[CiP] GrAE^Veh: How far can I go? (Advice pls)


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Post Friday, 18th May 2018, 09:27

[CiP] GrAE^Veh: How far can I go? (Advice pls)

Hi all,

I've only got two melee wins under my belt (3 and 6 runes) and I've never won with a caster, or gone for 15. My current character could easily win right now so I'm thinking of taking a run at extended, but I've got no idea what a 15-rune character looks like in terms of skilling, equipment, spells, etc. so I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance. Is the character I've got now a decent candidate and if so where do I take them from here?

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Tulse the Impregnable (Gargoyle Air Elementalist) Turns: 124623, Time: 13:31:47

Health: 173/173 AC: 64 Str: 24 XL: 27
Magic: 42/42 EV: 19 Int: 30 God: Vehumet [******]
Gold: 5079 SH: 9 Dex: 20 Spells: 1/56 levels left

rFire + + + SeeInvis . b - +9 quick blade (drain)
rCold + + . Gourm . g - +3 buckler "Izuwk" {+Inv Int+5}
rNeg + + + Faith . y - +12 plate armour of Gehenna {rPois Str+6 Int-5}
rPois ∞ Spirit . G - +2 hat {MR+}
rElec + Reflect . l - scarf {rC+ rF+}
rCorr . Harm . m - +3 pair of gauntlets of War {Slay+5}
MR +++.. J - +2 pair of boots
Stlth ++........ A - macabre finger necklace {rN+}
HPRegen 0.38/turn X - ring "Boloz" {rF+ rC+ rN+ Dex+4}
MPRegen 0.28/turn B - ring of Neyzopho {Str+4 Int+5 Dex+4}
D - ring of Dudus {Wiz rF+}

@: flying
A: big wings, deterioration 1, negative energy resistance 1, electricity
resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, rot immunity, subdued magic
1, AC +20
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, silver, gossamer
a: Stop Flying, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and seen 53 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 2 times.
You have also visited: Trove, Ossuary, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 8791 gold pieces.
You have spent 3712 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
b - a +9 quick blade of draining (weapon)
w - the +1 quick blade "Caunnof" {holy, Str+3 Dex-3 SInv}
(You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)

It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
and demons.

It affects your strength (+3).
It affects your dexterity (-3).
It lets you see invisible.
Missiles
O - 7 steel tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
g - the +3 buckler "Izuwk" (worn) {+Inv Int+5}
(You found it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)

It affects your intelligence (+5).
It lets you turn invisible.
l - a scarf of resistance (worn)
m - the +3 pair of gauntlets of War (worn) {Slay+5}
(You acquired it on level 4 of the Vaults)

It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
(+5).
y - the +12 plate armour of Gehenna (worn) {rPois Str+6 Int-5}
(You acquired it on level 4 of the Depths)

It affects your strength (+6).
It affects your intelligence (-5).
It protects you from poison.
G - a +2 hat of magic resistance (worn)
J - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
Magical Staves
a - an uncursed staff of energy
Jewellery
A - the macabre finger necklace (around neck) {rN+}
(You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)

[amulet of nothing]

It protects you from negative energy.
B - the ring of Neyzopho (right hand) {Str+4 Int+5 Dex+4}
(You took it off a vault guard on level 5 of the Vaults)

[ring of intelligence]

It affects your strength (+4).
It affects your intelligence (+5).
It affects your dexterity (+4).
C - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
D - the ring of Dudus (on amulet) {Wiz rF+}
(You found it in a treasure trove)

[ring of wizardry]

It improves your spell success rate.
It protects you from fire.
L - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
X - the ring "Boloz" (left hand) {rF+ rC+ rN+ Dex+4}
(You took it off a vault warden on level 5 of the Vaults)

[ring of positive energy]

It affects your dexterity (+4).
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from cold.
It protects you from negative energy.
Y - the ring of Vehumet's Reproof {rCorr Str+2}
(You took it off an ironbrand convoker on level 5 of the Vaults)

[ring of resist corrosion]

It affects your strength (+2).
Wands
e - a wand of digging (46)
f - a wand of clouds (3)
t - a wand of paralysis (65)
u - a wand of disintegration (22)
H - a wand of iceblast (55)
W - a wand of acid (3)
Scrolls
i - 6 scrolls of fear
p - 6 scrolls of fog
r - a scroll of summoning
s - 15 scrolls of teleportation
E - 12 scrolls of blinking
F - 2 scrolls of silence
K - 22 scrolls of remove curse
R - a scroll of holy word
V - 7 scrolls of magic mapping
Potions
h - 7 potions of haste
j - 11 potions of mutation
k - 11 potions of brilliance
q - 8 potions of agility
z - 17 potions of curing
M - 7 potions of might
P - 2 potions of resistance
Q - 3 potions of heal wounds
S - 7 potions of cancellation
T - 2 potions of invisibility
Miscellaneous
n - a phial of floods
o - a lightning rod (4/4)
v - a crystal ball of energy
x - a fan of gales
N - 3 phantom mirrors
U - 3 boxes of beasts
Comestibles
c - 23 rations


