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Mines Malingerer

Posts: 49

Joined: Thursday, 7th February 2019, 14:02

Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 12:46

YASD: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

So,I have this guy:
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23.1 (webtiles) character file.

MrDizzy the Conjurer (Draconian Conjurer)           Turns: 2130, Time: 00:19:09

Health: 35/35      AC:  5    Str: 11    XL:     4   Next: 69%
Magic:  8/8        EV: 12    Int: 16    God:   
Gold:   194        SH:  0    Dex: 11    Spells: 6/9 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis .   a - +1 mace (crush)
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (no shield)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   (armour unavailable)
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   (no cloak)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   (no gloves)
MR       .....                  (no boots)
Stlth    ++........             (no amulet)
HPRegen  0.11/turn              (no ring)
MPRegen  0.11/turn              (no ring)

@: no status effects
A: unfitting armour, cold-blooded, AC +5
a: no special abilities


You are on level 3 of the Dungeon.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 3 of its levels.

You have collected 194 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +1 mace of crushing (weapon)
 d - a +0 dagger
 g - a +0 short sword
 m - a +0 spear
 v - a +0 falchion
Scrolls
 e - a scroll of enchant weapon
 l - a scroll of immolation
 o - a scroll of amnesia
 p - a scroll labeled BOSTEV ALIEBYTT
 r - a scroll of blinking
 t - a scroll of remove curse
 u - a scroll labeled YLI JUNUHOU
Potions
 f - a ruby potion
 h - a potion of flight
 k - 2 potions of curing
 q - a dark potion
 s - a metallic dark potion
Comestibles
 b - 8 rations


   Skills:
 + Level 1.6 Fighting
 + Level 2.4 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 * Level 3.0 Spellcasting
 * Level 4.8 Conjurations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Magic Dart            Conj           ###.         2%          1    #......
b - Searing Ray           Conj           ###...       3%          2    ##.....

Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
 Dazzling Spray           Conj/Hex       ##....       21%         3    ###....
 Iskenderun's Mystic Bla  Conj           ###.....     26%         4    #####..
 Force Lance              Conj/Tloc      ##......     56%         4    #####..
 Fulminant Prism          Conj/Hex       ##........   56%         4    #####..


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (3/15)           

Altars:
Gozag
Zin

Annotations:
D:3 Terence


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

Your plain brown scales are hard. (AC +5)
You cannot fit into any form of body armour.
You are cold-blooded and may be slowed by cold attacks.


Message History

Drop what? 21/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You drop 57 stones.
Drop what? 20/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You drop 26 sling bullets.
You see here 57 stones.
There is an open door here.
Eat a chunk of flesh? (ye/n/q)
You eat the chunk of flesh. This raw flesh tastes terrible.
You start waiting.
Your magical contamination has completely faded away.
You see here a -2 short sword.
You see here a kobold corpse.
The kobold corpse isn't edible.
You see here a -2 short sword.
Saving game... please wait.
Welcome back, MrDizzy the Draconian Conjurer.
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
There is an open door here.
Terence the Incautious comes into view. He is wielding a +0 short sword and
wearing a +4 scale mail of poison resistance.
Saving game... please wait.

 ##
  ..
  ##'
..#≈≈≈###      #####
..'≈≈≈'.########...#
@##≈≈≈#.@.....#.._.#
  ##' #.......#....#
   #  #######.'.)..#
           ##.#....#
           #..#.._†#
     .######)(##...#
     .......)(######
     #######..#
           #..#


There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  An orc wizard (D:3)
  3 adders
  A worm (D:2)
  4 dart slugs
  A leopard gecko (D:2)
  An orc (D:3)
  5 bats
  4 giant cockroaches
  3 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  10 kobolds
  A ball python (D:2)
  2 frilled lizards (D:2)
  6 rats
49 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | MrDizzy the Draconian Conjurer began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 3/3
   220 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/22 MP: 0/5
   707 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   807 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 28/28 MP: 3/6
  1122 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Searing Ray
  1606 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/35 MP: 1/8
  2053 | D:3      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  2056 | D:3      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  2128 | D:3      | Noticed Terence

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4 |
---------------+-------------+-----
Dodging        |     2       |  2.4
Fighting       |     1       |  1.6
Spellcasting   |           3 |  3.0
Stealth        |             |  1.7
Conjurations   |             |  4.8

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    65 |    12 ||    77
       Tailslap          |     5 |       ||     5
Throw: Stone             |     6 |       ||     6
 Cast: Magic Dart        |    56 |    11 ||    67
       Searing Ray       |     1 |     1 ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     4 |     3 ||     7
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     2 ||     5
Armor: Skin              |    24 |    11 ||    35
Dodge: Dodged            |    42 |    19 ||    61

I really don't know how to develop this character.

