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Which Are Good Benchmark Monsters for fsim?
Please share the monsters you tend to choose for fsim at various points in the game. Thanks!
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duvessa wrote:I wouldn't want to use shadow dragon since you have to go to the extra effort of giving your character rN+++ to get useful results.
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AC = 0
EV = 0 ghost
EV = 5 hydra
EV = 10 Snorg
EV = 15 giant newt
EV = 20 golden eye
EV = 25 butterfly
AC = 5
EV = 0 deathcap
EV = 5 sphinx
EV = 10 wyvern
EV = 15 giant leech
EV = 20 electric golem
AC = 10
EV = 0 plant
EV = 5 large simulacrum
EV = 10 wraith
EV = 15 Ignacio
EV = 20 Lom Lobon
EV = 25 Mnoleg
AC = 15
EV = 0 bush
EV = 5 snapping turtle (AC = 16)
EV = 6 Ice Fiend
EV = 10 reaper
AC = 20
EV = 0 Roxanne, kraken
EV = 4 iron troll
EV = 6 iron dragon
EV = 10 juggernaut
EV = 20 orb of fire
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neil wrote:duvessa wrote:I wouldn't want to use shadow dragon since you have to go to the extra effort of giving your character rN+++ to get useful results.
That was fixed a while ago, at least assuming nothing has re-broken it since then. Players with draining brand are still a problem for fsim results, though; that commit only prevented draining/mutating of players, not monsters.
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Would be useful for general advice/comparison of weapon types...ie, if you want to know just how badly short blade damage falls off vs high ac targets, etc.
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ManiacJoe wrote:is this +3 hand crossbow I just found worth using at zero skill
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neil wrote:duvessa wrote:I wouldn't want to use shadow dragon since you have to go to the extra effort of giving your character rN+++ to get useful results.
That was fixed a while ago, at least assuming nothing has re-broken it since then. Players with draining brand are still a problem for fsim results, though; that commit only prevented draining/mutating of players, not monsters.
dpeg wrote:The only good player is a dead player.
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Sar wrote:ManiacJoe wrote:is this +3 hand crossbow I just found worth using at zero skill
well, you probably aren't going to test it on Cerebov
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Sar wrote:Well, probably just think of an enemy you might want to use it on. Adders if it's D:2? Orc priests? An ogre?
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AC EV Monster
-3 10 DRACONIAN MONK
-1 0 DRACONIAN ANNIHILATOR
-1 2 DRACONIAN SCORCHER
-1 6 DRACONIAN SHIFTER
0 0 BLACK SUN
0 0 BLOOD SAINT
0 0 CHAOS CHAMPION
0 0 CORRUPTER
0 0 DRACONIAN CALLER
0 0 ghost
0 0 large abomination
0 0 large skeleton
0 0 skeleton
0 0 small abomination
0 0 small skeleton
0 1 giant eyeball
0 2 jelly
0 2 WARMONGER
0 4 small zombie
0 4 zombie
0 5 battlesphere
0 5 fire vortex
0 5 hydra