Skills:
- Level 18.0 Fighting
- Level 8.0 Short Blades
+ Level 22.5 Armour
- Level 17.0 Dodging
- Level 16.5 Stealth
- Level 4.0 Shields
- Level 15.0 Spellcasting
- Level 18.0 Conjurations
- Level 5.0 Charms
- Level 4.0 Summonings
- Level 3.0 Necromancy
- Level 3.0 Translocations
- Level 6.0 Ice Magic
- Level 7.0 Air Magic
- Level 19.0 Earth Magic
- Level 6.0 Poison Magic
- Level 15.0 Evocations


You have one spell level left.
You know the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Shock Conj/Air #### 1% 1 None
b - Orb of Destruction Conj #######... 1% 7 #####..
c - Poison Arrow Conj/Pois ######.... 1% 6 ###....
d - Lehudib's Crystal Sp Conj/Erth #######... 3% 8 ######.
e - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None
f - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ######.. 1% 3 None
g - Freezing Cloud Conj/Ice/Air ######.... 2% 6 ###....
h - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #####..... 1% 3 None
i - Summon Butterflies Summ #####... 1% 1 None
j - Summon Lightning Spi Summ/Air #####... 3% 4 None
s - Iron Shot Conj/Erth #######... 1% 6 ###....
v - Borgnjor's Vile Clut Necr/Erth ######.... 1% 5 None
w - Swiftness Chrm/Air #####... 1% 2 None
z - Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 1% 1 None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (6/6) D:9
Swamp (4/4) Lair:4 Spider (4/4) Lair:3 Slime (0/5) Lair:6
Orc (2/2) D:12 Elf (3/3) Orc:2 Vaults (5/5) D:14
Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3 Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3 Depths (5/5) D:15
Zot (5/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:6 ( D:11 [[( D:13 ! D:14 ( Orc:2 (*[([[**: Elf:1 =}}
Elf:2 ** Vaults:1 [ Vaults:3 ( Vaults:4 * Depths:2 ? Depths:4 [
Depths:5 (

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:2 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:3

Annotations:
D:2 Natasha
Orc:2 exclusion: upstairs
Elf:2 exclusion: downstairs
Depths:3 exclusions: angel, daeva and 3 more exclusions
Depths:4 exclusion: downstairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
Your stone body is resilient. (AC +20)
You are immune to poison.
Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely.
You resist negative energy. (rN+)
You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec)
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are immune to rotting.
Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage.
Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful.


