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Post Friday, 7th March 2014, 15:51

CIP -> YASD DsMo - early elec dagger and a switch

Edit 2: YASD. Slain by my own hubris through the agency of a player ghost in an ice cave.
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-3127-g5fcec12 (console) character file.

12551 zogre the Covert (level 11, -10/78 (79) HPs)
             Began as a Demonspawn Monk on Mar 7, 2014.
             Was an Elder of Ashenzari.
             Mangled by mdk's ghost (20 damage)
             ... in an ice cave.
             The game lasted 00:59:09 (14179 turns).

zogre the Covert (Demonspawn Monk)                 Turns: 14179, Time: 00:59:09

HP -10/78 (79)   AC 16     Str 13      XL: 11   Next: 55%
MP  11/11        EV 15     Int 13      God: Ashenzari [****..]
Gold 634         SH  0     Dex 16      Spells:  1 memorised,  9 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     b - +1,+3 dagger (elec) (curse)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  +     c - +3 ring mail
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rCorr    .     (no helmet)
rElec  .         rRot     .     C - +0 cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     i - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     (no boots)
Saprov + . .     Stasis   .     (no amulet)
MR     +....                    F - ring of protection from magic
                                o - +4 ring of protection

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: repulsion field 1, nightstalker 1, saprovore 1
a: Scrying, Renounce Religion


You were in an ice cave.
You worshipped Ashenzari.
Ashenzari was greatly pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 12 of its levels.
You also visited: Bailey and Ice Cave.

You collected 634 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a cursed +1,+3 dagger of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
 f - 29 stones
 y - 6 tomahawks of returning (quivered)
 H - 2 throwing nets
Armour
 c - a +3 ring mail (worn)
 i - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 C - a +0 cloak (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of fire (3)
 B - a wand of cold (0)
 G - a wand of random effects (3)
Comestibles
 h - a lemon
 k - 3 meat rations
 l - 6 strawberries
 p - 9 bread rations
 q - an apple
 z - a snozzcumber
 I - 6 beef jerkies
Scrolls
 n - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 r - 2 scrolls of noise
 x - a scroll of recharging
 E - a scroll of amnesia
 J - a scroll of enchant armour
Jewellery
 o - a +4 ring of protection (left hand)
 A - a cursed ring of teleportation
 F - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
Potions
 m - a potion of brilliance
Books
 t - a book of Burglary   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Apportation                       Translocation                1
   Swiftness                          Charms/Air                   2
   Passwall                           Transmutation/Earth          3
   Passage of Golubria                Translocation                4
   Lee's Rapid Deconstruction         Earth                        5
   Darkness                           Hexes                        7


   Skills:
 - Level 5.1 Fighting
 - Level 8.2(11.7) Short Blades
 + Level 8.2 Armour
 + Level 7.4 Dodging
 - Level 10.0 Stealth
 - Level 5.0 Unarmed Combat


You had 9 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Apportation           Tloc           #.........   38%         1    ##.....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/16)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (0/4) D:10
   Lair (0/8) D:10       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:10 ?

Annotations:
IceCv exclusion: 2 ice statues, mdk's ghost, powerful GrFi


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).
You are slightly more attuned to the shadows.
You can tolerate rotten meat.


Message History

Aim: mdk's ghost (severely damaged)
The puff of flame misses mdk's ghost. Mdk's ghost hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Zapping: G - a wand of random effects {zapped: 7}
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - mdk's ghost
Aim: mdk's ghost (severely damaged)
The bolt of fire hits mdk's ghost. Mdk's ghost resists.
Mdk's ghost is almost destroyed.
Mdk's ghost hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Zapping: G - a wand of random effects {zapped: 8}
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - mdk's ghost
Aim: mdk's ghost (almost destroyed)
Mdk's ghost resists with almost no effort.
Mdk's ghost hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Mdk's ghost hits you!
You die...

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You could see mdk's ghost.

