vs American spelling.

http://us2uk.tripod.com/spelling.htm [^]

I guess it is a matter of choice; I was unaware that Commonwealth spelled these words differently, and searches against Google would auto-correct to a single t for me unless explicitly quoted.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-01-28 04:40	XuaXua	New Issue
2012-01-28 05:02	evilmike	Note Added: 0016834
2012-01-28 07:29	XuaXua	Note Added: 0016835
2012-01-28 07:29	XuaXua	Note Edited: 0016835
2012-01-28 08:18	XuaXua	Note Added: 0016837
2012-01-28 08:25	evilmike	Note Added: 0016838
2012-01-28 17:21	Kate	Note Added: 0016839
2012-01-28 17:24	Kate	Note Edited: 0016839
2012-01-29 00:03	KiloByte	Note Added: 0016840
2012-01-29 13:19	Kyrris	Note Added: 0016841
2012-01-29 13:59	KiloByte	Note Added: 0016842
2012-01-30 15:11	jeffqyzt	Note Added: 0016845
2012-01-30 20:48	XuaXua	Note Added: 0016846
2012-06-15 09:15	neil	Status	new => resolved
2012-06-15 09:15	neil	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.11 development branch
2012-06-15 09:15	neil	Resolution	open => no change required
2012-06-15 09:15	neil	Assigned To	=> neil
2012-06-22 17:30	XuaXua	Status	resolved => closed
2013-12-09 11:17	Kate	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007837

Notes
(0016834) evilmike (developer) 2012-01-28 05:02	The Oxford English Dictionary uses a single t. As far as I know "targetting" is never correct, although it's one of those words everyone misspells.

(0016835) XuaXua (reporter) 2012-01-28 07:29 edited on: 2012-01-28 07:29	Right. Either you're backing up what I'm saying or I didn't explain it. Unless I'm wrong, someone recently went through the code and incorrectly replaced all the "targeting" instances with "targetting".

(0016837) XuaXua (reporter) 2012-01-28 08:18	Apparently a commit that fixed targetting (and other texts) was reversed because Commonwealth or something. http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6871f025b85565396327488fb4e9380349f0fb84 [^] What's Commonwealth? -The Ugly American

(0016838) evilmike (developer) 2012-01-28 08:25	The Commonwealth is basically the former British Empire. Although, there's really no such thing as commonwealth English. There's British English, Canadian English, and Australian English, and each country has its own little differences. They tend to be closer to British than American, though.

(0016839) Kate (developer) 2012-01-28 17:21 edited on: 2012-01-28 17:24	In British English it's "targeting", "cancelling", "levelling" and "travelling", just to be confusing I imagine (so the rest of the commit was correct). I would guess that Australian English is the same, but it might not be.

(0016840) KiloByte (manager) 2012-01-29 00:03	This is the spelling used in versions made by Linley. It appears he didn't change it in patches he accepted, but still, the earliest use of -t- is 3.31beta02, and -tt- has the majority of uses (was 148:65 at 78d8ab06^). Google search shows a global usage ratio of 1:7, which is about right compared to other words; somehow, ratios vary wildly: armour 1:14, centre 1:2.8, etc -- not sure what's the reason for such a discrepancy. It's likely it's something more complex than just US-vs-Commonwealth. So let's nab some Australian and question him :p

(0016841) Kyrris (reporter) 2012-01-29 13:19	Let's just add a quick dialect-randomizer function that picks US/Commonwealth variants and passes the results into the output streams each time an affected word appears. You could replace all right through the codebase with calls to it. Every time the screen refreshes, the spelling changes! Xom would approve.

(0016842) KiloByte (manager) 2012-01-29 13:59	Or perhaps, different en_US and en_AU translations.

(0016845) jeffqyzt (reporter) 2012-01-30 15:11	I have no comment on doubling letters (I read it fine both ways) but here is a link to a FireFox add-on for Australian English spellcheck... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/english-australian-dictionary/ [^]

(0016846) XuaXua (reporter) 2012-01-30 20:48	Found a site that gives the best explanation of Commonwealth vs American spelling. http://us2uk.tripod.com/spelling.htm [^] I guess it is a matter of choice; I was unaware that Commonwealth spelled these words differently, and searches against Google would auto-correct to a single t for me unless explicitly quoted.