Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)


Although the central place for this kind of discussion is on the CDO wiki, some may find it helpful to discuss potential requests and suggestions here first.

User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Wednesday, 8th February 2012, 17:00

Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

General thread for comments about the current trunk and new features and feedback.

Let the devs know here what you're noticing in Trunk and how awesome (or terrible it is).

Post the explicit version you're playing.

Explain what you're seeing that you like or don't like!

If you're not sure if you want to make a bug report, post here.
Last edited by XuaXua on Wednesday, 8th February 2012, 17:04, edited 1 time in total.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Wednesday, 8th February 2012, 17:04

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Created a new thread for the new version.

Renamed the old thread.

FEEDBACK - REGARDING THE APPEARANCES OF UNIQUES
I'm playing 0.11-a0-99-gf8391ba

I am not seeing a lot of uniques in my game. Either my game has a lot (read: all, usually on the same level) of uniques or very few.
In my current game, I have only encountered Josephine.
Other games I have seen everyone from Dowan to Sigmund and in-between (Edmund, Terence, Jessica, Ijyb, Gastronok, Pikel, Menkakure, Duvessa (dur), Grinder)

I am sure this is just something random, but is it possible, however unlikely, that a flag is getting flipped that says "activate all early game uniques" or "don't activate any early game uniques"?

I didn't want to make a bug report because I'm not sure it's a bug, but I've seen it enough times across my games to wonder.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Wednesday, 8th February 2012, 20:23

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

FEEDBACK - REGARDING SKELETONS
I'm playing 0.11-a0-99-gf8391ba

Did something happen with commands? I feel like skeletons stop following me or disappear randomly now. When I tell them to attack someone and then they are finished, they do not seem to come back to following me after they are completed with their task. Other times they randomly walk away (probably to attack something) and never come back, but I find them later.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Eringya's Employee

Posts: 1782

Joined: Friday, 7th October 2011, 19:24

Location: Athens, Greece

Post Thursday, 9th February 2012, 16:34

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Not any bug or otherwise important fact but...

I'm currently able to download trunk for windows tiles (the .zip file) 0.10-b1-77 from my feed subscription.

Does this contain all of the 0.11...-... trunk changes that were made the past few weeks or not?

My question is, what is the newest version cause I want to play that.
MuCK;
  Code:
612 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Slain by a gnoll

For this message the author TehDruid has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Thursday, 9th February 2012, 16:44

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

TehDruid wrote:Not any bug or otherwise important fact but...

I'm currently able to download trunk for windows tiles (the .zip file) 0.10-b1-77 from my feed subscription.

Does this contain all of the 0.11...-... trunk changes that were made the past few weeks or not?

My question is, what is the newest version cause I want to play that.


I know the answer to this.

0.10 is the candidate for next release.
0.11 is considered trunk and has beta changes.

0.10 has some of the changes from 0.11, cherrypicked from those committed to ensure the stability of 0.10.

For example,
if in 0.11 they decided to deactivate Deep Elves, then 0.10 wouldn't have that change,
but
if in 0.11 they fix a bug that causes Beogh to give you 1000 gold whenever you pray at an altar, then that bug would be cherrypicked to apply to 0.10.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Eringya's Employee

Posts: 1782

Joined: Friday, 7th October 2011, 19:24

Location: Athens, Greece

Post Thursday, 9th February 2012, 17:10

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Yes, naturally I opened up the crawl_changelog.txt file to see what is going on. Noticed all these "cherrypicked" commits.
So I'm guessing I should still play the latest 0.11 if I want to be up to date, right?
MuCK;
  Code:
612 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Slain by a gnoll

For this message the author TehDruid has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 1605

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 21:54

Post Thursday, 9th February 2012, 17:44

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

0.11 isn't (or at least, shouldn't be) available to download from the trunk build pages, so that 0.10 can get as much testing and attention as possible before release. Plus there's practically no difference between trunk and the 0.10 branch at this point.