Vanquished Creatures
  3 hill giants (D:10)
  Psyche (D:10)
  A feature mimic (D:10)
  A troll (D:9)
  A hydra skeleton (D:10)
  A wyvern (D:9)
  5 yaks (D:10)
  Eustachio (D:4)
  2 hippogriffs (D:9)
  Edmund (D:4)
  A hungry ghost (D:6)
  Menkaure (D:4)
  A porcupine (D:10)
  A necrophage (D:6)
  A tengu zombie (D:10)
  3 water moccasins
  6 orc warriors
  3 sky beasts
  2 black bears
  A yellow wasp (D:9)
  14 ice beasts
  5 phantoms
  10 centaurs
  Sigmund (D:3)
  7 ogres
  A giant slug (D:8)
  A crocodile (D:10)
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  6 giant frogs
  8 killer bees
  A yak zombie (D:7)
  A goliath beetle (D:6)
  4 wights
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:6)
  5 crimson imps
  A giant frog skeleton (D:6)
  7 orc priests
  Crazy Yiuf (D:7)
  2 gnoll shamans (D:8)
  3 jellies
  10 orc wizards
  9 hounds
  2 iguanas
  7 worker ants
  Terence (D:3)
  27 gnolls
  14 adders
  2 orc skeletons
  An inept feature mimic (D:10)
  8 worms
  2 giant eyeballs
  4 giant geckos
  35 orcs
  5 giant cockroaches
  23 goblins
  17 hobgoblins
  3 quokkas
  12 bats
  7 giant newts
  A giant newt skeleton (D:5)
  A giant spore (D:10)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5)
  21 jackals
  A jackal skeleton (D:4)
  A jackal zombie (D:7)
  33 kobolds
  A kobold skeleton (D:8)
  A quokka skeleton (D:8)
  21 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:5)
  A rat zombie (D:8)
  4 ballistomycetes (D:10)
  A fungus (D:7)
395 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 killer bees (D:10)
  An orc (D:10)
  A giant spore (D:10)
  A ballistomycete (D:10)
5 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 400 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | zogre, the Demonspawn Monk, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   346 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
   428 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2). [demonic ancestry]
   428 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 21/24 MP: 2/2
  1418 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/29 MP: 3/3
  1745 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2111 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You can tolerate rotten meat. [demonic ancestry]
  2111 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/35 MP: 4/4
  2248 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  2727 | D:3      | Noticed Terence
  2751 | D:3      | Killed Terence
  2818 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2823 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You are slightly more attuned to the shadows. [demonic ancestry]
  2823 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 26/41 MP: 5/5
  2838 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  2847 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  2853 | D:4      | Noticed a centaur
  3127 | D:4      | Killed a centaur
  3214 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  3214 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 40/47 MP: 6/6
  3271 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3271 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  3414 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 35/52 MP: 7/7
  3431 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades
  3463 | D:4      | Killed Eustachio
  3682 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3685 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3717 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3717 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Short Blades
  4001 | D:3      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  4084 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  4099 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
  4099 | D:3      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 40/58 MP: 8/8
  4418 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  4440 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  4660 | D:4      | Noticed Blork the orc
  4667 | D:4      | Killed Blork the orc
  4712 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  4875 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4889 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Short Blades
  4995 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5014 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5112 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  5112 | Temple   | Acquired Ashenzari's first power
  5370 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  6168 | D:6      | Identified the +12,+11 cutlass "Ofidof" {slice, rF- Dex+2}
  6243 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 65/65 MP: 9/9
  6906 | D:7      | Found a flagged portal.
  6941 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6970 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
  7277 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  7825 | Bailey   | What I want to know, is what sadistic bastard designed this vault
  8166 | D:7      | Got the uncursed scale mail of Action {rC++ Str+2}
  8179 | D:7      | Identified the +1 scale mail of Action {rC++ Str+2} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  8432 | D:7      | Acquired Ashenzari's second power
  8436 | D:7      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  8736 | D:7      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  8745 | D:7      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  8862 | D:8      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  9363 | D:8      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  9476 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth
  9488 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 52/73 MP: 10/10
 10449 | D:9      | Paralysed by a yellow wasp for 3 turns
 10811 | D:9      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 10907 | D:9      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 11003 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 11680 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11680 | D:10     | Acquired Ashenzari's third power
 11784 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 11973 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 12000 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 12000 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 12227 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 12303 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12541 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 12554 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 12554 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 70/78 MP: 11/11
 12739 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 12756 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 12791 | D:10     | Found Omamm's Magic Scroll Emporium.
 12801 | D:10     | Noticed Psyche
 12809 | D:10     | Killed Psyche
 13702 | D:10     | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 13730 | D:11     | Found a frozen archway.
 13755 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 14002 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice statue
 14002 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice statue
 14154 | IceCv    | Noticed mdk's ghost (powerful GrFi)
 14179 | IceCv    | Mangled by mdk's ghost


