0005899: Sabres - Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Tracker

(0019803)
dd (updater)
2012-09-01 16:08

any feedback on these? need changes, anything?

(0019804)
Galefury (updater)
2012-09-01 16:50

I think the elven ones are easy to confuse with a falchion. The rest looks nice. They all look a lot like long blades, but that's a problem with the things being called sabre.

(0019822)
dd (updater)
2012-09-01 21:25

what exactly would you say is the problem with them? should the blade be more narrow, less curved...?

(0019824)
roctavian (developer)
2012-09-01 22:27

I'd say they should be narrower.

(0019825)
white_noise (reporter)
2012-09-01 22:27
edited on: 2012-09-01 22:29

More narrow maybe, but curve is good. I think all other blades need some curve as well. It is sabers after all.

(0019826)
KiloByte (manager)
2012-09-02 01:15

Our falchion tiles are MASSIVELY lacking in the breadth department.

(0019827)
Galefury (updater)
2012-09-02 01:18

IMO nothing is wrong with the tiles (except with the elven ones), but the name of the weapon doesn't fit the short blades weapon class, and the tiles of course fit the name. This isn't your fault. Making them narrower would make them look like foils, which still isn't really a short blade, but at least a light blade. IMO it's okay that the tiles look like sabres, the weapon is called sabre after all.

(0019828)
KiloByte (manager)
2012-09-02 01:24

Galefury: our distinction between "short" and "long" blades is pretty artificial. Especially if you consider that scimitar (in Crawl, the best non-magic long blade) is just a type of sabre.

(0019860)
dd (updater)
2012-09-02 16:15

Actually, there's really no such thing as a "scimitar"... it's a name that has been used to refer to several types of usually Arabic sabre-like blades...

Personally, I think falchion and sabre should switch places, making falchion a short blade and sabre a long blade, but it's really quite a trivial issue and probably might cause some confusion for players without really adding much benefit...

Also, @w_n - historically, not all sabres were curved, and the elven weapons have become associated with curvyness more than the others, so I think it's fine for the other blades to remain straight...

(0019861)
dd (updater)
2012-09-02 16:31

Ok, I edited the elven ones a bit to make them somewhat narrower, it's not a huge difference but it rarely is when we're talking about an image of 1024 pixels... I also edited the dwarven ones slightly, to make the hilt more noticeable, thus differentiating it from dwarven falchion.

(0019941)
ontoclasm (developer)
2012-09-05 06:17

Added; cheers.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-07-09 17:20	dd	New Issue
2012-07-09 17:20	dd	File Added: sabres.png
2012-09-01 16:08	dd	Note Added: 0019803
2012-09-01 16:12	edlothiol	Issue Monitored: edlothiol
2012-09-01 16:50	Galefury	Note Added: 0019804
2012-09-01 21:25	dd	Note Added: 0019822
2012-09-01 22:27	roctavian	Note Added: 0019824
2012-09-01 22:27	white_noise	Note Added: 0019825
2012-09-01 22:29	white_noise	Note Edited: 0019825
2012-09-02 01:15	KiloByte	Note Added: 0019826
2012-09-02 01:18	Galefury	Note Added: 0019827
2012-09-02 01:24	KiloByte	Note Added: 0019828
2012-09-02 16:15	dd	Note Added: 0019860
2012-09-02 16:27	dd	File Added: sabres-x1.png
2012-09-02 16:27	dd	File Added: sabres-1.png
2012-09-02 16:31	dd	Note Added: 0019861
2012-09-04 13:57	dd	File Deleted: sabres.png
2012-09-05 06:17	ontoclasm	Note Added: 0019941
2012-09-05 06:17	ontoclasm	Status	new => resolved
2012-09-05 06:17	ontoclasm	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.12 development branch
2012-09-05 06:17	ontoclasm	Resolution	open => done
2012-09-05 06:17	ontoclasm	Assigned To	=> ontoclasm

Notes
(0019803) dd (updater) 2012-09-01 16:08	any feedback on these? need changes, anything?

(0019804) Galefury (updater) 2012-09-01 16:50	I think the elven ones are easy to confuse with a falchion. The rest looks nice. They all look a lot like long blades, but that's a problem with the things being called sabre.

(0019822) dd (updater) 2012-09-01 21:25	what exactly would you say is the problem with them? should the blade be more narrow, less curved...?

(0019824) roctavian (developer) 2012-09-01 22:27	I'd say they should be narrower.

(0019825) white_noise (reporter) 2012-09-01 22:27 edited on: 2012-09-01 22:29	More narrow maybe, but curve is good. I think all other blades need some curve as well. It is sabers after all.

(0019826) KiloByte (manager) 2012-09-02 01:15	Our falchion tiles are MASSIVELY lacking in the breadth department.

(0019827) Galefury (updater) 2012-09-02 01:18	IMO nothing is wrong with the tiles (except with the elven ones), but the name of the weapon doesn't fit the short blades weapon class, and the tiles of course fit the name. This isn't your fault. Making them narrower would make them look like foils, which still isn't really a short blade, but at least a light blade. IMO it's okay that the tiles look like sabres, the weapon is called sabre after all.

(0019828) KiloByte (manager) 2012-09-02 01:24	Galefury: our distinction between "short" and "long" blades is pretty artificial. Especially if you consider that scimitar (in Crawl, the best non-magic long blade) is just a type of sabre.

(0019860) dd (updater) 2012-09-02 16:15	Actually, there's really no such thing as a "scimitar"... it's a name that has been used to refer to several types of usually Arabic sabre-like blades... Personally, I think falchion and sabre should switch places, making falchion a short blade and sabre a long blade, but it's really quite a trivial issue and probably might cause some confusion for players without really adding much benefit... Also, @w_n - historically, not all sabres were curved, and the elven weapons have become associated with curvyness more than the others, so I think it's fine for the other blades to remain straight...

(0019861) dd (updater) 2012-09-02 16:31	Ok, I edited the elven ones a bit to make them somewhat narrower, it's not a huge difference but it rarely is when we're talking about an image of 1024 pixels... I also edited the dwarven ones slightly, to make the hilt more noticeable, thus differentiating it from dwarven falchion.

(0019941) ontoclasm (developer) 2012-09-05 06:17	Added; cheers.

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