Trying to win a DD

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 20:23 by jwoodward48ss

So I've... never won. And I've played quite a bit. DD appear to be OP and tedious, so they're perfect for a win!

I'm planning to start as a DDAr and worship Pak. Is that a good strategy?

Some other questions will probably follow, but here's one for now: How should I allot skills on a DDAr? Obviously, armour is good, but evo is necessary for my killdudes. Or should I switch to LB for my killdudes?

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 20:29 by dowan

I thought DD had good axe apts, at least, my DD win was with an axe.
DDar isn't a terrible start, and training evo on a DD is a good idea. But I would suggest playing as a meleedude for the most part, wearing heavy armor and swinging a big axe around. I suppose worshipping pak means you don't even have to worry about using your own MP pool to recharge your heal wand...

If you're picking a god solely on making it easier to win, I'd say go with trog, but keep the rest of your plan pretty much the same. Train fighting, axes, dodging, armor, and evocations. Trog's hand will give you some healing, but you won't have enough piety to completely rely on it. You'll use your heal wand when needed, and since you're training evo, you'll have plenty of MP points to spend on recharging your heal wand.

I think your plan will still work with Pak, but you can't start with Pak, and while Pak is more helpful strategically, trog will be more helpful tactically. Since you have basically unlimited HW either way, you don't really need any help strategically...

EDIT: Also, trog will gift you weapons, which will on occasion actually be useful. So that's something too.

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 20:32 by Magipi

I've heard that DD and Pak is a good combo, but I suggest you go Makhleb. Try Pak with a Mi or HO or something who does not have to spend half of the Pak piety on self-healing.

jwoodward48ss wrote:Or should I switch to LB for my killdudes?

Why LB? You mean axes, right?

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 21:01 by jwoodward48ss

Well, I thought it might be a while before I could get an axe and skill it up enough, but I was proven wrong by experimentation IN THE NAME OF PAKELLAS!

Here's my current situation:

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file. Figem the Covered (Deep Dwarf Artificer) Turns: 5791, Time: 00:16:33 Health: 70/81 AC: 14 Str: 16 XL: 9 Next: 35% Magic: 20/20 EV: 7 Int: 12 God: Pakellas [......] Gold: 338 SH: 3 Dex: 16 Spells: 0 memorised, 8 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . h - +1 broad axe rCold . . . Gourm . j - +0 plate armour rNeg . . . Faith . (no shield) rPois . Spirit . s - +0 helmet rElec . Dismiss . (no cloak) rCorr . Reflect + (no gloves) SustAt . Harm . (no boots) MR +.... u - +3 amulet of reflection Stlth .......... p - ring of flight l - ring of magical power @: non-regenerating, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, sense surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3 a: Device Recharging, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight You are on level 7 of the Dungeon. You worship Pakellas. Pakellas is noncommittal. You are very hungry. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 8 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer and Ossuary. You have collected 338 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +0 short sword h - a +1 broad axe (weapon) w - a +0 long sword B - a +0 dire flail Missiles b - 12 tomahawks v - a throwing net (quivered) Q - 15 bolts Armour j - a +0 plate armour (worn) s - a +0 helmet (worn) R - a leather armour Jewellery l - a ring of magical power (left hand) p - a ring of flight (right hand) u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck) Wands c - a wand of flame (37/48) d - a wand of enslavement (15/24) e - a wand of random effects (15/48) f - a wand of heal wounds (4/9) r - a wand of iceblast (8/15) y - a wand of confusion (13/48) C - a wand of flame (14/48) J - a wand of flame (29/48) Scrolls n - 3 scrolls of teleportation o - a scroll of remove curse F - 2 scrolls of blinking G - 2 scrolls of fear H - 3 scrolls of fog I - 4 scrolls of identify K - 3 scrolls of magic mapping L - a scroll of enchant weapon M - a scroll labeled VAFECZ FOANT Potions k - 6 potions of curing m - a potion of heal wounds x - 2 yellow potions A - a bubbling purple potion D - 5 orange potions E - 2 white potions N - 2 fizzy inky potions O - a cyan potion P - 2 grey potions S - a glowing black potion Comestibles g - 4 bread rations i - 5 meat rations q - a royal jelly t - 2 beef jerkies z - 4 fruits Skills: + Level 5.0 Fighting + Level 2.0(2.1) Short Blades + Level 1.0(1.7) Long Blades * Level 5.9(6.7) Axes + Level 4.3(5.6) Maces & Flails + Level 6.5 Armour + Level 5.1 Dodging + Level 2.2 Stealth * Level 6.4 Evocations You have 8 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (7/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Annotations: D:3 !sigmund, Sigmund Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. Message History Okay, then. Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands. Returning to the game... There is a stone staircase leading down here. Done exploring. Done exploring. Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands. Returning to the game... You are feeling very hungry. Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands. Returning to the game... There is a stone staircase leading down here. You climb downwards. There is a stone staircase leading up here. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer. Pakellas says: This is producing some very interesting results. Press ? for a list of commands and other information. Okay, then. Found a leather armour. * * *, , , * * , , , , *** , * , .... , ... * ,...## .[.# , , #..# ** * ..# #.# *############@# *.......<.....# #.############ ,*** , * * , * * *, , * ** , ,, * * There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Edmund (D:4) 2 water moccasins 3 ogres 2 ice beasts (D:5) A black bear (D:6) 2 phantoms (D:6) 6 giant frogs 2 scorpions (D:4) A crimson imp (D:5) 3 orc wizards (D:5) 5 hounds 3 human zombies (Ossuary) 4 orc priests A giant frog skeleton (D:4) 2 iguanas 2 worker ants 2 hound zombies (D:5) 4 mummies (Ossuary) 6 gnolls 13 adders 7 river rats (Sewer) 4 shadow imps 2 oozes (D:4) 3 adder zombies 2 worms A dart slug (D:2) 3 giant geckos 14 orcs 6 bats 5 giant cockroaches 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 10 goblins 9 hobgoblins 11 jackals 10 kobolds 3 quokkas 15 ball pythons 8 giant newts A jackal skeleton (D:5) 3 jackal zombies (Ossuary) A kobold zombie (Ossuary) An orc zombie (Ossuary) 2 quokka zombies 26 rats 214 creatures vanquished. Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 198 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5 383 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 581 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6 766 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1144 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1144 | D:2 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 1145 | D:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 1221 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1650 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7 1774 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 1885 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8 2134 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2134 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2137 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2543 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2547 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 2560 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2560 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8 3010 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3017 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3305 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Killed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 3322 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9 3759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 3948 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3969 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4248 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 4355 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10 4662 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 4955 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 4962 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4969 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4969 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11 5175 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5200 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive 5254 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5309 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5382 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 | ---------------+----------------------------+----- Short Blades | 1 2 | 2.0 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 | 5.0 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 | 6.5 Dodging | 3 4 5 | 5.1 Evocations | 5 6 | 6.4 Stealth | 2 | 2.2 Long Blades | 1 | 1.0 Axes | 1 3 5 | 5.9 Maces & Flails | 1 3 4 | 4.3 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 382 || 477 Dire flail | | | 45 || 45 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 || 2 Evoke Flight | | | 3 || 3 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 26 || 46 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 || 12 Potion | | | 2 || 2 Stab: Confused | | 1 | || 1 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 6 || 13 Bread ration | | | 1 || 1 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | || 142 Plate armour | | 62 | 467 || 529 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 277 || 538 Block: Other | | 24 | 94 || 118

I found a bunch of cool loot! Plate armour on D:2, "oReflection somewhere below that, SO AWESOME.

So basically the plan is "kill stuff, get magic and piety, heal thyself"?

And I'm planning on using axes and m&f, mostly the latter for dealing with hydrae. Because sometimes wands just don't cut it.

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 21:43 by jwoodward48ss

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file. Figem the Cleaver (Deep Dwarf Artificer) Turns: 9565, Time: 00:30:11 Health: 60/100 AC: 16 Str: 16 XL: 11 Next: 74% Magic: 4/25 EV: 8 Int: 12 God: Pakellas [*.....] Gold: 608 SH: 3 Dex: 16 Spells: 0 memorised, 10 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . h - +1 broad axe rCold . . . Gourm . j - +0 plate armour rNeg . . . Faith . (no shield) rPois . Spirit . s - +1 helmet rElec . Dismiss . (no cloak) rCorr + Reflect + (no gloves) SustAt . Harm . (no boots) MR +.... u - +3 amulet of reflection Stlth .......... m - ring of resist corrosion l - ring of magical power @: non-regenerating, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, sense surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3 a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Renounce Religion You are on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Pakellas. Pakellas is aware of your devotion. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 12 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer and Ossuary. You have collected 608 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons h - a +1 broad axe (weapon) B - a +0 dire flail Missiles b - 12 tomahawks v - a throwing net (quivered) Armour j - a +0 plate armour (worn) s - a +1 helmet (worn) w - a +1 hat of intelligence Jewellery l - a ring of magical power (left hand) m - a ring of resist corrosion (right hand) p - an uncursed ring of flight u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck) Wands a - a wand of iceblast (7/15) c - a wand of flame (35/48) d - a wand of enslavement (15/24) e - a wand of random effects (15/48) f - a wand of heal wounds (0/9) r - a wand of iceblast (5/15) y - a wand of confusion (13/48) C - a wand of flame (13/48) J - a wand of flame (27/48) V - a wand of iceblast (5/15) X - a wand of polymorph (8/24) Scrolls n - 3 scrolls of teleportation o - 2 scrolls of remove curse F - 4 scrolls of blinking G - 3 scrolls of fear H - 3 scrolls of fog I - 8 scrolls of identify K - 3 scrolls of magic mapping L - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon R - a scroll of amnesia Potions k - 8 potions of curing x - 2 yellow potions A - a bubbling purple potion D - 5 orange potions E - 2 white potions N - 2 fizzy inky potions O - 2 cyan potions P - 2 grey potions S - 2 glowing black potions T - 3 metallic green potions Y - a lumpy white potion Books U - a book of Clouds Spells Type Level a - Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 b - Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 c - Poisonous Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 6 d - Freezing Cloud Conjuration/Ice/Air 6 e - Ring of Flames Charms/Fire 7 W - the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) Spells Type Level a - Summon Butterflies Summoning 1 b - Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 c - Bolt of Fire Conjuration/Fire 6 Miscellaneous Z - a box of beasts Comestibles g - 5 bread rations i - 6 meat rations q - a royal jelly t - 2 beef jerkies z - 13 fruits M - 18 chunks of flesh Q - a slice of pizza Skills: + Level 7.4 Fighting Level 2.0(2.1) Short Blades Level 1.0(1.7) Long Blades * Level 11.6(11.9) Axes + Level 4.3(8.2) Maces & Flails + Level 9.3 Armour + Level 5.7 Dodging + Level 2.3 Stealth + Level 10.4 Evocations You have 10 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (3/6) D:8 Swamp: Lair:2-4 Shoals: Lair:2-4 Snake: Lair:2-4 Spider: Lair:2-4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Annotations: D:3 !sigmund, Sigmund Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. Message History You can now spend your magic to charge your devices. You feel your power returning. Items here: ††††† a yak corpse x4; a hydra corpse Butcher a yak corpse? [(y)es/(c)hoosy/(n)o/(a)ll/(e)dible/(q)uit/?] There isn't anything edible to butcher here. You butcher the yak corpse. x4 M - 4 chunks of flesh; M - 9 chunks of flesh (gained 5); M - 13 chunks of flesh (gained 4); M - 19 chunks of flesh (gained 6) Things that are here: a yak skeleton x2; a hydra corpse Eating one of 19 chunks of flesh. You start eating one of the 19 chunks of flesh. You continue eating. x2 You finish eating. This raw flesh tastes terrible. You see here 13 stones. Found 23 sling bullets. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer. Pakellas says: Progress or perish! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. , , ,,, ,,,, * ,, ,,, , ,,, , , , ,* * * , , * * , * * , * * , * ** , * * # , *, #### # ,***##+.###..# # , .......@.## ### ### ## , * ..........###.###.#####. .........+(...÷......... , , ............######.##### , * .........#### ### # .........# # *, ,.......... # , , (.........* * * #P###.# * *** There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Gastronok (Lair:1) A hydra (Lair:3) 5 spiny frogs 3 blink frogs (Lair:1) A spriggan (Lair:1) 15 yaks A wyvern (D:8) Grum (Lair:1) Edmund (D:4) A hell hound (D:8) 6 water moccasins 5 porcupines An orc warrior (D:8) 5 ogres 4 ice beasts A sky beast (D:7) A black bear (D:6) 3 phantoms 5 wolves 2 centaurs 4 crocodiles 12 giant frogs A big kobold (D:8) A wyvern skeleton (D:7) 2 scorpions (D:4) 6 killer bees (D:8) 3 crimson imps A jelly (D:7) 5 orc wizards A centaur skeleton (D:7) 6 hounds 3 human zombies (Ossuary) 5 orc priests A giant frog skeleton (D:4) 3 iguanas 4 worker ants 3 hound zombies A hound skeleton (D:8) 4 mummies (Ossuary) A worker ant zombie (D:8) 6 gnolls 15 adders 32 river rats 5 shadow imps 2 oozes (D:4) 4 adder zombies 2 worms A dart slug (D:2) 3 giant geckos 20 orcs 6 bats 5 giant cockroaches 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 10 goblins 9 hobgoblins 11 jackals 13 kobolds 4 quokkas 15 ball pythons 8 giant newts A jackal skeleton (D:5) 3 jackal zombies (Ossuary) A kobold zombie (Ossuary) An orc zombie (Ossuary) 2 quokka zombies 26 rats 337 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A fungus (Lair:1) 1 creature vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A fungus (Lair:2) A plant (Lair:2) 2 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 340 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 198 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5 383 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 581 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6 766 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1144 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1144 | D:2 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 1145 | D:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 1221 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1650 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7 1774 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 1885 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8 2134 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2134 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2137 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2543 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2547 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 2560 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2560 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8 3010 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3017 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3305 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Killed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 3322 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9 3471 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Axes 3759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 3922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 3 in Axes 3948 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3969 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4248 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 4355 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10 4472 | D:5 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 4662 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 4955 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 4962 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4969 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4969 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11 5175 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5200 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive 5254 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5309 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5382 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5857 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 6140 | D:7 | Reached * piety under Pakellas 6140 | D:7 | Received a gift from Pakellas 6233 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 6439 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6941 | D:8 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 6941 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13 6999 | D:8 | Reached ** piety under Pakellas 6999 | D:8 | Received a gift from Pakellas 7314 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7347 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7349 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Killed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 7410 | Lair:1 | Noticed Grum 7430 | Lair:1 | Killed Grum 7520 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 7850 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 7863 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 7901 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15 8822 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 8898 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 9422 | Lair:3 | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 9457 | Lair:3 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9482 | Lair:3 | Killed a four-headed hydra Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 | ---------------+----------------------------------+----- Short Blades | 1 2 | 2.0 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 | 7.4 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 | 9.3 Dodging | 3 4 5 | 5.7 Evocations | 5 6 7 9 10 | 10.4 Stealth | 2 | 2.3 Long Blades | 1 | 1.0 Axes | 1 3 5 8 10 11 | 11.6 Maces & Flails | 1 3 4 | 4.3 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 516 | 422 || 1033 Dire flail | | | 45 | 15 || 60 Invok: Quick Charge | | | 1 | 35 || 36 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 | || 2 Evoke Flight | | | 3 | 1 || 4 Stop Flying | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 31 | 47 || 98 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 | 7 || 19 Potion | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Stab: Confused | | 1 | | || 1 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 7 | 9 || 23 Bread ration | | | 2 | || 2 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | | || 142 Plate armour | | 62 | 569 | 331 || 962 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 315 | 248 || 824 Block: Other | | 24 | 109 | 72 || 205 Reflection | | | 1 | || 1