For this message the author MarvinPA has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Thursday, 9th February 2012, 18:10

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

MarvinPA wrote:0.11 isn't (or at least, shouldn't be) available to download from the trunk build pages, so that 0.10 can get as much testing and attention as possible before release. Plus there's practically no difference between trunk and the 0.10 branch at this point.


Well, apparently I'm not the only one seeing it in the RSS feed.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks: 2
Arrhythmia, TehDruid
User avatar

Eringya's Employee

Posts: 1782

Joined: Friday, 7th October 2011, 19:24

Location: Athens, Greece

Post Thursday, 9th February 2012, 18:16

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Well, the most recent version of 0.11 on my feed is a0-122 blah blah blah. Then (I noticed it today) came this 0.10-b1-77 blah blah blah.
MuCK;
  Code:
612 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Slain by a gnoll

For this message the author TehDruid has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Thursday, 9th February 2012, 19:41

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

TehDruid wrote:Well, the most recent version of 0.11 on my feed is a0-122 blah blah blah. Then (I noticed it today) came this 0.10-b1-77 blah blah blah.


This.

The feed seems to just list builds as they are built. I remember a patched version of 0.9 come down the pike a while back and only because it appeared in the feed.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Slime Squisher

Posts: 390

Joined: Saturday, 16th April 2011, 12:00

Post Friday, 10th February 2012, 06:03

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

I'll probably still be on 0.10-b1 until trunk page updates.

For this message the author Pteriforever has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Tuesday, 14th February 2012, 16:03

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

I know that some developers went through and made some ossuarys idiot-proof for secret doors, but there has to be a limit on this.

I just entered the ossuary where you start off surrounded by zombies and the room turns out to be a big rectangle, with each corner containing some treasures behind glass walls surrounded by a trap on each square.

It's obvious if you've played the tutorial that one of those glass walls is a secret door, so you have to wait and search and possibly step on a trap to do so to find the right wall to search.

Someone has turned the secret doors in this ossuary into plain walls.

So now it's a bunch of glass walls with traps in front that you learn you will never step on because you go straight for the blank wall portion to search against.

So either that was a mistake (which means its a bug) or it is intentional which is really ridiculously lousy and unnecessary hand holding that ruins the traps and challenge.

In my opinion.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Vaults Vanquisher

Posts: 451

Joined: Sunday, 11th September 2011, 00:07

Post Wednesday, 15th February 2012, 12:07

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

XuaXua wrote:unnecessary hand holding

The situation you mentioned sure looks like some semi automatic vault update oversight, but then again, isn't "unnecessary hand holding" where Crawl has been going to for the last few months anyway? I wouldn't be surprised at anything.
Your warning level: [CLASSIFIED]

For this message the author ebarrett has received thanks: 2
Arrhythmia, XuaXua
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 46

Joined: Sunday, 20th November 2011, 01:52

Post Wednesday, 15th February 2012, 16:36

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Guess what: the 0.10 commit on de-spoiler-ifying of ossuaries didn't touch ossuary_minmay_tomb_2a.

If anything, this particular piece of feedback highlights an idiosyncrasy in the vault settings of secret doors, that the specific feature they distguish themselves as attempts to be similar to their adjascent feature. If the secret door's nsubst work put one on the edge of the glass cage, there would be more stone adjascent to the door then glass, and in its the attempt to hide it's accidentally outed itself.

So! This is a piece of feedback based not on the source, commit history, or the mechanics of vault setting itself, and instead on a single anecdotal incident that doesn't even provide a screenshot or morgue. At best, this suggests implementing setting what a secret door tries to disguise itself as; at worst, this further cements the unreliability of the nature of this feedback.

(Whether the de-spoilering process itself is hand-holding, alongside general secret door use, are seperate issues I'll let others discuss.)

For this message the author claws has received thanks: 2
Arrhythmia, XuaXua
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Wednesday, 15th February 2012, 20:25

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

claws wrote:Guess what: the 0.10 commit on de-spoiler-ifying of ossuaries didn't touch ossuary_minmay_tomb_2a.

...

