Comments on: 0.16 Tournament Results

By: hubbles

hubbles — Sun, 05 Apr 2015 13:04:49 +0000

Thinking of a phenomenon similar to win rates increasing, I thought of athletic progression:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_high_jump_world_record_progression

In high jump, and most other sports, the bar (literally and figuratively) has been being pushed higher & farther. I don’t see why DCSS should be any different, as more and more players become long-term players, and information/strategies is/are more readily available. Also, 2.03% is not exactly indicative of an easy game, but it could mean that recent updates have helped to whittle down on total-luck deaths, eg: “You fell down a shaft two levels!” from D1 to D3, and are suddenly surrounded by 3 uniques with no means of escape.

By: SlowGraham

SlowGraham — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:50:54 +0000

Thanks!

Higher win rates may also be the result of a higher concentration of good players.

By: mps

mps — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 23:32:21 +0000

Higher win rates are to be expected as regular players get better at the game and the generally improved understanding of it percolates to newer players.

By: PleasingFungus

PleasingFungus — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 02:12:00 +0000

hungeyneko: We filter out bots from the statistics. Good question!

By: xordid

xordid — Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:19:41 +0000

I concur with #3. I won’t believe that the game has become “easier” overall just by looking at blanket win %, which can hinge on a number of factors.. such as more players being willing to dig deeper into the game now that it is more streamlined. I would much prefer a dialogue over specific changes to the game that some think need to be reverted or adjusted due to making the game too easy.

By: Kaeoschassis

Kaeoschassis — Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:24:11 +0000

I’d also like to add that a game with a 2% winrate can’t really be called anything BUT “completely hard”.

By: Jonas

Jonas — Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:44:09 +0000

Don’t agree with the above. Making the game more playable does not mean it is easier. If deaths are reduced that were caused by a missing “do you really want to?” this does not mean it is easier. Bad UI != challenge.

By: lyraley

lyraley — Mon, 30 Mar 2015 09:57:55 +0000

Agree with 1#. Recent changes make the game simpler and easy to beat. Don’t feel it’s the DCSS i met 5 years ago, a completely hard game.

By: hungryneko

hungryneko — Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:57:26 +0000

http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/players/ew.html

this player obviously botting allday with 30k+ games played, do you count it into the statistic?

By: Mennas

Mennas — Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:53:38 +0000

Well Played all.

DCSS tournaments % win rate:

v0.10 = 1.10%
v0.11 = 1.18%
v0.12 = 1.40%
v0.13 = 1.37%
v0.14 = 1.31%
v0.15 = 1.71%
v0.16 = 2.03% (2nd half only)

I would like to see some adjustment. The recent quality of life changes are great for the player but they are objectively making the game easier.