0001344: Provide a way to view unarmed damage - Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Tracker

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(0004138) OG17 (reporter) 2010-04-12 00:16	Why specifically for unarmed? Weapon effectiveness is, at best, no less of a question mark, as shown by the constant "is x better than y with z skill?" and "how much x skill should I have to use y?" questions. A character's current adjusted hit, damage, and delay should be shown on item descriptions, if not also the % screen (for unarmed, if nothing else) or something more visible - something so integral to character success should certainly be displayed somewhere. This can include disclaimer text like "With your current attributes, equipment, statuses, and skills, this weapon does blah" to make it clear that the stats fluctuate with armor, buffs, and a hundred other things, if you like, but the fact that it's so complicated is in itself reasoning for why a display is needed.

(0004220) Cryptic (developer) 2010-04-13 04:56	The reason such elaborate information isn't shown is because its a) complicated, b) most players aren't interested in it necessarily and c) such definitive information is clearly a spoiler. Some basic information might be appropriate, but I don't think you'll ever see current to-hit / dmg / attack speed values. You MIGHT get base values, but that's it. Regarding transmutations, their bonuses to combat effectiveness are a reflection of their spell power, this is transparent enough for most players, I think. If you're more interested in the exact values, reading the source is your (only) best route.

(0004258) b0rsuk (updater) 2010-04-14 07:16	The reason "such elaborate information" isn't provided is because Unarmed Combat is not an item. This is why it's not possible to examine Unarmed Combat with i-letter combination. All weapons can be examined to see their base damage, toHit and attack speed. I'm not suggesting to give Unarmed special treatment - just bring its documentation level up to that of other weapons.

(0004262) rob (developer) 2010-04-14 12:06	I've included this suggestion (thanks!) in the new wiki page at https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:interface:combat_info [^] More input there is very welcome. Closing.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-11 23:39	b0rsuk	New Issue
2010-04-12 00:16	OG17	Note Added: 0004138
2010-04-13 04:56	Cryptic	Note Added: 0004220
2010-04-14 07:16	b0rsuk	Note Added: 0004258
2010-04-14 12:06	rob	Note Added: 0004262
2010-04-14 12:06	rob	Status	new => closed
2010-04-14 12:06	rob	Resolution	open => suspended
2010-04-14 12:06	rob	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.7 development branch

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