So! This is a piece of feedback based not on the source, commit history, or the mechanics of vault setting itself, and instead on a single anecdotal incident that doesn't even provide a screenshot or morgue. At best, this suggests implementing setting what a secret door tries to disguise itself as; at worst, this further cements the unreliability of the nature of this feedback.


My bad for kneejerk assuming it was involved in the de-spoiler-ifying.

Also my bad for not including a screenshot, but I wasn't in a place to do so. I can describe it though: every secret door was not transparent rock, but was a square (1) aligned adjacent to the outer wall and another transparent rock and (2) looked like the outer wall, not the transparent rock.

I would think that if this is a dynamic aspect of secret doors, then there should be a way to force the door to look like a specific type of wall rather than request it to adopt a nearby disguise.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Friday, 17th February 2012, 13:49

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

So... what's the plan for .11 by way of major changes?
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Blades Runner

Posts: 554

Joined: Tuesday, 25th January 2011, 14:24

Post Friday, 17th February 2012, 18:59

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Here's the planning page on the wiki:
https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:planning

Presumably things that didn't make .10 are in for consideration for .11

For this message the author JeffQyzt has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Slime Squisher

Posts: 400

Joined: Saturday, 24th September 2011, 03:45

Post Monday, 20th February 2012, 02:03

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

.10 official release and .11 trunk still have MD in the '%' aptitudes list. This could probly be removed.

For this message the author eeviac has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Eringya's Employee

Posts: 1782

Joined: Friday, 7th October 2011, 19:24

Location: Athens, Greece

Post Monday, 20th February 2012, 12:33

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Forgive any ignorance on my part, but are permabuffs considered for 0.11 or 0.12?
MuCK;
  Code:
612 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Slain by a gnoll

For this message the author TehDruid has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Monday, 20th February 2012, 16:24

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

TehDruid wrote:Forgive any ignorance on my part, but are permabuffs considered for 0.11 or 0.12?


Seems to be desired by all, but I guess it depends on which development cycle it's built in.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 4031

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 20:37

Location: France

Post Monday, 20th February 2012, 16:25

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

TehDruid wrote:Forgive any ignorance on my part, but are permabuffs considered for 0.11 or 0.12?

I was the one who put it on the 0.10 agenda, but I took a break instead. Now, I'm having second thoughts about it, so maybe never (will explain in another thread).
<+Grunt> You dereference an invalid pointer! Ouch! That really hurt! The game dies...

For this message the author galehar has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Temple Termagant

Posts: 12

Joined: Thursday, 1st December 2011, 08:30

Location: Chicago

Post Thursday, 1st March 2012, 21:30

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

I'm playing 0.11-a0-295-geb127b3 on a Windows 7 machine.

Every game since upgrading to this build has featured gnolls, gnolls, gnolls, gnolls, gnolls, gnolls, gnolls. Gnolls on D:1, multiple gnoll packs guarding stairs on D:2, etc. all fully prepared to kick my ass. Is this just a quirk of the RNG or did someone tweak the gnoll spawn rate?

For this message the author jtron has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Vestibule Violator

Posts: 1500

Joined: Monday, 3rd January 2011, 17:47

Post Thursday, 1st March 2012, 21:39

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

jtron wrote:I'm playing 0.11-a0-295-geb127b3 on a Windows 7 machine.

Every game since upgrading to this build has featured gnolls, gnolls, gnolls, gnolls, gnolls, gnolls, gnolls. Gnolls on D:1, multiple gnoll packs guarding stairs on D:2, etc. all fully prepared to kick my ass. Is this just a quirk of the RNG or did someone tweak the gnoll spawn rate?

I don't think that's new to .11. I've noticed it in .10 and it's been mentioned in this thread

For this message the author rebthor has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Temple Termagant

Posts: 12

Joined: Thursday, 1st December 2011, 08:30

Location: Chicago

Post Friday, 2nd March 2012, 21:33

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

I only noticed it on switching from 0.10 release to trunk. It's Xom's work, no doubt.

