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Post Friday, 1st May 2015, 13:28

YASDx2: Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

This series is inspired by: http://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopi ... =5&t=15889

Even the good builds are stupid because I choose them for the wrong reasons.

I'll announce my http://crawl.s-z.org sessions, and I welcome and enjoy spectators.

(Webtiles lags by about 0.2 seconds, but it's just about acceptable for a turn-based game.)
Last edited by Pollen_Golem on Tuesday, 2nd June 2015, 06:23, edited 7 times in total.

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Post Friday, 1st May 2015, 13:29

Re: advise solid early KoHu

This KoHu build is meant to be crossbow-dependent.

Are crossbows weaker than they were a few versions back, or is it just me?
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (webtiles) character file.

PollenGolem the Covert (Kobold Hunter)             Turns: 14560, Time: 02:23:08

Health: 72/72      AC: 14    Str: 14    XL:     11   Next: 45%
Magic:  11/11      EV: 15    Int:  9    God:   
Gold:   471        SH:  7    Dex: 17    Spells: 0 memorised, 10 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     F - +0 short sword (elec)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     U - +1 ring mail {rC+}
rNeg   + . .     SustAb   .     q - +0 shield
rPois  +         Gourm    .     H - +0 helmet
rElec  .         Spirit   .     K - +2 cloak {rPois}
rCorr  .         Warding  .     P - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     (no boots)
MR     .....                    N - amulet of regeneration
Stlth  +++++.....               Y - ring of positive energy
                                d - +2 ring of protection

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: carnivore 3, mutation resistance 1
a: no special abilities


You are on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 10 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer.

You have collected 651 gold pieces.
You have spent 180 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a +1 hand crossbow
 e - an enchanted dagger
 n - a glowing whip
 x - an enchanted hand axe
 A - a glowing trident
 F - a +0 short sword of electrocution (weapon)
 I - a flail of crushing
 J - the cursed +1 flail of Xerabboo {vamp, SInv}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts no extra harm, but heals its wielder somewhat when it strikes a
   living foe.
   
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 O - a +0 blowgun
 W - a +2 short sword of speed
 X - the +2 hunting sling of Kismet {velocity, Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   Any stone fired from it inflicts extra damage.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
Missiles
 c - 49 bolts
 j - 276 stones (quivered)
Armour
 l - an embroidered hat
 q - a +0 shield (worn)
 r - a +1 robe of positive energy
 v - a glowing robe {Sigmund's}
 H - a +0 helmet (worn)
 K - a +2 cloak of poison resistance (worn)
 P - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 U - a +1 ring mail of cold resistance (worn)
Magical staves
 M - a curved runed staff
Jewellery
 d - a +2 ring of protection (left hand)
 i - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
 k - a silver ring
 m - an uncursed ring of magical power
 N - an amulet of regeneration (around neck)
 Y - a ring of positive energy (right hand)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of random effects
 E - a wand of confusion {zapped: 3}
Scrolls
 f - 3 scrolls labeled ZAZUHI LYUMU
 g - a scroll labeled LUTHAG RULYNEXT
 h - 10 scrolls of identify
 p - 3 scrolls labeled URALE UH YPROH
 u - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 y - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 D - 4 scrolls labeled MIGEOM IMEU
 G - 2 scrolls labeled HUONIA TEUNEIPN
 L - a scroll labeled OXZEUN ABRI
 R - 4 scrolls labeled GOITWYPNAU
 T - 2 scrolls labeled FAOLU RYETHIF
 V - 2 scrolls labeled FAMOXE TAFEY
Potions
 s - a dark potion
 t - a potion of haste
 w - 2 viscous sapphire potions
 z - 4 potions of curing
 B - 2 sapphire potions
 C - 7 ruby potions
 S - a metallic golden potion
Books
 o - a book of Frost   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Freeze                       Ice                           1
    b - Throw Frost                  Conjuration/Ice               2
    c - Ozocubu's Armour             Charms/Ice                    3
    d - Throw Icicle                 Conjuration/Ice               4
    e - Summon Ice Beast             Ice/Summoning                 4
    f - Condensation Shield          Ice                           4
 Q - a book of Power   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Fulminant Prism              Conjuration/Hexes             4
    b - Iskenderun's Mystic Blast    Conjuration                   4
    c - Venom Bolt                   Conjuration/Poison            5
    d - Bolt of Magma                Conjuration/Fire/Earth        5
    e - Iron Shot                    Conjuration/Earth             6
    f - Orb of Destruction           Conjuration                   7
    g - Spellforged Servitor         Conjuration/Summoning         7
 Z - the Compendium of Confrontation and Air
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Shock                        Conjuration/Air               1
    b - Static Discharge             Conjuration/Air               3
    c - Summon Lightning Spire       Summoning/Air                 4
    d - Irradiate                    Conjuration/Transmutation     5


   Skills:
 + Level 9.8 Fighting
 - Level 8.3 Short Blades
 - Level 10.0 Crossbows
 * Level 0.3 Throwing
 - Level 3.2 Armour
 * Level 8.1 Dodging
 - Level 11.0 Stealth
 * Level 0.2 Evocations


You have 10 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (9/15)             Temple (1/1) D:4         
  Lair: D:8-11         Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:5 [

Annotations:
D:8 Prince Ribbit
D:9 Erica; Erolcha


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You are somewhat resistant to further mutation.


Message History

There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You climb downwards.
Level annotation: Prince Ribbit
There is a stone staircase leading up, spattered with blood here.
You see here a whip.
You see here a ring mail.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
Items here: " %%% ((( :
Drop what? 52/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You drop a meat ration.
You drop 2 chunks of flesh.
Eat one of 2 chunks of flesh? (ye/n/q/i?)
This raw flesh tastes great.
You continue eating. x2
i - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
Q - a book of Power
Items here: %%%% (((
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A centaur warrior (D:9)
  Pikel (D:7)
  The ghost of Somatism the Changer, an experienced OpTm of Gozag (D:4)
  A troll (D:9)
  2 two-headed ogres
  Sigmund (D:5)
  A human (D:7)
  A yak (D:9)
  A deep elf mage (D:9)
  A steam dragon (D:9)
  Grum (D:9)
  A hippogriff (D:9)
  3 wolves (D:9)
  Edmund (D:5)
  A water moccasin (D:7)
  2 ice beasts
  3 ogres (D:9)
  A black bear (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:8)
  4 phantoms
  3 slaves (D:7)
  3 centaurs
  A necrophage (D:7)
  A wyvern zombie (D:9)
  2 giant frogs
  A wyvern skeleton (D:6)
  5 scorpions
  4 wights (D:9)
  5 killer bees
  3 crimson imps
  11 hounds
  A centaur skeleton (D:5)
  5 orc priests
  11 jellies
  A giant frog zombie (D:9)
  Ijyb (D:1)
  10 orc wizards
  2 iguanas (D:9)
  3 worker ants
  4 sheep (D:7)
  3 hound skeletons
  3 worker ant zombies
  A river rat (D:3)
  14 adders
  4 shadow imps
  2 oozes
  2 adder zombies
  An adder skeleton (D:9)
  4 worms
  4 giant geckos
  38 orcs
  3 ball pythons
  A bat skeleton (D:5)
  A bat zombie (D:6)
  17 goblins
  16 hobgoblins
  11 jackals
  7 quokkas
  17 bats
  4 giant cockroaches
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:4)
  7 giant newts
  23 kobolds
  A quokka skeleton (D:6)
  A quokka zombie (D:6)
  15 rats
307 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A wolf (D:9)
1 creature vanquished.

Grand Total: 308 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | PollenGolem, the Kobold Hunter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 12/12 MP: 1/1
   160 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Crossbows
   317 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/17 MP: 2/2
   376 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
   387 | D:1      | Killed Ijyb
   387 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 8/21 MP: 3/3
   870 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 13/26 MP: 4/4
  2557 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  2571 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 21/30 MP: 5/5
  2581 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Crossbows
  2595 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  2682 | Sewer    | Noticed stigmas's ghost (average DrTm)
  2704 | Sewer    | Noticed Purgy
  3519 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3536 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3550 | D:5      | Noticed Sigmund
  3584 | D:5      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  3587 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  3588 | D:5      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  3759 | D:4      | HP: 1/30 [hound (6)]
  3760 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  3760 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 1/35 MP: 6/6
  4089 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4165 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4625 | D:4      | Noticed Somatism's ghost (experienced OpTm)
  5287 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  5900 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Crossbows
  6204 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 33/40 MP: 7/7
  6828 | D:5      | Got a slimy flail
  6848 | D:5      | Found Giker's Antique Armour Shop.
  6854 | D:5      | Noticed a phantom
  6862 | D:5      | Noticed a phantom
  6928 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  6928 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Crossbows
  7045 | D:5      | Bought a glowing helmet for 90 gold pieces
  7045 | D:5      | Bought a runed cloak for 90 gold pieces
  7125 | D:5      | Killed a phantom
  7293 | D:5      | Identified the cursed +1 flail of Xerabboo {vamp, SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  7757 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/44 MP: 8/8
  7898 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  8348 | D:6      | Got a creamy pearl robe
  8681 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  8889 | D:6      | Got a crystal hunting sling
  8929 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  8930 | D:7      | Identified the Compendium of Confrontation and Air (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  9048 | D:7      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  9251 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 44/54 MP: 9/9
  9394 | D:7      | Identified the +0 robe of Integrity {rN+} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 10028 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
 10845 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
 10845 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 10845 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 37/64 MP: 10/10
 11403 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
 11629 | D:9      | Reached skill level 9 in Crossbows
 11629 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 11834 | D:9      | Noticed a centaur warrior
 11835 | D:9      | Killed a centaur warrior
 12012 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 11/11
 12066 | D:9      | Identified the cursed +2 hunting sling of Kismet {velocity, Dex+4} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 12108 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 12435 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Crossbows
 12607 | D:9      | Noticed Grum
 12609 | D:9      | Noticed Erica
 12693 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 13311 | D:9      | Killed Grum
 13511 | D:5      | Killed Edmund
 13588 | D:5      | Killed Sigmund
 13657 | D:5      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 13658 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 14165 | D:4      | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
 14405 | D:4      | Killed Somatism's ghost


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    56 |   256 |   454 |   490 ||  1256
 Fire: Hand crossbow     |    13 |    79 |    89 |    13 ||   194
Throw: Stone             |       |    42 |    19 |     2 ||    63
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |     3 |     1 |     1 ||     5
       Potion            |       |     2 |     4 |     4 ||    10
 Stab: Sleeping          |     2 |     2 |     2 |    21 ||    27
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     4 ||     4
       Confused          |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     8 |    11 |    22 |    15 ||    56


I had a breezy time clearing D:1-8 despite many Uniques, because of good gear finds.
A goblin carried a shield on D:3. I didn't know they could do that!
There's a slimey fire dragon armor on sale for 1300 gold.