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 21:53 by CypherZel

I know it's not perfectly on topic but if you have never won before: Minotuar + Fighter + Polearms + Trog = win

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 21:54 by Magipi

I often said that the simple strategy of "turn every skill on" is still better than autoskilling, but what you are doing is a bit too weird even for me. You wear plate and train stealth? You use an axe and train Maces (and previously short blades and long blades)? What is going on here?

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 21:55 by Magipi

CypherZel wrote:I know it's not perfectly on topic but if you have never won before: Minotuar + Fighter + Polearms + Trog = win

I don't really get the "fighter" bit in the above sentence.

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 21:57 by CypherZel

Early shield, you don't have to train shields but you get better armour, and a potion of night early

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 21:58 by Magipi

CypherZel wrote:Early shield, you don't have to train shields but you get better armour, and a potion of night early

All those are worth nothing compared to D:1 berserk. What a terrible, terrible idea.

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 22:02 by CypherZel

Magipi wrote:All those are worth nothing compared to D:1 berserk. What a terrible, terrible idea.

I think you are being extreme here, could you explain how this "idea" is terrible? I don't even think it's terrible in comparison let alone on its own

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 22:06 by Magipi

CypherZel wrote:
Magipi wrote:All those are worth nothing compared to D:1 berserk. What a terrible, terrible idea.

I think you are being extreme here, could you explain how this "idea" is terrible? I don't even think it's terrible in comparison let alone on its own

If you want Trog, you start as a berserker, this is entirely obvious. A good god on D:1 is extremely valuable, and a berserker is even better because you start with * piety instead of 0. Giving it up for a shitty shield and a medium mail is so bad that I cannot find the proper words.

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 22:08 by CypherZel

I agree with that, but when I play I don't always go trog, yes if you were definitely choosing trog then just go berserk

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 22:10 by jwoodward48ss

I know that MiBe is the uberwin, but I don't want to be quite that munchkiny.

Any advice? (I went to the Lair, but it got a bit too hard, so I went on to the rest of the dungeon.)

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file. Figem the Cleaver (Deep Dwarf Artificer) Turns: 11976, Time: 00:38:45 Health: 93/110 AC: 9 Str: 16 XL: 12 Next: 29% Magic: 8/27 EV: 15 Int: 13 God: Pakellas [*.....] Gold: 707 SH: 3 Dex: 17 Spells: 0 memorised, 11 levels left rFire + + . SeeInvis . I - +3 battleaxe rCold . . . Gourm . C - +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} rNeg + . . Faith . (shield currently unavailable) rPois . Spirit . s - +1 helmet rElec + Dismiss . (no cloak) rCorr + Reflect + (no gloves) SustAt . Harm . (no boots) MR ..... u - +3 amulet of reflection Stlth ++........ m - ring of resist corrosion l - ring of magical power @: non-regenerating, not resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, sense surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3 a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Renounce Religion You are on level 10 of the Dungeon. You worship Pakellas. Pakellas is aware of your devotion. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer and Ossuary. You have collected 707 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons h - a +1 dire flail of freezing I - a +3 battleaxe (weapon) M - a +1 great sword of slicing Missiles b - 19 tomahawks v - a throwing net (quivered) Armour s - a +1 helmet (worn) w - a +1 hat of intelligence C - the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" (worn) {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. Jewellery l - a ring of magical power (left hand) m - a ring of resist corrosion (right hand) p - an uncursed ring of flight u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck) R - an uncursed amulet of dismissal Wands a - a wand of iceblast (7/15) c - a wand of flame (34/48) d - a wand of enslavement (15/24) e - a wand of random effects (15/48) f - a wand of heal wounds (3/9) r - a wand of iceblast (3/15) y - a wand of confusion (13/48) B - a wand of slowing (27/48) J - a wand of flame (27/48) L - a wand of slowing (22/48) V - a wand of iceblast (5/15) X - a wand of polymorph (8/24) Scrolls n - 4 scrolls of teleportation o - 3 scrolls of remove curse F - 5 scrolls of blinking G - 3 scrolls of fear H - 3 scrolls of fog K - 5 scrolls of magic mapping S - a scroll of identify Potions k - 8 potions of curing x - 2 potions of haste A - a bubbling purple potion D - 4 potions of might E - a potion of magic N - 2 potions of ambrosia O - 2 potions of resistance P - 2 potions of lignification T - 5 potions of flight Y - 2 potions of cancellation Books U - a book of Clouds Spells Type Level a - Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 b - Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 c - Poisonous Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 6 d - Freezing Cloud Conjuration/Ice/Air 6 e - Ring of Flames Charms/Fire 7 W - the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) Spells Type Level a - Summon Butterflies Summoning 1 b - Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 c - Bolt of Fire Conjuration/Fire 6 Miscellaneous Z - a box of beasts Comestibles g - 5 bread rations i - 6 meat rations j - 6 chunks of flesh q - 2 royal jellies t - 2 beef jerkies z - 13 fruits Q - a slice of pizza Skills: + Level 8.1 Fighting Level 2.0(2.2) Short Blades + Level 1.2(1.9) Long Blades * Level 12.7(13.0) Axes + Level 4.5(8.9) Maces & Flails + Level 9.7 Armour + Level 6.4 Dodging + Level 2.7 Stealth + Level 10.7 Evocations You have 11 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (10/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (3/6) D:8 Swamp: Lair:2-4 Shoals: Lair:2-4 Snake: Lair:2-4 Spider: Lair:2-4 Orc: D:9-12 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Trog Uskayaw Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Annotations: D:3 !sigmund, Sigmund Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. Message History You barely miss the giant gecko. The giant gecko is heavily wounded. The giant gecko closely misses you. You slash the giant gecko! You kill the giant gecko! Pakellas accepts your kill. You see here a giant gecko corpse. Done exploring. You see here a giant gecko corpse. You butcher the giant gecko corpse. j - 6 chunks of flesh (gained 2) You see here a giant gecko skeleton. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer. Pakellas says: What solutions will you come up with next? Press ? for a list of commands and other information. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer. Pakellas says: Time to find some more test subjects. Press ? for a list of commands and other information. ### ##### #.### ##...## #### # ##?.# ##.##..## #..### ##.# ###.####..# ###.###. #..# ##..## #..######..## #. ##.## ##..## #........### #. #.## ##..## ##.......## ## .## ##..## ##.......## # ## #..## ##........# # # ##..# ##.@####..## # #..## ##..## #..## # ##..# ##..## #...# # ##...# #..## #...## # #....## #..# #....#### ### ## ##.....# ##.## #)).....###.. .###......## #..### ##.)###....).. ..######...####...###.### #####... ..# ##...# ##......## ##.. .## ##..# #####...# ##.. .## #..# ##..# #..# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Gastronok (Lair:1) A hydra (Lair:3) Erica (D:8) A centaur zombie (D:10) 5 spiny frogs A troll (D:10) 3 blink frogs (Lair:1) A spriggan (Lair:1) 20 yaks A vampire (D:10) 2 wyverns A basilisk (Lair:2) 3 hippogriffs Grum (Lair:1) A hungry ghost (D:10) 4 vampire mosquitoes (D:10) A swamp worm (Lair:3) Edmund (D:4) 2 hell hounds (D:8) 7 water moccasins 5 porcupines 2 orc warriors 6 ogres 5 ice beasts A sky beast (D:7) 2 black bears A necrophage (D:9) 3 phantoms 9 wolves 2 centaurs 6 crocodiles 15 giant frogs A big kobold (D:8) A wyvern skeleton (D:7) 5 scorpions 6 killer bees (D:8) 3 wights (D:8) 3 crimson imps A jelly (D:7) 6 orc wizards A centaur skeleton (D:7) A giant frog zombie (D:10) 8 hounds 3 human zombies (Ossuary) 6 orc priests 2 giant frog skeletons 4 iguanas 5 worker ants 3 hound zombies A hound skeleton (D:8) 4 mummies (Ossuary) 2 worker ant zombies 6 gnolls 15 adders 32 river rats 7 shadow imps 2 oozes (D:4) 4 adder zombies An adder skeleton (D:9) 2 worms A dart slug (D:2) 5 giant geckos 26 orcs 6 bats 5 giant cockroaches 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 10 goblins 9 hobgoblins 11 jackals 13 kobolds 6 quokkas 15 ball pythons 8 giant newts A jackal skeleton (D:5) 3 jackal zombies (Ossuary) A kobold zombie (Ossuary) An orc zombie (Ossuary) 2 quokka zombies 26 rats 401 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A fungus (Lair:1) 1 creature vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A bush (Lair:3) A fungus (Lair:2) A plant (Lair:2) 3 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 405 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 198 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5 383 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 581 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6 766 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1144 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1144 | D:2 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 1145 | D:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 1221 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1650 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7 1774 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 1885 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8 2134 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2134 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2137 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2543 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2547 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 2560 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2560 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8 3010 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3017 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3305 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Killed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 3322 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9 3471 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Axes 3759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 3922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 3 in Axes 3948 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3969 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4248 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 4355 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10 4472 | D:5 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 4662 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 4955 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 4962 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4969 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4969 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11 5175 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5200 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive 5254 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5309 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5382 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5857 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 6140 | D:7 | Reached * piety under Pakellas 6140 | D:7 | Received a gift from Pakellas 6233 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 6439 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6941 | D:8 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 6941 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13 6999 | D:8 | Reached ** piety under Pakellas 6999 | D:8 | Received a gift from Pakellas 7314 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7347 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7349 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Killed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 7410 | Lair:1 | Noticed Grum 7430 | Lair:1 | Killed Grum 7520 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 7850 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 7863 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 7901 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15 8822 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 8898 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 9422 | Lair:3 | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 9457 | Lair:3 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9482 | Lair:3 | Killed a four-headed hydra 9895 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 9904 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted ring mail 9915 | Lair:3 | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 10101 | D:8 | Noticed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Killed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17 10511 | D:9 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 11049 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | ---------------+-------------------------------------+----- Short Blades | 1 2 | 2.0 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | 8.1 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 | 9.7 Dodging | 3 4 5 6 | 6.4 Evocations | 5 6 7 9 10 | 10.7 Stealth | 2 | 2.7 Long Blades | 1 | 1.2 Axes | 1 3 5 8 10 12 | 12.7 Maces & Flails | 1 3 4 | 4.5 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 516 | 425 || 1036 Dire flail | | | 45 | 34 || 79 Battleaxe | | | | 224 || 224 Great sword | | | | 11 || 11 Invok: Quick Charge | | | 1 | 50 || 51 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 | || 2 Evoke Flight | | | 3 | 1 || 4 Stop Flying | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 31 | 67 || 118 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 | 20 || 32 Potion | | | 2 | 3 || 5 Stab: Confused | | 1 | | || 1 Sleeping | | | | 2 || 2 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 7 | 17 || 31 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | | 74 || 216 Plate armour | | 62 | 569 | 381 || 1012 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 315 | 430 || 1006 Block: Other | | 24 | 109 | 115 || 248 Reflection | | | 1 | 1 || 2

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 22:24 by jwoodward48ss

Labyrinth! Awesome!