For this message the author jtron has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Tuesday, 13th March 2012, 04:21

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

I am noticing random abandoned shops. In Elf and Orc. Is this normal?
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 1605

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 21:54

Post Tuesday, 13th March 2012, 04:32

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)


For this message the author MarvinPA has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Tuesday, 13th March 2012, 14:21

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

MarvinPA wrote:Yes.


"A shop that starts empty."

"Start" is misused; the shop doesn't ever stop being empty. :)
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Abyss Ambulator

Posts: 1196

Joined: Friday, 17th December 2010, 13:59

Location: Maryland, USA

Post Wednesday, 21st March 2012, 17:09

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Don't know how long this one has been in, but Beoghites and summoners will like this:

Attacking a monster in water with an electrocution weapon, while a non-hostile is within the potential blast radius of an electrical arc, requires confirmation.

Nice.
You fall off the wall. You have a feeling of ineptitude.

For this message the author Stormfox has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 6393

Joined: Friday, 17th December 2010, 18:17

Post Monday, 26th March 2012, 04:39

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

There are some really good-looking tiles in trunk. Almost too good-looking - some of them look like they could be fixedarts.

For this message the author Grimm has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Tartarus Sorceror

Posts: 1773

Joined: Monday, 21st February 2011, 15:57

Location: South Carolina

Post Monday, 26th March 2012, 12:06

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Whoever added the "Water" status for when you are standing in water is my favorite person today. That's really helpful.

For this message the author jejorda2 has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 4031

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 20:37

Location: France

Post Monday, 26th March 2012, 13:04

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

jejorda2 wrote:Whoever added the "Water" status for when you are standing in water is my favorite person today. That's really helpful.

You're welcome :)
It was Eronarn's idea and I coded it.
<+Grunt> You dereference an invalid pointer! Ouch! That really hurt! The game dies...

For this message the author galehar has received thanks: 3
Arrhythmia, donblas, Wark
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Tuesday, 27th March 2012, 11:58

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Grimm wrote:There are some really good-looking tiles in trunk. Almost too good-looking - some of them look like they could be fixedarts.


Until I get used to them, the new "realistic" armour tiles look too similar.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 332

Joined: Friday, 15th July 2011, 22:43

Post Tuesday, 27th March 2012, 17:32

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Yeah, I'm of the same mind and I made them! I've had more practice since then, and I'm planning to re-do a few (ring mail, scale mail), but would you guys have any specific suggestions? Making them a tiny bit bigger and making their silhouettes a bit more distinct is my general plan.

For this message the author roctavian has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Tuesday, 27th March 2012, 17:34

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

roctavian wrote:Yeah, I'm of the same mind and I made them! I've had more practice since then, and I'm planning to re-do a few (ring mail, scale mail), but would you guys have any specific suggestions? Making them a tiny bit bigger and making their silhouettes a bit more distinct is my general plan.


Vary the colors and/or shades. Add more distinct "pieces". The hood on the chain mail is a good example of something that stands out and tells me "this is chain mail".
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Tuesday, 17th April 2012, 16:01

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

I've been playing Draconians a lot lately in Trunk and having not found means of levitation easily in several games, I feel the need to ask why the Levitation spell was removed.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Abyss Ambulator

Posts: 1249

Joined: Sunday, 18th September 2011, 02:11

Post Tuesday, 17th April 2012, 16:20

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Because it was pointless and flight does everything it did but better.

For this message the author Blade has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 4031

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 20:37

Location: France

Post Tuesday, 17th April 2012, 16:21

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

XuaXua wrote:I've been playing Draconians a lot lately in Trunk and having not found means of levitation easily in several games, I feel the need to ask why the Levitation spell was removed.

With swiftfly removed, the distinction between levitation and flight became too thin to justify 2 spells. And there are already a lot of sources of levitation (potions, ring, randart) and other means to cross hostile terrain (spider form clinging, ice form swimming).
<+Grunt> You dereference an invalid pointer! Ouch! That really hurt! The game dies...