I have a +1 vampiric flail, but I'm not sure I need it. I have good defenses and an amulet of regeneration. I like switching to the crossbow as necessary. I haven't trained the 0-apt m&f. And I have good short blades - a +1 short sword of electrocution, and a +2 short sword of speed.

I could use some advice on the best way to go about identifying/purging my inventory.
Current plan is to worship Trog.

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Post Friday, 1st May 2015, 13:55

Re: advise solid early KoHu

Identify: use identify scrolls on the potions, and read-ID the scrolls. This is the standard way. The reasoning is that read-ID-ing scrolls won't hurt you (the worst that can happen is that you waste a blink scroll), but don't quaff-ID potions, because mutation can ruin your character.

Weapons: the elec short sword is a great find. Elec is one of the miraculous brands that make even bad weapons good (and short swords are bad). The speed short sword is pretty trashy.

Skills: don't train throwing.

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Post Friday, 8th May 2015, 07:21

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Series

I'm continuing this character in around 10 hours on the s-z server! That's 5 pm UTC.

I have a backup XL5 KoHu ready to join Oka, in 0.16.

EDIT: it's over, here's the dump. Thank you so much to all the people who came out and watched! I had a lot of help especially with making hard decisions. Cleared dungeon, orc, lair, swamp, and snake. No early god abilities was easy to get over. Berserk was rarely even useful until Swamp. At one point it took out probably 20 ogres at once, well berserk and haste to be precise. Snake wasn't very threatening since I had the right resistances and xbow is really good in snake. I can now have rCorr and rN+++ if I want. Does that mean Vaults or Slime Pits? I can go to Slime with rCorr and rC++ plus a ring of either rC or MR+, is that enough to clear at least one slime floor? P.S. webtiles gradually becomes slower and slower for me, until I start actually seeing the messages come line by line. Saving and resuming makes it go back to lag-free. By the way, does shooting bolts of cold from a crossbow of electrocution make you deal cold damage, and electrocute on top of that?


  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (webtiles) character file.

PollenGolem the Sniper (Kobold Hunter)             Turns: 50586, Time: 10:53:13

Health: 127/127    AC: 19    Str: 21    XL:     20   Next: 35%
Magic:  27/27      EV: 32    Int: 12    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   1044       SH:  0    Dex: 18    Spells: 0 memorised, 19 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis +     b - +5 triple crossbow of Sostretra {elec, rPois Int+3 Dex-2}
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     j - +5 ring mail of Umugysum {Str+2 Dex+3 SInv}
rNeg   + + .     SustAb   .     (shield restricted)
rPois  +         Gourm    .     A - +0 helmet of Purpose {rN++ rCorr}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     g - +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
rCorr  +         Warding  .     o - +1 pair of gloves {archery}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     (no boots)
MR     +....                    N - amulet of regeneration
Stlth  +++++.....               i - ring of stealth
                                h - ring of protection from fire

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: carnivore 3, mutation resistance 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine


You are on level 1 of the Snake Pit.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 36 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have also visited: Sewer, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 4216 gold pieces.
You have spent 3172 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - the +5 triple crossbow of Sostretra (weapon) {elec, rPois Int+3 Dex-2}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Swamp)   
   
   It charges the ammunition it shoots with electricity; occasionally upon a
   hit, such missiles may discharge and cause terrible harm.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It protects you from poison.
 p - a glowing arbalest {god gift}
 x - a +9 antimagic quick blade
 H - a demon whip of draining
 J - the +3 arbalest "Besiz" {velocity, MR+ Int+2 Dex+5}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   Any bolt fired from it inflicts extra damage.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+5).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Missiles
 d - 36 bolts of frost
 e - 24 bolts of penetration
 n - 157 bolts (quivered)
 w - 29 bolts of flame
 G - 28 poisoned bolts
Armour
 c - a glowing chain mail
 g - the +2 cloak of Starlight (worn) {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
 j - the +5 ring mail of Umugysum (worn) {Str+2 Dex+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It enhances your eyesight.
 o - a +1 pair of gloves of archery (worn)
 A - the +0 helmet of Purpose (worn) {rN++ rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 K - a +2 cloak of poison resistance
 T - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
 W - the +2 helmet "Saled" {rF+ MP+9 Int+2}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
Rods
 O - a +6 lightning rod (13/13)
   (You acquired it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
Jewellery
 h - a ring of protection from fire (left hand)
 i - a ring of stealth (right hand)
 r - the ring of Xom's Entertainment {Wiz +Fly rC+}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It protects you from cold.
   It lets you fly.
 I - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 N - an amulet of regeneration (around neck)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of slowing
 k - a wand of paralysis
 l - a wand of polymorph
 m - a wand of disintegration
 t - a wand of hasting (4)
 U - a wand of confusion (21)
Scrolls
 f - 9 scrolls of fear
 v - a scroll of silence
 y - 11 scrolls of teleportation
 D - 5 scrolls of immolation
 F - a scroll of torment
 L - 3 scrolls of blinking
 R - a scroll of fog
 X - a scroll of magic mapping
Potions
 q - 2 potions of resistance
 s - a potion of agility
 u - 2 potions of invisibility
 z - 13 potions of curing
 B - 3 potions of heal wounds
 C - 6 potions of restore abilities
 M - 6 potions of might
 S - 2 potions of flight
 V - a potion of haste
 Z - 4 potions of cancellation
Books
 E - a book of Ice   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Ice Form                     Ice/Transmutation             4
    b - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    c - Ozocubu's Refrigeration      Ice                           6
    d - Bolt of Cold                 Conjuration/Ice               6
    e - Freezing Cloud               Conjuration/Ice/Air           6
    f - Simulacrum                   Ice/Necromancy                6
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
Miscellaneous
 P - a sack of spiders
 Q - a fan of gales
 Y - a lantern of shadows


   Skills:
 - Level 14.0 Fighting
 - Level 12.0 Short Blades
 - Level 24.0 Crossbows
 - Level 0.3 Throwing
 * Level 9.0 Armour
 - Level 17.0 Dodging
 - Level 14.0 Stealth
 - Level 10.0 Evocations


You have 19 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (8/8) D:11
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:5        Snake (4/4) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:6
    Orc (4/4) D:9             Elf (0/3) Orc:4        Vaults (0/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:5 [   Orc:4 (!**[[(%!

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8
Trove: D:12 (show abyssal rune of Zot)

Annotations:
D:9 Erica
Swamp:1 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You are somewhat resistant to further mutation.


