God of Avoidance


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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 19:44

God of Avoidance

Greatest Victory. Battle not Fought.

This god is the opposite of Cheibriados. The fast god of space!
If this god was approved; I'd want Rings of Tele and cTele and the cTele spell removed along with its creation. Also would consider removing cBlink as well.

Piety gained:
Exploration. You also gain XP via Exploration.

Piety lost:
Waiting, Kills. You also Lose XP on Kills.

Benefits: Uses Translocations instead of Invocations.
  • [0] Your movement speeds up, as your attack potential decreases. (Increases your movement speed, applies negative slaying to everything, including damaging spells and the attacks of your summons with piety).
  • ** Controlled Blink - Normal controlled Blink, maximum distance you can blink varies with piety (full LoS at *****, 3 tiles when first unlocked). (Active, 2-7MP, Small-Medium Piety [Cost varies with distance])
  • *** Teleport - A normal random teleport, good luck. (Active, 6MP, Small Piety)
  • *** God Gifts (Ammo) - God gives dispersal branded ammo. (Less frequently than Trog/Okawaru, but guaranteed semi-good brand).
  • **** Stasis Field - Creates a silence-like aura that forces everything within to have stasis. Cancels distortion effects (except unwield); forbids banishment. Also prevents anything from blinking into it. (Enemies outside of the aura can't target Portal Projectile into it. Make's guardian serpents 'blink allies encircle' send things to just outside the aura, etc. etc.) (Active, 5 MP, Small Piety )
  • **** Blink on Hit - When you melee hit something, you automatically 'blink far' using a similar random scattering to when enemies do this (Blink Frogs and Phantoms).
  • ***** Controlled Teleport - A controlled teleport to anywhere on the map. Teleport is more exact than a current cTele + Ring of Tele teleport. (Active, 12MP, Huge Piety).

Was thinking about the discussion of removing 'Teleport on tap' and having thoughts about moving it to a god slot. Go that's focus is making you able to avoid the worst battles and better at kiting, but horrible at melee seemed like a potentially interesting idea.
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 19:50

Re: God of Avoidance

All I can say is I'd avoid this God!!!

seriously blink on hit seems more like a conduct than a 5* ability
take it easy

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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 20:12

Re: God of Avoidance

This god mostly replicates existing effects and makes them cheaper/easier to use. You get free boots of running that stacks with boots of running, and you get CBlink as a ** ability instead of level 7 spell. Your melee becomes one of the effects of a distortion weapon.

On top of that, you receive a penalty to the one type of attacks that aren't easy to kite with, meaning that in addition to being a stack of OP effects, it also encourages kiting gameplay, which many have suggested is tedious and unfun.

FWIW, the current implementation of stasis does not block banishment or distortion effects or Lugonu-blinking (IIRC on the last one).
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 20:35

Re: God of Avoidance

Lasty wrote:Your melee becomes one of the effects of a distortion weapon.
Distortion Weapons don't cause you to blink. O_O;

And yes, that's the entire idea, moving those abilities to god-slot only and making them harder to use. See...the piety decay is fast enough to be a 'no waiting' conduct on top of the 'no melee' conduct.
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 20:36

Re: God of Avoidance

Maybe you should make a consolidated ideas thread like File200's one. It seems like every day new bcadren proposal thread.
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 20:54

Re: God of Avoidance

bcadren wrote:
Lasty wrote:Your melee becomes one of the effects of a distortion weapon.
Distortion Weapons don't cause you to blink. O_O;
YOU ARE WRONG.

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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 20:56

Re: God of Avoidance

XTAHUA wrote:
bcadren wrote:
Lasty wrote:Your melee becomes one of the effects of a distortion weapon.
Distortion Weapons don't cause you to blink. O_O;
YOU ARE WRONG.
They cause enemies to blink, not you unless that was changed in trunk.
I'm beginning to feel like a Cat God! Felid streaks: {FeVM^Sif Muna, FeWn^Dithmenos, FeAr^Pakellas}, {FeEE^Ashenzari, FeEn^Gozag, FeNe^Sif Muna, FeAE^Vehumet...(ongoing)}
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 20:57

Re: God of Avoidance

A DISTORTION WEAPON CAN MAKE YOU BLINK IF YOU GET HIT BY IT. DUH.
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 21:01

Re: God of Avoidance

Cheibriados says; "Take it easy."
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 21:01

Re: God of Avoidance

I wouldn't want to blink every time I hit someone.
I personally don't understand blink frogs/dispersal arrows. All they do is extend battles.
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 21:04

Re: God of Avoidance

Klown wrote:I wouldn't want to blink every time I hit someone.
I personally don't understand blink frogs/dispersal arrows. All they do is extend battles.