What spells are worth learning?
What should I train?
At the moment, I'm training Spellcasting and Conjurations focussed, and fighting and dodging unfocussed (for some HP and EV, so I don't turn him into a "glass cannon").
Does this sound reasonable?

Also, I just saw Terence the Incautious. Would it be incautious to attack ol' Terry? Or should I go for it?
Last edited by MrDizzy on Wednesday, 13th March 2019, 14:14, edited 1 time in total.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 12:58

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

IMB is main spell in Lair so you should work on it. I believe it is optimal to play as glass cannon until that spell is online.
You can try killing Terence, just don't let him get adjacent and then you can retreat upstairs if needed.
For reference:
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Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |     5 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     5
       Dagger            |     6 |     1 |    13 |     9 |       |       |       |       |       ||    29
       Tailslap          |     1 |       |       |    15 |    11 |    19 |    16 |    34 |   112 ||   208
       Flail             |       |     8 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     8
       Rapier            |       |       |       |    83 |    82 |   235 |   201 |    48 |       ||   649
       Demon blade       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   144 |   581 ||   725
       Quick blade       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     6 |       ||     6
Throw: Tomahawk          |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
 Cast: Magic Dart        |    84 |   127 |   138 |   121 |    92 |       |       |       |       ||   562
       Searing Ray       |       |    15 |    45 |    24 |     1 |       |       |       |       ||    85
       Iskenderun's Myst |       |     6 |    41 |   136 |   151 |    21 |       |       |       ||   355

Sorry I cannot link to my game because it used autotraining.
Underestimated: cleaving, Deep Elf, Formicid, Vehumet, EV
Overestimated: AC, GDS
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Spider Stomper

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Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 13:02

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

Your skilling is fine. As for Terence or any early unique, you don't have to obliterate every potential enemy you encounter. The main objectives right now are (in order of importance) :
1) survive
2) worship
Being a glass cannon is a fact of life with a casting background. Spellcasters are bullies of the early game: unless you're mostly sure you can push others around, don't. You'll get your teeth broken. Or in the case of crawling: "You die..."

Mines Malingerer

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Joined: Thursday, 7th February 2019, 14:02

Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 13:15

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

Thanks for the advice.

I killed Terry. Natasha and Crazy Yuif were on the same level. I left them alone.
Ijyb was on the next level. I tried to avoid him, but he ambushed me. I managed to beat him though.
Also, I'm now a green draconian.

Any advice on gods?

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 13:17

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

IMHO Vehumet is the best if you want to play a primary caster.
Underestimated: cleaving, Deep Elf, Formicid, Vehumet, EV
Overestimated: AC, GDS
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Spider Stomper

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Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 13:23

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

Seconded, Vehumet has a smooth learning curve.

Mines Malingerer

Posts: 49

Joined: Thursday, 7th February 2019, 14:02

Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 13:50

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

OK. I'll keep an eye out for a Vehumet altar.

IMB is online now. Me likey. I one-shotted one of those green-robed orcish bastards with it.

I'm on D:6 now. Sigmund is creeping around on this level. I've run away from him 3 times already.
Any advice for dealing with him...or just avoid?

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23.1 (webtiles) character file.

MrDizzy the Conjurer (Green Draconian Conjurer)     Turns: 8544, Time: 01:00:11

Health: 67/67      AC:  7    Str: 11    XL:     8   Next: 51%
Magic:  16/16      EV: 13    Int: 18    God:   
Gold:   347        SH:  0    Dex: 11    Spells: 8/18 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   d - +0 dagger
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (no shield)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   (armour unavailable)
rPois    +         Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   A - scarf {repulsion}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   w - +0 pair of gloves
MR       +....                  (no boots)
Stlth    ++........             (no amulet)
HPRegen  0.21/turn              C - ring of protection from fire
MPRegen  0.15/turn              B - ring of protection from magic

@: repel missiles
A: breathe noxious fumes, unfitting armour, poison resistance, cold-blooded, AC
+6
a: Breathe Noxious Fumes


You are on level 6 of the Dungeon.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 6 of its levels.