Vanquished Creatures
 (...)
Grand Total: 1536 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | PollenGolem, the Kobold Hunter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 12/12 MP: 1/1
   160 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Crossbows
   317 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/17 MP: 2/2
   376 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
   387 | D:1      | Killed Ijyb
   387 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 8/21 MP: 3/3
   870 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 13/26 MP: 4/4
  2557 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  2571 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 21/30 MP: 5/5
  2581 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Crossbows
  2595 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  2682 | Sewer    | Noticed stigmas's ghost (average DrTm)
  2704 | Sewer    | Noticed Purgy
  3519 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3536 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3550 | D:5      | Noticed Sigmund
  3584 | D:5      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  3587 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  3588 | D:5      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  3759 | D:4      | HP: 1/30 [hound (6)]
  3760 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  3760 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 1/35 MP: 6/6
  4089 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4165 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4625 | D:4      | Noticed Somatism's ghost (experienced OpTm)
  5287 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  5900 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Crossbows
  6204 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 33/40 MP: 7/7
  6828 | D:5      | Got a slimy flail
  6848 | D:5      | Found Giker's Antique Armour Shop.
  6854 | D:5      | Noticed a phantom
  6862 | D:5      | Noticed a phantom
  6928 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  6928 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Crossbows
  7045 | D:5      | Bought a glowing helmet for 90 gold pieces
  7045 | D:5      | Bought a runed cloak for 90 gold pieces
  7125 | D:5      | Killed a phantom
  7293 | D:5      | Identified the cursed +1 flail of Xerabboo {vamp, SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  7757 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/44 MP: 8/8
  7898 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  8348 | D:6      | Got a creamy pearl robe
  8681 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  8889 | D:6      | Got a crystal hunting sling
  8929 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  8930 | D:7      | Identified the Compendium of Confrontation and Air (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  9048 | D:7      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  9251 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 44/54 MP: 9/9
  9394 | D:7      | Identified the +0 robe of Integrity {rN+} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 10028 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
 10845 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
 10845 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 10845 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 37/64 MP: 10/10
 11403 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
 11629 | D:9      | Reached skill level 9 in Crossbows
 11629 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 11834 | D:9      | Noticed a centaur warrior
 11835 | D:9      | Killed a centaur warrior
 12012 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 11/11
 12066 | D:9      | Identified the cursed +2 hunting sling of Kismet {velocity, Dex+4} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 12108 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 12435 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Crossbows
 12607 | D:9      | Noticed Grum
 12609 | D:9      | Noticed Erica
 12693 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 13311 | D:9      | Killed Grum
 13511 | D:5      | Killed Edmund
 13588 | D:5      | Killed Sigmund
 13657 | D:5      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 13658 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 14165 | D:4      | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
 14405 | D:4      | Killed Somatism's ghost
 14605 | D:5      | Became a worshipper of Trog the Wrathful
 14721 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 14731 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 14847 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 15138 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 15194 | D:10     | Acquired Trog's first power
 15258 | D:10     | Noticed a manticore
 15266 | D:10     | Killed a manticore
 15587 | D:10     | Found a flagged portal.
 15619 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 15842 | Bailey   | Noticed an orc knight
 15844 | Bailey   | Noticed an orc knight
 15911 | Bailey   | Noticed an orc knight
 16081 | Bailey   | Killed an orc knight
 16081 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 16084 | Bailey   | Got a glittering wooden ring
 16100 | Bailey   | Killed an orc knight
 16100 | Bailey   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 77/77 MP: 12/12
 16101 | Bailey   | Killed an orc knight
 16245 | D:10     | Acquired Trog's second power
 16543 | D:11     | Noticed Snorg
 16713 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
 16885 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 17190 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 17190 | Lair:1   | Noticed Joseph
 17250 | Lair:1   | Killed Joseph
 18169 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 18392 | Lair:2   | Acquired Trog's third power
 18592 | Lair:2   | Noticed Fannar
 18868 | Lair:2   | Identified the ring "Seor" {Fire +Inv rPois MP+9 Str-4} (You found it in a bailey)
 19121 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 19121 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 60/82 MP: 13/13
 19231 | Lair:3   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 19280 | Lair:3   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 19557 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 19569 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 19834 | Lair:3   | Got a brightly glowing long sword
 20818 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 20983 | Lair:5   | Identified the +5 long sword "Newtslayer" {pain, rC++ Str-2 Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 21119 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 21451 | Lair:5   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 21517 | Lair:5   | Got a slimy ring mail
 21530 | Lair:5   | Identified the +5 ring mail of Umugysum {Str+2 Dex+3 SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 21640 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 21784 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 21784 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 21853 | Lair:5   | Identified the Compendium of Entrancing Snow
 22112 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 22464 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 23009 | D:10     | Noticed an unseen horror
 23045 | D:10     | Killed an unseen horror
 23230 | Orc:1    | Noticed an orc knight
 23452 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc knight
 23452 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 86/88 MP: 17/19
 23534 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 23777 | Orc:2    | Noticed Sonja
 23783 | Orc:2    | Killed Sonja
 24204 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 25022 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 25153 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 25300 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
 25364 | Orc:4    | Found Apsi Pef's Antique Armour Emporium.
 25364 | Orc:4    | Found Kaaphoir's General Store.
 25366 | Orc:4    | Found Feurphei's Assorted Antiques.
 25366 | Orc:4    | Found Vasod's Distillery.
 25394 | Orc:4    | Bought a shiny helmet for 99 gold pieces
 25394 | Orc:4    | Bought a pair of embroidered boots for 99 gold pieces
 25397 | Orc:4    | Bought an emerald ring for 145 gold pieces
 25537 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 25559 | Orc:4    | Noticed Nessos
 25580 | Orc:4    | Killed Nessos
 25598 | Orc:4    | Found Kacuo's Armour Shop.
 25615 | Orc:4    | Found Beggoets's Distillery.
 25645 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 25646 | Orc:4    | Found Sablopat's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 25793 | Orc:4    | Found Exife's Food Shop.
 25819 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 26163 | Orc:4    | Found Ofiwomp's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 26173 | Orc:4    | Bought a glowing arbalest for 139 gold pieces
 26515 | Orc:4    | Bought the cursed +0 helmet of Purpose {rN++ rCorr} for 369 gold pieces
 27336 | D:9      | Killed Erolcha
 27446 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
 27546 | D:5      | Bought a slimy fire dragon armour for 1300 gold pieces
 27557 | D:5      | Identified the +0 fire dragon armour of Neitaups {rF++ rC- MR- Dex+9 Stlth-} (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Dungeon)
 27779 | D:11     | Noticed a wizard
 27780 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 27809 | D:11     | Killed a wizard
 27888 | D:11     | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 28199 | D:12     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 28255 | D:11     | Killed Snorg
 28525 | D:11     | Identified Usyisic's Grimoire of Plaster Cramp
 28695 | D:12     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 94/98 MP: 7/21
 29057 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 29107 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 29544 | Lair:2   | Killed Fannar
 30158 | Lair:6   | Noticed Rupert
 30187 | Lair:6   | Killed Rupert
 30629 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 30864 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 15 in Crossbows
 30884 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 30987 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 31585 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 31948 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 16. HP: 104/104 MP: 7/22
 32234 | Lair:8   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 32374 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 17 in Crossbows
 32464 | Lair:8   | Found a gateway to Hell.
 33275 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 34176 | D:13     | Reached skill level 18 in Crossbows
 35005 | D:14     | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 35018 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 35096 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 35124 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 35182 | D:15     | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
 35188 | Bazaar   | Entered a bazaar
 35188 | Bazaar   | Found Cuavot's Antique Weapon Shop.
 35200 | Bazaar   | Found Neittea's Antique Armour Shop.
 35230 | Bazaar   | Found Lanoggicwu's Distillery.
 35267 | Bazaar   | Bought the +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--} for 841 gold pieces
 35332 | D:15     | Noticed Kirke
 35362 | D:14     | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 35452 | D:15     | Killed Kirke
 36914 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 37475 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 37549 | Swamp:1  | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 37561 | Swamp:1  | Noticed Roxanne
 37583 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 109/109 MP: 7/23
 37739 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 37765 | Swamp:1  | Noticed Frances
 37837 | Swamp:1  | Killed Frances
 38778 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 38891 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 38900 | Swamp:3  | Got an iridescent triple crossbow {god gift}
 38902 | Swamp:3  | Identified the +5 triple crossbow of Sostretra {elec, rPois Int+3 Dex-2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Swamp)
 40076 | Swamp:1  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 40094 | Swamp:1  | Killed a thorn hunter
 40094 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 19 in Crossbows
 40276 | Swamp:2  | Got a pitted amber ring
 40929 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 41748 | Swamp:4  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 68/116 MP: 8/24
 41758 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 41823 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 20 in Crossbows
 42804 | Swamp:4  | Identified the ring of Xom's Entertainment {Wiz +Fly rC+} (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
 43091 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 43253 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 43276 | Snake:1  | Found a frozen archway.
 43354 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 44108 | IceCv    | Received a gift from Trog
 44187 | IceCv    | Noticed an Ice Fiend
 44298 | IceCv    | Killed an Ice Fiend
 44473 | Snake:1  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 44565 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 45262 | Snake:1  | Got a slimy helmet
 45551 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 21 in Crossbows
 46123 | Snake:3  | Noticed Vashnia
 46143 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 46498 | Snake:1  | Identified the +2 helmet "Saled" {rF+ MP+9 Int+2} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit)
 46567 | Snake:3  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 116/121 MP: 26/26
 46649 | Snake:3  | Got an iridescent falchion
 46849 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 22 in Crossbows
 47113 | Snake:3  | Noticed Aizul
 47228 | Snake:1  | Identified the cursed +1 falchion of the Blind Eye {slice, rC++ Stlth+} (You found it on level 3 of the Snake Pit)
 47686 | Snake:3  | Killed Aizul
 47851 | Snake:3  | Killed Vashnia
 48256 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 48658 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 48659 | Snake:4  | Got a dazzling arbalest {god gift}
 48670 | Snake:4  | Identified the +3 arbalest "Besiz" {velocity, MR+ Int+2 Dex+5} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 48835 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 23 in Crossbows
 49041 | Snake:4  | Noticed Mara
 49085 | Snake:4  | Noticed PollenGolem's illusion
 49154 | Snake:4  | Killed Mara
 49267 | Snake:4  | Noticed Wiglaf
 49316 | Snake:4  | Killed Wiglaf
 49794 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 24 in Crossbows
 49794 | Snake:4  | Reached XP level 20. HP: 127/127 MP: 21/27
 49919 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 50067 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 50276 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    56 |   256 |   454 |  1410 |   716 |       |       ||  2892
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |     4 |       |     1 ||     5
       Long sword        |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       ||     3
       Quick blade       |       |       |       |       |  1441 |  2722 |   206 ||  4369
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
 Fire: Hand crossbow     |    13 |    79 |    89 |   108 |    95 |     6 |       ||   390
       Arbalest          |       |       |       |       |    19 |   135 |       ||   154
       Triple crossbow   |       |       |       |       |       |   152 |   323 ||   475
Throw: Stone             |       |    42 |    19 |     7 |       |       |       ||    68
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |     6 |    11 |     2 |       ||    19
Invok: Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |     2 |     5 |       |     3 ||    10
       Berserk           |       |       |       |       |     6 |    11 |     2 ||    19
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     3 ||     6
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |    10 |     1 |     2 |       ||    13
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |    22 |    20 |     4 ||    46
       Fan of gales      |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |     3 |     1 |     7 |    16 |    13 |     2 ||    42
       Potion            |       |     2 |     4 |     4 |     3 |       |     1 ||    14
 Stab: Sleeping          |     2 |     2 |     2 |    31 |    41 |    23 |     6 ||   107
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     5 |     5 |     8 |     2 ||    20
       Confused          |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     4 |       ||     7
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |     8 |    11 |    22 |    33 |    49 |    63 |    15 ||   201
       Pizza             |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2

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Post Thursday, 14th May 2015, 08:52

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

I plan to continue the last character in a few hours. And the questions from my last post still stand. Seriously, I have no idea where to go next - help!

EDIT: Done. I'm afraid of Vaults:5 and Slime:6 but cleared all the preceding levels, and all of Crypt.
Thinking of doing depths and elf, maybe abyss since a treasure vault wants the abyssal rune.
I found a gateway to the abyss. I also have a quickblade of distortion - and a ton of enchant weapon scrolls!
Thanks for helping me escape the cursed toe!
Meanwhile, can I take on Slime:6 where I am currently? Look - tons of tele scrolls and great ranged.

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (webtiles) character file.

PollenGolem the Sniper (Kobold Hunter)             Turns: 70084, Time: 15:26:01

Health: 150/169    AC: 22    Str: 22    XL:     25   Next: 38%
Magic:  9/9        EV: 43    Int:  9    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   2140       SH:  0    Dex: 28    Spells: 0 memorised, 24 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     x - +9 quick blade (antimagic)
rCold  + + .     Clarity  +     j - +5 ring mail of Umugysum {Str+2 Dex+3 SInv}
rNeg   + + .     SustAb   .     (shield restricted)
rPois  .         Gourm    .     A - +0 helmet of Purpose {rN++ rCorr}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     g - +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
rCorr  +         Warding  .     T - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     u - +0 pair of boots {Stlth+}
MR     ++...                    K - amulet of clarity
Stlth  ++++++++..               D - ring of Xom's Entertainment {Wiz +Fly rC+}
                                E - ring of protection from magic

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy
A: blurry vision 1, carnivore 3, low mp 1, mutation resistance 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Flight
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine


You are on level 6 of the Pits of Slime.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 49 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have also visited: Sewer, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 5312 gold pieces.
You have spent 3172 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - the +5 triple crossbow of Sostretra {elec, rPois Int+3 Dex-2}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Swamp) 
 
   It charges the ammunition it shoots with electricity; occasionally upon a
   hit, such missiles may discharge and cause terrible harm.
 