Message History

Okay, then.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Items here: :::::::::::::::::
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, Tulse the Gargoyle Air Elementalist.
Vehumet says: Let it end in hellfire!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Items here: ?????
a scroll of brand weapon; a scroll of acquirement; a scroll of enchant weapon
8 scrolls of enchant armour; 6 scrolls of amnesia
Okay, then.
Items here: :::::::::::::::::
Unknown command.
(D) Dungeon (T) Temple (L) Lair (S) Swamp
(N) Spider Nest (M) Slime Pits (O) Orcish Mines (E) Elven Halls
(V) Vaults (C) Crypt (W) Tomb (U) Depths
(H) Hell (Z) Zot
Where to? (? - help)
Okay, then.
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Notes
Turn | Place | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | Tulse the Gargoyle Air Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 3/3
383 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/5
988 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 4/6
1279 | D:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
1283 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Static Discharge
1442 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
1672 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 15/24 MP: 2/7
1794 | D:2 | Noticed Natasha
2080 | D:2 | Reached skill level 2 in Armour
2818 | D:3 | Reached skill level 3 in Armour
2818 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/28 MP: 0/8
3520 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
3531 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
3674 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
4069 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund
4095 | D:4 | HP: 2/42 [Edmund/dire flail of crushing (4)]
4100 | D:4 | Killed Edmund
4100 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 9/32 MP: 1/10
4425 | D:4 | Reached skill level 4 in Armour
4524 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
4524 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 15/36 MP: 1/11
4950 | D:4 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
4950 | D:4 | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
4955 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
4957 | D:4 | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
4958 | D:4 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
5510 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
5526 | D:5 | Learned a level 5 spell: Lightning Bolt
5572 | D:5 | Noticed Menkaure
5647 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
5779 | D:5 | Noticed bairyn's ghost (novice TeAE)
5885 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
6232 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/44 MP: 3/12
6308 | D:6 | Found Tiq Iguf's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
6975 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
7170 | D:6 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
7195 | D:6 | Reached * piety under Vehumet
7195 | D:6 | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet.
7195 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
7409 | D:5 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
7419 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder
7430 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns
7437 | D:5 | Killed Grinder
7437 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 31/48 MP: 0/15
7642 | D:5 | Killed bairyn's ghost
7783 | D:5 | Noticed Duvessa
7783 | D:5 | Noticed Dowan
8147 | D:5 | Killed Menkaure
8584 | D:7 | Found a sand-covered staircase.
8620 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary
8630 | Ossuary | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
8634 | Ossuary | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
9387 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Freeze by Vehumet.
9390 | D:7 | Reached ** piety under Vehumet
9907 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
10116 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 49/53 MP: 0/18
10382 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet.
10834 | D:9 | Reached *** piety under Vehumet
11069 | D:9 | Found a flagged portal.
11094 | Bailey | Entered a bailey
11136 | Bailey | Offered knowledge of Stone Arrow by Vehumet.
11465 | Bailey | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
11569 | D:9 | Got a slimy hand axe
11586 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant
11794 | D:9 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
11991 | D:9 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
11999 | D:9 | Reached **** piety under Vehumet
12083 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
12092 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
12259 | D:9 | Killed an elephant
12259 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
12259 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 60/60 MP: 8/23
12352 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Dazzling Spray by Vehumet.
12363 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
12536 | D:9 | Noticed a three-headed hydra
12545 | D:9 | Killed a three-headed hydra
12577 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
12650 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
12650 | D:10 | Noticed Maurice
12654 | D:10 | Noticed Erolcha
12665 | D:9 | Killed Erolcha
12665 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
13024 | D:10 | Noticed Harold
13172 | D:10 | Killed Maurice
13181 | D:10 | Killed Harold
13186 | D:10 | Got an encrusted long sword {protect}
13323 | D:10 | Identified the +12 long sword "Qaijec" {protect, *Contam rElec Int+5} (You took it off Maurice on level 10 of the Dungeon)
13389 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
13424 | D:10 | Reached skill level 6 in Armour
13456 | D:10 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
13465 | D:10 | Killed a two-headed ogre
13465 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
13492 | D:10 | Noticed Eyebeam's ghost (novice DrCj)
13507 | D:10 | Killed Eyebeam's ghost
13530 | D:10 | Noticed a five-headed hydra
13783 | D:9 | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [mutagenic glow]
13826 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
13871 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 53/68 MP: 15/24
13874 | Lair:1 | Reached ***** piety under Vehumet
13919 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 7 in Armour
14435 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet.
14443 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Iron Shot