You have collected 347 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +1 mace of crushing
 b - a +0 hand axe of venom
 d - a +0 dagger (weapon)
 g - a +0 short sword
 m - a +0 spear
 v - a +0 falchion
Missiles
 c - 3 tomahawks (quivered)
 i - a throwing net
Armour
 w - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 y - a +2 shield
 A - a scarf of repulsion (worn)
Jewellery
 B - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 C - a ring of protection from fire (left hand)
Wands
 x - a wand of flame (11)
Scrolls
 e - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon
 l - a scroll of immolation
 o - a scroll of amnesia
 p - 2 scrolls labeled BOSTEV ALIEBYTT
 t - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 u - 2 scrolls of teleportation
Potions
 f - 2 potions of haste
 h - a potion of flight
 j - a potion of ambrosia
 k - a potion of curing
 n - a fuming silvery potion
 q - a dark potion
 s - a potion of heal wounds
 z - a potion of agility
Comestibles
 D - 12 rations


   Skills:
 + Level 4.4 Fighting
 + Level 4.2 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 * Level 5.9 Spellcasting
 * Level 7.4 Conjurations


You have 8 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         1%          1    None
b - Searing Ray           Conj           ####..       1%          2    None
c - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       ###...       8%          3    ##.....
d - Iskenderun's Mystic   Conj           ####....     6%          4    ####...

Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
 Beastly Appendage        Tmut           #.....       12%         1    None
 Sticks to Snakes         Tmut           #.......     19%         2    None
 Force Lance              Conj/Tloc      ###.....     26%         4    ####...
 Fulminant Prism          Conj/Hex       ###.......   26%         4    ####...
 Spider Form              Tmut/Pois      #.........   36%         3    ##.....
 Ice Form                 Ice/Tmut       #.......     77%         4    ####...
 Blade Hands              Tmut           #.........   98%         5    #####..


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (6/15)           
Temple: D:4-7       

Altars:
Gozag
Ru
Xom
Zin

Annotations:
D:3 1 runed translucent door, Crazy Yiuf, Natasha
D:6 Sigmund


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can breathe blasts of noxious fumes.
Your lurid green scales are hard. (AC +6)
You cannot fit into any form of body armour.
Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois)
You are cold-blooded and may be slowed by cold attacks.


Message History

The scorpion is almost dead.
The orb of energy explodes!
The scorpion stings you but does no damage.
Casting: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast (safe; 6% risk of failure)
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Magic Dart (safe; 1% risk of failure)
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - scorpion
Aim: a scorpion (almost dead)
The magic dart hits the scorpion.
You kill the scorpion!
You see here a scorpion corpse.
There is a stone staircase leading down, spattered with blood here.
You start resting.
HP restored.
You start resting.
Magic restored.
You climb downwards.
Level annotation: Sigmund
There is a stone staircase leading up, spattered with blood here.
Saving game... please wait.

  #............../
  ##.............o
  ##....##(#.c...
  #.....#(.#.....
  ###..#......#..
 ##..####........
 #.....([........
 #...............
 #@......#......#
 #....#..#.......
 #............##.
#.......##....#
#.......# ....#
##.......# ....
 #.........
 #..#?......
 ##.#.......


