Comments on: Trunk Updates, 7 June 2015

By: KB

KB — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:58:50 +0000

Rikonman trolling us? :D
It was just a small remaining piece of code related to the already removed unique monster Pan.
See https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ef4880bea6a38ebe31af861e167d71d6a0d43da1 !

By: flinch

flinch — Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:23:06 +0000

Also see:
http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Pan_%28monster%29

By: qwesdf

qwesdf — Fri, 19 Jun 2015 21:58:17 +0000

@Rikonman
I’m 99% sure that’s the joke entry every trunk update has a the end.

By: Rikonman

Rikonman — Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:50:09 +0000

All those things seem ok with me, except… removing pan? Seriously? Why!? You guys better be replacing it with something awesome, why in god’s name would you remove a 5 rune branch? Don’t get me wrong, I’ve only been to pan twice, but still I was really hoping in the next tourney I could get a 15 rune game done. The last couple patches have removed many things I love from crawl, and this might just be the nail in the coffin for me. I’ve been playing off and on since .6, and if they’re seriously going to remove an entire freaking branch that was pretty interesting, I seriously will debate stopping playing entirely. Every patch is just making the game easier and easier, and this change just makes no sense to me. I already have switched to ToME, and only play Crawl during tournaments, please stop destroying the game I love. For god’s sake, make a version where you’ve added back everything you’ve removed, because while some of the patches did add things I like, the things that have been removed greatly outweigh them. Please stop killing Crawl!

By: matt

matt — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:01:22 +0000

next they’ll remove shafts.

By: mutex

mutex — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:45:47 +0000

You are killing it slowly, and you know it.

to:Adamo
Your words bring memories, memories of joyful pain. Respect.
Everyone else should read it and think hard. Making a game easyer wont make it better especially if its pure core is all about the oposite. You have to die in RL, you must, in a most fun, stupid, bloody gore way you can. Then again, you must survive in any imaginable way. The game has to be vicious so it can be triggered. The combination of that makes a WIN so special, rare and memorable.

By: Hubbles

Hubbles — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 00:06:16 +0000

I understand some of the saltiness in here, but I enjoy the changes. I like having to adapt to changing mechanics and creatures every few months, in my mind it keeps the game fresh.

For those who like old crawl: http://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-ref/files/Stone%20Soup/

It ain’t going anywhere.

By: Adamo

Adamo — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:09:50 +0000

Oh, people…

…

Where are the good old times, when the scrolls were burnable, when you could loose your potions, when things had weight, when acid corroded weapons permanently, when you could be incidentally pushed into the water, when points of intelligence below zero caused instant death. When a single jelly could eat the artifact! When you were scared! Now THAT was a game.

DC is just too f** easy now!

Please bring back the OLD THREATS!!!

By: Brickman

Brickman — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 14:44:25 +0000

You guys are being silly. Some of the earlier ones were iffy, but I think every one of the changes in this set are in improvement except maybe the deep dwarf ghost and legendary destruction changes (which both technically make things harder, but simpler).

The vampiric draining thing made me laugh because of how much of an edge case it is though.

By: flinch

flinch — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:52:58 +0000

Can’t understand all that hating since the versions from the times when everything was seemingly better are still there. Furthermore I guess its not that big of a deal to copy-paste old functionalities into the new code if you’re banking on wanting Gyre and Gymble in the 0.9 build.

Pleasing fungus and co., keep up the good work, don’t let them people wear you down!

By: mummy

mummy — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:38:55 +0000

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A NEW PLAYER AND WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE ABILITY TO DAMAGE MYSELF WITH VAMPIRIC DRAINING. GOOD TIMES

By: NonTourneyAnonS7

NonTourneyAnonS7 — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 01:20:10 +0000

@Sad:

That makes a lot of sense. A pity, it’s caused Crawl to be less appealing with every new release. And, after playing v.13 for a while then jumping into v.16, it was really disappointing how easy things felt.

It was fun, but think I’m going to start looking for a different roguelike that captures the feel old crawl used to have. Anyone out there have suggestions on which to try?

By: Saaaaaaaaaaaaad

Saaaaaaaaaaaaad — Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:21:56 +0000

The old schoolers just got bored with details that don’t attract them anymore, but did in the past, when they were newbies and all that added to the magic and fun.

Now today, for them, the game with those details just takes away their time in tournaments and casual games, so they just want to simplify things. Crawl is becoming a professional tournament game only, for the satisfaction of the oldest players.

By: Hubbles

Hubbles — Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:45:34 +0000

“Sticks to Snakes now takes arrows from the inventory, rather than requiring them to be wielded.”

Hallelujah

“Weapon descriptions now list the skill level required to reach minimum attack delay.”

10/10

“You can no longer die by casting Vampiric Draining on a tile with an invisible demon on it.”

Someone must have been super salty over this one

By: SadPanda

SadPanda — Wed, 10 Jun 2015 05:21:45 +0000

Please don’t remove complexity, it will downgrade one of the greatest modern roguelike into a plain roguelite.