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[DCSS] FR: Gameplay Balancing

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2009-12-24 14:09

2010-09-12 18:41

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0000240: Unnerf spell enhancers

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In DCSS 0.1, spell enhancers (rings of fire/ice, staves, robe of archmagi) have been nerfed into uselessness. I think it's fair to say that the main use of rings of fire/ice is the resistance, and the main use of staves is the resistance or the attack effect.

The nerf consisted of two parts:
a)spell staves have no wizardry effect anymore (apart from the staff of wizardry, of course)
b) the stepdown function was not applied to enhancers but now is

I think that both ideas are reasonable and we should keep a) -- it's not good to mix spell success boost and spell power boosts. However, applying the stepdown is what makes the powerbost (spellpower*1.5) essentially useless. There are several options:
1) Apply less stepdown to enhancers (this would be a mix of pre-0.1 (with no stepdown applied at all) and current )full stepdown applied) states).
2) Remove stepdown for enhancers but reduce enhancer multiplier from 1.5 to 1.3 (say).

There was also the idea to make enhancers not work multilpicatively, but I don't like that very much. Also, it wouldn't affect single enhancers, obviously.

Please note that enhancers (and casting in general) was way overpowered in 4.0.0b26 -- the nerfs appeared for a good reason.

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(0000620) syllogism (updater) 2009-12-26 14:13	If they are unnerfed I think it might be reasonable to further nerf elemental staff damage as they are still potentially the best weapons in the game especially as you can use them one-handed

(0000630) dpeg (administrator) 2009-12-26 20:48	Staves will get a proper overhaul at some point anyway (hopefully getting randart versions as well); not for 0.6 though. Any ideas for how to unnerf the enhancers in a good way?

(0008492) evktalo (administrator) 2010-09-12 18:41	Wikified, https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:effect:spell_enhancers [^] --Eino

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2009-12-24 14:09	dpeg	New Issue
2009-12-26 14:13	syllogism	Note Added: 0000620
2009-12-26 20:48	dpeg	Note Added: 0000630
2010-09-12 18:41	evktalo	Note Added: 0008492
2010-09-12 18:41	evktalo	Status	new => closed
2010-09-12 18:41	evktalo	Resolution	open => suspended
2010-09-12 18:41	evktalo	Fixed in Branch	=> 0.8 development branch

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