...forgot to dump stuff outside the door. Not awesome.

Still, I looked at everything there was, and by shoving tons of food into myself, I made it out with everything except a few bits of food, some unnecessary potions (like brilliance), and maybe a no-longer-needed piece of armour? I can't remember.

Anyway, here's the morgue:

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file. Figem the Cleaver (Deep Dwarf Artificer) Turns: 13318, Time: 00:49:39 Health: 95/112 AC: 20 Str: 16 XL: 12 Next: 97% Magic: 25/25 EV: 11 Int: 9 God: Pakellas [......] Gold: 787 SH: 3 Dex: 15 Spells: 5 memorised, 1 level left rFire + . . SeeInvis . a - +3 battleaxe rCold + + . Gourm . j - +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} rNeg . . . Faith . (shield currently unavailable) rPois . Spirit . s - +1 helmet rElec + Dismiss . S - +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (curse) rCorr . Reflect + (no gloves) SustAt . Harm . (no boots) MR +++.. u - +3 amulet of reflection Stlth .......... w - ring of ice l - ring of magical power @: non-regenerating, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, sense surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3 a: Device Recharging, Renounce Religion You are on level 12 of the Dungeon. You worship Pakellas. Pakellas is noncommittal. You are completely stuffed. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 16 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ossuary. You have collected 787 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +3 battleaxe (weapon) h - a +4 spear of piercing m - a +1 dire flail of freezing r - a +1 hand crossbow of freezing M - a +1 great sword of slicing Missiles b - 19 tomahawks v - 2 throwing nets (quivered) Armour j - the +5 chain mail of Leaves (worn) {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your intelligence (-4). It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It makes you more stealthy. q - a +1 plate armour of fire resistance s - a +1 helmet (worn) C - the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. S - the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo (worn) {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your dexterity (-2). It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It increases your rate of regeneration. It has a curse placed upon it. Rods U - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth) W - a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) Jewellery l - a ring of magical power (left hand) p - an uncursed ring of flight u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck) w - a ring of ice (right hand) R - an uncursed amulet of dismissal X - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion Wands c - a wand of flame (33/48) d - a wand of enslavement (15/24) e - a wand of random effects (15/48) f - a wand of heal wounds (5/9) t - a wand of lightning (6/15) y - a wand of confusion (13/48) B - a wand of slowing (27/48) E - a wand of polymorph (11/24) I - a wand of iceblast (8/15) J - a wand of flame (27/48) L - a wand of slowing (22/48) P - a wand of acid (7/15) T - a wand of paralysis (19/24) V - a wand of iceblast (5/15) Scrolls n - 4 scrolls of teleportation o - 5 scrolls of remove curse F - 5 scrolls of blinking G - 3 scrolls of fear H - 4 scrolls of fog K - 5 scrolls of magic mapping Potions k - 6 potions of curing x - 2 potions of haste A - a potion of cure mutation D - 3 potions of might N - 2 potions of ambrosia O - 2 potions of resistance Y - 2 potions of cancellation Books Q - Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth) Spells Type Level a - Shock Conjuration/Air 1 b - Throw Frost Conjuration/Ice 2 c - Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 d - Airstrike Air 4 e - Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summoning 4 f - Poisonous Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 6 Miscellaneous Z - a box of beasts Comestibles g - 6 bread rations i - 6 meat rations z - 13 fruits Skills: + Level 8.8 Fighting Level 2.0(2.2) Short Blades + Level 1.2(1.9) Long Blades * Level 14.0(14.3) Axes + Level 4.5(9.7) Maces & Flails + Level 9.9 Armour + Level 7.5 Dodging + Level 3.0 Stealth + Level 11.1 Evocations You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Shock Conj/Air #... 100% 1 ##..... b - Summon Butterflies Summ #....... 100% 1 ##..... c - Throw Frost Conj/Ice #..... 100% 2 ###.... d - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #....... 100% 3 ####... e - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #....... 100% 3 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (12/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (3/6) D:8 Orc (0/2) D:11 Swamp: Lair:2-4 Shoals: Lair:2-4 Snake: Lair:2-4 Spider: Lair:2-4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Trog Uskayaw Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Annotations: D:3 !sigmund, Sigmund Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. Message History Mmm... Chicken. Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit) a - a +3 battleaxe (weapon) Drop what? 52/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Okay, then. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Drop what? 52/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Unknown command. Welcome back to the Dungeon! x2 There is an empty arch of ancient stone here. You see here an arrow. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer. Pakellas says: Ready to try out some more devices? Press ? for a list of commands and other information. * *,* * , , ,, * * * * , * ,, ** * * #.# * * , *, *, #.# *, , * #. **#.# ,, ##.####.### * , ,, * ..........# * .......<...#####, * * * ,...............# * , ........@.n# *, , , * ......$....# , , , .........#### *, ,, , ............# , , #####.......# , , ##......### * , , #(........ , , ##(#...### .,, #(#....## * ... #####)####..# .... #...))#####.###...# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Gastronok (Lair:1) A minotaur (Lab) A hydra (Lair:3) A centaur warrior (D:12) Erica (D:8) An unseen horror (D:11) A hill giant (D:12) A deep elf mage (D:12) 3 manticores An ugly thing (D:10) A centaur zombie (D:10) 5 spiny frogs 2 gargoyles (D:11) A troll (D:10) 3 blink frogs (Lair:1) A spriggan (Lair:1) A shadow (D:11) 29 yaks A vampire (D:10) 2 wyverns A basilisk (Lair:2) 3 hippogriffs Grum (Lair:1) A hungry ghost (D:10) 4 vampire mosquitoes (D:10) 4 wargs (D:11) A swamp worm (Lair:3) Edmund (D:4) 2 hell hounds (D:8) 7 water moccasins 5 porcupines 2 orc warriors 7 ogres 6 ice beasts A sky beast (D:7) 2 black bears A necrophage (D:9) 3 phantoms 9 wolves 5 centaurs 6 crocodiles 15 giant frogs A big kobold (D:8) A wyvern skeleton (D:7) 5 scorpions 6 killer bees (D:8) 3 wights (D:8) 5 crimson imps A jelly (D:7) 7 orc wizards 2 centaur skeletons 2 giant frog zombies 10 hounds 3 human zombies (Ossuary) 6 orc priests 3 giant frog skeletons 5 iguanas 6 worker ants 3 hound zombies A hound skeleton (D:8) 4 mummies (Ossuary) 2 worker ant zombies 6 gnolls 15 adders 32 river rats 7 shadow imps 2 oozes (D:4) 4 adder zombies An adder skeleton (D:9) 2 worms A dart slug (D:2) 5 giant geckos 29 orcs 6 bats 5 giant cockroaches 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 10 goblins 9 hobgoblins 11 jackals 13 kobolds 6 quokkas 15 ball pythons 8 giant newts A jackal skeleton (D:5) 3 jackal zombies (Ossuary) A kobold zombie (Ossuary) An orc zombie (Ossuary) 2 quokka zombies 26 rats 444 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A fungus (Lair:1) 1 creature vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A bush (Lair:3) A fungus (Lair:2) A plant (Lair:2) 3 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 448 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 198 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5 383 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 581 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6 766 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1144 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1144 | D:2 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 1145 | D:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 1221 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1650 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7 1774 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 1885 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8 2134 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2134 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2137 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2543 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2547 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 2560 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2560 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8 3010 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3017 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3305 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Killed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 3322 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9 3471 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Axes 3759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 3922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 3 in Axes 3948 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3969 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4248 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 4355 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10 4472 | D:5 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 4662 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 4955 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 4962 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4969 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4969 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11 5175 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5200 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive 5254 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5309 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5382 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5857 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 6140 | D:7 | Reached * piety under Pakellas 6140 | D:7 | Received a gift from Pakellas 6233 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 6439 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6941 | D:8 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 6941 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13 6999 | D:8 | Reached ** piety under Pakellas 6999 | D:8 | Received a gift from Pakellas 7314 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7347 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7349 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Killed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 7410 | Lair:1 | Noticed Grum 7430 | Lair:1 | Killed Grum 7520 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 7850 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 7863 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 7901 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15 8822 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 8898 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 9422 | Lair:3 | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 9457 | Lair:3 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9482 | Lair:3 | Killed a four-headed hydra 9895 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 9904 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted ring mail 9915 | Lair:3 | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 10101 | D:8 | Noticed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Killed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17 10511 | D:9 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 11049 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12321 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12372 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 12968 | D:12 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 12969 | D:12 | Noticed a centaur warrior 12983 | D:12 | Killed a centaur warrior 13013 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 13216 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 13237 | Lab | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13252 | Lab | Got a fine chain mail 13259 | Lab | Identified Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth) 13266 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock 13268 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 13271 | Lab | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost 13275 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 13279 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 13291 | Lab | Identified the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | ---------------+-------------------------------------+----- Short Blades | 1 2 | 2.0 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | 8.8 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 | 9.9 Dodging | 3 4 5 7 | 7.5 Evocations | 5 6 7 9 10 11 | 11.1 Stealth | 2 3 | 3.0 Long Blades | 1 | 1.2 Axes | 1 3 5 8 10 12 14 | 14.0 Maces & Flails | 1 3 4 | 4.5 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 516 | 425 || 1036 Dire flail | | | 45 | 34 || 79 Battleaxe | | | | 417 || 417 Great sword | | | | 11 || 11 Throw: Throwing net | | | | 1 || 1 Invok: Quick Charge | | | 1 | 64 || 65 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 | 2 || 4 Evoke Flight | | | 3 | 1 || 4 Stop Flying | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 31 | 95 || 146 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 | 25 || 37 Potion | | | 2 | 7 || 9 Stab: Confused | | 1 | | || 1 Sleeping | | | | 3 || 3 Distracted | | | | 1 || 1 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 7 | 19 || 33 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Beef jerky | | | | 3 || 3 Royal jelly | | | | 2 || 2 Pizza | | | | 1 || 1 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | | 141 || 283 Plate armour | | 62 | 569 | 381 || 1012 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 315 | 558 || 1134 Block: Other | | 24 | 109 | 147 || 280 Reflection | | | 1 | 3 || 4

Which weapon is best for me right now? I'm guessing the battleaxe.

Where should I go now? I'm thinking Orc:1 first. Don't suggest Lair unless you think this char can deal with swarms of elephants.

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 22:36 by jwoodward48ss

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

D:13 has a bunch of awful undead and demons. Including a death knight.
D:14 has RUPERT.
Lair has elephants galore. Stairdancing does not work. They push me off.
Orc only has one level of "okay", and then one level of "oh god the demons aaaa".

