Berder wrote:Greyr wrote:These "pure casters" are still using weapons quite a bit.
Which is completely irrelevant because they only use weapons on popcorn. Their best damage is coming from magic, which is the entire point.
Now that I'm fully vindicated by actual facts, I'm now willing to discuss what "use" these terms are. Here's one use: in a different thread some people were claiming it's possible to be a fighter-mage in plate, using it to claim that magic in plate is just as good as magic in light armor. No, it's possible to cast some support magic in plate, but you still have to deal your main damage with your weapon. The establishment of a distinction between fighter and mage here, and the facts backing up that distinction, clarify that point.
Here's another use: the division between fighters (and the kinds of spells fighters can get use out of) and mages is just a basic fact about the game. Knowing that fact, and not denying it, means accepting the truth.
Also, there's a huge tactical difference in gameplay between a fighter (with support magic) and a mage. Fighters use tabbing and melee tactics and don't care about MP, mages use a great variety of spells and watch MP like a hawk.
It's not completely irrelevant, actually. Suddenly all of that "popcorn" becomes a potentially lethal MP expenditure that could have otherwise just been mopped up with a melee weapon. MP usage is very important, as you yourself point out in your last paragraph.
"Facts". No, all you posted was a bunch of replays where you extrapolated and contorted what you see as "facts", but in fact, it's just you chasing your own tail. Again, as I said, many of what you classify as "pure casters" used a melee weapon quite a bit.
Anyway, I don't have anything more to say. Your last post seemed to lack any real content and/or knowledge of how the game actually works. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, however, and just assume that even after many top players (those better than yourself mind you) disagree or disregard your classifications entirely you still push your point because you've already invested too much into the argument and don't want to accept that maybe the collective majority/experience knows best.
Yes, I agree, "villains" is MUCH more palatable.
If you are offended by something I've posted, just PM me. It probably wasn't intentional.