There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  3 ice beasts
  A sky beast (D:6)
  An ogre (D:4)
  2 orc warriors (D:5)
  2 centaurs (D:5)
  2 scorpions (D:5)
  A crimson imp (D:6)
  2 orc priests
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:6)
  A hound (D:4)
  4 orc wizards
  Ijyb (D:4)
  Terence (D:3)
  4 worker ants
  8 adders
  2 shadow imps
  An ooze (D:4)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  A worm (D:2)
  5 dart slugs
  5 leopard geckos
  12 orcs
  5 bats
  5 giant cockroaches
  3 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  11 kobolds
  A ball python (D:2)
  3 frilled lizards
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  6 rats
103 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | MrDizzy the Draconian Conjurer began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 3/3
   220 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/22 MP: 0/5
   707 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   807 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 28/28 MP: 3/6
  1122 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Searing Ray
  1606 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/35 MP: 1/8
  2053 | D:3      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  2056 | D:3      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  2128 | D:3      | Noticed Terence
  2147 | D:3      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  2241 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  2515 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  2515 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 37/41 MP: 2/9
  2643 | D:3      | Found a runed translucent door.
  2644 | D:3      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  2772 | D:3      | Killed Terence
  3761 | D:4      | Noticed Ijyb
  3792 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 49/49 MP: 7/11
  4221 | D:4      | Killed Ijyb
  4312 | D:4      | Noticed an ice beast
  4329 | D:4      | Killed an ice beast
  4711 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
  4711 | D:4      | Your scales start taking on a lurid green colour.
  4711 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/57 MP: 4/13
  4711 | D:4      | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons.
                  | (rPois) [Green Draconian growth]
  4914 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5294 | D:5      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  6534 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  6642 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  6755 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 25/66 MP: 6/15
  7521 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Conjurations
  7930 | D:5      | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray
  7935 | D:5      | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8 |
---------------+-------------------------+-----
Dodging        |     2           3     4 |  4.2
Fighting       |     1        2  3     4 |  4.4
Spellcasting   |           3     4  5    |  5.9
Conjurations   |           5     6     7 |  7.4
Stealth        |                         |  1.7

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    65 |    34 |       ||    99
       Tailslap          |     5 |     7 |     2 ||    14
       Mace              |       |    19 |       ||    19
       Spear             |       |    18 |    17 ||    35
       Dagger            |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Hand axe          |       |       |     3 ||     3
Throw: Stone             |     6 |       |       ||     6
 Cast: Magic Dart        |    56 |    94 |    82 ||   232
       Searing Ray       |     1 |    11 |    16 ||    28
       Iskenderun's Myst |       |       |     3 ||     3
Evoke: Wand              |       |     2 |     2 ||     4
  Use: Scroll            |     4 |     6 |     5 ||    15
       Potion            |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |    10 |     5 ||    18
       Ration            |       |       |     2 ||     2
Armor: Skin              |    24 |    34 |    20 ||    78
Dodge: Dodged            |    42 |    72 |    47 ||   161
       Deflected         |       |       |     4 ||     4

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 13:58

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

I'd avoid him, he can confuse you despite extra MR.

Edit. Don't forget you have a breath attack, it is powerful and fun.
Underestimated: cleaving, Deep Elf, Formicid, Vehumet, EV
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Abyss Ambulator

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Post Monday, 11th March 2019, 21:17

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

VeryAngryFelid wrote:I'd avoid him, he can confuse you despite extra MR.

Edit. Don't forget you have a breath attack, it is powerful and fun.


Yes, green draconian breath is extra awesome early.

Mines Malingerer

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Joined: Thursday, 7th February 2019, 14:02

Post Tuesday, 12th March 2019, 12:38

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

Tried to avoid Sigmund, but ran into him again on the other side of the floor.
Confused him with my super-halitosis breath and then hit him with a couple of Mystic Blasts.
Siggy's dead.

Mines Malingerer

Posts: 49

Joined: Thursday, 7th February 2019, 14:02

Post Tuesday, 12th March 2019, 14:11

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

OK. I'm worshipping Vehumet, and I've just reached Lair (entrance was way down on D:11).
This is the state of my character:
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23.1 (webtiles) character file.

MrDizzy the Destroyer (Green Draconian Conjurer)   Turns: 18248, Time: 02:29:15

Health: 94/94      AC:  9    Str: 11    XL:     11   Next: 40%
Magic:  33/33      EV: 16    Int: 19    God:    Vehumet [**....]
Gold:   697        SH:  0    Dex: 15    Spells: 16/29 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis .   d - +0 dagger
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (no shield)
rNeg     + + .     Faith    .   (armour unavailable)
rPois    +         Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   A - scarf {repulsion}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   V - +1 pair of gloves of Jesua {*Corrode rN++ Dex+4}
MR       +....                  (no boots)
Stlth    ++........             (no amulet)
HPRegen  0.25/turn              L - ring of magical power
MPRegen  0.23/turn              B - ring of protection from magic

@: repel missiles
A: breathe noxious fumes, unfitting armour, poison resistance, cold-blooded, AC
+7
a: Breathe Noxious Fumes, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 13 of its levels.