Where the hell am I supposed to go now?! WHERE, CRAWL? HUH?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file. Figem the Severer (Deep Dwarf Artificer) Turns: 14773, Time: 00:57:43 Health: 105/121 AC: 20 Str: 16 XL: 13 Next: 51% Magic: 7/26 EV: 11 Int: 9 God: Pakellas [*.....] Gold: 924 SH: 3 Dex: 15 Spells: 5 memorised, 2 levels left rFire + + . SeeInvis . a - +3 battleaxe rCold + . . Gourm . j - +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} rNeg . . . Faith . (shield currently unavailable) rPois . Spirit . s - +1 helmet rElec + Dismiss . S - +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} rCorr . Reflect + (no gloves) SustAt . Harm . (no boots) MR +++.. u - +3 amulet of reflection Stlth .......... p - ring of flight l - ring of magical power @: non-regenerating, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, sense surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3 a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight You are on level 13 of the Dungeon. You worship Pakellas. Pakellas is aware of your devotion. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 18 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ossuary. You have collected 924 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +3 battleaxe (weapon) h - a +4 spear of piercing m - a +1 dire flail of freezing r - a +1 hand crossbow of freezing M - a +1 great sword of slicing Missiles b - 23 tomahawks v - 2 throwing nets (quivered) Armour j - the +5 chain mail of Leaves (worn) {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your intelligence (-4). It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It makes you more stealthy. q - a +1 plate armour of fire resistance s - a +1 helmet (worn) C - the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. S - the +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo (worn) {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your dexterity (-2). It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It increases your rate of regeneration. Rods U - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth) W - a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) Jewellery l - a ring of magical power (left hand) p - a ring of flight (right hand) u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck) w - an uncursed ring of ice R - an uncursed amulet of dismissal X - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion Wands c - a wand of flame (33/48) d - a wand of enslavement (15/24) e - a wand of random effects (15/48) f - a wand of heal wounds (0/9) t - a wand of lightning (4/15) y - a wand of confusion (13/48) B - a wand of slowing (27/48) E - a wand of polymorph (11/24) I - a wand of iceblast (8/15) J - a wand of flame (27/48) L - a wand of lightning (3/15) P - a wand of acid (7/15) T - a wand of paralysis (19/24) V - a wand of iceblast (5/15) Scrolls n - 3 scrolls of teleportation o - 4 scrolls of remove curse F - 5 scrolls of blinking G - 3 scrolls of fear H - 5 scrolls of fog K - 5 scrolls of magic mapping Potions k - 6 potions of curing x - 3 potions of haste D - 2 potions of might O - 2 potions of resistance Y - 2 potions of cancellation Miscellaneous N - a disc of storms Z - a box of beasts Comestibles g - 6 bread rations i - 6 meat rations z - 13 fruits A - a beef jerky Q - 6 chunks of flesh Skills: + Level 9.3 Fighting Level 2.0(2.2) Short Blades + Level 1.2(1.9) Long Blades * Level 15.0(15.3) Axes + Level 4.7(10.4) Maces & Flails + Level 10.5 Armour + Level 7.9 Dodging + Level 3.0 Stealth + Level 11.5 Evocations You have 2 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Shock Conj/Air #... 100% 1 ##..... b - Summon Butterflies Summ #....... 100% 1 ##..... c - Throw Frost Conj/Ice #..... 100% 2 ###.... d - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #....... 100% 3 ####... e - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #....... 100% 3 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (14/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (3/6) D:8 Orc (0/2) D:11 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Swamp: Lair:2-4 Shoals: Lair:2-4 Snake: Lair:2-4 Spider: Lair:2-4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Trog Uskayaw Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Annotations: D:3 !sigmund, Sigmund D:14 Rupert Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. Message History Q - 6 chunks of flesh (gained 1) There is an open door here. Rupert yells loudly at you. You resist with almost no effort. Rupert yells loudly at you. You resist with almost no effort. Things that are here: an uncursed longbow; 29 arrows; a centaur skeleton Rupert roars wildly at you. You resist with almost no effort. Items here: ))) [[[ a long sword; a chain mail; a long sword; a chain mail; a war axe; a chain mail Press: ? - help, v - describe, . - travel Here: Rupert, wielding a triple sword of slicing and wearing a ring mail The floor. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. Char dumped to 'morgue/Figem.txt'. Save game and exit? ## ### #.# ##.# ### #..## #..# #####.# #...#####.# ##.##.## #....##.#.## ##@...## * #...#.##..###.....## * , # #...#.#......###...# * * ####...........## ##..## # * * ##.............#####...##.##*,, , ...........................#. ,, .........#...#............... .......<....................., ,, ............................. , , .....#..............>........ ...###....................... , There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Gastronok (Lair:1) A minotaur (Lab) 3 hydras 3 vault guards (D:14) 2 centaur warriors Erica (D:8) An unseen horror (D:11) 3 hill giants (D:12) A phantasmal warrior (D:13) A deep elf mage (D:12) 3 manticores 3 ugly things A centaur zombie (D:10) 5 spiny frogs 3 gargoyles A freezing wraith (D:13) 2 trolls 3 blink frogs (Lair:1) A spriggan (Lair:1) A shadow (D:11) 29 yaks A vampire (D:10) 2 wyverns 2 basilisks 6 hippogriffs Grum (Lair:1) 2 hungry ghosts A mottled dragon (D:14) 4 vampire mosquitoes (D:10) 4 wargs (D:11) A swamp worm (Lair:3) Edmund (D:4) 2 hell hounds (D:8) 7 water moccasins 5 porcupines 3 orc warriors 7 ogres 7 ice beasts A sky beast (D:7) 2 black bears An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13) 2 necrophages 4 phantoms 9 wolves 5 centaurs 6 crocodiles 17 giant frogs A big kobold (D:8) A wyvern zombie (D:12) A wyvern skeleton (D:7) 5 scorpions 6 killer bees (D:8) 3 wights (D:8) 5 crimson imps A wasp zombie (D:12) A jelly (D:7) 8 orc wizards 6 centaur skeletons 2 giant frog zombies 10 hounds 3 human zombies (Ossuary) 6 orc priests 3 giant frog skeletons 6 iguanas 7 worker ants 3 hound zombies A hound skeleton (D:8) 4 mummies (Ossuary) 2 worker ant zombies 6 gnolls 16 adders 32 river rats 7 shadow imps 2 oozes (D:4) 4 adder zombies An adder skeleton (D:9) 2 worms A dart slug (D:2) 5 giant geckos 38 orcs 6 bats 5 giant cockroaches 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 10 goblins 9 hobgoblins 11 jackals 13 kobolds 6 quokkas 15 ball pythons 8 giant newts A jackal skeleton (D:5) 3 jackal zombies (Ossuary) A kobold zombie (Ossuary) An orc zombie (Ossuary) 2 quokka zombies 26 rats A fungus (D:13) 491 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A centaur zombie (D:12) An eye of draining (D:12) A fungus (Lair:1) 3 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A bush (Lair:3) A fungus (Lair:2) A plant (Lair:2) 3 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 497 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 198 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5 383 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 581 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6 766 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1144 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1144 | D:2 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 1145 | D:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 1221 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1650 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7 1774 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 1885 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8 2134 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2134 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2137 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2543 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2547 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 2560 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2560 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8 3010 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3017 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3305 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Killed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 3322 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9 3471 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Axes 3759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 3922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 3 in Axes 3948 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3969 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4248 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 4355 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10 4472 | D:5 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 4662 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 4955 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 4962 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4969 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4969 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11 5175 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5200 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive 5254 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5309 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5382 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5857 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 6140 | D:7 | Reached * piety under Pakellas 6140 | D:7 | Received a gift from Pakellas 6233 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 6439 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6941 | D:8 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 6941 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13 6999 | D:8 | Reached ** piety under Pakellas 6999 | D:8 | Received a gift from Pakellas 7314 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7347 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7349 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Killed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 7410 | Lair:1 | Noticed Grum 7430 | Lair:1 | Killed Grum 7520 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 7850 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 7863 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 7901 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15 8822 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 8898 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 9422 | Lair:3 | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 9457 | Lair:3 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9482 | Lair:3 | Killed a four-headed hydra 9895 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 9904 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted ring mail 9915 | Lair:3 | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 10101 | D:8 | Noticed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Killed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17 10511 | D:9 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 11049 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12321 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12372 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 12968 | D:12 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 12969 | D:12 | Noticed a centaur warrior 12983 | D:12 | Killed a centaur warrior 13013 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 13216 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 13237 | Lab | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13252 | Lab | Got a fine chain mail 13259 | Lab | Identified Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth) 13266 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock 13268 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 13271 | Lab | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost 13275 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 13279 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 13291 | Lab | Identified the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13448 | D:12 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/120 MP: 17/17 13495 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 13591 | D:12 | Identified a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) 14589 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 14689 | D:14 | Reached skill level 15 in Axes 14740 | D:14 | Noticed Rupert Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | ---------------+----------------------------------------+----- Short Blades | 1 2 | 2.0 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 | 9.3 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.5 Dodging | 3 4 5 7 | 7.9 Evocations | 5 6 7 9 10 11 | 11.5 Stealth | 2 3 | 3.0 Long Blades | 1 | 1.2 Axes | 1 3 5 8 10 12 14 15 | 15.0 Maces & Flails | 1 3 4 | 4.7 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | | | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | | | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 516 | 425 | || 1036 Dire flail | | | 45 | 34 | 22 || 101 Battleaxe | | | | 455 | 202 || 657 Great sword | | | | 11 | || 11 Throw: Throwing net | | | | 1 | || 1 Tomahawk | | | | | 1 || 1 Invok: Quick Charge | | | 1 | 64 | 8 || 73 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 | 2 | || 4 Evoke Flight | | | 3 | 1 | || 4 Stop Flying | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 31 | 95 | 20 || 166 Rod | | | | | 3 || 3 Disc of storms | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 | 26 | 2 || 40 Potion | | | 2 | 7 | 1 || 10 Stab: Confused | | 1 | | | || 1 Sleeping | | | | 3 | || 3 Distracted | | | | 1 | || 1 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 7 | 19 | 8 || 41 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 | || 3 Beef jerky | | | | 3 | || 3 Royal jelly | | | | 2 | || 2 Pizza | | | | 1 | || 1 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | | 141 | || 283 Plate armour | | 62 | 569 | 381 | || 1012 Chain mail | | | | 23 | 172 || 195 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 315 | 569 | 148 || 1293 Block: Other | | 24 | 109 | 150 | 35 || 318 Reflection | | | 1 | 3 | 2 || 6

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 23:20 by ZoFy

Lair for sure. Your rod of inaccuracy should do wonders on those elephants. You also have blinking, fear and haste in case things go south.
And, as it was said before, don't train stealth on a plate mail-wearing dude. You don't need to train M&F either: hydrae can be shot down with inaccuracy, iceblast and acid.