15392 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
15487 | Lair:2 | Noticed a death yak
15489 | Lair:2 | Noticed a death yak
15494 | Lair:2 | Noticed a death yak
15494 | Lair:2 | Noticed a death yak
15495 | Lair:2 | Noticed a death yak
15497 | Lair:2 | Killed a death yak
15503 | Lair:2 | Killed a death yak
15864 | Lair:1 | Killed a death yak
16006 | Lair:2 | Killed a death yak
16006 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
16198 | Lair:2 | Killed a death yak
16416 | Lair:2 | Noticed a six-headed hydra
16434 | Lair:2 | Killed a six-headed hydra
17222 | Lair:3 | Noticed a six-headed hydra
17311 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
17373 | Lair:3 | Killed a six-headed hydra
17718 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 61/76 MP: 6/26
17896 | Lair:3 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
18532 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
18604 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Armour
20544 | Lair:5 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
21758 | Lair:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
22354 | Lair:6 | Noticed Nessos
22419 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Throw Icicle by Vehumet.
22419 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Armour
23469 | Lair:6 | Noticed Snorg
23484 | Lair:5 | Gained mutation: Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely. [Gargoyle growth]
23484 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 66/83 MP: 9/27
23895 | Lair:5 | Killed Snorg
24452 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
24716 | Lair:6 | Killed Nessos
25441 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
25879 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Orb of Destruction by Vehumet.
26047 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
27196 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction
27789 | D:11 | Found Paup's Armour Emporium.
27846 | D:11 | Noticed Psyche
27847 | D:11 | Killed Psyche
28508 | D:11 | Found Susicw Muth's Armour Emporium.
28765 | D:11 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 89/89 MP: 25/30
28873 | D:11 | Found Porr's Weapon Emporium.
29455 | D:12 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
29462 | D:12 | Got a twisted falchion {slice}
29467 | D:12 | Identified the +8 falchion of the End {slice, Dex+4 Stlth+} (You took it off an orc on level 12 of the Dungeon)
29504 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
29815 | Lair:1 | Identified the Disquisition on Enchanting Stones (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
29920 | D:12 | Got a shimmering robe
29926 | D:12 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
30844 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
31080 | D:13 | Identified the +2 robe of Space {Regen+ rCorr Dex-5 Stlth-} (You took it off a meliai on level 12 of the Dungeon)
31259 | D:13 | Reached ****** piety under Vehumet
31262 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Freezing Cloud by Vehumet.
31485 | D:13 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
31878 | D:13 | Found Irubb's Distillery.
32094 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults.
32255 | D:14 | Noticed Tricyclerider's ghost (journeyman DrTm)
32280 | D:14 | Killed Tricyclerider's ghost
32782 | D:14 | Found Imeam's Weapon Emporium.
32856 | D:14 | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud
33543 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
34403 | D:15 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
34413 | D:15 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 91/96 MP: 26/33
34415 | D:15 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet.
34800 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths.
34820 | D:15 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
35508 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
35789 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
35911 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
35931 | Orc:2 | Found Roriarong's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
36190 | Orc:2 | Found Gufrimiv's Antique Armour Boutique.
36704 | Orc:1 | You fall through a shaft!
36704 | Orc:2 | Found Ewuewo's Book Emporium.
36704 | Orc:2 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
37468 | Orc:1 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet.
38156 | Orc:2 | Found Kouxzoaq's Armour Shop.
38156 | Orc:2 | Found Wargheopp's Assorted Antiques.
38158 | Orc:2 | Found Doph's Armour Emporium.
38158 | Orc:2 | Found Exzim's Antique Weapon Emporium.
38467 | Orc:2 | Found Oleffoqo's General Store.
38489 | Orc:2 | Found Myezxiod's General Store.
38843 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
38932 | Spider:1 | Got an ancient buckler
38933 | Spider:1 | Identified the +3 buckler "Izuwk" {+Inv Int+5} (You found it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)
39186 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
40155 | Spider:1 | Got a clouded copper ring
40156 | Spider:1 | Identified the ring "Idwosuz" {*Corrode rElec rPois rF+} (You found it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)
40624 | Spider:1 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet.
40868 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Poison Arrow
41301 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
41978 | Spider:2 | Noticed Arachne
41989 | Spider:2 | Killed Arachne
41989 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
42998 | Spider:3 | Found a frozen archway.
43003 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 101/101 MP: 28/34
43031 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave
43431 | IceCv | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
44228 | IceCv | Offered knowledge of Lehudib's Crystal Spear by Vehumet.
44228 | IceCv | Offered knowledge of Shatter by Vehumet.
44228 | IceCv | Offered knowledge of Ignition by Vehumet.
45334 | IceCv | Reached skill level 11 in Armour
45487 | IceCv | Got an encrusted war axe
45558 | Spider:3 | Identified the +3 war axe "Lumyicsy" {vamp, Dex+5} (You found it in an ice cave)
45935 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
46854 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
47971 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
48508 | D:6 | Bought the +10 dark maul {crush} for 2201 gold pieces
48508 | D:6 | Found the +10 dark maul {crush}
48608 | D:5 | Killed Duvessa
48609 | D:5 | Killed Dowan
48837 | D:12 | You paid a toll of the dark maul to enter a treasure trove
48838 | Trove | Entered a treasure trove
