Lair Larrikin
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Ask fellow adventurers how to stay alive in the deep, dark, dangerous dungeon below, or share your own accumulated wisdom.
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Squidcat wrote:Do you have a source for them not taking xp?
Slime Squisher
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crawlnoob wrote:you shouldn't worry about losing XP. There is a glut of XP in the game, and if using a given mechanic helps you get some of it easier, it is making your game as a whole easier, not harder.
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mattlistener wrote:Summoners are advised to have a non-allies method for dealing with non-threatening enemies
so as to avoid needlessly missing out on XP.
If Battlesphere and Spectal Weapon were changed to take an XP cut like allies do, then best player behavior would change similarly.
So, the OP's question is a legitimate one
to be concerned about.
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mattlistener wrote:Summoners are advised to have a non-allies method for dealing with non-threatening enemies, so as to avoid needlessly missing out on XP
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nago wrote:don't worry about summons stealing XP. That is not a problem
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Majang wrote:nago wrote:don't worry about summons stealing XP. That is not a problem
This attitude is somewhat inconsistent with the almost anal condemnation of multiple-skill training by optimal players on this forum. How can you be so maniacally worried about missing a breakpoint by a few dozen turns when at the same time you're throwing away heaps of experience to allies and even claim there is too much of it in the game anyway? I'm not questioning your logic of risk vs. reward, which certainly applies to ally-play. It just doesn't align with your behavior elsewhere. Sounds a bit like a chain smoker who maintains an extremely restricted diet to stay healthy...
Playing with tedious allies + skill-micromanaging = a game devoid of fun
VeryAngryFelid wrote:Just check
http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Xp#Experience_Required
22 420500
27 848000
Do you seriously believe there is no significant difference for HP between being XL 22 and XL 27? That's even ignoring skill difference which I am lazy to find now.
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nago wrote:I don't get how this data strengthen your statement or is relevant at all. Yes, generally speaking a xl22 char is weaker than xl27 especially if assuming both have same summons spells. Yes, most probably that xl22 probably won't be able to kill by himself most of dangerous\strong monsters.
However, a xl 22 with strong summons is good to good to win because strong summons kill everything and are among the best defence and panic buttons in the game (btw a char who killed everything by summons should reach Zot around xl 24ish).
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Majang wrote:nago wrote:don't worry about summons stealing XP. That is not a problem
This attitude is somewhat inconsistent with the almost anal condemnation of multiple-skill training by optimal players on this forum. How can you be so maniacally worried about missing a breakpoint by a few dozen turns
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duvessa wrote:Do you have, like...an example of this happening? Anywhere?
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