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Temple Termagant

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 01:32

What to do? Where to go?

So I have for the first time in my crawl career 3 runes! (Snake, Svamp and Vault) So my question is now what should i do now?
Lets start with my char dump.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-4342-gff17aec character file.

Meep the Blocker (Demonspawn Chaos Knight) Turns: 88531, Time: 05:46:14

HP 177/177 AC 33 Str 20 Exp: 22/710375 (3), need: 80024
MP 35/35 EV 3 Int 15 God: Makhleb [******]
Gold 3527 SH 47 Dex 17 Spells: 0 memorised, 23 levels left

Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . M - +6,+7 broad axe (speed)
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . w - +7 crystal plate mail
Life Prot.: + + . Conserve : . H - +8 shield of Ignorance {rN+ AC+2 EV+2 Int-
Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (helmet restricted)
Res.Poison: + Clarity : . q - -4 cloak "Gatsi Gho" {+Blink rN+ Dam+3}
Res.Elec. : + Spirit.Shd : . (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . (no boots)
Res.Mut. : + Ctrl.Telep.: . E - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . C - ring "Qeabre" {Str+3 Dex+3 Int+2}
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . r - ring of poison resistance

@: quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: claws 3, horns 3, talons 1, conserve scrolls, demonic guardian 3, fire resistance 1, nightstalker 3, AC +3, Int +1
a: Minor Destruction, Lesser Servant of Makhleb, Major Destruction, Greater Servant of Makhleb, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink


You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Makhleb.
Makhleb is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and seen 62 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have visited 2 portal chambers: sewer, volcano.

You have collected 5904 gold pieces.
You have spent 2397 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
M - a +6,+7 broad axe of speed (weapon)
X - the +1,+6 flail "Biylyel" {freeze, +Rage MR Dex+1 Int+2 SInv}
(You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly
susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
It affects your intelligence (+2).
It affects your dexterity (+1).
It increases your resistance to enchantments.
It enhances your eyesight.
It lets you go berserk.
Armour
q - the -4 cloak "Gatsi Gho" (worn) {+Blink rN+ Dam+3}
(You found it on level 6 of the Vaults)
It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
It protects you from negative energy.
It lets you blink.
w - a +7 crystal plate mail (worn)
H - the +8 shield of Ignorance (worn) {rN+ AC+2 EV+2 Int-6 Curse}
(You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
It affects your AC (+2).
It affects your evasion (+2).
It affects your intelligence (-6).
It protects you from negative energy.
It may recurse itself.
Magical devices
a - a wand of digging (9)
h - a wand of hasting (7)
p - a wand of healing (6)
N - a wand of disintegration (4)
T - a wand of teleportation (6)
Comestibles
L - 14 bread rations
Scrolls
f - 10 scrolls of teleportation
i - 15 scrolls of identify
Jewellery
j - a ring of protection from fire
r - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
C - the ring "Qeabre" (right hand) {Str+3 Dex+3 Int+2}
(You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
[ring of dexterity]
It affects your dexterity (+3).
It affects your strength (+3).
It affects your intelligence (+2).
E - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
I - an uncursed ring of teleport control
Potions
c - a potion of resistance
e - a potion of berserk rage
l - a potion of invisibility
v - 5 potions of heal wounds
z - 11 potions of healing
B - a potion of speed
J - a potion of cure mutation
R - 7 potions of levitation
S - 5 potions of might


You have 3 experience left.

Skills:
+ Level 15 Fighting
- Level 15 Axes
- Level 13 Maces & Flails
+ Level 15 Armour
- Level 2 Dodging
- Level 2 Stabbing
+ Level 17 Shields
+ Level 4 Traps & Doors
+ Level 13 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 1 Spellcasting
+ Level 13 Invocations
+ Level 3 Evocations


You have 23 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (4/4) D:11
Elf (1/7) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:13 Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Snake (5/5) Lair:4 Hive (2/2) D:11
Vault (8/8) D:17 Blade (1/1) Vault:6 Crypt (0/5) Vault:2
Zot (0/5) D:27

Altars:
Elyvilon
Kikubaaqudgha
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Beogh

Shops:
D:18: ? D:20: [ D:23: = D:24: % Orc:2: ! Snake:3: ? Vault:2: * Vault:4: [

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:25 D:27
Pan: D:21 D:23 D:24
Trove: D:15 (+2 robe of resistance)

Annotations
D:13 exclusion: silver statue
Swamp:5 exclusions: 24 flame clouds and 147 steam clouds


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have claws for hands.
You have a pair of large horns on your head.
You have sharp toenails.
You are completely covered in thin metallic scales (AC +3, rElec).
You are very good at protecting items from fire.
A powerful demonic guardian rushes to your aid.
Your flesh is heat resistant.
You are completely attuned to the shadows.
Your mind is acute (Int +1).


Now some questions.

Is my weapon good enough for zot and i should enchant it as much as possible or should i try to find something else?
If i need something else where should i look?

What more resistances do i need for zot? All i have right now is what i have on me and some more fire resistances rings in my stash

Do you think i should go for a 3 rune win or risk it even more and try to steal some other runes aor explore some other brances?

And yes i found the crystal plate on D:1 ;)

This thread can be used for similar questions and dilemmas if wanted.

I'm grateful for any advice or help! :)

Vaults Vanquisher

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 01:48

Re: What to do? Where to go?

That's a pretty sweet setup you got there with those mutations. If it's your first time, I'd not risk it and just go for the win; there'll always be more chances for a full-rune win later.