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    84 |       |       |       ||    84
       Mace              |    38 |       |       |       ||    38
       Dagger            |    16 |   135 |   651 |   542 ||  1344
Throw: Stone             |    68 |     9 |     5 |       ||    82
       Tomahawk          |       |       |     5 |     7 ||    12
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     2 |    20 ||    22
  Use: Scroll            |     8 |     5 |    11 |     4 ||    28
       Potion            |       |     4 |     5 |     5 ||    14
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |    23 |    14 ||    38
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 ||     1

EDIT 1:
Spoiler: show
As soon as I made the switch to the elec dagger, Crawl proceeded to amp up the fun. So far, through liberal use of consumables I've managed to survive. Got Nightstalker which meant I go Ashenzari. Menakure cursed my dagger when he died, making Ash an even better choice. Took Ash at the Temple and I'm starting to get rolling.

New questions!

I am traditionally bad at stealth characters - how high should I go with Stealth? Nightstalker will probably take care of keeping me hidden, but stabbing's a thing as well.

I haven't found any spell books or rods/wands yet so I haven't bothered with magic.

Will Ash ever need invocations?

  Code:
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-3127-g5fcec12 (console) character file.

zogre the Slicer (Demonspawn Monk)                  Turns: 5592, Time: 00:20:33

HP  60/60        AC 11     Str 13      XL: 8   Next: 79%
MP   8/8         EV 11     Int 12      God: Ashenzari [**....]
Gold 198         SH  0     Dex 16      Spells:  0 memorised,  7 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     b - +1,+3 dagger (elec) (curse)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     c - +2 ring mail
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rCorr    .     (no helmet)
rElec  .         rRot     .     (no cloak)
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     (no gloves)
rMut   .         Warding  .     (no boots)
Saprov + . .     Stasis   .     (no amulet)
MR     .....                    (no ring)
                                o - +4 ring of protection

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: repulsion field 1, nightstalker 1, saprovore 1
a: Renounce Religion


You are on level 5 of the Dungeon.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 6 of its levels.

You have collected 198 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a cursed +1,+3 dagger of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
 f - 29 stones (quivered)
Armour
 a - a +0 robe
 c - a +2 ring mail (worn)
Comestibles
 h - a lemon
 k - a meat ration
 l - 6 strawberries
 p - 3 bread rations
 t - a choko
 u - 2 chunks of worm flesh
Scrolls
 n - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 r - a scroll of noise
Jewellery
 o - a +4 ring of protection (left hand)
Potions
 d - a potion of restore abilities
 e - 4 potions of might
 g - 3 potions of curing
 j - 2 potions of heal wounds
 m - 2 potions of brilliance
 s - a red potion
 w - a potion of magic


   Skills:
 + Level 3.9 Fighting
 - Level 8.2(10.5) Short Blades
 - Level 2.6 Dodging
 * Level 5.2 Stealth
 - Level 5.0 Unarmed Combat


You have 7 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (5/16)             Temple (1/1) D:5         

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).
You are slightly more attuned to the shadows.
You can tolerate rotten meat.