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It protects you from poison.
 x - a +9 antimagic quick blade (weapon)
Missiles
 d - 98 bolts of frost
 e - 94 bolts of penetration
 w - 72 bolts of flame
 y - 946 bolts
 z - 59 poisoned bolts
 H - 26 steel bolts
 Z - 98 silver bolts
Armour
 g - the +2 cloak of Starlight (worn) {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar) 
 
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
 j - the +5 ring mail of Umugysum (worn) {Str+2 Dex+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts) 
 
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It enhances your eyesight.
 u - a +0 pair of boots of stealth (worn)
 A - the +0 helmet of Purpose (worn) {rN++ rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) 
 
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 T - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
   (You found it in an ice cave) 
 
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
Rods
 c - a +2 rod of destruction (10/10)
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 O - a +6 lightning rod (13/13)
   (You acquired it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
Jewellery
 r - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 D - the ring of Xom's Entertainment (right hand) {Wiz +Fly rC+}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp) 
 
   [ring of wizardry]
 
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It protects you from cold.
   It lets you fly.
 E - a ring of protection from magic (left hand)
 K - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 N - an uncursed amulet of regeneration
Magical devices
 h - a wand of hasting (4)
 i - a wand of digging (7)
 n - a wand of disintegration (12)
 o - a wand of draining
 G - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 2}
 M - a wand of paralysis {empty}
 S - a wand of teleportation (5)
 U - a wand of confusion (20)
Scrolls
 l - 3 scrolls of blinking
 m - 10 scrolls of fear
 s - 8 scrolls of immolation
 t - 2 scrolls of recharging
 v - 7 scrolls of fog
 F - 14 scrolls of teleportation
Potions
 a - a potion of agility
 f - 17 potions of curing
 q - 3 potions of heal wounds
 C - a potion of invisibility
 I - 6 potions of cancellation
 J - 7 potions of might
 L - 3 potions of resistance
 V - a potion of haste
Miscellaneous
 k - a fan of gales
 P - a sack of spiders
 Q - a fan of gales
 X - a stone of tremors
 Y - a lantern of shadows
Comestibles
 B - 4 beef jerkies
 R - 8 royal jellies
 W - 10 slices of pizza


   Skills:
 - Level 20.3 Fighting
 - Level 14.2(18.2) Short Blades
 - Level 24.0 Crossbows
 - Level 0.3 Throwing
 - Level 10.2 Armour
 - Level 20.1 Dodging
 - Level 20.2 Stealth
 + Level 10.6 Evocations


You have 24 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (8/8) D:11
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:5        Snake (4/4) Lair:5        Slime (6/6) Lair:6
    Orc (4/4) D:9             Elf (0/3) Orc:4        Vaults (4/5) D:13
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3     Depths (0/5) D:15       
  Tomb: Crypt:3   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Lugonu

Shops:
D:5 [   Orc:4 (!**[[(%!   Vaults:3 }

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8
Abyss: Crypt:2
Trove: D:12 (show abyssal rune of Zot)

Annotations:
D:9 Erica
Swamp:1 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne
Crypt:3 exclusions: ancient lich and guardian mummy


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
Scrolls take you a little longer to read.
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
You are somewhat resistant to further mutation.


Message History

You impale the slime creature!!
The slime creature is severely wounded.
You puncture the slime creature!
The slime creature is almost dead.
You barely miss the slime creature.
The slime creature is almost dead.
The slime creature closely misses you.
You hit the slime creature.
The slime creature is almost dead.
You puncture the slime creature!
You kill the slime creature!
Trog accepts your kill.
No target in view!
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You begin reading the scroll. You continue reading the scroll.
As you read the scroll of magic mapping, it crumbles to dust.
You feel aware of your surroundings. You sensed 1 altar.
Unknown command.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
(...)
Grand Total: 2247 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | PollenGolem, the Kobold Hunter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 12/12 MP: 1/1
   160 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Crossbows
   317 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/17 MP: 2/2
   376 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
   387 | D:1      | Killed Ijyb
   387 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 8/21 MP: 3/3
   870 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 13/26 MP: 4/4
  2557 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  2571 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 21/30 MP: 5/5
  2581 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Crossbows
  2595 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  2682 | Sewer    | Noticed stigmas's ghost (average DrTm)
  2704 | Sewer    | Noticed Purgy
  3519 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3536 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3550 | D:5      | Noticed Sigmund
  3584 | D:5      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  3587 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  3588 | D:5      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  3759 | D:4      | HP: 1/30 [hound (6)]
  3760 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  3760 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 1/35 MP: 6/6
  4089 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4165 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4625 | D:4      | Noticed Somatism's ghost (experienced OpTm)
  5287 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  5900 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Crossbows
  6204 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 33/40 MP: 7/7
  6828 | D:5      | Got a slimy flail
  6848 | D:5      | Found Giker's Antique Armour Shop.
  6854 | D:5      | Noticed a phantom
  6862 | D:5      | Noticed a phantom
  6928 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  6928 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Crossbows
  7045 | D:5      | Bought a glowing helmet for 90 gold pieces
  7045 | D:5      | Bought a runed cloak for 90 gold pieces
  7125 | D:5      | Killed a phantom
  7293 | D:5      | Identified the cursed +1 flail of Xerabboo {vamp, SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  7757 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/44 MP: 8/8
  7898 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  8348 | D:6      | Got a creamy pearl robe
  8681 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  8889 | D:6      | Got a crystal hunting sling
  8929 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  8930 | D:7      | Identified the Compendium of Confrontation and Air (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  9048 | D:7      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  9251 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 44/54 MP: 9/9
  9394 | D:7      | Identified the +0 robe of Integrity {rN+} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 10028 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
 10845 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
 10845 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 10845 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 37/64 MP: 10/10
 11403 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
 11629 | D:9      | Reached skill level 9 in Crossbows
 11629 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 11834 | D:9      | Noticed a centaur warrior
 11835 | D:9      | Killed a centaur warrior
 12012 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 11/11
 12066 | D:9      | Identified the cursed +2 hunting sling of Kismet {velocity, Dex+4} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 12108 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 12435 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Crossbows
 12607 | D:9      | Noticed Grum
 12609 | D:9      | Noticed Erica
 12693 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 13311 | D:9      | Killed Grum
 13511 | D:5      | Killed Edmund
 13588 | D:5      | Killed Sigmund
 13657 | D:5      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 13658 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 14165 | D:4      | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
 14405 | D:4      | Killed Somatism's ghost
 14605 | D:5      | Became a worshipper of Trog the Wrathful
 14721 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 14731 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 14847 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 15138 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 15194 | D:10     | Acquired Trog's first power
 15258 | D:10     | Noticed a manticore
 15266 | D:10     | Killed a manticore
 15587 | D:10     | Found a flagged portal.
 15619 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 15842 | Bailey   | Noticed an orc knight
 15844 | Bailey   | Noticed an orc knight
 15911 | Bailey   | Noticed an orc knight
 16081 | Bailey   | Killed an orc knight
 16081 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 16084 | Bailey   | Got a glittering wooden ring
 16100 | Bailey   | Killed an orc knight
 16100 | Bailey   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 77/77 MP: 12/12
 16101 | Bailey   | Killed an orc knight
 16245 | D:10     | Acquired Trog's second power
 16543 | D:11     | Noticed Snorg
 16713 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
 16885 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 17190 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 17190 | Lair:1   | Noticed Joseph
 17250 | Lair:1   | Killed Joseph
 18169 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 18392 | Lair:2   | Acquired Trog's third power
 18592 | Lair:2   | Noticed Fannar
 18868 | Lair:2   | Identified the ring "Seor" {Fire +Inv rPois MP+9 Str-4} (You found it in a bailey)
 19121 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 19121 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 60/82 MP: 13/13
 19231 | Lair:3   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 19280 | Lair:3   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 19557 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 19569 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 19834 | Lair:3   | Got a brightly glowing long sword
 20818 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 20983 | Lair:5   | Identified the +5 long sword "Newtslayer" {pain, rC++ Str-2 Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 21119 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 21451 | Lair:5   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 21517 | Lair:5   | Got a slimy ring mail
 21530 | Lair:5   | Identified the +5 ring mail of Umugysum {Str+2 Dex+3 SInv} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 21640 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 21784 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 21784 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 21853 | Lair:5   | Identified the Compendium of Entrancing Snow
 22112 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 22464 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 23009 | D:10     | Noticed an unseen horror
 23045 | D:10     | Killed an unseen horror
 23230 | Orc:1    | Noticed an orc knight
 23452 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc knight
 23452 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 86/88 MP: 17/19
 23534 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 23777 | Orc:2    | Noticed Sonja
 23783 | Orc:2    | Killed Sonja
 24204 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 25022 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 25153 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 25300 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
 25364 | Orc:4    | Found Apsi Pef's Antique Armour Emporium.
 25364 | Orc:4    | Found Kaaphoir's General Store.
 25366 | Orc:4    | Found Feurphei's Assorted Antiques.
 25366 | Orc:4    | Found Vasod's Distillery.
 25394 | Orc:4    | Bought a shiny helmet for 99 gold pieces
 25394 | Orc:4    | Bought a pair of embroidered boots for 99 gold pieces
 25397 | Orc:4    | Bought an emerald ring for 145 gold pieces
 25537 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 25559 | Orc:4    | Noticed Nessos
 25580 | Orc:4    | Killed Nessos
 25598 | Orc:4    | Found Kacuo's Armour Shop.
 25615 | Orc:4    | Found Beggoets's Distillery.
 25645 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 25646 | Orc:4    | Found Sablopat's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 25793 | Orc:4    | Found Exife's Food Shop.
 25819 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 26163 | Orc:4    | Found Ofiwomp's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 26173 | Orc:4    | Bought a glowing arbalest for 139 gold pieces
 26515 | Orc:4    | Bought the cursed +0 helmet of Purpose {rN++ rCorr} for 369 gold pieces
 27336 | D:9      | Killed Erolcha
 27446 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
 27546 | D:5      | Bought a slimy fire dragon armour for 1300 gold pieces
 27557 | D:5      | Identified the +0 fire dragon armour of Neitaups {rF++ rC- MR- Dex+9 Stlth-} (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Dungeon)
 27779 | D:11     | Noticed a wizard
 27780 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 27809 | D:11     | Killed a wizard
 27888 | D:11     | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 28199 | D:12     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 28255 | D:11     | Killed Snorg
 28525 | D:11     | Identified Usyisic's Grimoire of Plaster Cramp
 28695 | D:12     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 94/98 MP: 7/21
 29057 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 29107 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 29544 | Lair:2   | Killed Fannar
 30158 | Lair:6   | Noticed Rupert
 30187 | Lair:6   | Killed Rupert
 30629 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 30864 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 15 in Crossbows
 30884 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 30987 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 31585 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 31948 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 16. HP: 104/104 MP: 7/22
 32234 | Lair:8   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 32374 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 17 in Crossbows
 32464 | Lair:8   | Found a gateway to Hell.
 33275 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 34176 | D:13     | Reached skill level 18 in Crossbows
 35005 | D:14     | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 35018 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 35096 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 35124 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 35182 | D:15     | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
 35188 | Bazaar   | Entered a bazaar
 35188 | Bazaar   | Found Cuavot's Antique Weapon Shop.
 35200 | Bazaar   | Found Neittea's Antique Armour Shop.
 35230 | Bazaar   | Found Lanoggicwu's Distillery.
 35267 | Bazaar   | Bought the +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--} for 841 gold pieces
 35332 | D:15     | Noticed Kirke
 35362 | D:14     | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 35452 | D:15     | Killed Kirke
 36914 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 37475 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 37549 | Swamp:1  | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 37561 | Swamp:1  | Noticed Roxanne
 37583 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 109/109 MP: 7/23
 37739 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 37765 | Swamp:1  | Noticed Frances
 37837 | Swamp:1  | Killed Frances
 38778 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 38891 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 38900 | Swamp:3  | Got an iridescent triple crossbow {god gift}
 38902 | Swamp:3  | Identified the +5 triple crossbow of Sostretra {elec, rPois Int+3 Dex-2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Swamp)
 40076 | Swamp:1  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 40094 | Swamp:1  | Killed a thorn hunter
 40094 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 19 in Crossbows
 40276 | Swamp:2  | Got a pitted amber ring
 40929 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 41748 | Swamp:4  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 68/116 MP: 8/24
 41758 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 41823 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 20 in Crossbows
 42804 | Swamp:4  | Identified the ring of Xom's Entertainment {Wiz +Fly rC+} (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
 43091 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 43253 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 43276 | Snake:1  | Found a frozen archway.
 43354 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 44108 | IceCv    | Received a gift from Trog
 44187 | IceCv    | Noticed an Ice Fiend
 44298 | IceCv    | Killed an Ice Fiend
 44473 | Snake:1  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 44565 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 45262 | Snake:1  | Got a slimy helmet
 45551 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 21 in Crossbows
 46123 | Snake:3  | Noticed Vashnia
 46143 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 46498 | Snake:1  | Identified the +2 helmet "Saled" {rF+ MP+9 Int+2} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit)
 46567 | Snake:3  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 116/121 MP: 26/26
 46649 | Snake:3  | Got an iridescent falchion
 46849 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 22 in Crossbows
 47113 | Snake:3  | Noticed Aizul
 47228 | Snake:1  | Identified the cursed +1 falchion of the Blind Eye {slice, rC++ Stlth+} (You found it on level 3 of the Snake Pit)
 47686 | Snake:3  | Killed Aizul
 47851 | Snake:3  | Killed Vashnia
 48256 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 48658 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 48659 | Snake:4  | Got a dazzling arbalest {god gift}
 48670 | Snake:4  | Identified the +3 arbalest "Besiz" {velocity, MR+ Int+2 Dex+5} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 48835 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 23 in Crossbows
 49041 | Snake:4  | Noticed Mara
 49085 | Snake:4  | Noticed PollenGolem's illusion
 49154 | Snake:4  | Killed Mara
 49267 | Snake:4  | Noticed Wiglaf
 49316 | Snake:4  | Killed Wiglaf
 49794 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 24 in Crossbows
 49794 | Snake:4  | Reached XP level 20. HP: 127/127 MP: 21/27
 49919 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 50067 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 50276 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 50681 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 51180 | Slime:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 51963 | Slime:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 52832 | Slime:3  | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 52900 | Slime:3  | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [a shining eye]
 53052 | Slime:4  | Reached XP level 21. HP: 115/134 MP: 3/25
 53477 | Slime:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 54125 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 54339 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 55511 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 55897 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 57307 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 57316 | Vaults:2 | Gained mutation: Scrolls take you a little longer to read. [a cacodemon]
 57396 | Vaults:2 | Got a pitted hand crossbow {god gift}
 57397 | Vaults:2 | Identified the +8 hand crossbow "Hydrabane" {freeze, Int+4 Dex-2 SInv} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Vaults)
 57568 | Vaults:3 | Found Daoruse's Gadget Shop.
 57639 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 141/145 MP: 8/26
 57654 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 57946 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 57992 | Vaults:2 | Got an encrusted arbalest {god gift}
 57993 | Vaults:2 | Identified the +4 arbalest of Dissolution {freeze, rC+ Str+4 Int-3 Stlth+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Vaults)
 59274 | Vaults:4 | Got a transparent jade amulet
 59276 | Vaults:4 | Identified the amulet of Day {+Rage rF+} (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 59412 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 59684 | Vaults:3 | Identified a +2 rod of destruction (10/10) (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 60139 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 61377 | Vaults:4 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 61513 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 61833 | Vaults:4 | Got a crude trident
 61890 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 153/153 MP: 9/27
 62189 | Vaults:4 | Identified the cursed +2 trident "Xonoboy" {venom, Dex+3} (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 62710 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 62710 | Vaults:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 62711 | Vaults:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 62751 | Crypt:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
 63182 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Frederick
 63250 | Crypt:1  | Killed Frederick
 63394 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Donald
 63585 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Saint Roka
 63623 | Crypt:1  | Killed Saint Roka
 63708 | Crypt:1  | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 64056 | Crypt:3  | Entered Level 3 of the Crypt
 64097 | Crypt:3  | Noticed an ancient lich
 64763 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
 64887 | Crypt:3  | Got a bound brass ring
 65241 | Crypt:3  | Noticed a curse toe
 65365 | Crypt:2  | Reached XP level 24. HP: 113/161 MP: 9/27
 65472 | Crypt:1  | Killed Donald
 65473 | Crypt:1  | Killed the ghostly Donald
 65889 | Crypt:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 66014 | Crypt:3  | Killed a curse toe
 66066 | Crypt:3  | Noticed an ancient lich
 66066 | Crypt:3  | Noticed an ancient lich
 66078 | Crypt:3  | Killed an ancient lich
 66128 | Crypt:3  | Killed an ancient lich
 66169 | Crypt:3  | Got a fine ruby amulet
 66184 | Crypt:3  | Identified the Papyrus of Black Arts
 66216 | Crypt:3  | Got a steaming short sword
 66217 | Crypt:3  | Identified the +9 short sword of Yniqarph {pierce, Str+3} (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
 66523 | Crypt:3  | Identified the amulet of Xureib {Ward rPois rN+ Int+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
 66703 | Crypt:3  | Killed an ancient lich
 66703 | Crypt:3  | Reached XP level 25. HP: 166/166 MP: 11/27
 67068 | Crypt:2  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 67089 | Crypt:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 67099 | Crypt:2  | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 67556 | Crypt:1  | Got a translucent leather armour
 67567 | Crypt:1  | Identified the +2 leather armour "Jemnune" {+Fly rF+ Str+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Crypt)
 67581 | Crypt:1  | Identified the ring of Ashenzari's Favour {rF+ rN+ Dex+2} (You took it off a vampire mage on level 3 of the Crypt)
 68754 | Slime:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 69090 | Slime:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 70028 | Slime:6  | Entered Level 6 of the Pits of Slime