Temple Termagant

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 01:53

Re: What to do? Where to go?

szanth wrote:That's a pretty sweet setup you got there with those mutations. If it's your first time, I'd not risk it and just go for the win; there'll always be more chances for a full-rune win later.


Yeah. Summoning Greater demons randomly, while a little unreliable helps alot in though fights :D

But do you think my weapon is good enough? should i go double fire resistance rings so i have Rf+++ and resist mutation for fire orbs or is a controlled tele ring and 1 fire res ring better? (Btw i read on bot that you could let the orbs of fire live and shoot at you sp the other monsters around you die if you have Rf+++ and resist mut. Is that a failsafe method? can he still hit me with mutations and fire damage?)

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 02:06

Re: What to do? Where to go?

I'd take the rf+++ and resist mut. You don't want to risk fucking with your awesome mutations, having them go away or anything, or god forbid you get a horrible one like berserkitis or something. Honestly, to me, the end-game isn't really very fun; at least, not in comparison to the mid-game. Too many things that you -can't- defend against, no matter how strong or prepared you are. So if it were me I'd be in a hurry to win and get to another character and get back to mid-game. :P

Dunno about the technique you mentioned, never tried it before, myself.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 02:13

Re: What to do? Where to go?

Your weapon is excellent. You should have no complaints about it; you can pump it up with more enchant weapon scrolls but otherwise it's probably the best possible non-artifact axe.

Crypt is easy. Very easy. There's no reason not to sweep through, and there's some potentially good loot on the fifth level. Tomb is not easy, though.

You're definitely going to want more fire resistance. Orbs of Fire have to be experienced to be understood properly, but you will surely want more rF than you have. Expect to burn a charge of your wand of hasting every time you even see one, and NEVER stick around if there's an Orb of Fire and another monster on-screen at the same time.

Elf probably won't be too bad, although the bottom level is MUCH worse than the other six. There's a good chance for shops or portal vaults that could provide the rF you REALLY want.

Slime, Hells, and Pandemonium are probably going to be pretty rough with your current resistances and lack of reusable ranged attacks, so I wouldn't risk those.

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 03:34

Re: What to do? Where to go?

If you can't handle Elf, then you wouldn't survive Zot anyway. Draconians are basically top-end elves, only with more hit points, and they're popcorn monsters in Zot.

Even the end vault of Crypt should be manageable. Zot has Curse Toes and Ancient Liches already, and Crypt can't really field any non-uniques worse than those.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Demonspawn fire facet gives more levels of fire resistance. Capstone ability of the facet is conservation for scrolls, and he already has that. Leveling up the rest of the way will probably cause Talons 3, but nothing else of note.

Temple Termagant

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 03:35

Re: What to do? Where to go?

My most humble thanks for all the advice ^^ cleared the crypt and first levels of elf but got nothing special so i decided to tackle zot and... I won! my first win! so happy ^^ My next goal is to win a game without a D:1 crystal plate =P

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 03:37

Re: What to do? Where to go?

Congratulations! So… What did you think of those Orbs of Fire? Fun, aren't they?

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 03:46

Re: What to do? Where to go?

KoboldLord wrote:Congratulations! So… What did you think of those Orbs of Fire? Fun, aren't they?


actually i didnt have to much of a problem with them even when i encountered 2 at the same time. Had Rf +++ and Rmut + so they didnt do alot of damage or give me any bad mutations and i spammed greater demons whenever i met one that plus my own natural demons took care of them. But nearly got killed by those blinking lightning golems they where a pain and all the mottled dragons burned my scrolls away even though i had that item fire protection mutation >.<.

Does the Victory dump save anywhere or did i miss that option and it's gone now?
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Slime Squisher

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 03:47

Re: What to do? Where to go?

szanth wrote:I'd take the rf+++ and resist mut. You don't want to risk fucking with your awesome mutations, having them go away or anything, or god forbid you get a horrible one like berserkitis or something. Honestly, to me, the end-game isn't really very fun; at least, not in comparison to the mid-game. Too many things that you -can't- defend against, no matter how strong or prepared you are. So if it were me I'd be in a hurry to win and get to another character and get back to mid-game. :P

Dunno about the technique you mentioned, never tried it before, myself.


His mutations are innate to his race, he cannot lose them. But he can get some new ones which can be quite bad.

The Amulet of Resist Mutation will protect you in in 9 of 10 cases (90%) from getting a mutation, you will not be immune to mutations.
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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 03:49

Re: What to do? Where to go?

lollipopman91 wrote:
KoboldLord wrote:Congratulations! So… What did you think of those Orbs of Fire? Fun, aren't they?


actually i didnt have to much of a problem with them even when i encountered 2 at the same time. Had Rf +++ and Rmut + so they didnt do alot of damage or give me any bad mutations and i spammed greater demons whenever i met one that plus my own natural demons took care of them. But nearly got killed by those blinking lightning golems they where a pain and all the mottled dragons burned my scrolls away even though i had that item fire protection mutation >.<.

Does the Victory dump save anywhere or did i miss that option and it's gone now?


It would be in the MORGUE folder.
On a Mac Morgue is in Application Support, not sure about Windows or Linux.
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Temple Termagant

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 14:20

Re: What to do? Where to go?

it would be in the MORGUE folder.
On a Mac Morgue is in Application Support, not sure about Windows or Linux.


I looked there (The morgue folder in the same directory as the game files) but all i find is my char dump that i did for this thread

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Post Saturday, 8th January 2011, 16:34

Re: What to do? Where to go?

On windows it's in %APPDATA%\crawl\morgue

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