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dpeg wrote:Then again, good players all agree that the game is won after Lair, so I am sure I'm playing highly inefficently.
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Sandman25 wrote:dpeg wrote:Then again, good players all agree that the game is won after Lair, so I am sure I'm playing highly inefficently.
Damn, I am not a good player
Lair does not have any requirements to be reached. If character is unlucky and found no MR, it can be banished/paralyzed and die easily. If character found no rF+/rMut/rCorr, it can die in Depths/Vaults5/Slime 6/Abyss/Zot easily too.
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dpeg wrote:I agree that post-Lair could pose more problems, but at least as far as my playing style is concerned, mid-game and onwards has become considerably harder than it was.
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Pollen_Golem wrote:It's considered a truism around here that the difficult part is the beginning. That once you get a character to Lair the game is won. But I've found that some players have experienced the opposite, and I can relate. Have you at any time in your Crawl career felt like the game just gets harder from D:1 on? That Crawl is like one of those classic arcade games like Tetris and Snake, where you're bound to fail eventually, and the only question is how far you will get? And what happened that made your perspective flip?
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treerex5 wrote:I usually don't sweat easy game
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dpeg wrote:Then again, good players all agree that the game is won after Lair
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Sprucery wrote:especially shadow traps.
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dpeg wrote:Of course, there'd be an outrage if V:5 (say) actually was deadlier than D:1
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<halberd> !lairratio tenpercenters op
<Sequell> tenpercenters (op) has reached Lair in 410 of 1502 attempts: 27%
<halberd> !woniflair tenpercenters op
<Sequell> tenpercenters (op) has won after reaching lair 161 out of 410 times: 39%
<halberd> !lairratio tenpercenters *
<Sequell> tenpercenters (*) has reached Lair in 8808 of 26390 attempts: 33%
<halberd> !woniflair tenpercenters *
<Sequell> tenpercenters (*) has won after reaching lair 4754 out of 8808 times: 54%
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Berder wrote:tenpercenters are greatplayers with winrate>10%, usable as a reasonable approximation to decent non-speedrun play.
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duvessa wrote:tenpercenters includes syraine for fuck's sake, how can you say that's usableBerder wrote:tenpercenters are greatplayers with winrate>10%, usable as a reasonable approximation to decent non-speedrun play.
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Sandman25 wrote:Does not http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players show correct data? http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/syraine says 0 wins in 1 games.
<halberd> !won syraine
<Sequell> syraine has won 177 times in 5708 games (3.10%): 4xMDFi 3xDDCK 3xDsBe 3xDsFi 3xHOPr 2xDDEE 2xDDHe 2xDDNe 2xGhMo 2xHEWz 2xHOAE 2xMfCr 2xMiAr 2xMiBe 2xNaTm 2xSENe 2xSpEn 2xTeAE 2xTeAr 2xVpSu 2xVpWn 1xCeAr 1xCeAs 1xCeEn 1xCeFE 1xCeGl 1xCePa 1xCeTm 1xCeWz 1xDDAs 1xDDFi 1xDECj 1xDEGl 1xDEMo 1xDEWz 1xDgCj 1xDgRe 1xDgSt 1xDgWz 1xDrAE 1xDrCr 1xDrEE 1xDrHe 1xDrIE 1xDrMo 1xDrSu 1xDrTm 1xDrVM 1xDsAM 1xDsAr
<Sequell> 1xDsCK 1xDsGl 1xDsHu 1xDsMo 1xDsVM 1xDsWn 1xDsWz 1xFeAK 1xFeMo 1xFeNe 1xGhAE 1xGhAs 1xGhGl 1xHEAr 1xHECj 1xHEGl 1xHEHe 1xHEMo 1xHOEn 1xHOFE 1xHOHu 1xHOVM 1xHaAs 1xHaBe 1xHaDK 1xHaFE 1xHaFi 1xHaNe 1xHaPr 1xHaVM 1xHuCK 1xHuPr 1xHuSt 1xHuVM 1xHuWr 1xKoAE 1xKoAr 1xKoBe 1xKoEn 1xKoHu 1xMDBe 1xMDEE 1xMDGl 1xMDNe 1xMDPa 1xMfBe 1xMfIE 1xMfPa 1xMfPr 1xMfSt 1xMfTh 1xMfVM 1xMiCK 1xMiGl 1xMiHe 1xMiMo 1xMuAr
<Sequell> 1xMuJr 1xMuMo 1xMuVM 1xNaPr 1xOgAM 1xOgEE 1xOgFE 1xOgJr 1xOgMo 1xOpAE 1xOpEE 1xOpFE 1xOpGl 1xOpMo 1xOpWr 1xSEDK 1xSEGl 1xSEHe 1xSEIE 1xSEVM 1xSpIE 1xTeCK 1xTeCj 1xTeFE 1xTeGl 1xTeHe 1xTePr 1xTeWz 1xTrAE 1xTrAM 1xTrAr 1xTrAs 1xTrCr 1xTrEn 1xTrHe 1xTrIE 1xTrPr 1xTrWn 1xVpAE 1xVpAr 1xVpGl 1xVpIE 1xVpTm
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Sandman25 wrote:So 46% characters played by tenpercenters die after Lair... "Game is won after reaching Lair" is a lie, let's remember that.
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Berder wrote:duvessa wrote:tenpercenters includes syraine for fuck's sake, how can you say that's usableBerder wrote:tenpercenters are greatplayers with winrate>10%, usable as a reasonable approximation to decent non-speedrun play.
No it doesn't. syraine has a 3.10% winrate.
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duvessa wrote:syraine plays on mikee
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Sandman25 wrote:So 46% characters played by tenpercenters die after Lair... "Game is won after reaching Lair" is a lie, let's remember that.
<Lasty_> !lg lasty !won place=D:1|D:2|D:3|D:4|D:5|D:6|D:7
<Sequell> 158. Lasty the Cudgeler (L4 OpBe of Trog), slain by laxity's ghost on D:4 on 2015-06-08 12:55:30, with 98 points after 2201 turns and 0:04:48.
<Lasty_> !lg lasty !won place!=D:1|D:2|D:3|D:4|D:5|D:6|D:7
<Sequell> 128. Lasty the Basher (L11 DrAK of Lugonu), slain by a four-headed hydra on D:10 on 2015-06-07 13:47:01, with 11783 points after 15603 turns and 0:42:02.
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