IronJelly wrote:If you don't mind me asking (I mean no ill in this):
what is your desperation to play Mountain Dwarves? weren't they removed because other species were too similar anyways (and you'll miss all other additions to the game since then)?
Jabberwocky totally nailed it:
Jabberwocky wrote:There maybe well be a nostalgia factor involved. Mountain dwarfs were a noble heavy armour species.
It's more of the "lore" thing for me. I wanted to play a heavy armour fighter who is not a filthy orc nor a half-beast. Being a dwarf with an axe - a classic generic fantasy stereotype - felt just about right.
Maybe this sounds weird, but I need to like my character on the character creation screen to play the game well. I can't play majority of species not because of the abilities/aptitudes, but because I simply don't like them as species.
I also realised that when I started playing DCSS (early 0.8 versions), I didn't "get" melee combat at all, dying on early floors with any melee character except KoBe, but in contrast having much success with conjuration-based spellcasters. Recently I finally "got" melee chars and now want to win with MDFi - a classic Crawl newbie combo - because I simply have never won with MDFi before. It's like "been to Paris, have a photo of me in front of the Eiffel tower", only "played DCSS, won with MDFi".
Mankeli wrote:If you did not realise, you just made the terrible mistake of mentioning the mountain dwarves, this is what you get when you do. Many people complain about the removal (usually with somewhat poor arguments) and many others are so obsessed with the people who insist on returning the MDs, that you get flamed even if you actually aren't actually complaining about MD-removal, rather just saying
you want to play an older version
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OK, I now understand why all the trolling.
I stopped playing Crawl a couple of weeks before removal took place, so missed all the fun.
I simply pointed out why a later version won't suffice.