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 23:35 by jwoodward48ss

Thanks! I've killed the elephants and am moving on through Lair.
Also, I currently am training Fighting (9.1, 24%), Axes (15.7, 32%), Armour (10.7, 23%), Dodging (8.0, 4%), and Evocations (11.8, 20%). Is this good? Should I disable/focus on anything?
Also, with Str/Int/Dex of 16/9/15, what should I choose for my stat-ups?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file. Figem the Severer (Deep Dwarf Artificer) Turns: 15863, Time: 01:00:55 Health: 102/121 AC: 20 Str: 16 XL: 13 Next: 69% Magic: 0/26 EV: 11 Int: 9 God: Pakellas [*.....] Gold: 924 SH: 3 Dex: 15 Spells: 5 memorised, 2 levels left rFire + + . SeeInvis . a - +3 battleaxe rCold + . . Gourm . j - +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} rNeg . . . Faith . (shield currently unavailable) rPois . Spirit . s - +1 helmet rElec + Dismiss . S - +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} rCorr . Reflect + (no gloves) SustAt . Harm . (no boots) MR +++.. u - +3 amulet of reflection Stlth .......... p - ring of flight l - ring of magical power @: non-regenerating, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, sense surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3 a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight You are on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Pakellas. Pakellas is aware of your devotion. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 19 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ossuary. You have collected 924 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +3 battleaxe (weapon) m - a +1 dire flail of freezing r - a +1 hand crossbow of freezing M - a +1 great sword of slicing Missiles b - 23 tomahawks v - 2 throwing nets (quivered) Armour j - the +5 chain mail of Leaves (worn) {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your intelligence (-4). It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It makes you more stealthy. q - a +1 plate armour of fire resistance s - a +1 helmet (worn) C - the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. S - the +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo (worn) {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your dexterity (-2). It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It increases your rate of regeneration. Rods U - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth) W - a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) Jewellery l - a ring of magical power (left hand) p - a ring of flight (right hand) u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck) w - an uncursed ring of ice R - an uncursed amulet of dismissal X - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion Wands c - a wand of flame (33/48) d - a wand of enslavement (15/24) e - a wand of random effects (15/48) f - a wand of heal wounds (4/9) t - a wand of lightning (4/15) y - a wand of confusion (13/48) B - a wand of slowing (27/48) E - a wand of polymorph (11/24) I - a wand of iceblast (8/15) J - a wand of flame (27/48) P - a wand of acid (7/15) Q - a wand of lightning (4/15) T - a wand of paralysis (19/24) V - a wand of iceblast (5/15) Scrolls n - 3 scrolls of teleportation o - 4 scrolls of remove curse F - 5 scrolls of blinking G - 3 scrolls of fear H - 5 scrolls of fog K - 5 scrolls of magic mapping Potions h - an inky potion k - 6 potions of curing x - 3 potions of haste D - 2 potions of might O - 2 potions of resistance Y - 3 potions of cancellation Miscellaneous N - a disc of storms Z - a box of beasts {god gift} Comestibles g - 6 bread rations i - 6 meat rations z - 13 fruits A - a beef jerky L - 15 chunks of flesh Skills: + Level 9.4 Fighting Level 2.0(2.2) Short Blades + Level 1.2(1.9) Long Blades * Level 15.4(15.7) Axes + Level 4.7(10.6) Maces & Flails + Level 10.7 Armour + Level 8.0 Dodging + Level 3.0 Stealth + Level 11.8 Evocations You have 2 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Shock Conj/Air #... 100% 1 ##..... b - Summon Butterflies Summ #....... 100% 1 ##..... c - Throw Frost Conj/Ice #..... 100% 2 ###.... d - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #....... 100% 3 ####... e - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #....... 100% 3 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (14/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (4/6) D:8 Swamp (0/4) Lair:3 Orc (0/2) D:11 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Snake: Lair:2-4 Spider: Lair:2-4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Trog Uskayaw Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Annotations: D:3 !sigmund, Sigmund D:14 Rupert Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. Message History Pakellas accepts yer kill. Nay target in view! Ye see 'ere 3 large rocks. Ye see 'ere a spear. Thar be a stone staircase leadin' up, spatt'red wit' blood 'ere. Done 'splorin'. Nay target in view! Done 'splorin'. Done 'splorin'. Move tha cursor ta view tha level map, or type ? fer a list o' commands. Returnin' ta tha game... Some o' tha chunks o' flesh in yer inventory haf rotted away. Thar be an op'n door 'ere. Thar be an op'n door 'ere. Thar be a stone staircase leadin' down 'ere. Save game an' 'sit? Welcome back, Figem tha Deep Dwarf Artificer. Pakellas says: 'tis be producin' some very interestin' results. Press ? fer a list o' commands an' othar information. Ye haf 924 gold pieces. #...... ######. ## #### #####.#P ### ##....... ###.####..+..... #####..#..@...#..... .##...#..#P.##...... P.......######...... ......### #...... ......# ##..... .#...## ##..#+ .....# ###.. ....## ##.# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Gastronok (Lair:1) A minotaur (Lab) 3 hydras 3 vault guards (D:14) 2 centaur warriors Erica (D:8) An unseen horror (D:11) 3 hill giants (D:12) A phantasmal warrior (D:13) A deep elf mage (D:12) 3 manticores 3 ugly things A centaur zombie (D:10) 3 elephants (Lair:3) 6 spiny frogs 3 gargoyles A freezing wraith (D:13) 2 trolls 8 blink frogs A spriggan (Lair:1) A shadow (D:11) 29 yaks A vampire (D:10) 2 wyverns 2 basilisks 7 hippogriffs Grum (Lair:1) 2 hungry ghosts A mottled dragon (D:14) 4 vampire mosquitoes (D:10) 4 wargs (D:11) 6 swamp worms (Lair:3) Edmund (D:4) 2 hell hounds (D:8) 7 water moccasins 5 porcupines 3 orc warriors 7 ogres 7 ice beasts A sky beast (D:7) 2 black bears An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13) 2 necrophages 4 phantoms 9 wolves 5 centaurs 7 crocodiles 17 giant frogs A big kobold (D:8) A wyvern zombie (D:12) A wyvern skeleton (D:7) 5 scorpions 6 killer bees (D:8) 3 wights (D:8) An electric eel (Lair:3) 5 crimson imps A wasp zombie (D:12) A jelly (D:7) 8 orc wizards 6 centaur skeletons 2 giant frog zombies 10 hounds 3 human zombies (Ossuary) 6 orc priests 3 giant frog skeletons 6 iguanas 7 worker ants 7 sheep (Lair:4) 3 hound zombies A hound skeleton (D:8) 4 mummies (Ossuary) 2 worker ant zombies 6 gnolls 16 adders 32 river rats 7 shadow imps 2 oozes (D:4) 4 adder zombies An adder skeleton (D:9) 2 worms A dart slug (D:2) 5 giant geckos 38 orcs 6 bats 5 giant cockroaches 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 10 goblins 9 hobgoblins 11 jackals 13 kobolds 6 quokkas 15 ball pythons 8 giant newts A jackal skeleton (D:5) 3 jackal zombies (Ossuary) A kobold zombie (Ossuary) An orc zombie (Ossuary) 2 quokka zombies 26 rats 3 fungi 517 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A centaur zombie (D:12) An eye of draining (D:12) A fungus (Lair:1) 3 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A bush (Lair:3) 4 fungi A plant (Lair:2) 6 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 526 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 198 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5 383 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 581 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6 766 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1144 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1144 | D:2 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 1145 | D:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 1221 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1650 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7 1774 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 1885 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8 2134 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2134 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2137 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2543 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2547 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 2560 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2560 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8 3010 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3017 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3305 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Killed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 3322 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9 3471 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Axes 3759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 3922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 3 in Axes 3948 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3969 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4248 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 4355 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10 4472 | D:5 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 4662 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 4955 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 4962 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4969 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4969 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11 5175 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5200 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive 5254 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5309 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5382 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5857 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 6140 | D:7 | Reached * piety under Pakellas 6140 | D:7 | Received a gift from Pakellas 6233 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 6439 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6941 | D:8 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 6941 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13 6999 | D:8 | Reached ** piety under Pakellas 6999 | D:8 | Received a gift from Pakellas 7314 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7347 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7349 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Killed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 7410 | Lair:1 | Noticed Grum 7430 | Lair:1 | Killed Grum 7520 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 7850 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 7863 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 7901 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15 8822 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 8898 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 9422 | Lair:3 | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 9457 | Lair:3 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9482 | Lair:3 | Killed a four-headed hydra 9895 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 9904 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted ring mail 9915 | Lair:3 | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 10101 | D:8 | Noticed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Killed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17 10511 | D:9 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 11049 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12321 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12372 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 12968 | D:12 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 12969 | D:12 | Noticed a centaur warrior 12983 | D:12 | Killed a centaur warrior 13013 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 13216 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 13237 | Lab | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13252 | Lab | Got a fine chain mail 13259 | Lab | Identified Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth) 13266 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock 13268 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 13271 | Lab | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost 13275 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 13279 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 13291 | Lab | Identified the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13448 | D:12 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/120 MP: 17/17 13495 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 13591 | D:12 | Identified a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) 14589 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 14689 | D:14 | Reached skill level 15 in Axes 14740 | D:14 | Noticed Rupert 15043 | Lair:3 | Identified a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth) 15750 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | ---------------+----------------------------------------+----- Short Blades | 1 2 | 2.0 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 | 9.4 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.7 Dodging | 3 4 5 7 8 | 8.0 Evocations | 5 6 7 9 10 11 | 11.8 Stealth | 2 3 | 3.0 Long Blades | 1 | 1.2 Axes | 1 3 5 8 10 12 14 15 | 15.4 Maces & Flails | 1 3 4 | 4.7 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | | | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | | | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 516 | 425 | || 1036 Dire flail | | | 45 | 34 | 22 || 101 Battleaxe | | | | 455 | 279 || 734 Great sword | | | | 11 | || 11 Throw: Throwing net | | | | 1 | || 1 Tomahawk | | | | | 1 || 1 Invok: Quick Charge | | | 1 | 64 | 16 || 81 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 | 2 | || 4 Evoke Flight | | | 3 | 1 | || 4 Stop Flying | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 31 | 95 | 24 || 170 Rod | | | | | 13 || 13 Disc of storms | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 | 26 | 2 || 40 Potion | | | 2 | 7 | 1 || 10 Stab: Confused | | 1 | | | || 1 Sleeping | | | | 3 | || 3 Distracted | | | | 1 | || 1 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 7 | 19 | 12 || 45 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 | || 3 Beef jerky | | | | 3 | || 3 Royal jelly | | | | 2 | || 2 Pizza | | | | 1 | || 1 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | | 141 | || 283 Plate armour | | 62 | 569 | 381 | || 1012 Chain mail | | | | 23 | 202 || 225 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 315 | 569 | 187 || 1332 Block: Other | | 24 | 109 | 150 | 45 || 328 Reflection | | | 1 | 3 | 2 || 6

Also, what does this table mean?

Code:: Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | | | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | | | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 516 | 425 | || 1036 Dire flail | | | 45 | 34 | 22 || 101 Battleaxe | | | | 455 | 279 || 734 Great sword | | | | 11 | || 11 Throw: Throwing net | | | | 1 | || 1 Tomahawk | | | | | 1 || 1 Invok: Quick Charge | | | 1 | 64 | 16 || 81 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 | 2 | || 4 Evoke Flight | | | 3 | 1 | || 4 Stop Flying | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 31 | 95 | 24 || 170 Rod | | | | | 13 || 13 Disc of storms | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 | 26 | 2 || 40 Potion | | | 2 | 7 | 1 || 10 Stab: Confused | | 1 | | | || 1 Sleeping | | | | 3 | || 3 Distracted | | | | 1 | || 1 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 7 | 19 | 12 || 45 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 | || 3 Beef jerky | | | | 3 | || 3 Royal jelly | | | | 2 | || 2 Pizza | | | | 1 | || 1 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | | 141 | || 283 Plate armour | | 62 | 569 | 381 | || 1012 Chain mail | | | | 23 | 202 || 225 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 315 | 569 | 187 || 1332 Block: Other | | 24 | 109 | 150 | 45 || 328 Reflection | | | 1 | 3 | 2 || 6

Tuesday, 19th July 2016, 23:42 by jwoodward48ss

YAY AN ACQUIREMENT SCROLL

WHAT TO ACQUIRE?

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 00:10 by CypherZel

If you have never won the game before it literally makes no sense to not play an easy race to beat the game a few times, once you beat the game you will gain skills to continue doing so. Of course you can play what you want but at the end of the day you want to win

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 00:26 by Sar

CypherZel wrote:it literally makes no sense to not play an easy race to beat the game a few times

well he is playing a DD

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 00:29 by CypherZel

Artificer?

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 00:47 by Reptisaurus

CypherZel wrote:Artificer?

Is straight up the best background for the first few levels - you basically don't have to take any damage from any monster you can see coming.

And this combos well with Pakellas, who gives you infinite charges in your wand of heal wounds.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 00:49 by CypherZel

Reptisaurus wrote:
CypherZel wrote:Artificer?

Is straight up the best background for the first few levels - you basically don't have to take any damage from any monster you can see coming.

And this combos well with Pakellas, who gives you infinite charges in your wand of heal wounds.

Didn't know this, might try it out

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 01:17 by jwoodward48ss

So, Cypher, what would you recommend for a first win?

And I still don't know what to acquire.

Edit: Nvm, found some help from a week ago. Got a wand of hasting! YAY!

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 01:33 by jwoodward48ss

Killed Nessos via heavy application of Rod of Shadows. Yay allies! Centaur warrior killed him in two shots. Yay ranged!

Edit: Worried about vampire bats? No problem! Just summon a pack of boggarts and let all your troubles DISAPPEAR!

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 01:47 by jwoodward48ss

I've almost cleared Lair. I've got the green elephant statue thingies. I'm thinking I probably shouldn't go in, right? The main point of Lair is for XP, not some stash of loot which may or may not exist at the bottom.

So, where to? Orc:1?

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 01:57 by jwoodward48ss

I'm clearing Orc:2, but then... an orcish warlord...