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    56 |   256 |   454 |  1410 |   716 |       |       |       |       ||  2892
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |     4 |       |     1 |       |       ||     5
       Long sword        |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Quick blade       |       |       |       |       |  1441 |  2722 |  2151 |  2332 |   741 ||  9387
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Triple crossbow   |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
 Fire: Hand crossbow     |    13 |    79 |    89 |   108 |    95 |     6 |       |       |       ||   390
       Arbalest          |       |       |       |       |    19 |   135 |       |       |       ||   154
       Triple crossbow   |       |       |       |       |       |   152 |   475 |   184 |     2 ||   813
Throw: Stone             |       |    42 |    19 |     7 |       |       |       |       |       ||    68
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |     6 |    11 |     2 |       |       |       ||    19
Invok: Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |     2 |     5 |       |     4 |     4 |       ||    15
       Berserk           |       |       |       |       |     6 |    11 |     7 |     8 |     2 ||    34
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     6 |     3 |       ||    12
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     2 |     2 |     1 ||     6
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |    10 |     1 |     2 |     2 |     3 |     1 ||    19
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |    22 |    20 |     4 |    11 |       ||    57
       Fan of gales      |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |     3 |     1 |     7 |    16 |    13 |     3 |     4 |     3 ||    50
       Potion            |       |     2 |     4 |     4 |     3 |       |     5 |     4 |       ||    22
 Stab: Sleeping          |     2 |     2 |     2 |    31 |    41 |    23 |    44 |    32 |     4 ||   181
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     5 |     5 |     8 |     4 |     1 |     3 ||    26
       Confused          |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     4 |       |       |       ||     7
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |     8 |     3 |       ||    13
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     8 |    11 |    22 |    33 |    49 |    63 |    38 |    37 |     8 ||   269
       Pizza             |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     3
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |     1 |     1 ||     6
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1

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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 04:07

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

TRJ is a strange fight. You can do it with the strength you have now. Generally, you can always do the TRJ fight if you can make it to him. Also Slime pits isn't a place you clear. Ain't going to find nothing but more awful worthless corrosive monsters and things that mutate you clearing. Slime pits is a dive. Get to the bottom and leave as much shit as you can on the above floor.

The thing of it is, TRJ is weak to a ton of stuff that is kinda dangerous to use. Immolation is great and he starts in the middle surrounded by smaller jellies so you can get the jump on him and bomb him but it isn't enough to kill him. It also makes a ton of noise.

Now, another thing that is really good on a char with rN like yours is torment. I don't know if you have torment scrolls, but again, you are playing with nasty magic. Torment will get him down to half but you will also torment yourself.

Also, you have a stone of tremors (which should be used to blow up your first immolation charge), a fan, trog and a sack for summons and. Why do you have two fans?

Use all your tricks for the TRJ fight, he is monstrously powerful if he gets to you. He is ultimately a really fun fight that is nearly always doable because all you really need is a couple common wands/evokables, a couple scrolls and some god abilites. However, the whole fucking zone is super dangerous with a super dangerous boss that you have some fucked up strats like "i'm going to nuke myself with torment against this super dangerous boss who hits like a train and spits out armies-- and this is a good plan."

The nature of the TRJ fight has a very unique space in crawl, and is my favorite fight in the game. But it is really dangerous, and will kill you multiple times as you get a feel for it.

However,

If you have never won the game before, do depths now. You cleared through vaults 4. Do depths. Then do vaults 5 or abyss if you know how to abyss.

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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 07:19

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OK, I will leave the royal jelly for a while, then when I come back I will:
1. haste
2. come within 6 tiles of the royal jelly
3. read !immolation
4. read !torment (I stashed these scrolls)
5. blow it all up with stone of tremors
6. read !teleportation
7. pelt the royal jelly with bolts of
a) penetration, or
b) silver (it's vulnerable to silver, but eats the bolts?)

I have this useless scroll of brand weapon, since it could not possibly give me better weapons than I already have.
I guess the only non-artifact weapon worth glancing at is a double sword, in case it is of holy wrath.

edgefigaro wrote:Why do you have two fans?
Then do vaults 5 or abyss if you know how to abyss.


I did not know that fans deplete simultaneously.
I don't know how "abyssing" is done. I assume I should make a +9 quickblade of distortion and wander around on A:3, staying out of trouble if possible, until I get a vault, and raid it. That would effectively disable my ranged abilities, but I'd be able to get rid of enemies quickly via distortion effects.
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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 08:53

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edgefigaro wrote:Generally, you can always do the TRJ fight if you can make it to him.
Well, a stealthy but weak character can sneak down all the way to the TRJ. I don't think getting to TRJ is any guarantee on that you can kill it.