0 5 spatial maelstrom
0 5 spatial vortex
0 5 the lernaean hydra
0 5 twister
0 6 IRONHEART PRESERVER
0 8 blink frog
0 8 HAROLD
0 8 prince ribbit
0 9 BLORK THE ORC
0 10 ball lightning
0 10 EDMUND
0 10 FRANCES
0 10 FREDERICK
0 10 giant spore
0 10 glowing shapeshifter
0 10 HELL KNIGHT
0 10 IRONBRAND CONVOKER
0 10 JESSICA
0 10 JOSEPH
0 10 JOSEPHINE
0 10 KIRKE
0 10 LAVA ORC
0 10 lost soul
0 10 LOUISE
0 10 lurking horror
0 10 MARGERY
0 10 MAUD
0 10 moth of wrath
0 10 orb of destruction
0 10 ORC
0 10 RUPERT
0 10 shapeshifter
0 10 snorg
0 10 TERENCE
0 11 ball python
0 11 ERICA
0 11 SIGMUND
0 12 BOGGART
0 12 giant frog
0 12 GOBLIN
0 12 MERFOLK AQUAMANCER
0 12 PSYCHE
0 13 CLOUD MAGE
0 13 DEEP ELF ANNIHILATOR
0 13 DEEP ELF CONJURER
0 13 DEEP ELF DEATH MAGE
0 13 DEEP ELF DEMONOLOGIST
0 13 DEEP ELF FIGHTER
0 13 DEEP ELF MAGE
0 13 DEEP ELF PRIEST
0 13 DEEP ELF SORCERER
0 13 DEEP ELF SUMMONER
0 13 DOWAN
0 13 drowned soul
0 13 EUSTACHIO
0 13 FANNAR
0 13 HELLBINDER
0 13 NECROMANCER
0 13 ORC WARRIOR
0 13 WIZARD
0 14 flayed ghost
0 14 MERFOLK JAVELINEER
0 15 DEEP ELF KNIGHT
0 15 DEEP ELF MASTER ARCHER
0 15 giant newt
0 17 hungry ghost
0 18 MERFOLK IMPALER
0 20 AGNES
0 20 golden eye
0 25 butterfly
0 25 DEEP ELF BLADEMASTER
1 0 ballistomycete
1 0 crawling corpse
1 0 fungus
1 0 hyperactive ballistomycete
1 0 macabre mass
1 0 pillar of salt
1 0 toadstool
1 2 hell lord
1 2 pandemonium lord
1 2 player ghost
1 2 player illusion
1 3 acid blob
1 3 ooze
1 4 slime creature
1 4 two-headed ogre
1 5 brain worm
1 5 OCTOPODE
1 5 worm
1 6 ogre
1 7 OGRE MAGE
1 8 ROBIN
1 9 bog body
1 9 NIKOLA
1 9 NORRIS
1 10 ORC PRIEST
1 10 rat
1 10 WIGLAF
1 12 ORC HIGH PRIEST
1 12 ORC WIZARD
1 12 purgy
1 13 MAURICE
1 13 VAULT GUARD
1 13 VAULT SENTINEL
1 13 VAULT WARDEN
1 14 bat
1 14 fire bat
1 14 giant gecko
1 14 vampire bat
1 15 adder
1 15 electric eel
1 18 OCTOPODE CRUSHER
1 18 SPRIGGAN
1 18 SPRIGGAN DRUID
1 18 SPRIGGAN RIDER
1 20 THE ENCHANTRESS
1 22 SPRIGGAN AIR MAGE
2 1 elephant slug
2 1 gastronok
2 4 death ooze
2 4 giant orange brain
2 7 hippogriff
2 7 sheep
2 8 black bear
2 9 crazy yiuf
2 9 DUVESSA
2 9 GNOLL
2 9 GNOLL SERGEANT
2 9 GNOLL SHAMAN
2 9 GRUM
2 9 hell hog
2 9 hog
2 9 holy swine
2 10 faun
2 10 harpy
2 10 HOBGOBLIN
2 10 necrophage
2 12 DEATH KNIGHT
2 12 DEEP DWARF
2 12 DEMIGOD
2 12 DWARF
2 12 HALFLING
2 12 IJYB
2 12 jackal
2 12 KOBOLD
2 12 natasha
2 12 porcupine
2 12 redback
2 12 satyr
2 12 slave
2 12 TENGU
2 12 VINE STALKER
2 13 hound
2 13 KOBOLD DEMONOLOGIST
2 13 ORC KNIGHT
2 13 quokka
2 13 URUG
2 15 JORGRUN
2 15 sea snake
2 15 shock serpent
2 15 ufetubus
2 15 vampire mosquito
2 15 water moccasin
2 17 lava snake
2 17 TENGU CONJURER
2 17 TENGU REAVER
2 17 TENGU WARRIOR
2 18 air elemental
2 18 felid
2 18 killer bee
2 18 shard shrike
2 18 SPRIGGAN BERSERKER
2 20 sixfirhy
2 22 SOJOBO
2 24 SONJA
3 0 DRACONIAN ZEALOT
3 0 fulminant prism
3 1 eye of draining
3 1 shining eye
3 2 DRACONIAN KNIGHT
3 4 hill giant
3 6 menkaure
3 6 mummy
3 7 CENTAUR
3 7 EROLCHA
3 7 orange demon
3 10 ARACHNE
3 10 DONALD
3 10 FORMICID
3 10 giant cockroach