I'm not sure I can handle this.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file. Figem the Severer (Deep Dwarf Artificer) Turns: 20729, Time: 01:26:08 Health: 108/132 AC: 24 Str: 16 XL: 14 Next: 43% Magic: 6/28 EV: 10 Int: 13 God: Pakellas [***...] Gold: 1460 SH: 3 Dex: 21 Spells: 5 memorised, 3 levels left rFire + + + SeeInvis . a - +4 battleaxe rCold . . . Gourm . m - +4 plate armour {rF+} rNeg + . . Faith . (shield currently unavailable) rPois . Spirit . s - +2 helmet rElec + Dismiss . S - +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} rCorr . Reflect + (no gloves) SustAt . Harm . (no boots) MR ++... u - +3 amulet of reflection Stlth .......... q - +6 ring of dexterity l - ring of magical power @: non-regenerating, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, negative energy resistance 1, sense surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3 a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Device Surge, Renounce Religion You are on level 2 of the Orcish Mines. You worship Pakellas. Pakellas is most pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ossuary. You have collected 1460 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +4 battleaxe (weapon) r - a +1 hand crossbow of freezing V - a +0 great mace Missiles b - 23 tomahawks v - a throwing net (quivered) Armour j - the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your intelligence (-4). It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It makes you more stealthy. m - a +4 plate armour of fire resistance (worn) s - a +2 helmet (worn) C - the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. S - the +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo (worn) {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your dexterity (-2). It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It increases your rate of regeneration. Rods U - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth) W - a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) Jewellery l - a ring of magical power (left hand) p - an uncursed ring of flight q - a +6 ring of dexterity (right hand) u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck) w - an uncursed ring of ice A - an uncursed amulet of rage R - an uncursed amulet of dismissal X - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion Wands c - a wand of flame (46/48) d - a wand of enslavement (15/24) e - a wand of random effects (14/48) f - a wand of heal wounds (1/9) t - a wand of paralysis (19/24) {god gift} y - a wand of confusion (13/48) B - a wand of slowing (27/48) E - a wand of polymorph (11/24) I - a wand of iceblast (8/15) L - a wand of slowing (21/48) M - a wand of hasting (4/9) P - a wand of acid (7/15) Q - a wand of lightning (4/15) T - a wand of paralysis (19/24) Scrolls n - 5 scrolls of teleportation o - 6 scrolls of remove curse F - 5 scrolls of blinking G - 5 scrolls of fear H - 5 scrolls of fog K - 5 scrolls of magic mapping Z - 3 scrolls of identify Potions h - a potion of berserk rage k - 6 potions of curing x - 3 potions of haste D - 3 potions of might O - 2 potions of resistance Y - 3 potions of cancellation Miscellaneous N - a disc of storms Comestibles g - 7 bread rations i - 7 meat rations z - 19 fruits J - 17 chunks of flesh Skills: + Level 10.3 Fighting Level 2.0(2.2) Short Blades Level 1.2(1.9) Long Blades + Level 16.1(16.5) Axes + Level 5.4(11.3) Maces & Flails + Level 11.6 Armour + Level 8.5 Dodging - Level 3.0 Stealth + Level 12.6 Evocations You have 3 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Shock Conj/Air #... 100% 1 ##..... b - Summon Butterflies Summ #....... 100% 1 ##..... c - Throw Frost Conj/Ice #..... 100% 2 ###.... d - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #....... 100% 3 ####... e - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #....... 100% 3 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (14/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (6/6) D:8 Swamp (0/4) Lair:3 Spider (0/4) Lair:4 Slime (0/5) Lair:6 Orc (2/2) D:11 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Elf: Orc:2 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Trog Uskayaw Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Shops: D:13 = Annotations: D:3 !sigmund, Sigmund D:14 Rupert Lair:6 exclusion: 3 doors Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You resist negative energy. (rN+) You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. Message History Thin's tha be 'ere: a hand axe o' electrocution; a mace; a scale mail Some o' tha chunks o' flesh in yer inventory haf rotted away. Thin's tha be 'ere: a hand axe o' electrocution; a mace; a scale mail Thar be an op'n door 'ere. Thar be an op'n door, spatt'red wit' blood 'ere. Thin's tha be 'ere: a long sword; a chain mail Thin's tha be 'ere: a halberd; a chain mail g - 7 bread rations (gain'd 1) Thar be an op'n door, spatt'red wit' blood 'ere. Thin's tha be 'ere: a long sword; a chain mail As ye op'n tha door, it creaks loudly! Ye hear a shout! An orc warlord comes inta view. It be wieldin' a battleaxe o' venom. Press: ? - help, v - describe, . - travel 'ere: an orc warlord, wieldin' a battleaxe o' venom an' wearin' a chain mail An op'n door. ,..# * # ### #.# , .#* #˜## , #.##+###. ˜˜P## #....#.. ˜...######....#.#* ˜..#.##..#....#.# ,, #..####..o......# , ?...## #@####[#### .....## #.#..#...). ......####.)^.#..... ....).'....#).#..(.. ....))####.####..... .......###.......... .......#.####.#####. .....#....# #.#...#. You can see an orc warlord. Vanquished Creatures Gastronok (Lair:1) The ghost of Figem the Cleaver, a journeyman DDAr of Pakellas (Orc:1) A minotaur (Lab) 4 hydras 3 vault guards (D:14) 2 centaur warriors Erica (D:8) An unseen horror (D:11) 3 hill giants (D:12) An orc knight (D:11) A phantasmal warrior (D:13) 4 griffons A deep elf mage (D:12) 3 manticores An orb spider (Lair:4) 3 ugly things A centaur zombie (D:10) 2 black mambas (Lair:5) 8 elephants 9 spiny frogs 3 gargoyles A freezing wraith (D:13) A tengu conjurer (D:13) A rime drake (Lair:5) 2 two-headed ogres 3 trolls 19 blink frogs A spriggan (Lair:1) A shadow (D:11) 35 yaks A vampire (D:10) 2 wyverns 4 basilisks 12 hippogriffs Grum (Lair:1) 2 hungry ghosts A mottled dragon (D:14) 4 vampire mosquitoes (D:10) 4 wargs (D:11) 6 swamp worms (Lair:3) Edmund (D:4) 2 hell hounds (D:8) 11 water moccasins 7 porcupines 16 orc warriors 12 ogres 7 ice beasts 2 sky beasts A wasp (Lair:5) 2 black bears An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13) 2 necrophages 4 phantoms 18 wolves 5 centaurs 13 crocodiles 19 giant frogs A big kobold (D:8) A wyvern zombie (D:12) A wyvern skeleton (D:7) 5 scorpions 6 killer bees (D:8) 3 wights (D:8) 2 vampire bats (Lair:5) An electric eel (Lair:3) 5 crimson imps A wasp zombie (D:12) 4 jellies 13 orc wizards 6 centaur skeletons 2 giant frog zombies 11 hounds 3 human zombies (Ossuary) 9 orc priests 3 giant frog skeletons 7 iguanas 7 worker ants 7 sheep (Lair:4) 3 hound zombies A hound skeleton (D:8) 4 mummies (Ossuary) 2 worker ant zombies 6 gnolls 16 adders 32 river rats 7 shadow imps 4 oozes 4 adder zombies An adder skeleton (D:9) 2 worms A dart slug (D:2) 5 giant geckos 81 orcs 7 bats 5 giant cockroaches 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 10 goblins 9 hobgoblins 11 jackals 16 kobolds 6 quokkas 15 ball pythons 8 giant newts A jackal skeleton (D:5) 3 jackal zombies (Ossuary) A kobold zombie (Ossuary) An orc zombie (Ossuary) 2 quokka zombies 26 rats 4 fungi 672 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Nessos (Lair:4) A stone giant (Orc:2) A centaur zombie (D:12) A spiny frog (Lair:5) 3 blink frogs (Lair:5) An eye of draining (D:12) 4 vampire bats (Lair:5) 2 orcs 2 bats (Lair:5) A fungus (Lair:1) 17 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A wolf (Lair:6) A crocodile (Lair:6) A bush (Lair:3) 8 fungi 3 plants 14 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 703 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 198 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5 383 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 581 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6 766 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1144 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1144 | D:2 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 1145 | D:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 1221 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1650 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7 1774 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 1885 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8 2134 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2134 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2137 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2543 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2547 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 2560 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2560 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8 3010 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3017 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3305 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Killed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 3322 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9 3471 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Axes 3759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 3922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 3 in Axes 3948 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3969 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4248 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 4355 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10 4472 | D:5 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 4662 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 4955 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 4962 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4969 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4969 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11 5175 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5200 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive 5254 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5309 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5382 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5857 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 6140 | D:7 | Reached * piety under Pakellas 6140 | D:7 | Received a gift from Pakellas 6233 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 6439 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6941 | D:8 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 6941 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13 6999 | D:8 | Reached ** piety under Pakellas 6999 | D:8 | Received a gift from Pakellas 7314 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7347 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7349 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Killed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 7410 | Lair:1 | Noticed Grum 7430 | Lair:1 | Killed Grum 7520 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 7850 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 7863 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 7901 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15 8822 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 8898 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 9422 | Lair:3 | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 9457 | Lair:3 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9482 | Lair:3 | Killed a four-headed hydra 9895 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 9904 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted ring mail 9915 | Lair:3 | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 10101 | D:8 | Noticed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Killed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17 10511 | D:9 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 11049 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12321 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12372 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 12968 | D:12 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 12969 | D:12 | Noticed a centaur warrior 12983 | D:12 | Killed a centaur warrior 13013 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 13216 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 13237 | Lab | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13252 | Lab | Got a fine chain mail 13259 | Lab | Identified Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth) 13266 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock 13268 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 13271 | Lab | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost 13275 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 13279 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 13291 | Lab | Identified the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13448 | D:12 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/120 MP: 17/17 13495 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 13591 | D:12 | Identified a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) 14589 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 14689 | D:14 | Reached skill level 15 in Axes 14740 | D:14 | Noticed Rupert 15043 | Lair:3 | Identified a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth) 15750 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 16142 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 16381 | Lair:4 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 16700 | Lair:4 | Noticed Nessos 16765 | Lair:4 | Killed Nessos 17382 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails 17498 | Lair:5 | Gained mutation: You resist negative energy. (rN+) [Deep Dwarf growth] 17498 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 93/130 MP: 1/19 18189 | Lair:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts 18484 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 18657 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 19395 | D:10 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors! 19395 | D:13 | Found Lyuziqaso's Jewellery Boutique. 19465 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 19687 | Orc:1 | Noticed Figem's ghost (journeyman DDAr) 19765 | D:11 | Reached skill level 16 in Axes 19929 | Orc:1 | Killed Figem's ghost 20225 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines 20464 | Orc:2 | Noticed a stone giant 20474 | Orc:2 | Killed a stone giant 20474 | Orc:2 | Reached *** piety under Pakellas 20474 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Pakellas 20729 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 | ---------------+-------------------------------------------+----- Short Blades | 1 2 | 2.0 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.3 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 | 11.6 Dodging | 3 4 5 7 8 | 8.5 Evocations | 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 | 12.6 Stealth | 2 3 | 3.0 Long Blades | 1 | 1.2 Axes | 1 3 5 8 10 12 14 15 16 | 16.1 Maces & Flails | 1 3 4 5 | 5.4 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | | | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | | | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 516 | 425 | || 1036 Dire flail | | | 45 | 34 | 22 || 101 Battleaxe | | | | 455 | 614 || 1069 Great sword | | | | 11 | || 11 Great mace | | | | | 107 || 107 Throw: Throwing net | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Tomahawk | | | | | 1 || 1 Invok: Quick Charge | | | 1 | 64 | 44 || 109 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 | 2 | || 4 Evoke Flight | | | 3 | 1 | || 4 Stop Flying | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 31 | 95 | 61 || 207 Rod | | | | | 44 || 44 Disc of storms | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 | 26 | 10 || 48 Potion | | | 2 | 7 | 1 || 10 Stab: Confused | | 1 | | | || 1 Sleeping | | | | 3 | || 3 Distracted | | | | 1 | 3 || 4 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 7 | 19 | 30 || 63 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 | || 3 Beef jerky | | | | 3 | 1 || 4 Royal jelly | | | | 2 | || 2 Pizza | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | | 141 | || 283 Plate armour | | 62 | 569 | 381 | 21 || 1033 Chain mail | | | | 23 | 533 || 556 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 315 | 569 | 489 || 1634 Block: Other | | 24 | 109 | 150 | 120 || 403 Reflection | | | 1 | 3 | 3 || 7

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1. I killed a stone giant via heavy application of summons, including boggarts and elven knights and hydrae, oh my. Will the orcish warlord be easier or harder to kill than the stone giant? Looking at the wiki, stone giants appear to be weaker, but hit harder. Thus, warlords should be about 90% as dangerous, while they will last about 25% as many turns as the stone giant in combat.

Edit: When confronted with a six-headed hydra, some slime creatures, and a shadow, the warlord was a pushover. Heh. I'm completely broken.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 02:10 by Sar

The randart cloak is hardly amazing, I'd wear it in branches where rElec is a concern but otherwise I'd prefer a plain enchanted cloak, if one exists.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 02:30 by jwoodward48ss

Sure, it's not amazing, but it's there. That's more than I can say for this "plain enchanted cloak." Haven't seen any kind of cloak this whole game, except for good old Buca Rirauxo. (those resists aren't terrible, too)

I've cleared Orc:2, and am at three stars with Pak. (The horrible spiral of "not enough mp to be able to survive killing things to get more mp to heal" is done! yay!) Where to?