But it is really dangerous, and will kill you multiple times as you get a feel for it.
Dangerous, yes, but there's no need to die if you are prepared.

Personally I've never used torment against TRJ. Also, I would fight TRJ in one of the central corridors and not teleport away. I would also summon some brothers in arms to help.
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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 10:38

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Like sprucey says, teleing is not a great part of that plan. I'd roll evokeables (rods, wand of draining/fire/similar) over bolts. You want TRJ to come to you through the fire from immolation towards your army of summons in a vault corridor. Tele away and you lose control of the fight.

You prolly do want to tele away (or just run/other escape) if you actually have lost control of the fight.

Abyss, otoh, is all about teleing early and often. Wearing a cursed ring of teleportation and an amulet of regen, just evoke your ring at first enemy you see and wander away. Repeat until you find a couple paths down and the rune vault and remember to take the tele ring off when you find the vault.

Abyssing has nothing to do with distortion weapons and everything to do with if you feel comfortable travelling through the abyss for an indefinite period of time. When I first started crawl I died nearly every time I got banished and I was terrified of the place.

Both the abyssal and slimy runes have a much lower threshold of "your character must be this strong to do this zone" than vaults, esp vaults 5. However, the threshold is only really lower if you know what you are doing, less so while you are learning. Vaults 5 is way more straight forward. There are going to be a whole bunch of endgame nasties coming at you in v5. Kill em. Kill em all.

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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 10:51

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Torment + immolation is my favourite way to kill TRJ. Needs some care though.
Distortion is good in the abyss. You can still banish or kill relatively unthreatening monsters, since it is sometimes easier to kill them than tele-ing from them.

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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 14:00

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You should read torment first, then immolation.
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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 16:12

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Pollen_Golem wrote:By the way, does shooting bolts of cold from a crossbow of electrocution make you deal cold damage, and electrocute on top of that?


As far as I know, it doesn't. The last time I checked, Nessos was the only being in the dungeon that could combine ammunition and a weapon brand.

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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 16:28

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Supposedly a vorpal or speed brand on the launcher will stack with the ammunition, otherwise ammo brands are used by preference. Edge-case where one is fire the other frost where you get no brand.
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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 17:53

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Definitely do depths before doing Vault:5 or Slime:6. I don't like KoHu with crossbows because of the -20% hp and how tough it is to use crossbows in the early game (ammo problems). You now have roughly 300 bolts, which isn't terribly high, but you're at least able to use your crossbow when you want to. Your crossbow is incredible, by the way, elec is a very good brand. It'd be nice to be higher than +5 enchanted, but don't let that get you down. Isn't min delay on triple crossbows 26 skill? You should pick up those last two levels when you can, imho.

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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 18:08

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I actually have roughly 900 bolts I forgot in a stash.

mps wrote:You should read torment first, then immolation.


Why? Does torment spawn jellies? Does immolate also wake everybody?

Anyway, resuming NOW

edit: cleared depths and paused again
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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 18:17

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

With no item weight anymore, there's no reason to ever drop ammo - base ammo, at least. If you don't have 6 slots for various brands you could drop some branded ammo.

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Post Friday, 15th May 2015, 18:19

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Pollen_Golem wrote:Why? Does torment spawn jellies?

Yes.
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Post Saturday, 16th May 2015, 00:24

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Cleared elf. Heh, the royal jelly is actually awake but trapped between sleeping slimes that it is too considerate to wake:

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Post Saturday, 16th May 2015, 00:28

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Literally all that's left in slime is this:
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Post Saturday, 16th May 2015, 00:47

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Beautiful:
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Only good things in a bazaar:
f + 324 gold a wand of digging (14)
h + 993 gold a +5 rod of ignition (13/13)
j + 1052 gold a +9 rod of clouds (11/11)
You have 3721 gold pieces. After the purchase, you will have 1352 gold pieces.
Don't even know if I want the damn rod things. I have 20 evo but also 27 xbow, you know?

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Post Saturday, 16th May 2015, 09:20

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Rod of ignition you probably want. You were making good use of your lightning rod while I watched and Ignition is quite possibly the best rod. (it fires basically a bolt of fire that creates fireball AoEs each time it hits something.)

Glad to see you stomping on the slimes, guess your Elf jaunt went well. Did you go back to the Abyss yet?
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Post Saturday, 16th May 2015, 09:55

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

With that high Evo, the rod of clouds is also very good. You'll be getting lots of negative energy, electricity and acid clouds. I'd definitely buy both.
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Post Saturday, 16th May 2015, 19:09

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Yeah, I like rod of clouds slightly better with high evo than ignition, but they are both really good.
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Mennas, what a putz. Thanks for the +2 eudemon blade of holy wrath.
If I had known, I would not have opened the box of beasts so many times.
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Post Sunday, 17th May 2015, 23:10

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Really glad to see you backing up your "stupid builds" with actually playing them and keeping us updated :) You'll learn a lot and kobold is certainly NOT one of the easier races, so you're doing quite well.

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Post Monday, 18th May 2015, 00:18

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piece of cake, recipe:
Mix a scroll of immolation with a scroll of blink in a bowl of Vaults:5
Simple yet delicious
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Post Monday, 18th May 2015, 13:37

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Note that while Immolation is fun on V:5, it does wake up a whole boatload of dudes you might rather have left sleeping. Blinking (or teleporting) past the welcoming party and luring them around the edge is, I think, usually a safer strategy.
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Post Monday, 18th May 2015, 20:51

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I quite like the combination to be honest. You come down the stairs and let off some fireworks. Bang, whizz, welcoming party up in smoke. All the heavy-hitters nearby beeline the stair.

THEN you tele out/blink and bail and life is simpler, because most of the nasty is now heading where you just were. If I dont have cTele then I prefer this way, as theres a somewhat reduced chance of me landing on a pile of doom.

Noise, the double-edged sword.

Actually man-moding it... holding the stair until nothing is in LOS, is quite risky yeah. Its still epic though.

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Post Monday, 18th May 2015, 21:16

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The character in question is pretty stealthy and could probably stab a lot of those dangerous enemies if they wouldn't be awoken.
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Post Tuesday, 19th May 2015, 18:30

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Standing over my stash with all potentially good gear already in my inventory:

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (webtiles) character file.

PollenGolem the Kobold Arbalest (KoHu)        Turns: 123932, Time: 1 , 07:58:37

HP:   187/187 (190) AC: 36    Str: 16    XL:     27
MP:   49/57         EV: 44    Int:  9    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold: 139           SH:  0    Dex: 24    Spells: 0 memorised, 26 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis .     Q - +5 triple crossbow (evade)
rCold  + + .     Clarity  .     w - +9 chain mail of Rugar {Regen+}
rNeg   + + +     SustAb   .     (shield restricted)
rPois  +         Gourm    .     A - +0 helmet of Purpose {rN++ rCorr}
rElec  +         Spirit   +     g - +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
rCorr  +         Warding  .     T - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     c - +1 pair of boots {Stlth+}
MR     ++...                    t - amulet "Yngier" {Spirit rElec rC++ MP+9 Dex-4}
Stlth  ++++++++..               u - ring of Ashenzari's Favour {rF+ rN+ Dex+2}
                                E - ring "Seor" {Fire +Inv rPois MP+9 Str-4}

@: studying 3 skills, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily
stealthy
A: carnivore 3
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility
}: 6/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver, golden, abyssal


You are on level 1 of the Vaults.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 14 branches of the dungeon, and seen 67 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 3 times.
You have visited 2 bazaars.
You have also visited: Trove, Sewer, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 11672 gold pieces.
You have spent 11533 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 e - a +9 antimagic quick blade
 F - the +8 double sword "PollenGolem's Peril" {slice, +Inv +Fly rF+ rC+}
   (You took it off a deep elf priest on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It lets you fly.
 I - a +2 eudemon blade of holy wrath
 L - the +8 hand crossbow "Hydrabane" {freeze, Int+4 Dex-2 SInv}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Vaults)   
   
   It causes projectiles fired from it to freeze those they strike, causing
   extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against
   particularly susceptible opponents. They can also slow down cold-blooded
   creatures.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It enhances your eyesight.
 M - a +5 quick blade of piercing
 Q - a +5 triple crossbow of evasion (weapon)
 R - the +5 triple crossbow of Sostretra {elec, rPois Int+3 Dex-2}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Swamp)   
   
   It charges the ammunition it shoots with electricity; occasionally upon a
   hit, such missiles may discharge and cause terrible harm.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It protects you from poison.
Missiles
 N - 178 bolts of penetration (quivered)
 O - 187 bolts of frost
 V - 115 silver bolts
 X - 98 steel bolts
Armour
 c - a +1 pair of boots of stealth (worn)
 d - a +1 buckler of protection
 g - the +2 cloak of Starlight (worn) {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
 h - a gold dragon hide
 i - the +2 helmet "Saled" {rF+ MP+9 Int+2}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 j - a +1 pair of gloves of archery
 l - a quicksilver dragon hide
 n - a shadow dragon hide
 p - a +0 shield of reflection
 q - a +1 shield of protection
 v - a storm dragon hide
 w - the +9 chain mail of Rugar (worn) {Regen+}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)   
   
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 A - the +0 helmet of Purpose (worn) {rN++ rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 B - the +7 plate armour of the Moon {MR++ Int+2 Stlth+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 G - a +2 buckler of reflection
 T - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
 Z - the +6 plate armour "Gusol" {rC- rN++ Str+3 Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
Rods
 a - a +3 iron rod (14/14)
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Vaults)
 k - a +6 lightning rod (13/13)
   (You acquired it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 o - a +9 rod of clouds (13/13)
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
 r - a +4 rod of destruction (12/12)
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 J - a +5 rod of ignition (13/13)
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
Jewellery
 t - the amulet "Yngier" (around neck) {Spirit rElec rC++ MP+9 Dex-4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)   
   
   [amulet of guardian spirit]
   
   It causes incoming damage to be split between your health and magic.
   It affects your dexterity (-4).
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 u - the ring of Ashenzari's Favour (right hand) {rF+ rN+ Dex+2}
   (You took it off a vampire mage on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 E - the ring "Seor" (left hand) {Fire +Inv rPois MP+9 Str-4}
   (You found it in a bailey)   
   
   [ring of fire]
   
   It enhances your fire magic, and weakens your ice magic.
   It affects your strength (-4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
   It lets you turn invisible.
 K - the ring of Xom's Entertainment {Wiz +Fly rC+}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It protects you from cold.
   It lets you fly.
Magical devices
 x - a wand of hasting (7)
 y - a wand of heal wounds (2)
Scrolls
 C - 3 scrolls of brand weapon
 D - 9 scrolls of enchant armour
 H - 13 scrolls of enchant weapon
 W - 14 scrolls of recharging
Potions
 s - 7 potions of mutation
 z - 2 potions of beneficial mutation
 P - a potion of cure mutation
Books
 b - a manual of Fighting
 f - a manual of Armour
 m - a manual of Short Blades
Miscellaneous
 S - a legendary deck of changes {the Potion}
 U - a legendary deck of defence {the Elixir}
 Y - a legendary deck of defence {the Elixir}


   Skills:
 + Level 24.3 Fighting
 - Level 14.2(19.7) Short Blades
 - Level 7.7(13.9) Long Blades
 O Level 27 Crossbows
 - Level 0.3 Throwing
 - Level 19.0 Armour
 O Level 27 Dodging
 O Level 27 Stealth
 - Level 7.0 Shields
 - Level 24.3 Evocations


You have 26 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (8/8) D:11
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:5        Snake (4/4) Lair:5        Slime (6/6) Lair:6
    Orc (4/4) D:9             Elf (3/3) Orc:4        Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (3/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (0/7) Hell            Geh (0/7) Hell
    Coc (0/7) Hell            Tar (0/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Lugonu

Shops:
D:5 [   Orc:4 (!**[[(%!   Elf:1 [   Vaults:3 }

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8 Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4
Abyss: Crypt:2 Depths:2 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:1 Depths:2

Annotations:
Zot:5 exclusion: door
Abyss:1 Boris, Sojobo


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.