3 10 MONSTROUS DEMONSPAWN
3 10 orb spider
3 10 ORC WARLORD
3 10 SAINT ROKA
3 10 spider
3 10 trapdoor spider
3 10 troll
3 10 wolf spider
3 10 ynoxinul
3 11 grinder
3 11 shadow imp
3 11 swamp drake
3 12 basilisk
3 12 BIG KOBOLD
3 12 fire drake
3 12 swamp worm
3 12 wind drake
3 13 ANUBIS GUARD
3 13 DEEP ELF HIGH PRIEST
3 13 DEMONSPAWN
3 13 HUMAN
3 13 phantom
3 13 PUTRID DEMONSPAWN
3 13 SHADOW
3 13 sky beast
3 13 TORTUROUS DEMONSPAWN
3 14 CRIMSON IMP
3 14 mana viper
3 14 tarantella
3 15 ELF
3 22 SPRIGGAN DEFENDER
4 4 ASTERION
4 4 YAKTAUR
4 6 griffon
4 7 snaplasher vine
4 7 water elemental
4 7 yak
4 8 CENTAUR WARRIOR
4 8 NESSOS
4 10 crocodile
4 10 ghoul
4 10 ugly thing
4 10 white imp
4 10 WIGHT
4 10 worker ant
4 12 fire elemental
4 12 MERFOLK
4 12 merfolk avatar
4 12 neqoxec
4 12 pikel
4 12 SIREN
4 12 warg
4 13 water nymph
4 14 raiju
4 15 black mamba
4 15 wolf
4 16 anaconda
4 18 insubstantial wisp
5 0 deathcap
5 0 wandering mushroom
5 3 cyclops
5 5 sphinx
5 5 tentacled monstrosity
5 5 tentacled starspawn
5 5 YAKTAUR CAPTAIN
5 7 green death
5 7 manticore
5 7 MINOTAUR
5 7 SALAMANDER
5 7 SALAMANDER MYSTIC
5 7 tentacle
5 7 tentacle segment
5 9 alligator
5 9 iguana
5 9 smoke demon
5 10 azure jelly
5 10 hellion
5 10 ice beast
5 10 mottled dragon
5 10 SALAMANDER STORMCALLER
5 10 scorpion
5 10 spectral weapon
5 10 steam dragon
5 10 thrashing horror
5 10 unseen horror
5 10 wyvern
5 11 river rat
5 12 BALRUG
5 12 ORC SORCERER
5 14 hell beast
5 14 wasp
5 15 giant leech
5 15 SALAMANDER FIREBRAND
5 15 silent spectre
5 17 quasit
5 18 ILSUIW
5 20 electric golem
6 0 snaplasher vine segment
6 6 ancient zyme
6 8 IRON IMP
6 9 GUARDIAN MUMMY
6 9 spiny frog
6 10 deep troll
6 10 deep troll shaman
6 10 GREATER NAGA
6 10 NAGA
6 10 NAGA MAGE
6 10 NAGA RITUALIST
6 10 NAGA SHARPSHOOTER
6 10 NAGA WARRIOR
6 10 VASHNIA
6 10 very ugly thing
6 12 dryad
6 12 GELID DEMONSPAWN
6 12 INFERNAL DEMONSPAWN
6 12 jumping spider
6 13 hell hound
6 14 death drake
6 14 guardian serpent
6 14 RAKSHASA
6 16 bennu
7 7 shadow wraith
7 7 swamp dragon
7 8 komodo dragon
7 8 polar bear
7 10 hell rat
7 10 shadow
7 12 chaos spawn
7 12 shadow demon
7 13 entropy weaver
7 13 RED DEVIL
7 14 death scarab
7 14 hornet
8 1 torpor snail
8 2 elephant
8 2 starspawn tentacle
8 2 starspawn tentacle segment
8 4 FIRE GIANT
8 4 the royal jelly
8 5 large zombie
8 5 mutant beast
8 5 spectral thing
8 5 toenail golem
8 6 lindwurm
8 7 MUMMY PRIEST
8 8 elemental wellspring
8 10 ghost moth
8 10 hellwing
8 10 PURPLE DRACONIAN
8 10 soldier ant
8 12 revenant
8 18 aizul
8 18 caustic shrike
9 3 FROST GIANT
9 4 ettin
9 5 apis
9 5 death yak
9 6 fire crab
9 6 ghost crab
9 6 USHABTI
9 9 thorn hunter
9 10 BLACK DRACONIAN
9 10 GREEN DRACONIAN
9 10 MOTTLED DRACONIAN
9 10 RED DRACONIAN
9 10 WHITE DRACONIAN
9 10 YELLOW DRACONIAN
9 11 NERGALLE
9 14 PALE DRACONIAN
10 0 briar patch
10 0 burning bush
10 0 oklob plant
10 0 oklob sapling
10 0 plant
10 0 starcursed mass
10 1 dissolution
10 2 catoblepas
10 2 guardian golem
10 3 great orb of eyes
10 3 polyphemus
10 3 titan
10 4 simulacrum
10 4 small simulacrum