You have collected 697 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +1 mace of crushing
 b - a +0 hand axe of venom
 d - a +0 dagger (weapon)
 g - a +0 short sword
 i - a +0 dire flail
 v - a +0 falchion
 H - a +1 trident of venom
 M - a +4 spear
 R - a +1 whip of electrocution
 U - a +0 whip of flaming
 W - a +1 scimitar of flaming
Missiles
 c - 7 tomahawks (quivered)
 F - 44 poisoned needles
 X - 2 throwing nets
Armour
 w - a +1 pair of gloves
 A - a scarf of repulsion (worn)
 V - the +1 pair of gloves of Jesua (worn) {*Corrode rN++ Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
   It may corrode you when you take damage.
Jewellery
 B - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 C - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 J - a ring of protection from fire
 L - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 Q - a +5 ring of strength
 S - an uncursed ring of fire
Wands
 m - a wand of iceblast (6)
 r - a wand of paralysis (8)
 x - a wand of flame (11)
 G - a wand of enslavement (10)
 O - a wand of clouds (7)
Scrolls
 e - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon
 l - a scroll of immolation
 o - a scroll of amnesia
 p - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
 t - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 u - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 E - 2 scrolls labeled MIUCUD KUTTOO
 K - 4 scrolls of fog
 N - a scroll labeled UDINWU WUSAWEM
 P - a scroll labeled FAGAGH URER
 Z - a scroll labeled KEMMAG ICEWKA
Potions
 f - 3 potions of haste
 h - 3 potions of flight
 j - a potion of ambrosia
 k - 3 potions of curing
 n - 2 potions of lignification
 q - 2 potions of resistance
 z - a potion of agility
 I - 2 potions of mutation
 T - a potion of magic
Miscellaneous
 y - a lightning rod (4/4)
Comestibles
 D - 13 rations
 Y - 4 chunks of flesh


   Skills:
 + Level 7.9 Fighting
 + Level 7.0 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 * Level 9.9 Spellcasting
 * Level 11.2 Conjurations


You have 16 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         1%          1    None
b - Searing Ray           Conj           ######       1%          2    None
c - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       ####..       2%          3    None
d - Iskenderun's Mystic   Conj           ######..     1%          4    ###....
e - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  ###.....     4%          3    None

Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
 Freeze                   Ice            #...         8%          1    None
 Sting                    Conj/Pois      ####         1%          1    None
 Conjure Flame            Conj/Fire      ####....     2%          3    None
 Animate Skeleton         Necr           N/A          8%          1    None
 Beastly Appendage        Tmut           #.....       8%          1    None
 Pain                     Necr           #...         8%          1    None
 Force Lance              Conj/Tloc      ####....     8%          4    ###....
 Fulminant Prism          Conj/Hex       ####......   8%          4    ###....
 Blink                    Tloc           N/A          12%         2    None
 Call Imp                 Summ           #.......     12%         2    None
 Poisonous Vapours        Pois/Air       #.....       12%         2    None
 Slow                     Hex            #.......     12%         2    None
 Sticks to Snakes         Tmut           #.......     12%         2    None
 Venom Bolt               Conj/Pois      ####......   21%         5    #####..
 Regeneration             Chrm/Necr      #.........   22%         3    None
 Spider Form              Tmut/Pois      #.........   22%         3    None
 Vampiric Draining        Necr           #.........   22%         3    None
 Animate Dead             Necr           N/A          58%         4    ###....
 Ice Form                 Ice/Tmut       #.......     58%         4    ###....
 Olgreb's Toxic Radiance  Pois           #.......     58%         4    ###....
 Blade Hands              Tmut           #.........   91%         5    #####..


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (1/6) D:11
    Orc (0/2) D:9         

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:6 %   D:7 [

Annotations:
D:3 1 runed translucent door, Crazy Yiuf, Natasha
D:6 2 transporters, cpf86's ghost, novice MiBe


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can breathe blasts of noxious fumes.
Your lurid green scales are hard. (AC +7)
You cannot fit into any form of body armour.
Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois)
You are cold-blooded and may be slowed by cold attacks.