Special thanks go out to Berder who helped save this character. It turns out that the restoring of rotted HP has been changed: now, the healing aspect of Heal Wounds is redirected towards healing rot, whatever your current HP/maxHP is. I imagined there might be some kind of difference between zapping and quaffing. Had I understood this, I would have depleted the wand so I'd have more potions and an empty wand to leave behind in my stash.

What I'm thinking to do:

1) quaff both beneficial mutations
2) draw all cards from the legendary "changes" deck
3) enchant wielded evasion triple crossbow to +9
4) go to cocytus, tartarus, dis, use the crossbow

I could keep rebranding the +5 quickblade until I get elec, but it doesn't seem to matter at this point.
I kinda wanted to go with a shield and eudemon/quickblade/rod combination, maybe the randart hand crossbow too, bringing just the penetration ammo. But, triple crossbow seems just more powerful. Oh well, maybe for Pan.
I entered a treasure trove and all it had was scrolls and manuals.
I could apply 9 scrolls of enchant armor to a gold/shadow dragon hide, but the +9 chain mail with regen seems better anyway.
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Post Tuesday, 19th May 2015, 20:25

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Well, got to Tartarus 7. Monster spawning seems to be faster than I can regenerate with regen+.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (webtiles) character file.

PollenGolem the Kobold Arbalest (KoHu)        Turns: 125363, Time: 1 , 08:14:29

HP:   41/183 (193)  AC: 36    Str: 16    XL:     27
MP:   8/19          EV: 39    Int:  9    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold: 139           SH:  0    Dex: 24    Spells: 0 memorised, 26 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis .     a - +9 quick blade (antimagic)
rCold  + + .     Clarity  .     w - +9 chain mail of Rugar {Regen+}
rNeg   + + +     SustAb   .     (shield restricted)
rPois  +         Gourm    .     A - +0 helmet of Purpose {rN++ rCorr}
rElec  +         Spirit   +     g - +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
rCorr  +         Warding  .     T - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     c - +1 pair of boots {Stlth+}
MR     ++...                    t - amulet "Yngier" {Spirit rElec rC++ MP+9 Dex-4}
Stlth  ++++++++..               u - ring of Ashenzari's Favour {rF+ rN+ Dex+2}
                                E - ring "Seor" {Fire +Inv rPois MP+9 Str-4}

@: mildly poisoned (41 -> 41), slowed, studying 2 skills, very slow, very
resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy
A: carnivore 3
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility
}: 6/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver, golden, abyssal


You are on level 7 of Tartarus.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are hungry.

You have visited 15 branches of the dungeon, and seen 73 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 3 times.
You have visited 2 bazaars.
You have also visited: Trove, Sewer, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 11672 gold pieces.
You have spent 11533 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +9 antimagic quick blade (weapon)
 b - a +8 triple crossbow of evasion
Missiles
 d - 1301 bolts (quivered)
 N - 178 bolts of penetration
 O - 197 bolts of frost
 V - 111 silver bolts
 X - 96 steel bolts
Armour
 c - a +1 pair of boots of stealth (worn)
 g - the +2 cloak of Starlight (worn) {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
 w - the +9 chain mail of Rugar (worn) {Regen+}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)   
   
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 A - the +0 helmet of Purpose (worn) {rN++ rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 T - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
Rods
 k - a +6 lightning rod (13/13)
   (You acquired it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 o - a +9 rod of clouds (13/13)
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
 r - a +4 rod of destruction (12/12)
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 J - a +5 rod of ignition (13/13)
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
 Q - a +3 iron rod (14/14)
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Vaults)
Jewellery
 t - the amulet "Yngier" (around neck) {Spirit rElec rC++ MP+9 Dex-4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)   
   
   [amulet of guardian spirit]
   
   It causes incoming damage to be split between your health and magic.
   It affects your dexterity (-4).
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 u - the ring of Ashenzari's Favour (right hand) {rF+ rN+ Dex+2}
   (You took it off a vampire mage on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 E - the ring "Seor" (left hand) {Fire +Inv rPois MP+9 Str-4}
   (You found it in a bailey)   
   
   [ring of fire]
   
   It enhances your fire magic, and weakens your ice magic.
   It affects your strength (-4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
   It lets you turn invisible.
 K - the ring of Xom's Entertainment {Wiz +Fly rC+}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It protects you from cold.
   It lets you fly.
Magical devices
 h - a wand of digging (14)
 j - a wand of teleportation (5)
 x - a wand of hasting (7)
 y - a wand of heal wounds (2)
 Y - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1}
Scrolls
 i - 6 scrolls of blinking
 l - 32 scrolls of identify
 m - a scroll of magic mapping
 G - 9 scrolls of fog
 I - 7 scrolls of holy word
 M - 16 scrolls of teleportation
Potions
 n - a potion of haste
 p - 4 potions of resistance
 q - 9 potions of cancellation
 s - 28 potions of curing
 z - 5 potions of heal wounds
 B - 11 potions of restore abilities
 L - 14 potions of might
Books
 e - a manual of Fighting
 f - a manual of Armour
Miscellaneous
 v - the horn of Geryon
 C - a lamp of fire
 D - a phial of floods
 P - a box of beasts
 R - a lantern of shadows
Comestibles
 F - 10 slices of pizza


   Skills:
 + Level 25.4 Fighting
 - Level 14.2(19.7) Short Blades
   Level 7.7(13.9) Long Blades
 O Level 27 Crossbows
 - Level 0.3 Throwing
 - Level 19.0 Armour
 O Level 27 Dodging
 O Level 27 Stealth
   Level 7.0 Shields
 - Level 24.3 Evocations


You have 26 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (8/8) D:11
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:5        Snake (4/4) Lair:5        Slime (6/6) Lair:6
    Orc (4/4) D:9             Elf (3/3) Orc:4        Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (3/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (0/7) Hell            Geh (0/7) Hell
    Coc (0/7) Hell            Tar (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Lugonu

Shops:
D:5 [   Orc:4 (!**[[(%!   Elf:1 [   Vaults:3 }

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8 Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4
Abyss: Crypt:2 Depths:2 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:1 Depths:2

Annotations:
Zot:5 exclusion: door
Abyss:1 Boris, Sojobo


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.


Message History

You hit the harpy skeleton. You are engulfed in dark miasma.
You feel your flesh rotting away!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The harpy skeleton completely misses you. x2
You puncture the harpy skeleton!
You destroy the harpy skeleton!
You are engulfed in dark miasma.
You feel your flesh rotting away!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel sick.
You feel sick.
You feel sick.
Things that are here:
a chain mail; a great sword
You feel sick.
You see here a scythe of venom.
You feel sick.
You feel sick.
There is a gateway to Hell here.
Saving game... please wait.

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Post Tuesday, 19th May 2015, 20:45

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

If regeneration is really the problem, use trog's hand more freely. It's roughly the same as three regen+ artefacts, if I recall and that hasn't changed lately. If that isn't enough, something is probably going wrong tactically.

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Post Tuesday, 19th May 2015, 20:48

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Quickblade and no slaying look hard...
It reminded me recent thread "let's make Hell 1-6 harder, it's too easy after clearing a Zig with Fire Storm, Glaciate and Necromutation" ;)

Edit. I usually use a Long Blade in extended with Ko/Ha, you even have some 14 skill levels there.

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Post Tuesday, 19th May 2015, 21:26

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Yeah, antimagic quickblade is undesirable, especially with spirit shield and 50+ MP.
OK, got the bony rune quite smoothly. Ereshkigal used healing but not silence.
Digging is absolutely necessary for the other vaults in tartarus:7.
EDIT: finally cleared Hells, want to do Pan later with the following setup:
(it's probably a little weaker than my previous setup, but Pan is weaker than Hell)

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (webtiles) character file.

PollenGolem the Kobold Arbalest (KoHu)        Turns: 138908, Time: 1 , 14:00:07

HP:   187/187 (199) AC: 57    Str: 18    XL:     27
MP:   44/58         EV: 28    Int:  9    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold: 1171          SH: 13    Dex: 22    Spells: 0 memorised, 26 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis .     a - +9 eudemon blade (holy)
rCold  + + .     Clarity  .     F - +10 crystal plate armour
rNeg   + + +     SustAb   .     q - +1 shield {AC+3}
rPois  +         Gourm    .     d - +0 helmet of Purpose {rN++ rCorr}
rElec  +         Spirit   +     g - +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
rCorr  +         Warding  .     T - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     c - +1 pair of boots {Stlth+}
MR     +++..                    t - amulet "Yngier" {Spirit rElec rC++ MP+9 Dex-4}
Stlth  ++++......               u - ring of Ashenzari's Favour {rF+ rN+ Dex+2}
                                E - ring "Seor" {Fire +Inv rPois MP+9 Str-4}

@: studying Short Blades, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy
A: carnivore 3, clumsy 1, magic resistance 1, strong 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility
}: 10/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver, golden, iron, obsidian,
icy, bone, abyssal


You are on level 1 of the Vaults.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are full.