10 5 AZRAEL
10 5 EFREET
10 5 large simulacrum
10 6 demonic crawler
10 6 GREATER MUMMY
10 6 KHUFU
10 8 fire dragon
10 8 ice dragon
10 8 rust devil
10 10 blizzard demon
10 10 gloorx vloq
10 10 jiangshi
10 10 lich
10 10 ophan
10 10 queen bee
10 10 spellforged servitor
10 10 VAMPIRE
10 10 VAMPIRE KNIGHT
10 10 VAMPIRE MAGE
10 10 wraith
10 10 wretched star
10 11 draconian
10 12 lorocyproca
10 12 sun demon
10 13 DAEVA
10 14 MARA
10 15 death cob
10 15 executioner
10 15 ignacio
10 15 JORY
10 15 killer klown
10 15 pearl dragon
10 15 quicksilver dragon
10 17 flying skull
10 20 ANGEL
10 20 CHERUB
10 20 dancing weapon
10 20 lom lobon
10 20 profane servitor
10 20 SERAPH
10 25 mnoleg
10 30 ERESHKIGAL
11 6 apocalypse crab
11 10 cacodemon
12 1 diamond obelisk
12 1 eye of devastation
12 1 ice statue
12 1 obsidian statue
12 1 orange crystal statue
12 1 statue
12 2 stone giant
12 4 worldbinder
12 10 BORIS
12 10 deep troll earth mage
12 10 eidolon
12 10 freezing wraith
12 10 ice devil
12 10 phantasmal warrior
12 12 tormentor
13 0 eldritch tentacle
13 0 eldritch tentacle segment
13 2 dire elephant
13 3 lightning spire
13 3 shambling mangrove
13 10 hellephant
13 10 nellie
13 10 storm dragon
13 13 orb guardian
14 2 chuck
14 3 queen ant
14 4 earth elemental
14 7 molten gargoyle
14 10 blue devil
15 0 block of ice
15 0 bush
15 3 iron golem
15 6 brimstone fiend
15 6 geryon
15 6 ice fiend
15 6 shadow fiend
15 7 golden dragon
15 7 xtahua
15 10 ANCIENT CHAMPION
15 10 reaper
15 10 shadow dragon
15 10 SKELETAL WARRIOR
15 28 MENNAS
16 5 snapping turtle
16 10 GREY DRACONIAN
16 12 the serpent of hell
16 12 the serpent of hell
18 2 the iron giant
18 6 gargoyle
18 10 soul eater
19 1 alligator snapping turtle
20 0 kraken
20 0 roxanne
20 2 boulder beetle
20 2 iron elemental
20 4 bone dragon
20 4 iron troll
20 4 MOON TROLL
20 6 iron dragon
20 10 ancient lich
20 10 juggernaut
20 12 emperor scorpion
20 12 the serpent of hell
20 20 orb of fire
22 0 crystal guardian
22 4 war gargoyle
25 1 curse toe
25 3 hell sentinel
28 4 ANTAEUS
30 7 ASMODEUS
30 8 CEREBOV
30 8 the serpent of hell
30 10 murray
30 10 TIAMAT
35 3 curse skull
40 3 DISPATER
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Sar wrote:Sonja has how much EV???
{
MONS_SONJA, 'K', RED, "Sonja",
M_UNIQUE | M_WARM_BLOOD | M_SPEAKS | M_SPEAKS | M_FEMALE,
MR_NO_FLAGS,
40, MONS_KOBOLD, MONS_KOBOLD, MH_NATURAL, 10,
{ {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 9}, {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 5}, {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 5},
AT_NO_ATK },
{ 6, 0, 0, 30 },
// this next line is AC, EV, other stuff
2, 24, MST_SONJA, CE_NOXIOUS, S_SHOUT,
I_HUMAN, HT_LAND, 14, DEFAULT_ENERGY,
MONUSE_WEAPONS_ARMOUR, SIZE_SMALL, MON_SHAPE_HUMANOID
},
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Sar wrote:Sonja has how much EV???
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Sar wrote:adders have something like 18 EV and yes, it's a silly high EV number for earlygame monsters
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