48843 | Trove | Found the amulet of Vitality {Regen+ HP+15}
48843 | Trove | Found the amulet of the Air {Inacc +Fly rElec EV+5 RMsl}
48849 | Trove | Got a vibrating turquoise ring
48859 | Trove | Got a smoking brass ring
48861 | Trove | Got a vibrating marble ring
48863 | Trove | Got a faintly glowing amber ring
48991 | Lair:1 | Identified the ring of Dudus {Wiz rF+} (You found it in a treasure trove)
48993 | Lair:1 | Identified the ring "Ymeimaly" {*Tele rF+++ Int-2 Stlth+} (You found it in a treasure trove)
48995 | Lair:1 | Identified the ring "Rotuqat" {Wiz *Slow rElec rN+} (You found it in a treasure trove)
48997 | Lair:1 | Identified the ring "Saxt" {-Tele rPois rC+ Int+2 Stlth+} (You found it in a treasure trove)
51286 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 12 in Armour
51946 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
51985 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 110/110 MP: 8/35
54552 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
54895 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
55348 | Swamp:1 | Noticed Aizul
55368 | Swamp:1 | Killed Aizul
57516 | Orc:2 | Bought 3 scrolls of teleportation for 225 gold pieces
58694 | Swamp:2 | Identified the +0 leather armour of Boredom {rF+ rC+ MR- rCorr} (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
59605 | Swamp:3 | Noticed Louise
60013 | Swamp:3 | Killed Louise
60013 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 13 in Armour
61004 | Swamp:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
61721 | Swamp:4 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 116/116 MP: 19/36
62317 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Nikola
62347 | Swamp:4 | Killed Nikola
64454 | Swamp:4 | Got a decaying rune of Zot
65307 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
65531 | Elf:1 | Noticed Roxanne
65546 | Elf:1 | Killed Roxanne
65683 | Elf:1 | Identified Roxanne's Reference Book on Clay (You took it off Roxanne on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
65751 | Elf:1 | Got a brightly glowing bone ring
65752 | Elf:1 | Identified the ring "Epsuixke" {*Tele +Fly rC+ MR+ SInv} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
66513 | Elf:1 | Identified the Almanac of Calling
66553 | Elf:1 | Noticed MakMorn's ghost (adept GnWz)
66579 | Elf:1 | Killed MakMorn's ghost
66839 | Elf:1 | Found Nexkuhiy's Jewellery Shoppe.
66839 | Elf:1 | Found Duofrip's Gadget Shop.
66846 | Elf:1 | Found Vebia's Gadget Shop.
68029 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate.
68029 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate.
68030 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate.
68477 | Elf:2 | Found Gecuxki's Assorted Antiques.
68485 | Elf:2 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 292 gold pieces
68485 | Elf:2 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 117 gold pieces
68563 | Elf:2 | Found Oresaut's Assorted Antiques.
68726 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Armour
68817 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations
69168 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
69573 | Elf:2 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 117/123 MP: 18/37
70729 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Borgnjor's Vile Clutch
71021 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
72126 | Elf:3 | Cast into level 2 of the Abyss (a deep elf sorcerer)
72132 | Abyss:2 | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
72293 | Abyss:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
72529 | Abyss:2 | Noticed a bone dragon
72553 | Abyss:2 | Killed a bone dragon
72729 | Elf:3 | Escaped the Abyss
73009 | Elf:3 | Got a wavering amber ring
73014 | Elf:3 | Identified the ring "Erefiahe" {rN+ EV+4} (You took it off a deep elf mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
75220 | Elf:3 | Got a translucent wooden ring
75221 | Elf:3 | Identified the ring of Jeiqaiph {*Tele rElec rC- Str-5 Slay+5} (You took it off a deep elf sorcerer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
75340 | Elf:3 | Reached skill level 16 in Armour
75645 | Elf:3 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 123/130 MP: 31/38
75797 | Elf:3 | Identified Sif Muna's Lost Grimoire of Boris
76009 | Elf:3 | Got a dazzling quick blade
76010 | Elf:3 | Identified the +1 quick blade "Caunnof" {holy, Str+3 Dex-3 SInv} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
76050 | Elf:3 | Got a bloodstained helmet
76061 | Elf:3 | Identified the +0 helmet of Duty {Int-5 Slay+5} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
76570 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
76570 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Asterion
76575 | Vaults:1 | Killed Asterion
77361 | Vaults:1 | Found Cohoripp's Antique Armour Shoppe.
77497 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
80701 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
82288 | Vaults:2 | Identified the ring "Ilauwim" {rElec Str+3 Int-2 Dex+4} (You took it off an ogre mage on level 2 of the Vaults)
82755 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 139/139 MP: 20/40
82791 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Saint Roka
83064 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
83160 | Vaults:3 | Killed Saint Roka
83368 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
83519 | Vaults:3 | Found the macabre finger necklace {rN+}
84244 | Vaults:3 | Found Kegg's Antique Weapon Boutique.
84247 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
84247 | Vaults:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
84248 | Vaults:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
85506 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
86526 | Vaults:4 | Learned a level 8 spell: Lehudib's Crystal Spear
87443 | Vaults:4 | Found the +3 pair of gauntlets of War {Slay+5}
88315 | Vaults:4 | Found Qotuq's General Store.
88622 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 143/144 MP: 25/41
89032 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Animate Skeleton
89180 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
89282 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell.
89296 | Depths:1 | Got a smoking silver ring
89297 | Depths:1 | Identified the ring "Nareckeo" {+Fly Int+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Depths)
90376 | Depths:2 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
90509 | Depths:2 | Noticed a caustic shrike
90513 | Depths:2 | Killed a caustic shrike
90513 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