For this message the author galehar has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Vaults Vanquisher

Posts: 451

Joined: Sunday, 11th September 2011, 00:07

Post Wednesday, 18th April 2012, 13:17

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Looks like the distowhiners got what they wanted, massive distortion/Lugonu buffs in trunk. I might even come back from my break to cash in a few cheap wins, AK should be pretty much an automatic victory now.
Your warning level: [CLASSIFIED]

For this message the author ebarrett has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 3163

Joined: Friday, 6th January 2012, 18:45

Post Wednesday, 18th April 2012, 13:46

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Really? A "massive" buff?

For this message the author BlackSheep has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 4031

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 20:37

Location: France

Post Wednesday, 18th April 2012, 14:06

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

You get some XP and piety from banishing monsters. I don't think it's a "massive" buff.
<+Grunt> You dereference an invalid pointer! Ouch! That really hurt! The game dies...

For this message the author galehar has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 3163

Joined: Friday, 6th January 2012, 18:45

Post Wednesday, 18th April 2012, 14:11

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

That was my interpretation. Maybe ebarrett thought that the commit concerning blunt distort/vamp weapons did something else?

For this message the author BlackSheep has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Wednesday, 18th April 2012, 14:25

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Totally massive. Getting those 3 XP back from that orc you banished instead of accidentally blinking or teleporting him away totally worth it.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Vaults Vanquisher

Posts: 451

Joined: Sunday, 11th September 2011, 00:07

Post Wednesday, 18th April 2012, 14:29

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

You get a lot of exp for not having to kill anything. You can start poking your way to victory ridiculously early now, and the extra piety doesn't hurt either.

BlackSheep wrote:Maybe ebarrett thought that the commit concerning blunt distort/vamp weapons did something else?

I fail to see what kind of reasoning could lead you to think what I think you thought I thought, whatever it was.
Your warning level: [CLASSIFIED]

For this message the author ebarrett has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 3163

Joined: Friday, 6th January 2012, 18:45

Post Wednesday, 18th April 2012, 14:31

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

I think it's the fact that a slight boost to the partial XP that you get when a monster is banished plus a bit of piety hardly seems to qualify as "autowin", so I started grasping at straws.

For this message the author BlackSheep has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Monday, 30th April 2012, 15:56

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Did the inventory order on Tiles local change?

Not a fan of it if it did; if it didn't, what am I doing wrong in my configuration files?
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 3163

Joined: Friday, 6th January 2012, 18:45

Post Monday, 30th April 2012, 17:19

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Inventory on the 'i' screen or on the panel in the main view?

For this message the author BlackSheep has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5832

Joined: Thursday, 10th February 2011, 18:30

Post Monday, 30th April 2012, 18:32

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

BlackSheep wrote:Inventory on the 'i' screen or on the panel in the main view?


Bottom right panel, it is in some sort of reverse order. Books then other crap. Finding potions in the middle is really throwing me off.
"Be aware that a lot of people on this forum, such as mageykun and XuaXua, have a habit of making things up." - minmay a.k.a. duvessa
Did I make a lame complaint? Check for Bingo!
Totally gracious CSDC Season 2 Division 4 Champeen!

For this message the author XuaXua has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
User avatar

Dungeon Master

Posts: 4031

Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 20:37

Location: France

Post Monday, 30th April 2012, 22:39

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

Indeed. The option which controls it is the first one in the tiles_options.txt file: tile_show_items. But it doesn't seem to do anything. I can't remember any recent change which might have caused it. Please, report it.
<+Grunt> You dereference an invalid pointer! Ouch! That really hurt! The game dies...

For this message the author galehar has received thanks:
Arrhythmia

Vestibule Violator

Posts: 1567

Joined: Friday, 21st January 2011, 22:56

Post Tuesday, 1st May 2012, 09:20

Re: Feedback on Trunk deployment (.11)

I also noticed this, so I reported it.

For this message the author Galefury has received thanks:
Arrhythmia
Next

Return to Game Design Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: svendre and 7 guests

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by ST Software for PTF.