I should've seen this coming. . . .

[trailer_park_vixen]

I REALLY should've seen this coming (I had already restored stats once or twice. . . .)---bit it _was_ a *REALLY* cool ride, pounding tomb in a dusty, gauzy haze, with a perpetually wraith-form . . . TROLL. (!!!!)

Before anyone says "All you had to do was remove the shield of The Onion, and. . . .", dex was a -2. Wouldn't've made any difference. I SERIOUSLY doubt that staying in wraith-form would've prevented this---but that's a question worth asking, I suppose. I just teleported out of the long, convoluted way out of tomb 1, pointed me'self to waypoint #1, and ran. . . .

Futile. _Was_ a cool ride, though.

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[trailer_park_vixen]

Actually . . . no. Dexterity was at zero, -2 with the Shield of the Onion. Stats death occurs at 0 or below:

http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Stat_death

I still don't think lich-form can protect against this, either. Anybody know anything 'bout 'dat??

[BlackSheep]

Your morgue says you were at 0 dex...

[tasonir]

There are three options to take tomb:

1) ring of sustained abilities
2) worship chei
3) Bring 3+, and ideally 5+, restore abilities potions/royal jellies.

With chei it's still a good idea to have 1-2 restore stat items, you just need less.

Lich form has a bunch of secondary resistances/immunities, but stat rot isn't one of them. Nothing changes other than you can't quaff the potions/eat jellies while in the form, but you can cancel it at any time to do so.

[mopl]

At least it provides a funny death
I had never seen a dex stat-death, although 1-2 of my characters forgot to breathe

Btw... "Actually, all you had to do was remove the shield of the Onion."

[trailer_park_vixen]

This is the last I'm going to say on this. On the screen, at the end, my dex read: -2. I _KNOW_ the file, says it is at zero. It [my actual, unmodified] was; however, my effective was -2. I was there.

The Shield of the Onion brought it down by 2. Thus, actual (0) -2 (Shield of Onion) was what was my effective. Taking off the shield, my actual would've still been zero.

Does the file dump only display actual, unmodified by items? [Is] This a bug? Should I talk to Mantis?

I need a break, from this game, for a while. . . .

[battaile]

Looks like you should've removed Shield of the Onion.

[Laraso]

How quickly does stat death occur? I've never found myself in a situation where I was at risk of stat death, but considering how painfully long it takes to remove/equip shields, would it even have been possible to remove the shield in time?

[BlackSheep]

http://crawl.develz.org/info/inline.php?q=stat%20drain

[mumra]

What you should've been doing was playing trunk, where stat death no longer exists...

[tasonir]

what happens now instead?

[mumra]

what happens now instead?

You don't die.

[battaile]

Thanks mumra, I somehow missed that despite being a compulsive change log reader, here's the commit message if anyone else was curious...

  Code:

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095ef86 | Chris Campbell | 2013-06-17 23:18:26 +0100

Remove stat death, have stat loss below 0 cause damage instead
Death after spending a while with a stat at 0 no longer occurs, but the
negative effects (slowing, significant stat-dependent restrictions)
and the recovery period after restoring from 0 still exist, and
additional stat loss when below 0 causes some irresistible damage.
Actual stat death was rare, slightly spoilery in implementation (in
particular the death timer being precisely 90 actions) and the stat
zero restrictions remain a pretty good reason to not want to have your
stats at zero for any length of time.

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[Amnesiac]

Have you actually tried to remove the shield of the Onion?

[mumra]

Have you actually tried to remove the shield of the Onion?

Do you have to kind of peel it off, layer-by-layer?