You have visited 18 branches of the dungeon, and seen 93 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 3 times.
You have visited 2 bazaars.
You have also visited: Trove, Sewer, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 14486 gold pieces.
You have spent 13245 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +9 eudemon blade of holy wrath (weapon)
 b - a +9 quick blade of electrocution
 N - a +9 antimagic quick blade
 P - the +9 hand crossbow of Conformity {freeze, Dex+3}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 7 of Gehenna)   
   
   It causes projectiles fired from it to freeze those they strike, causing
   extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against
   particularly susceptible opponents. They can also slow down cold-blooded
   creatures.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
Missiles
 e - 132 bolts of penetration
 V - 110 silver bolts
 X - 63 steel bolts
Armour
 c - a +1 pair of boots of stealth (worn)
 d - the +0 helmet of Purpose (worn) {rN++ rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 g - the +2 cloak of Starlight (worn) {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
 q - a +1 shield of protection (worn)
 F - a +10 crystal plate armour (worn)
 T - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
Rods
 k - a +6 lightning rod (13/13)
   (You acquired it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 l - a +5 rod of ignition (13/13)
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
 o - a +9 rod of clouds (13/13)
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
 r - a +9 rod of destruction (16/16)
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 Q - a +3 iron rod (14/14)
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Vaults)
Jewellery
 t - the amulet "Yngier" (around neck) {Spirit rElec rC++ MP+9 Dex-4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)   
   
   [amulet of guardian spirit]
   
   It causes incoming damage to be split between your health and magic.
   It affects your dexterity (-4).
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 u - the ring of Ashenzari's Favour (right hand) {rF+ rN+ Dex+2}
   (You took it off a vampire mage on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 w - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
 E - the ring "Seor" (left hand) {Fire +Inv rPois MP+9 Str-4}
   (You found it in a bailey)   
   
   [ring of fire]
   
   It enhances your fire magic, and weakens your ice magic.
   It affects your strength (-4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
   It lets you turn invisible.
Magical devices
 m - a wand of digging (5)
 p - a wand of disintegration (12)
 v - a wand of teleportation (5)
 x - a wand of hasting (5)
Scrolls
 i - 6 scrolls of blinking
 j - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 n - 2 scrolls of silence
 s - 9 scrolls of recharging
 z - 12 scrolls of identify
 B - 12 scrolls of immolation
 G - 9 scrolls of fog
 I - 4 scrolls of holy word
 M - 15 scrolls of teleportation
 W - 2 scrolls of summoning
Potions
 f - 6 potions of agility
 h - 30 potions of curing
 C - 4 potions of resistance
 D - 8 potions of restore abilities
 L - 15 potions of might
Books
 H - a manual of Short Blades
Miscellaneous
 y - a legendary deck of changes {Placid Magic, drawn: 1}
 J - the horn of Geryon
 K - a legendary deck of defence {the Elixir, drawn: 2}
 O - a legendary deck of defence {the Shadow, drawn: 3}
 R - a sack of spiders
 S - a sack of spiders
 U - a sack of spiders {used: 3}
 Y - a disc of storms
 Z - a lantern of shadows
Comestibles
 A - 22 meat rations


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 + Level 14.4(19.9) Short Blades
 - Level 7.7(13.9) Long Blades
 O Level 27 Crossbows
 - Level 0.3 Throwing
 - Level 26.6 Armour
 O Level 27 Dodging
 O Level 27 Stealth
 + Level 7.1 Shields
 O Level 27 Evocations
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Post Thursday, 21st May 2015, 20:06

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Looks like my first Pan rune will be the demonic one:
[question: how can I make it so that the full attached image shows, without the scroll bar?]
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Do Pan Lords always know your location? I teleported earlier, and the Pan Lord found me after a few turns, but nobody else did.

So I saw this Pan Lord approaching me and read teleportation. In the few turns before it kicked in, I took half its health and saw that it was an easy fight. In retrospect, I should have zapped myself with a tele wand to cancel the teleport. But I didn't, and teleported several tiles away, where I am now ^, in view of six Hellions while I'm at 53 HP. Normally I would read a scroll of blinking/fog/holyword, but I was recently mutated to have Blurry Vision, again. Also, I am frozen - encased in ice - from the mighty blast of ice the Pan Lord conjured. The options I see for my next turn are:
1)draw the Elixir card and kick ass
2)move NE, hope black smoke obscures LOS
3)quaff heal wounds
4)wield Lantern of Shadows
5)draw the Placid Magic card - I don't know if this will prevent the hellions from using hellfire on me
6)evoke the disc of storms (at evo 27) - maybe rain clouds will form above lava and make tons of smoke

P.S. bug alert: In the fight with Dispater, he zapped himself with teleport so much that eventually the description said he was "carrying a wand, empty". Even after this, he managed to zap himself, start looking strangely unstable, and eventually disappear. After dying he left a single empty wand of teleportation. Somebody might want to look into this, see if it's reproducible.

EDIT: I guess this bug was fixed in early May: "Monsters can no longer zap empty wands & leave them with negative charges."

Oh, and I now have hard proof that ammo brands stack with launcher brands:
  Code:
You shoot a bolt of penetration.
The bolt of penetration pierces through the cacodemon!!!
The bolt of penetration freezes the cacodemon!
You kill the cacodemon!
Trog accepts your kill.
The bolt of penetration pierces through the monstrous demonspawn.
The bolt of penetration freezes the monstrous demonspawn.

Can some of the more experienced Webtile users please say when the peak hours of playing/spectating are?
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Post Thursday, 21st May 2015, 20:20

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Sorry, I don't see how you can be safe if those Hellions cast Hellfire and/or Pan lord casts Glaciate again. Entering Pan with blurry vision was a mistake IMHO

Edit. Peak depends on server and I believe it is usually evening in corresponding time zone.
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Post Thursday, 21st May 2015, 20:39

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

I got Blurry Vision literally on this level, a hundred turns ago (by that pierced/frozen cacodemon)

s-z is Eastern Time, so like 6pm to 12am there?

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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 13:34

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Pollen_Golem wrote:Oh, and I now have hard proof that ammo brands stack with launcher brands:
  Code:
You shoot a bolt of penetration.
The bolt of penetration pierces through the cacodemon!!!
The bolt of penetration freezes the cacodemon!
You kill the cacodemon!
Trog accepts your kill.
The bolt of penetration pierces through the monstrous demonspawn.
The bolt of penetration freezes the monstrous demonspawn.

Can some of the more experienced Webtile users please say when the peak hours of playing/spectating are?

I think this is unique to penetration. Certainly there are luancher/ammo brand combos that do not stack.

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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 13:39

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Builds Public Series

Pollen_Golem wrote:I got Blurry Vision literally on this level, a hundred turns ago (by that pierced/frozen cacodemon)

s-z is Eastern Time, so like 6pm to 12am there?


Ok, then entering Pan as spell-less character (thus no CBlink) without rMut and enough potions of cure mutation was a mistake. It is possible to land right into that Hellion Island when entering a new Pan level so every character should have a plan for such situation. If the plan is missing or is not perfect, there is a player mistake.

Yes, there are many games on s-z during 6PM-11PM Eastern Time.

PS. Did the character survive?

Edit. Velocity/speed/penetration launchers stack with ammo, flaming/freezing/electro/holy ones don't.
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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 15:00

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

The character hasn't budged. Oh, and it was a freezing launcher that stacked with penetration ammo.
Will it still be possible to land into that Hellion Island after getting the demonic rune and leaving the level?
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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 16:01

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

Will it still be possible to land into that Hellion Island after getting the demonic rune and leaving the level?

Yeah, it is possible to drop into the hellion island floor
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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 16:10

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

Eyesburn wrote:
Will it still be possible to land into that Hellion Island after getting the demonic rune and leaving the level?

Yeah, it is possible to drop into the hellion island floor

You mean it's possible to get multiple Hellion Islands?
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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 17:31

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

Not sure about multiple hellion islands, but think you can't get more then one;
once I got demonic rune on some random floor, and few floors after I dropped near hellion island, so I just skipped it
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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 17:46

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

Regardless of whether you can see Hellion Island more than once (I think you can't) you can skip it and get the demonic rune somewhere else.

Regarding your current situation: yuck.
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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 17:48

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

Eyesburn wrote:Not sure about multiple hellion islands, but think you can't get more then one;
once I got demonic rune on some random floor, and few floors after I dropped near hellion island, so I just skipped it


Yes, if you already have demonic rune, the Hellion Island will not contain the rune but nothing prevents the island from being generated. As far as I remember I got some useful item instead of rune there.

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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 19:20

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

For getting out of your current situation: The elixir card is a full heal over a few turns? I'm not terribly familiar with all of the cards. It's a legendary deck, and you have 27 evocations. This seems like it's probably your best first turn. You will only get 20-30 hp a turn from it I think, I'm not sure exactly how much. Still, it should hopefully be enough to survive the hellfires - they may walk, not cast through each other, etc. Of course if they all roll the smite targeted hellfire, there's nothing you can do. Assuming their damage output is low enough, the question then becomes:

1) walk a step away/hope for smoke and diminished LOS of hellion island
2) Quaff heal wounds to further help elixir heal you
3) read the blinking scroll, wait a turn for it to kick in, and escape

The problem I have with #1 is that you're far, far too close to hellion island. If you could see say 3-4 tiles of the island, taking a step away would remove a lot of that potential damage. But you're seeing 3-4 rows in, which is quite far. In some good news, if you miraculously had two turns, you could go north east, then north, and that wall would help block most of the island from view. But that seems like a stretch.

So, after taking elixir, watch you hp closely. Looks like you're currently at around 35/180, give or take. After elixir, if:

A) your hp goes up decently, say 50+ range - try plan 3 or plan 2
B) hp stays mostly the same - try plan 2
C) Hp goes down - try plan 1. Note that plan 1 is not terribly likely to save you and this is a desperation move. You're mostly hoping for smoke to prevent further hellfires.

Even in case A, I might be tempted to take a heal wounds before reading blinking. I guess it comes to how strong elixir is, which I don't know. I'm basing this advice on the assumption it's strong enough to actually help you in this case. I don't think your other options are all that much better.

Like all medical advice, you should probably get a second opinion before acting :)

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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 20:44

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

After drawing the elixir, I got hellfired once and went from 53 HP to 56 HP. I'm not frozen anymore either, so moving NE is likely the best next move. Quaffing heal wounds is probably counterproductive because I'm rotted by 12 HP (how? what in Pan can rot living characters?) so the first HW won't help me much - it will redirect the restoring of HP into reversing rot. Elixir seems to ignore rot and heal you right through it, because I haven't had any rot restored by Elixir this turn.
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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 20:51

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

If that is the demonic rune blink away, heal, and changed levels. the demonic rune will spawn later if you don't pick it up. If not, link away and lure the Hellions into 1v1. You don't need blinking if you can break LOS with all but one of them in a single step, but I don't see how that is possible. Don't F*** around with hellfire, I lost a character with 14 runes to it.
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Post Friday, 22nd May 2015, 20:57

Re: CiP, Pollen Golem's Stupid Build Public Series--Pan Hand

If you land directly on Hellion Island, you can just kill them all. Kill the pan lord last.

At least, I think this still work.
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