And make you tab out of your killing hole to your death.
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 21:05

Re: God of Avoidance

Since kiting is so evil. I fixed it. You can't kite with this god anymore.
I'm beginning to feel like a Cat God! Felid streaks: {FeVM^Sif Muna, FeWn^Dithmenos, FeAr^Pakellas}, {FeEE^Ashenzari, FeEn^Gozag, FeNe^Sif Muna, FeAE^Vehumet...(ongoing)}

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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 21:16

Re: God of Avoidance

Klown wrote:I personally don't understand blink frogs/dispersal arrows. All they do is extend battles.


Blink frogs would be a lot more dangerous if they didn't blink. It's an effective way to balance a monster that is quick, does a lot of damage, and appears in packs.
Dispersal arrows are really good. You can shoot normal arrows at a monster, blink it away when it comes into melee range, then rinse and repeat. If you have enough dispersal arrows) you'll never have to stand next to a dangerous melee-only monster if you don't want to. You are extending the amount of time you are damaging an opponent while it can't damage you.

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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 21:46

Re: God of Avoidance

you cant just berserk tab blink frogs, also, and thats good.
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Post Monday, 19th May 2014, 21:48

Re: God of Avoidance

bcadren wrote:Since kiting is so evil. I fixed it. You can't kite with this god anymore.

Unfortunately, kiting is much too deeply embedded into Crawl for that.
The game would need a base-level structural overhaul to get rid of it, and the strain on devteam resources, not to mention the resulting player whining, makes that highly unlikely.

To the extent that you'd stand and fight anything with this god, tedious kiting with launchers/polearms would remain the optimal way to do it, probably even more so than normal.
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Post Tuesday, 20th May 2014, 01:22

Re: God of Avoidance

If Lugonu and a Spriggan got married, this god would be their baby.

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Post Tuesday, 20th May 2014, 01:29

Re: God of Avoidance

bcadren wrote:Since kiting is so evil. I fixed it. You can't kite with this god anymore.


Well, if you don't want/like to kite, don't kite. Why make it mandatory?
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Post Tuesday, 20th May 2014, 06:20

Re: God of Avoidance

TehDruid wrote:
Klown wrote:I wouldn't want to blink every time I hit someone.
I personally don't understand blink frogs/dispersal arrows. All they do is extend battles.

And make you tab out of your killing hole to your death.

Have you tried using ctrl+tab (for webtiles players, make a ===hit_closest_nomove macro) instead of tab?

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Post Tuesday, 20th May 2014, 12:28

Re: God of Avoidance

bcadren wrote:See...the piety decay is fast enough to be a 'no waiting' conduct on top of the 'no melee' conduct.


Oh, I missed that you lose piety and XP on kills. That makes this a lot more like the god of wind incomplete proposal I made a while back.
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Post Wednesday, 21st May 2014, 11:04

Re: God of Avoidance

XTAHUA wrote:
bcadren wrote:
Lasty wrote:Your melee becomes one of the effects of a distortion weapon.
Distortion Weapons don't cause you to blink. O_O;
YOU ARE WRONG.


excuse me sir

excuse me

ahem

Uh.. I see that you are a dragon and all, but you're just the door keeper in my army that shouts "WELCOME", "OUR KING VC IS NOT IN, "YOU SHALL NOT PASS", "PLEASE REFER WAR MATTERS TO NOPE", "I LIKE CAKE".

and uh.. I was just wondering what the **** are you doing out of your post. Like seriously none of the other dragons can open doors, we kinda need you.

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Post Wednesday, 21st May 2014, 11:35

Re: God of Avoidance

Oh wait, *you* are the King of Dragons? I never realized, because your avatar kind of looks like um, well, a pig. No offense meant of course.
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Post Wednesday, 21st May 2014, 14:51

Re: God of Avoidance

???, God of procrastination;

??? says: Go, playername! Find the Orb of Zot! ...but not before scumming 25 ziggs for pointless loot.
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Post Wednesday, 21st May 2014, 14:53

Re: God of Avoidance

TehDruid wrote:???, God of procrastination;


every god in crawl is secretly a god of procrastination
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Post Wednesday, 21st May 2014, 14:56

Re: God of Avoidance

???, God of prostitution;

??? says: Go playername, fetch the Orb of Zot! And you better make me some god damn money while doing that too.

I do realize that in the absence of Grimm this (admittedly derailing) comment is not going to provoke as much word play as it should.
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Post Thursday, 22nd May 2014, 22:26

Re: God of Avoidance

DracheReborn wrote:Oh wait, *you* are the King of Dragons? I never realized, because your avatar kind of looks like um, well, a pig. No offense meant of course.


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