Message History

The water moccasin bites you.
The searing ray hits the water moccasin.
The water moccasin is heavily wounded.
The water moccasin closely misses you. x2
The searing ray misses the water moccasin.
The water moccasin bites you but does no damage.
The searing ray hits the water moccasin!
You kill the water moccasin!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
You feel your power returning. You finish channeling your searing ray.
You see here a water moccasin corpse.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
You climb upwards. Welcome back to the Dungeon!
There is a staircase to the Lair here.
You start resting.
You have got your breath back.
You start resting. Magic restored.
You climb downwards. Welcome back to the Lair of Beasts!
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Saving game... please wait.

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 ...#..#.#####...#.#
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.........@..........
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#..####.####...#
 ..  #..   #...#
    #...   #...#
    #...   .....
    #.     #.....


There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Erica (D:8)
  A two-headed ogre (D:10)
  Pikel (D:8)
  An ugly thing (D:10)
  3 trolls
  A hippogriff (D:8)
  Sigmund (D:6)
  A yak (D:10)
  Grum (D:8)
  A soldier ant (D:10)
  An acid dragon (D:11)
  A water moccasin (Lair:1)
  3 porcupines (D:10)
  4 ice beasts
  A slave (D:8)
  8 sky beasts
  5 black bears
  9 ogres
  6 orc warriors
  A phantom (D:5)
  2 wolves
  7 centaurs
  3 big kobolds
  3 crocodiles (D:10)
  7 bullfrogs
  3 gnoll sergeants
  A wyvern skeleton (D:8)
  6 scorpions
  7 wights
  3 howler monkeys
  3 crimson imps
  6 orc priests
  3 bullfrog skeletons
  A centaur skeleton (D:8)
  2 centaur zombies
  6 hounds
  A jelly (D:6)
  9 orc wizards
  Ijyb (D:4)
  Terence (D:3)
  2 iguanas
  6 worker ants
  A hound skeleton (D:6)
  10 adders
  3 gnolls (D:9)
  4 shadow imps
  An ooze (D:4)
  An adder zombie (D:8)
  2 adder skeletons
  A worm (D:2)
  5 dart slugs
  6 leopard geckos
  37 orcs
  5 bats
  5 giant cockroaches
  3 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  17 kobolds
  3 quokkas
  A ball python (D:2)
  3 frilled lizards
  A jackal skeleton (D:8)
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  6 rats
257 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 slaves (D:8)
  A plant (D:11)
4 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 261 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | MrDizzy the Draconian Conjurer began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 3/3
   220 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/22 MP: 0/5
   707 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   807 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 28/28 MP: 3/6
  1122 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Searing Ray
  1606 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/35 MP: 1/8
  2053 | D:3      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  2056 | D:3      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  2128 | D:3      | Noticed Terence
  2147 | D:3      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  2241 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  2515 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  2515 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 37/41 MP: 2/9
  2643 | D:3      | Found a runed translucent door.
  2644 | D:3      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  2772 | D:3      | Killed Terence
  3761 | D:4      | Noticed Ijyb
  3792 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 49/49 MP: 7/11
  4221 | D:4      | Killed Ijyb
  4312 | D:4      | Noticed an ice beast
  4329 | D:4      | Killed an ice beast
  4711 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
  4711 | D:4      | Your scales start taking on a lurid green colour.
  4711 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/57 MP: 4/13
  4711 | D:4      | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons.
                  | (rPois) [Green Draconian growth]
  4914 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5294 | D:5      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  6534 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  6642 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  6755 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 25/66 MP: 6/15
  7521 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Conjurations
  7930 | D:5      | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray
  7935 | D:5      | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast
  8938 | D:6      | Found a transporter.
  8940 | D:6      | Found a transporter.
  8940 | D:6      | Noticed cpf86's ghost (novice MiBe)
  9028 | D:6      | Found Edebbikhuinn's Food Emporium.
  9091 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  9301 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Conjurations
  9301 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 73/73 MP: 13/18
  9410 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  9758 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  9945 | D:7      | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors!
  9945 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  9995 | D:9      | Noticed a troll
 10806 | D:10     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 10832 | D:10     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 10832 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Conjurations
 11116 | D:8      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 11169 | D:8      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
 11240 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 83/83 MP: 16/21
 11290 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
 11901 | D:8      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 12233 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
 12242 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
 12372 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
 12563 | D:7      | Found Bemu's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 12749 | D:7      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 13276 | D:8      | Noticed Pikel
 13285 | D:8      | Killed Pikel
 13285 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 13332 | D:8      | Noticed Grum
 13426 | D:8      | Killed Grum
 13523 | D:8      | Got a pair of ichor-stained gloves
 13554 | D:8      | Killed Erica
 13569 | D:8      | Identified the +1 pair of gloves of Jesua {*Corrode rN++
                  | Dex+4} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
 14233 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 14428 | D:8      | Reached * piety under Vehumet
 14428 | D:8      | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet.
 14600 | D:8      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 73/92 MP: 24/24
 15888 | D:9      | Offered knowledge of Freeze by Vehumet.
 15934 | D:10     | Noticed a purple ugly thing
 15953 | D:10     | Killed a purple ugly thing
 15953 | D:10     | Reached skill level 11 in Conjurations
 16098 | D:9      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 16156 | D:10     | Reached ** piety under Vehumet
 16777 | D:11     | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 17531 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 18183 | D:11     | Noticed a green ugly thing
 18207 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 |
---------------+----------------------------------+-----
Dodging        |     2           3     4  5  6  7 |  7.0
Fighting       |     1        2  3     4  6  7    |  7.9
Spellcasting   |           3     4  5  6  7  9    |  9.9
Conjurations   |           5     6     8  9 10 11 | 11.2
Stealth        |                                  |  1.7

