About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...


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Post Wednesday, 29th May 2019, 02:15

About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

I've noticed that if you're playing a Demonspawn spell-caster, that the magic shield (formerly mana shield) mutation isn't so great, as it will grant the spirit shield intrinsic, which reduces your MP if you take damage. For a wizard, this could be a bad thing, even if the mutation does grant other abilities on later ranks.

It occurred to me that it might be useful to be able to toggle the spirit shield feature on and off, with the 'a' key, as a special ability.

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Post Wednesday, 29th May 2019, 03:26

Re: About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

That would mostly be a newbie trap, it would basically never be a good idea to turn it off.

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Post Wednesday, 29th May 2019, 12:20

Re: About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

Let me turn off my skin color too as a red Draconian Ice Elementalist.
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Post Wednesday, 29th May 2019, 13:24

Re: About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

Yes, it would be really weird to have an exception. We do not have a toggle to turn off being monstrous or ability to wear helmets.
Ds is all about adaptation to random mutations you get all game. If you don't want to adapt, play some other species instead.
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Post Wednesday, 29th May 2019, 14:36

Re: About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

As people have pointed out in the past, even if you could toggle it off, it would be a bad idea. Any hit big enough to deplete the large pool of MP you use as a primary spellcaster would devastate the (far smaller) pool of HP you use to keep your character alive.

Abyss Ambulator

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Post Wednesday, 5th June 2019, 16:07

Re: About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

Also, the next 2 levels of the mutation make your MP regen so fast that it's a huge bonus to spellcasters. Granted it might take many XP levels before you get those next levels of the mutation.

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Post Saturday, 8th June 2019, 17:57

Re: About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

I wouldn't mind two flavors of demonspawn from the game start: monstrous demonspawn and demonspawn. Or, just better yet, turn monstrous demonspawn into it's own race: monster :P
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Post Sunday, 9th June 2019, 05:22

Re: About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

svendre wrote: turn monstrous demonspawn into it's own race: monster :P



There's an idea. Flavor it "druid" or something, expand the mutation list a bit.
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Post Sunday, 9th June 2019, 16:49

Re: About the Demonspawn magic shield mutation...

I agree. They are pretty different experiences.

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