90610 | Depths:2 | Found the +6 shillelagh "Devastator" {shatter}
90821 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
91253 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
91456 | Depths:2 | Got a brightly glowing scale mail
91661 | Lair:1 | Identified the +0 scale mail of Afiomej {rElec Regen+ rCorr Int+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Depths)
92113 | Depths:2 | Found Jeustries's Magic Scroll Shop.
93951 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
94219 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Earth Magic
94413 | Depths:3 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
94442 | Depths:3 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 131/150 MP: 42/42
95112 | Depths:3 | Identified the cursed +0 robe "Qyuciy" {+Blink} (You found it on level 3 of the Depths)
95335 | Depths:3 | Noticed Jorgrun
95339 | Depths:3 | Killed Jorgrun
95677 | Depths:3 | Got a glittering emerald amulet
95678 | Depths:3 | Identified the amulet "Kegaj" {Spirit rElec Dex+4} (You took it off a crimson imp on level 3 of the Depths)
96859 | D:13 | Bought 2 potions of curing for 78 gold pieces
96859 | D:13 | Bought a potion of agility for 52 gold pieces
96859 | D:13 | Bought a potion of brilliance for 52 gold pieces
96859 | D:13 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 65 gold pieces
96859 | D:13 | Bought a potion of haste for 130 gold pieces
96859 | D:13 | Bought a potion of might for 52 gold pieces
97163 | Depths:3 | Noticed an ancient lich
97193 | Depths:3 | Killed an ancient lich
98788 | Depths:4 | Noticed an ancient lich
98795 | Depths:4 | Killed an ancient lich
98883 | Depths:4 | Paralysed by an ogre mage for 6 turns
99120 | Depths:4 | Cast into level 4 of the Abyss (a Zot trap)
99356 | Abyss:4 | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [a neqoxec]
99834 | Depths:4 | Escaped the Abyss
99946 | Depths:4 | Got a jewelled plate armour
99957 | Depths:4 | Identified the +12 plate armour of Gehenna {rPois Str+6 Int-5} (You acquired it on level 4 of the Depths)
99959 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths
99971 | Depths:5 | Noticed a caustic shrike
99975 | Depths:5 | Noticed a caustic shrike
99977 | Depths:4 | Killed a caustic shrike
100642 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
100738 | Depths:4 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 156/156 MP: 42/42
100902 | Depths:4 | Paralysed by a floating eye for 4 turns
101060 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
101396 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 17 in Armour
101820 | Depths:4 | Got a colourful robe
102018 | Depths:4 | Found Heudd's Armour Shop.
102685 | Depths:4 | Noticed Xtahua
102691 | Depths:4 | Killed Xtahua
102691 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 18 in Armour
103684 | Depths:5 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
103720 | Depths:5 | Identified the Disquisition on Heat
103844 | Depths:5 | Found Cufoaniwn's Antique Weapon Shop.
104672 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
105296 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 19 in Armour
106080 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
106159 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 26. HP: 131/163 MP: 25/42
106384 | Vaults:5 | Got a clouded amber ring
106667 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot
106671 | Vaults:5 | Got a pair of transparent gloves
106675 | Vaults:5 | Identified the Tome of Lethal Earth
106871 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 20 in Armour
107079 | Vaults:5 | Got a crude marble ring
107129 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring of Zymoalea {*Tele rPois} (You took it off a vault warden on level 5 of the Vaults)
107203 | Vaults:5 | Found the +4 dagger "Morg" {pain, MR+ Int+5}
107225 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +2 pair of gloves of the Present {Int-2 Dex+4} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
107342 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring "Boloz" {rF+ rC+ rN+ Dex+4} (You took it off a vault warden on level 5 of the Vaults)
107351 | Vaults:5 | Got a clouded jade ring
107376 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring of Neyzopho {Str+4 Int+5 Dex+4} (You took it off a vault guard on level 5 of the Vaults)
107673 | Vaults:5 | Got a pair of shimmering gloves
107684 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +0 pair of gloves of the Cooper {Int+2} (You acquired it on level 5 of the Vaults)
108767 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of fear for 49 gold pieces
108767 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 42 gold pieces
108819 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 87 gold pieces
109003 | Depths:2 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 60 gold pieces
109003 | Depths:2 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 60 gold pieces
109003 | Depths:2 | Bought a scroll of fog for 40 gold pieces
109003 | Depths:2 | Bought a scroll of fog for 40 gold pieces
109003 | Depths:2 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 70 gold pieces
109511 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Evocations
109652 | Vaults:5 | Got a twitching platinum ring
109687 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring of Vehumet's Reproof {rCorr Str+2} (You took it off an ironbrand convoker on level 5 of the Vaults)
109896 | Vaults:5 | Found the +4 arc blade {discharge, rElec}
109904 | Vaults:5 | Identified the Grimoire of Evil Attacks
110667 | Zot:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
111088 | Zot:1 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 170/170 MP: 14/42
112606 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Armour
115118 | Zot:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
116719 | Zot:3 | Noticed an ancient lich
116739 | Zot:3 | Killed an ancient lich
119756 | Zot:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
120245 | Crypt:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
121734 | Crypt:2 | Noticed Khufu
121744 | Crypt:2 | Killed Khufu
122045 | Crypt:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Lightning Spire
122146 | Crypt:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Crypt
122802 | Crypt:3 | Identified the cursed +0 pair of boots "Megixt" {rPois} (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
123215 | Crypt:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
123236 | Crypt:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Armour
123996 | Crypt:3 | Found a staircase to the Tomb.

Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Conjurations | 2 3 4 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 | 18.0
Armour | 1 3 5 6 7 9 10 12 13 14 16 19 20 22 | 22.5
Stealth | 3 6 8 9 11 14 16 | 16.5
Air Magic | 3 4 5 6 7 | 7.0
Spellcasting | 3 4 5 8 9 11 13 14 15 | 15.0
Fighting | 2 3 5 7 8 9 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 | 18.0
Dodging | 2 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 17 | 17.0
Charms | 1 2 3 4 5 | 5.0
Translocations | 1 3 | 3.0
Evocations | 1 2 3 6 8 10 11 12 14 15 | 15.0
Earth Magic | 5 7 9 10 11 12 13 15 17 18 19 | 19.0
Ice Magic | 5 6 | 6.0
Shields | 4 | 4.0
Poison Magic | 3 4 6 | 6.0
Short Blades | 4 8 | 8.0
Necromancy | 2 3 | 3.0
Summonings | 1 2 4 | 4.0

Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger | 42 | | | | 27 | 1 | | | || 70
Short sword | 29 | | 185 | 44 | | | | | || 258
Scimitar | 15 | 91 | 36 | | | | | | || 142
Spear | | | | 79 | | | | | || 79
Long sword | | | | 15 | | | | | || 15
Staff | | | | 30 | 208 | 60 | 14 | 24 | 49 || 385
Falchion | | | | | 211 | 475 | 150 | | || 836
Quick blade | | | | | | | 281 | 1535 | 4205 || 6021
Throw: Stone | 2 | 1 | 26 | | | | | | || 29
Tomahawk | | | 9 | | 9 | 17 | 17 | 36 | 15 || 103
Javelin | | | | | 7 | | | | || 7
Cast: Shock | 57 | 61 | 161 | 310 | 328 | 141 | 52 | 30 | 1 || 1141
Static Discharge | | 8 | 32 | 72 | 276 | 74 | | | || 462
Swiftness | | 1 | | 1 | | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 || 9
Conjure Flame | | | 1 | 1 | | | 7 | 6 | 1 || 16
Blink | | | | 12 | 5 | 8 | 2 | 7 | 3 || 37
Lightning Bolt | | | | 50 | 134 | 73 | 4 | | || 261
Mephitic Cloud | | | | 7 | 11 | | | | || 18
Iron Shot | | | | 2 | 87 | 411 | 279 | 198 | 232 || 1209
Freezing Cloud | | | | | 3 | 37 | 51 | 61 | 31 || 183
Poison Arrow | | | | | | 208 | 260 | 178 | 106 || 752
Regeneration | | | | | | 3 | 2 | 2 | 17 || 24
Orb of Destructio | | | | | | 33 | 45 | 27 | 44 || 149
Summon Butterflie | | | | | | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 || 7
Borgnjor's Vile C | | | | | | | 33 | 59 | 72 || 164
Lehudib's Crystal | | | | | | | | 74 | 65 || 139
Animate Skeleton | | | | | | | | 3 | 15 || 18
Abil: Fly | | | | | | 3 | | | 1 || 4
Stop Flying | | | | | | 2 | | | 1 || 3
Evoke Invisibilit | | | | | | 1 | | 1 | 2 || 4
Evoke: Wand | | | 3 | 8 | 16 | 14 | 20 | 11 | 5 || 77
Staff of energy | | | | | 4 | | 1 | 1 | 10 || 16
Box of beasts | | | | | | | 1 | | || 1
Phial of floods | | | | | | | 1 | | || 1
Lightning rod | | | | | | | | 2 | 4 || 6
Crystal ball of e | | | | | | | | | 27 || 27
Use: Potion | | 5 | | | | 8 | 3 | 4 | 6 || 26
Scroll | | 2 | 9 | 12 | 14 | 21 | 6 | 14 | 15 || 93
Stab: Sleeping | 3 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 10 || 36
Distracted | | | | 1 | | | 1 | 4 | 3 || 9
Confused | | | | | 3 | | | | || 3
Paralysed | | | | | 13 | | | | || 13
Invisible | | | | | | | | 1 | 9 || 10
Eat: Chunk | 3 | 8 | 7 | 15 | 24 | 24 | 28 | 42 | 41 || 192
Ration | | 1 | 4 | 4 | 10 | 23 | 13 | 6 | 12 || 73
Armor: Robe | 41 | 43 | 136 | 52 | | | | | || 272
Leather armour | 18 | | | 122 | 214 | | | | || 354
Skin | | 11 | | | | | | | || 11
Troll leather arm | | | | | 405 | 852 | 234 | 279 | || 1770
Plate armour | | | | | | | | 25 | 1350 || 1375
Dodge: Dodged | 80 | 88 | 265 | 393 | 976 | 1305 | 622 | 995 | 1428 || 6152
Block: Buckler | | | | | | 499 | 276 | 330 | 749 || 1854
Rpst.: Scimitar | 6 | 25 | 12 | | | | | | || 43
Long sword | | | | 9 | | | | | || 9
Falchion | | | | | 50 | 146 | 35 | | || 231