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    65 |    34 |       |       ||    99
       Tailslap          |     5 |     7 |     5 |    11 ||    28
       Mace              |       |    19 |       |       ||    19
       Spear             |       |    18 |    17 |       ||    35
       Dagger            |       |       |    39 |    70 ||   109
       Hand axe          |       |       |     3 |       ||     3
Throw: Stone             |     6 |       |       |       ||     6
       Throwing net      |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Magic Dart        |    56 |    94 |   167 |   318 ||   635
       Searing Ray       |     1 |    11 |    46 |    80 ||   138
       Iskenderun's Myst |       |       |     9 |     3 ||    12
       Dazzling Spray    |       |       |       |     7 ||     7
 Abil: Breathe Noxious F |       |       |    19 |    53 ||    72
Evoke: Wand              |       |     2 |     2 |       ||     4
  Use: Scroll            |     4 |     6 |     8 |     5 ||    23
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |     4 ||     5
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     1 |       ||     3
       Confused          |       |       |     1 |    14 ||    15
       Held in net/web   |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Invisible         |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |    10 |     9 |    16 ||    38
       Ration            |       |       |     5 |     4 ||     9
Armor: Skin              |    24 |    34 |    64 |    41 ||   163
Dodge: Dodged            |    42 |    72 |   129 |   129 ||   372
       Deflected         |       |       |     9 |    13 ||    22

Should I branch out to another magic school?
Should I start training a weapon skill?
(I was thinking of training short blades because I've had quite a bit of success confusing monsters with my breath and then getting stabby with them).

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Post Tuesday, 12th March 2019, 14:22

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

At this point it is up to you, there is no single optimal path. You can branch into other magic schools, you can become a hybrid, you can be a stabber with shield, you can be a stabber with 2h long blade for conventional melee etc.

Edit. Personally I would train at least some M&F for +1 whip of electrocution, it is really great when you run out of MP.
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Post Tuesday, 12th March 2019, 19:25

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

You always want to keep in mind the main imminent threats, which in lair are black mambas and spiny frogs. They're poison resistant, so confusion clouds won't work on them. In a 1-on-1 with full health and mana you can nuke one to death, so you're okay, as long as you stay mindful of your situation. The rime drakes can also screw with you since they do cold damage (you're a draconian, so you're cold blooded, so cold damage can slow you), but they're not poison resistant so you have an easy answer. You probably know about hydras, and they're poison resistant; just walk away.

