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0008208 [DCSS] Patches minor N/A 2014-02-24 23:58 2014-05-01 17:32
Reporter argonaut View Status public  
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Priority normal Resolution open  
Status new   Product Branch 0.14 ancient branch
Summary 0008208: New spell: Wind Wall
Description This replaces the Repel Missiles spell in the early books and I hope is more interesting tactically (although I'm sure it's a net downgrade). While RM is now a lot less tedious it's also much more of a no-brainer.

Wind Wall should probably be a level 2 or 3 air-only spell to match Airstrike and Tornado but I kept it the same as RM to avoid too many balance issues. There's also an obvious extension to Ring of Winds but I'll see how this is received first.
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Attached Files ? file icon 0001-wind-wall.patch [^] (7,320 bytes) 2014-02-24 23:58 [Show Content]
? file icon 0001-Add-Wind-Shield-spell-and-replace-deflect-missiles-w.patch [^] (8,729 bytes) 2014-04-11 23:31 [Show Content]
? file icon 0002-missing-new-line.patch [^] (683 bytes) 2014-04-11 23:32 [Show Content]
? file icon 0003-Add-Wind-Shield-spell-and-replace-deflect-missiles-w.patch [^] (8,729 bytes) 2014-04-11 23:32 [Show Content]
? file icon 0004-Buff-Tornado-to-block-missiles.patch [^] (1,060 bytes) 2014-04-11 23:32 [Show Content]
? file icon 0001-Argonaut-s-patches-spells-squashed-rebased-by-blackc.patch [^] (13,494 bytes) 2014-04-15 01:27 [Show Content]

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(0025818)
argonaut (reporter)
2014-04-11 23:39

Updated Wind Wall to version 0.15-a0-115-g6528480.

I've also added Wind Shield which does the same thing but moves around like ring of flames. It replaces Deflect Missiles in the book of the Sky but I left DM in the book of enchantments.

The last patch also lets Tornado blow down missiles.

There's a nice progression from wind wall -> wind shield -> tornado.
(0025833)
blackcustard (reporter)
2014-04-15 01:25
edited on: 2014-04-15 01:29

No comments for 3 months. I'm sorry :(.

@everyone
If you want to try these spells, use the sixth patch and ignore the first five. It should apply cleanly on trunk.

@argonaut
Your patches are ... messed up somehow. I stitched three of them (the first, third, and fourth) together, smoothed over the compilation errors, and uploaded a squashed version so people can test your spells, but after you get some feedback you probably want to remake the patches on your end.

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I tried the spells, didn't play a full game or anything, just messed around with some centaurs in wizmode.

Wind wall is pretty cool.

I'm not so sure about wind shield. It seems a lot like old RMsl/DMsl really, you cast it and then missiles hit you less until it runs out. Wind wall has this positioning mechanic that makes things interesting. Maybe it is good to have it for consistency with wind wall?

The new tornado effect is definitely thematic, but again, it seems like its just a free RMsl with your tornado. (And I hear tornado is pretty strong anyway? (I have not used it personally.))

But again, wind wall is cool. What do other people think?

(0025850)
argonaut (reporter)
2014-04-17 16:06

Thanks for the feedback on Wind Wall. Wind Shield is similar to the old DMsl but I thought it would be high enough level to prevent spamming it all the time (like the old RMsl). Maybe it should also make some noise when its on.

The tornado effect is there because I figured that if you had tornado you'd usually have had R/DMsl on anyway so rolling it in wouldn't change much and the new spells don't mesh with tornado.
(0026002)
Kate (developer)
2014-05-01 17:32
edited on: 2014-05-01 17:32

Just noting that I do intend to take a look at these patches when I get a chance, I think ideally having one mid-level spell to replace both RMsl and DMsl might be best. Especially if the storm god ends up being merged (provides RMsl and DMsl passives), replacing the spells could be good, but even otherwise they're definitely somewhat problematic as-is.


- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2014-02-24 23:58 argonaut New Issue
2014-02-24 23:58 argonaut File Added: 0001-wind-wall.patch
2014-03-08 15:46 Kate Issue Monitored: Kate
2014-03-28 09:49 Kate Issue End Monitor: Kate
2014-04-11 23:31 argonaut File Added: 0001-Add-Wind-Shield-spell-and-replace-deflect-missiles-w.patch
2014-04-11 23:32 argonaut File Added: 0002-missing-new-line.patch
2014-04-11 23:32 argonaut File Added: 0003-Add-Wind-Shield-spell-and-replace-deflect-missiles-w.patch
2014-04-11 23:32 argonaut File Added: 0004-Buff-Tornado-to-block-missiles.patch
2014-04-11 23:39 argonaut Note Added: 0025818
2014-04-15 01:25 blackcustard Note Added: 0025833
2014-04-15 01:27 blackcustard File Added: 0001-Argonaut-s-patches-spells-squashed-rebased-by-blackc.patch
2014-04-15 01:29 blackcustard Note Edited: 0025833
2014-04-15 01:29 blackcustard Note Edited: 0025833
2014-04-16 01:24 Kate Issue Monitored: Kate
2014-04-17 16:06 argonaut Note Added: 0025850
2014-05-01 17:32 Kate Note Added: 0026002
2014-05-01 17:32 Kate Note Edited: 0026002
2014-05-01 17:32 Kate Note Edited: 0026002
2021-04-20 07:52 Kate Issue End Monitor: Kate


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