Edit: Killed Urug in a hidden Orc:1 room. Easy. GIVE ME A CHALLENGE, GAME.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 12:08 by CypherZel

jwoodward48ss wrote:So, Cypher, what would you recommend for a first win?

And I still don't know what to acquire.

Edit: Nvm, found some help from a week ago. Got a wand of hasting! YAY!

Pretty much what magipi and I were talking about.

MiBE with Polearms
-start with the best God into the game for pure Melee and D1 berserk
-Minotaurs have +2 apt in everything you will be training besides dodging and evo of you need
-Minotaurs have a retaliation mutation which is great at early/mid game
-Polearms are a personal chose but reach is probably the best thing for newer players since you can get a head start in fights
-Minotaurs are for cool dudes

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 13:11 by goodcoolguy

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 13:27 by nago

jwoodward48ss wrote:1. I killed a stone giant via heavy application of summons, including boggarts and elven knights and hydrae, oh my. Will the orcish warlord be easier or harder to kill than the stone giant? Looking at the wiki, stone giants appear to be weaker, but hit harder. Thus, warlords should be about 90% as dangerous, while they will last about 25% as many turns as the stone giant in combat.

Edit: When confronted with a six-headed hydra, some slime creatures, and a shadow, the warlord was a pushover. Heh. I'm completely broken.

Yes, you're discovering that rod of shadows can win the game for you.
I don't remember if the hard cap for switching the summon from D to depths still exists but aynyway I'd raise a far more evo only for abusing the shit out of it.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 13:34 by dowan

Looks like you're doing pretty well. No boots or gloves anywhere? Try a ctrl+f for those things, just in case.

By the way, you were right to avoid that lair ending with the green dire elephant statues. That vault sucks, you kill an anaconda, then a bunch of dire elephants trap you in the hallway. You teleport out, then kill them at your leisure normally, or just avoid them I guess, but the loot probably isn't worth the HW charges you'd have to spend. Or not, since you're with pak, but it looks like you have piety issues anyway. But you might want to go back there after you finish orc and the rest of the dungeon, as once you're a bit stronger it may be worth going after that loot.

You got spider and swamp this game, but it looks like you have no rPois yet. Personally I'd recommend you start with swamp, just be extra careful around those green drakes, and don't be stingy with the curing potions if you need them. I'm assuming hydras don't do much damage to you, with your OK AC and DD damage shaving.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 13:39 by jwoodward48ss

So what weapon would you recommend for 1-to-1 fights? (Axes are mediocre at that, and I have some pretty good M&Fs.) How about which armour to wear?

Edit: Killed Rupert, with the help of a hydra. Took a fair chunk of my health, though.

Would you say that my in-game skills are sufficient for taking on Swamp? (Good news! Both the ring of Cowardice {rPois, Str+4} and the +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" {freeze, +Fly, rPois, Str+4, SInv} have rPois, and the SInv has been awesome for dealing with unseen horrors. It'll also be good in Spider, at least whenever a ghost moth's around.)

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 14:04 by dowan

jwoodward48ss wrote:So what weapon would you recommend for 1-to-1 fights? (Axes are mediocre at that, and I have some pretty good M&Fs.) How about which armour to wear?

What? Use your axe for all fights! You are much better with the axe, don't waste XP on maces too, use that to improve your defenses, those also will help you in those 1 on 1 fights. 15 base damage is good! If you find any branding scrolls, use them on that axe. Keep training axe skill until it's at 20 skill, then turn it off. Stop training any other weapon immediately, you don't need them and that XP would be better spent elsewhere. Keep training armor, fighting, and dodging, basically just never turn those skills off... Also stop training stealth, it's really not worthwhile in such heavy armor.

Your armor seems pretty good, there's nothing wrong with sticking with that, although if I were you I'd raise str next time you get the chance, as your armor is fairly heavy for your strength.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 14:11 by jwoodward48ss

But... but... but... (that awesome dire flail! CROSSTRAINING!)

How about I stop training M&F (I only trained them to 6, you know), but use Curefrucw when I need SInv or see a hydra. Sounds good?

Should I keep training Evo? I'm thinking definitely, it controls my healing, some of my offensive backups, and all of my god abilities.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 14:21 by dowan

Actually evo doesn't do anything for wand of healing, but even still yes you should keep training evo, if only for that rod of shadows.

Nothing wrong with keeping a backup weapon for whacking hydras, although I think you'll see that the rod of inaccuracy will generally handle them pretty well. Or rod of shadows for that matter. Or some charges from a wand of flame even...
The problem with using it for Sinv is that while you'll be able to see them, you will be trying to hit them with a weapon you're not good with. I think you'll generally be better off just hitting them with the axe while they're invisible. Of course, using Sinv to know where to swing the axe might come in handy from time to time!

I don't see the Curefrewcw dire mace in your char dump, but a dire flail is only base damage 13, so it's probably not even better than your battle axe, even if you did have enough skill to swing it at min-delay. What are the stats on it out of curiosity?