I suggest you memorize conjure flame. If you don't know how to use it, experiment with it; you can use it to block off key enemy positions, and getting an enemy to stand in the cloud for multiple turns is massive damage. Animate Skeleton is a strong spell but kind of annoying to use, you could try that out too if you want.

Confusion clouds (and confusion in general) are really strong, regardless of which means of attack you are using. What I'm getting at is, there's no reason at all for you to be thinking about short blades. Your best weapon is either the scimitar of flaming or the whip of electrocution, not sure which. The spear and trident are also okay. You'll do much better with any of those than with a +0 dagger.

As for skills, I advise against investing skill in a weapon, since it's redundant with the powerful way of killing things that you already have (mystic blast and searing ray). I also advise against investing in magic skills for now, since you don't have any worthwhile bigger spells to train for (unless you want a little necromancy for animate skeleton / animate dead). What I would do is get a few cheap levels of evocations (I'd get 5), since you have a wand of enslavement (in addition to some other wands). Enslavement is incredibly powerful in most situations where you are threatened by two or more enemies, and the other wands have their uses as well. After that, I'd invest in more dodging until a buckler or a good spell is found.

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Post Tuesday, 12th March 2019, 20:32

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

I'd consider using Fulminant Prism, Blink, Conjure Flame, and poison magic (Venom Bolt mainly)
Prism provides very nice area damage, though it is a bit loud and you need to pay attention where to place the prism. It's even good against hydra's, particularly in combination with Blink, if I recall correctly.
Poison magic will make many enemies which you can already kill easily even easier to kill. Sometimes it's not worth it.
I usually pick up the first 3 or so levels of magic skills which I'm using but aren't my main focus, because they're cheap.

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Post Wednesday, 13th March 2019, 02:40

Re: CIP: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

Thanks all once again for the advice.
There are a few fun-sounding spells there I want to try out. Mmmmmm....Fulminant Prism *drools*.
Spellcasters are way more fun than melee dudes. Spells are fun, plus you need to think about different strategies for different monsters depending on resistances, etc.

Probably will go for a buckler if I can find one. I was carrying around a +2 shield for a while with the intention of training for it, but then I read somewhere that you need 15 shields skill to offset the spellcasting penalty on a shield, which seems like way too much investment that could be put into other more important things for this character, but only 4 for a buckler, which is reasonable.

Also, I think I need to lose those gloves I've got on. I'm wearing them for the rN++, but the fact that they can corrode me when I take damage is a worry. It doesn't trigger that often, but if it happened in a big fight it could be really bad news.

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Post Wednesday, 13th March 2019, 14:13

Re: YASD: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

Damn! Got killed by Kirke's summons on Lair:4.
Stayed in the fight too long. Should've run away.

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Post Wednesday, 13th March 2019, 20:19

Re: YASD: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

You always want to keep in mind the main imminent threats, which in lair are black mambas and spiny frogs. They're poison resistant, so confusion clouds won't work on them. In a 1-on-1 with full health and mana you can nuke one to death, so you're okay, as long as you stay mindful of your situation. The rime drakes can also screw with you since they do cold damage (you're a draconian, so you're cold blooded, so cold damage can slow you), but they're not poison resistant so you have an easy answer. You probably know about hydras, and they're poison resistant; just walk away.


Snakes, frogs, and hydras can all be dazzled. Unless you've significantly greater AC/HP, I wouldn't try to dazzle-stab hydras in lair. Often by the time you're doing swamp you can, however.

Mephitic cloud + dazzling spray is an excellent stabbing combo and will trash most non-undead/plant things for stabbers until the game is almost over.

Damn! Got killed by Kirke's summons on Lair:4.
Stayed in the fight too long. Should've run away.


She *summoned* a lindworm, which is instant "nope" for this XL with no rF+. Your best bet was to immediately get away from that, reset the fight, and tag her with mephitic before she gets summons off using a corner to block LoS. This has just under 25% chance to confuse/turn. Could then just IMB until she dies or gets confused for a stab.

Also if you're about to die you might as well chug heal wounds + resistance and such. They don't do anything for a dead character.
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Post Thursday, 14th March 2019, 19:45

Re: YASD: DrCj - have no idea what I'm doing

MrDizzy wrote:Stayed in the fight too long. Should've run away.


^ Caster splats in a nutshell.

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