I've got high Armour skill, the subdued magic mut, and a Wiz ring so I'm casting comfortably in the +12 plate at the moment. I'm using Vile Clutch + Freezing Cloud + conjurations to kill everything. I know I don't need four different projectile spells but they all have a different max range so I'm still using each one at different times. What are good spells to aim for from here and what should I drop?

I went for quick blades because of the low skill investment but should I be giving any more thought to other weapons or elemental staves?

Should I be pumping Evo as well to make the best use of crystal ball/evokables? My skilling is already quite broad so I'm worried about hitting the ceilings of the necessary skills.

I've also read about about converting religions being advised for extended but don't have any experience with that.

Any advice you can give would be much appreciated!

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Post Saturday, 19th May 2018, 18:17

Re: [CiP] GrAE^Veh: How far can I go? (Advice pls)

That guy looks really strong and well setup for extended. If you want to and can tolerate a death, go for it.

Poison Arrow still works on demons, but less effectively, so I'd think about amnesia for that. With OoD & Crystal Spear, Iron Shot doesn't have much of a niche, so I'd amnesia that. I think most folks here would disagree, but I'd think about adding Bolt of Fire and Bolt of Cold, Fire since it's full LOS under Vehumet and both to counter monster resistances. (Use examine x-v to check.)

I'd also consider a level 9 spell eventually. It's totally not necessary, but often convenient. Shatter should be fairly easy from 19 Earth, but many demons fly so it's not as useful. (Most/all monsters in Slime are resistant too.). Tornado and Fire Storm are best and Glaciate is ok. I don't have any experience with Dragons' Call.

If you go that route, you may need lighter armour.

I'd look for a weapon upgrade. The best one-hamded weapons only take 12–18 skill, which isn't much at this point. Holy branded is super strong.

I'd also consider a regular shield (plus 15 Shields) as a good upgrade, although the +5 Int on that buckler is strong.

As for gods, Vehumet is great in extended if you're mainly using spells to kill things. If you are really feeling bold, TSO & Zin are great, but you need to train 12-15 Invocations and remember to *use their active abilities*.

Edit: Consider Ignition too: it's fun, level 8, and single school.

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Post Sunday, 20th May 2018, 12:38

Re: [CiP] GrAE^Veh: How far can I go? (Advice pls)

Many thanks for the advice!

Bolt of Cold/Fire was a good idea which I wasn't able to capitalise on before I died, I did amnesia Iron Shot and pick up Spellforged Servitor, which was amazing. Picking up a holy-branded mace of some kind was something I really wish I had done sooner, I didn't realise how inefficient the quick blades had become in terms of damage output, even when attacking at 0.3 speed. I wanted to find a decent shield but nothing better than the buckler turned up.

I lost the character in Dis with the other three Hell runes in pocket. My one huge dumb mistake was leaving my character with blurry vision; I knew it was bad but I should have quaffed my remaining !mut if there was any chance to get rid of it. I ran out of MP after trying to Passage/run away from The Serpent of Hell + minions, I won the stand-up fight by burning evocables but got chased down by a Hell Sentinel who Damnationed me 3-4 times in a row - I just couldn't break LoS thanks to my slow reading speed.

Not upset I tried it out, lots of experience and lessons learned for future games!

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Post Sunday, 20th May 2018, 20:49

Re: [CiP] GrAE^Veh: How far can I go? (Advice pls)

That seems like a great run for your first time in extended.

Pan is not too different from the Hells. Tomb is different and nasty, so be careful there next time.

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