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 14:28 by jwoodward48ss

Okay, I agree. Better to use Evo to kill things Axes can't, than to train a different weapon for a very niche purpose.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1002-g674d22e (tiles) character file. Figem the Severer (Deep Dwarf Artificer) Turns: 26575, Time: 01:55:25 Health: 133/142 AC: 26 Str: 25 XL: 15 Next: 34% Magic: 7/21 EV: 14 Int: 13 God: Pakellas [**....] Gold: 72 SH: 3 Dex: 21 Spells: 5 memorised, 4 levels left rFire + + + SeeInvis + R - +2 dire flail {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv} rCold . . . Gourm . m - +6 plate armour {rF+} rNeg + . . Faith . (shield currently unavailable) rPois + Spirit . s - +2 helmet rElec + Dismiss . S - +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} rCorr . Reflect + (no gloves) SustAt . Harm . (no boots) MR ++... u - +3 amulet of reflection Stlth .......... q - +6 ring of dexterity b - ring of Cowardice {rPois Str+4} @: non-regenerating, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: damage resistance, recharge devices, negative energy resistance 1, sense surroundings 2, slow regeneration 3 a: Device Recharging, Quick Charge, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight You are on level 14 of the Dungeon. You worship Pakellas. Pakellas is pleased with you. You are very hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Ossuary. You have collected 1890 gold pieces. You have spent 1818 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +4 battleaxe R - the +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" (weapon) {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It affects your strength (+4). It protects you from poison. It lets you see invisible. It lets you fly. V - a +0 great mace Missiles v - 2 throwing nets (quivered) Armour j - the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your intelligence (-4). It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It makes you more stealthy. m - a +6 plate armour of fire resistance (worn) s - a +2 helmet (worn) C - the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. S - the +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo (worn) {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) It affects your dexterity (-2). It greatly protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. It increases your rate of regeneration. Rods U - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth) W - a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) Jewellery b - the ring of Cowardice (left hand) {rPois Str+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 13 of the Dungeon) [ring of strength] It affects your strength (+4). It protects you from poison. l - an uncursed ring of magical power p - an uncursed ring of flight q - a +6 ring of dexterity (right hand) u - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck) w - an uncursed ring of ice A - an uncursed amulet of rage X - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion Wands c - a wand of flame (46/48) d - a wand of enslavement (15/24) e - a wand of random effects (32/48) f - a wand of heal wounds (7/9) h - a wand of disintegration (13/24) r - a wand of teleportation (4/9) t - a wand of paralysis (19/24) {god gift} y - a wand of confusion (13/48) B - a wand of slowing (27/48) E - a wand of polymorph (11/24) I - a wand of iceblast (8/15) L - a wand of slowing (21/48) M - a wand of hasting (4/9) P - a wand of acid (6/15) Q - a wand of lightning (4/15) Scrolls n - 3 scrolls of teleportation o - 6 scrolls of remove curse F - 5 scrolls of blinking G - 5 scrolls of fear H - 5 scrolls of fog K - 5 scrolls of magic mapping Z - 4 scrolls of identify Potions k - 7 potions of curing x - 3 potions of haste D - 3 potions of might O - 2 potions of resistance Y - a potion of magic Miscellaneous N - a disc of storms Comestibles g - 11 bread rations i - 8 meat rations z - 22 fruits T - 7 beef jerkies Skills: + Level 11.2 Fighting Level 2.0(2.2) Short Blades Level 1.2(1.9) Long Blades + Level 17.1(17.5) Axes + Level 6.0(12.1) Maces & Flails + Level 12.6 Armour + Level 8.7 Dodging - Level 3.0 Stealth + Level 13.8 Evocations You have 4 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Shock Conj/Air #... 100% 1 ##..... b - Summon Butterflies Summ #....... 100% 1 ##..... c - Throw Frost Conj/Ice #..... 100% 2 ###.... d - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #....... 100% 3 ####... e - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #....... 100% 3 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (14/15) Temple (1/1) D:4 Lair (6/6) D:8 Swamp (0/4) Lair:3 Spider (0/4) Lair:4 Slime (0/5) Lair:6 Orc (2/2) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Trog Uskayaw Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Shops: D:13 = Orc:2 }([} Annotations: D:3 !sigmund, Sigmund Lair:6 exclusion: 3 doors Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are resistant to damage. You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy. You resist negative energy. (rN+) You passively map the area around you. You do not regenerate naturally. Message History Pakellas accepts yer kill. Ye feel yer power returnin'. Nay target in view! Ye op'n tha door. Thar be an op'n door 'ere. Key pressed, stoppin' 'splore. Ye op'n tha door. Thar be an op'n door 'ere. Thar be an op'n door 'ere. Done 'splorin'. Move tha cursor ta view tha level map, or type ? fer a list o' commands. Returnin' ta tha game... Ye be feelin' very hungry. Move tha cursor ta view tha level map, or type ? fer a list o' commands. Returnin' ta tha game... Thar be a stone staircase leadin' down 'ere. Save game an' 'sit? Welcome back, Figem tha Deep Dwarf Artificer. Pakellas says: Ready ta try out some more devices? Press ? fer a list o' commands an' othar information. #......##..#.#.#.#.# ........#..#.#.#.#.# ........#..#.#.#.#.# ))......#..#.#.#.... )#.#<........#.###.# (#.#....#..###.# #.. (#.#...........# ### (#........@##### (#...####### ?#.......### .#.........# ##..####.#.# .#..#..#.#.# .#.......#.######### .#.................# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Rupert (D:14) Gastronok (Lair:1) 2 orc warlords (Orc:2) The ghost of Figem the Cleaver, a journeyman DDAr of Pakellas (Orc:1) A fire dragon (D:14) A minotaur (Lab) 5 hydras 4 vault guards (D:14) 4 centaur warriors A death knight (D:13) Erica (D:8) Urug (Orc:1) 4 orc high priests (Orc:2) 4 unseen horrors 3 hill giants (D:12) 4 orc knights A phantasmal warrior (D:13) 4 orc sorcerers (Orc:2) 4 griffons 2 deep elf magi 3 manticores An orb spider (Lair:4) 4 ugly things A centaur zombie (D:10) A cyclops (D:14) 2 black mambas (Lair:5) 8 elephants 9 spiny frogs 2 kobold demonologists (D:13) 3 gargoyles 2 freezing wraiths (D:13) A tengu conjurer (D:13) A rime drake (Lair:5) An efreet (D:13) 6 two-headed ogres 6 trolls 19 blink frogs A hornet zombie (D:14) A spriggan (Lair:1) 2 shadows 39 yaks A vampire (D:10) A wraith (D:13) 4 wyverns 4 basilisks 14 hippogriffs Grum (Lair:1) 2 hungry ghosts A mottled dragon (D:14) 4 vampire mosquitoes (D:10) 7 wargs A soldier ant (shapeshifter) (D:14) 6 swamp worms (Lair:3) Edmund (D:4) 2 hell hounds (D:8) 11 water moccasins 7 porcupines 48 orc warriors 18 ogres 7 ice beasts 2 sky beasts A wasp (Lair:5) 2 black bears An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13) 3 necrophages 4 phantoms 18 wolves 9 centaurs 13 crocodiles 19 giant frogs A big kobold (D:8) 2 wyvern zombies A wyvern skeleton (D:7) 5 scorpions 6 killer bees (D:8) 3 wights (D:8) 2 vampire bats (Lair:5) An electric eel (Lair:3) 8 crimson imps A wasp zombie (D:12) 7 jellies 21 orc wizards 6 centaur skeletons 2 giant frog zombies 12 hounds 3 human zombies (Ossuary) 34 orc priests 3 giant frog skeletons 7 iguanas 7 worker ants 10 sheep 3 hound zombies A hound skeleton (D:8) 4 mummies (Ossuary) 2 worker ant zombies 6 gnolls 16 adders 32 river rats 10 shadow imps 4 oozes 4 adder zombies An adder skeleton (D:9) 2 worms A dart slug (D:2) 5 giant geckos 135 orcs 7 bats 5 giant cockroaches 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 10 goblins 9 hobgoblins 11 jackals 19 kobolds 6 quokkas 15 ball pythons 8 giant newts A jackal skeleton (D:5) 3 jackal zombies (Ossuary) A kobold zombie (Ossuary) An orc zombie (Ossuary) 2 quokka zombies 26 rats 4 fungi 872 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) An orc warlord (Orc:2) Nessos (Lair:4) A stone giant (Orc:2) 3 orc knights A centaur zombie (D:12) A spiny frog (Lair:5) 3 blink frogs (Lair:5) 5 orc warriors An ogre (Orc:1) An eye of draining (D:12) 4 vampire bats (Lair:5) An orc wizard (Orc:1) An orc priest (Orc:2) 9 orcs 2 bats (Lair:5) A fungus (Lair:1) 36 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A wolf (Lair:6) A crocodile (Lair:6) A bush (Lair:3) 13 fungi 3 plants 19 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 927 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Figem the Deep Dwarf Artificer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 198 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/5 383 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 581 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 6/6 766 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1144 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 1144 | D:2 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 1145 | D:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 1221 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1650 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/38 MP: 7/7 1774 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 1885 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/44 MP: 8/8 2134 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2134 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2137 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2543 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2547 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 2560 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2560 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/52 MP: 8/8 3010 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3017 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3305 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Killed Edmund 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 3322 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 3322 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/61 MP: 9/9 3471 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Axes 3759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 3922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 3 in Axes 3948 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3969 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4248 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 4355 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/69 MP: 10/10 4472 | D:5 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 4662 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 4955 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 4962 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4969 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You passively map the area around you. [Deep Dwarf growth] 4969 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/78 MP: 11/11 5175 | D:6 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 5200 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Pakellas the Inventive 5254 | D:6 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5309 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5382 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5857 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 6140 | D:7 | Reached * piety under Pakellas 6140 | D:7 | Received a gift from Pakellas 6233 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 6439 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6941 | D:8 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 6941 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/90 MP: 13/13 6999 | D:8 | Reached ** piety under Pakellas 6999 | D:8 | Received a gift from Pakellas 7314 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 7347 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 7349 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Killed Gastronok 7386 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 7410 | Lair:1 | Noticed Grum 7430 | Lair:1 | Killed Grum 7520 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 7850 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 7863 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 7901 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/99 MP: 1/15 8822 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 8898 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 9422 | Lair:3 | Identified the Papyrus of Creative Heat (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 9457 | Lair:3 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9482 | Lair:3 | Killed a four-headed hydra 9895 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 9904 | Lair:3 | Got a twisted ring mail 9915 | Lair:3 | Identified the +0 ring mail "Elarysk" {rElec rF++ rN+ MR-} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 10101 | D:8 | Noticed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Killed Erica 10128 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 61/110 MP: 5/17 10511 | D:9 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 11049 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12321 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12372 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 12968 | D:12 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 12969 | D:12 | Noticed a centaur warrior 12983 | D:12 | Killed a centaur warrior 13013 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 13216 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 13230 | Lab | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 13237 | Lab | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Buca Rirauxo {rElec rF++ Regen+ Dex-2} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13252 | Lab | Got a fine chain mail 13259 | Lab | Identified Neboaw's Papyrus of the Bard (You found it in a labyrinth) 13266 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock 13268 | Lab | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 13271 | Lab | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost 13275 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 13279 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 13291 | Lab | Identified the +5 chain mail of Leaves {rC+ MR++ Int-4 Stlth+} (You found it in a labyrinth) 13448 | D:12 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/120 MP: 17/17 13495 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 13591 | D:12 | Identified a +5 rod of shadows (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) 14589 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 14689 | D:14 | Reached skill level 15 in Axes 14740 | D:14 | Noticed Rupert 15043 | Lair:3 | Identified a +3 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth) 15750 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 16142 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 16381 | Lair:4 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 16700 | Lair:4 | Noticed Nessos 16765 | Lair:4 | Killed Nessos 17382 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails 17498 | Lair:5 | Gained mutation: You resist negative energy. (rN+) [Deep Dwarf growth] 17498 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 93/130 MP: 1/19 18189 | Lair:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts 18484 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 18657 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 19395 | D:10 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors! 19395 | D:13 | Found Lyuziqaso's Jewellery Boutique. 19465 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 19687 | Orc:1 | Noticed Figem's ghost (journeyman DDAr) 19765 | D:11 | Reached skill level 16 in Axes 19929 | Orc:1 | Killed Figem's ghost 20225 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines 20464 | Orc:2 | Noticed a stone giant 20474 | Orc:2 | Killed a stone giant 20474 | Orc:2 | Reached *** piety under Pakellas 20474 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Pakellas 20729 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 20734 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 21250 | Orc:2 | Found Feodos's Weapon Emporium. 21282 | Orc:2 | Found Ufedestro's Gadget Shoppe. 21301 | Orc:2 | Bought a wand of teleportation (4/9) for 384 gold pieces 21319 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 21352 | Orc:2 | Bought a +0 bardiche for 108 gold pieces 21352 | Orc:2 | Bought the cursed +2 dire flail "Curefrucw" {freeze, +Fly rPois Str+4 SInv} for 481 gold pieces 21614 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 21658 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 22115 | Orc:2 | Found Hygoes's Antique Armour Boutique. 22183 | Orc:2 | Found Jeamaq's Gadget Emporium. 22279 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 22698 | Orc:2 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 23116 | Orc:1 | Noticed Urug 23186 | Orc:1 | Noticed an orc warlord 23347 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 23567 | D:13 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 92/140 MP: 2/21 24561 | D:13 | Bought the ring of Cowardice {rPois Str+4} for 573 gold pieces 24902 | Orc:2 | Bought a wand of disintegration (13/24) for 272 gold pieces 24940 | Orc:1 | Killed Urug 25507 | D:14 | Killed Rupert 25507 | D:14 | Reached skill level 17 in Axes Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 | ---------------+----------------------------------------------+----- Short Blades | 1 2 | 2.0 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 | 11.2 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 12 | 12.6 Dodging | 3 4 5 7 8 | 8.7 Evocations | 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 | 13.8 Stealth | 2 3 | 3.0 Long Blades | 1 | 1.2 Axes | 1 3 5 8 10 12 14 15 16 17 | 17.1 Maces & Flails | 1 3 4 5 6 | 6.0 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 245 | 56 | | | || 301 Long sword | | 59 | | | || 59 Broad axe | | 95 | 516 | 425 | || 1036 Dire flail | | | 45 | 34 | 171 || 250 Battleaxe | | | | 455 | 1083 || 1538 Great sword | | | | 11 | || 11 Great mace | | | | | 123 || 123 Throw: Throwing net | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Tomahawk | | | | | 1 || 1 Invok: Quick Charge | | | 1 | 64 | 105 || 170 Device Surge | | | | | 2 || 2 Abil: Device Recharging | | 1 | 1 | 2 | || 4 Evoke Flight | | | 3 | 1 | 2 || 6 Stop Flying | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Evoke: Wand | 3 | 17 | 31 | 95 | 118 || 264 Rod | | | | | 68 || 68 Disc of storms | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | 6 | 1 | 5 | 26 | 17 || 55 Potion | | | 2 | 7 | 2 || 11 Stab: Confused | | 1 | | | || 1 Sleeping | | | | 3 | || 3 Distracted | | | | 1 | 5 || 6 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 4 | 7 | 19 | 50 || 83 Bread ration | | | 2 | 1 | 1 || 4 Beef jerky | | | | 3 | 1 || 4 Royal jelly | | | | 2 | || 2 Pizza | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Armor: Ring mail | 98 | 44 | | 141 | || 283 Plate armour | | 62 | 569 | 381 | 448 || 1460 Chain mail | | | | 23 | 533 || 556 Dodge: Dodged | 148 | 113 | 315 | 569 | 850 || 1995 Block: Other | | 24 | 109 | 150 | 213 || 496 Reflection | | | 1 | 3 | 7 || 11

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 14:35 by jwoodward48ss

Cleared Swamp:1 without much trouble.

Edit: Cleared Swamp:2, killed Margery with some summons AND MY AXE! Damn smiting smoke demons, had to use up all of my MP to heal myself.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 14:40 by dowan

Ah, ok. That dire flail is only +2, although it does have freeze. Even still, the battleaxe is probably better, and once you get it branded it will definitely be better. +fly doesn't help you kill guys, rPois is occasionally nice, but once again doesn't help you kill guys, Sinv does actually help you kill guys, but not that much. I think you've overvaluing the length of the list of properties of that weapon.

Are you actually having any trouble with hydras? It seems like they wouldn't be able to do much damage to you. I see you've found a ring with rPois, so swamp should be really simple for you. I'm sure you could handle spider too, but swamp is generally easier.

Are there any good rings for sale or on the floor in the dungeon? That dex +6 ring is probably only worth 2-3 ev for you(check it out for yourself by taking it off and seeing how much your EV drops), depending on what else is out there you might have something better available. I don't see anything in your inventory I'd rather wear though. Still no gloves or boots, hopefully you'll find some sooner or later. The ring of flight might actually come in handy in the swamp, if you find yourself having to fight in shallow water for some reason.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 14:54 by jwoodward48ss

No gold. There's a Str+6 ring in D, but I can't buy it.

In Swamp:4, I found Bai Suzhen.

Nonononono.

I quickly ran to the stairs. Do you think I can beat her, summon-against-summon? Hydrae are particularly good against summons, though. I'll make sure I stick near a staircase so I can reset the fight if I have to.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:05 by dowan

I haven't seen Bai Suzhen yet... so I really can't comment. She sounds pretty dangerous. Your plan of fighting from the stairway seems sensible, you could at least try that and if it starts looking ugly just leave. Remember, you can always put swamp off till later and go to spider instead. You could also try to drag her upstairs to swamp 3, teleport away, then go back to swamp 4 from a different staircase. Or you could try just avoiding her too.

EDIT: The STR+6 ring would probably be a little bit better than the dex+6 ring, but probably not worth spending any significant amount of gold on, especially if there are other things worth buying.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:08 by Shard1697

If you can give yourself rElec(ex: resist potion) and are careful you can kill her. Otherwise, avoid fighting her.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:10 by dowan

Well he's got rElec on his cloak already, so that's covered. But a hydra summoning draconian sounds like the kind of thing that could go from easy to deadly really fast. Does she have a lot of HP? It kind of sounds like she does.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:12 by jwoodward48ss

Heh, cut her up with an axe! rElec came in handy.

aaaand cut my way past an awful undead rune vault, zapped an oklob with lightning twice, dodged miasmic clouds, and MY FIRST RUNE! Thanks, guys! I think I'll take on Spider next. Anything I should know about it? (I've been there before. How should I deal with those annoying jumping spiders? Wands? Bring a crossbow?)

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:23 by jwoodward48ss

Pak damnit! Fricking ghost moth ate all my magic and made me clumsy! How do I become unclumsy?

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:25 by Shard1697

Take it slow, each time you alert new enemies back up so more don't arrive while you're fighting. Enemy density is high there.

Also, tarantulas can confuse you via melee, even if you have rPois. If they're close they're priority targets.
You'll become unclumsy by gaining XP, it's not a big deal unless you lose like... all of a stat.

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:32 by jwoodward48ss

Are you sure? I thought I read somewhere that DD don't regen stats. I suppose that might have been before !oRA were removed, though. Now it's XP-gated stat restoration for all? (But mummies don't have that...)

Edit: The wiki says thus: "Living there for countless generations made them turn pale and lose all ability to regenerate on their own (nor are they receptive to any effects which merely hasten regeneration), as well as all ability to recover from losses to their primary attributes over time." (Emphasis mine.) I checked the in-game manual, and it agrees. What gives, dcss?

Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 15:42 by dowan

What shard said. Take it slow in spider, and lure each group back to known territory after you run into them. You shouldn't have too much trouble, use your wands to kill orb spiders at range, don't go shooting a crossbow with 0 skill when you have perfectly good wands and rods to use.

Jumping spiders should be hit with an axe when they are close enough, generally they're not terribly threatening, although it does suck to get webbed in a crowd. Remember that you can use curing potions to get rid of confusion, although confusion isn't as bad for you since you use an axe, it's still pretty bad.

I have to assume that wiki entry is outdated, I can't imagine DDs are unable to get stats back just like everyone else. Stat drain used to regenerate over time instead of via XP, and there were potions to fix it, but now it's only fixed by gaining XP.