Message History

You kill the gnoll!
No target in view!
No target in view!
Things that are here:
a +0,+0 halberd; a gnoll corpse
Things that are here:
a +0,+0 spear; a gnoll corpse
Things that are here:
a +0,+0 halberd; a gnoll corpse
You open the door.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
You smell something rotten. (slot q)
There is an open door here.
You open the door.
There is an open door here.
Eating a rotting chunk of bat flesh. This raw flesh tastes unpleasant.
You continue eating.
Done exploring.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Eustachio (D:4)
  Edmund (D:4)
  Menkaure (D:4)
  An ice beast (D:5)
  2 phantoms
  A centaur (D:4)
  Sigmund (D:3)
  3 ogres
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  A crimson imp (D:5)
  3 orc priests
  A jelly (D:5)
  5 orc wizards
  2 hounds
  3 worker ants
  Terence (D:3)
  6 gnolls
  7 adders
  An orc skeleton (D:4)
  5 worms
  3 giant geckos
  11 orcs
  5 giant cockroaches
  10 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  A quokka (D:4)
  10 bats
  5 giant newts
  A giant newt skeleton (D:5)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5)
  12 jackals
  A jackal skeleton (D:4)
  16 kobolds
  18 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:5)
149 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | zogre, the Demonspawn Monk, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   346 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
   428 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2). [demonic ancestry]
   428 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 21/24 MP: 2/2
  1418 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/29 MP: 3/3
  1745 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2111 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You can tolerate rotten meat. [demonic ancestry]
  2111 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/35 MP: 4/4
  2248 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  2727 | D:3      | Noticed Terence
  2751 | D:3      | Killed Terence
  2818 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2823 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You are slightly more attuned to the shadows. [demonic ancestry]
  2823 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 26/41 MP: 5/5
  2838 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  2847 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  2853 | D:4      | Noticed a centaur
  3127 | D:4      | Killed a centaur
  3214 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  3214 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 40/47 MP: 6/6
  3271 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3271 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  3414 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 35/52 MP: 7/7
  3431 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades
  3463 | D:4      | Killed Eustachio
  3682 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3685 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3717 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3717 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Short Blades
  4001 | D:3      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  4084 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  4099 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
  4099 | D:3      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 40/58 MP: 8/8
  4418 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  4440 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  4660 | D:4      | Noticed Blork the orc
  4667 | D:4      | Killed Blork the orc
  4712 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  4875 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4889 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Short Blades
  4995 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5014 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5112 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  5112 | Temple   | Acquired Ashenzari's first power
  5370 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    84 |       |       ||    84
       Mace              |    38 |       |       ||    38
       Dagger            |    16 |   135 |   269 ||   420
Throw: Stone             |    68 |     9 |     3 ||    80
  Use: Scroll            |     8 |     5 |     7 ||    20
       Potion            |       |     4 |     1 ||     5
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |     6 ||     7


I should probably start putting these on pastebin.

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After stoning a goblin to death I noticed he was wielding an elec dagger. Promptly used it to kill an adder, because adders scare me before I have UC up to 8.

My UC is only 5, a relatively small investment, but still all the dungeon XP I've gained so far on this character. Body slot mutation has not manifested yet; only repulsion field, so I know I'm not monstrous.

Should I switch from UC to dagger? If I do switch in the short term, and get claws, should I switch back?

I have only one win, 4 runes with a DDBe - wouldn't mind another 3-rune win but I'm not opposed to trying for extended either.

I hadn't really planned on a god, although I've always wanted to try a sort of anti-Zin character - slime god worshiper who constantly mutates himself. I usually die before I find a Jiyva altar, though. If I switch to the elec dagger I'll likely go for Dith or Ash.

Character dump copy/paste:
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-3127-g5fcec12 (console) character file.

zogre the Insei (Demonspawn Monk)                   Turns: 1751, Time: 00:05:06

HP  23/29        AC 11     Str 12      XL: 3   Next: 78%
MP   3/3         EV 11     Int 11      God:
Gold 60          SH  0     Dex 15      Spells:  0 memorised,  2 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     b - +0,+2 dagger (elec)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     c - +2 ring mail
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rCorr    .     (no helmet)
rElec  .         rRot     .     (no cloak)
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     (no gloves)
rMut   .         Warding  .     (no boots)
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     (no amulet)
MR     .....                    (no ring)
                                o - +4 ring of protection

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: repulsion field 1
a: no special abilities


You are on level 2 of the Dungeon.
You are hungry.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 2 of its levels.

You have collected 60 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a +0,+2 dagger of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
 f - 23 stones (quivered)
Armour
 a - a +0 robe
 c - a +2 ring mail (worn)
Comestibles
 h - a lemon
 i - an apple
 p - a bread ration
Scrolls
 n - a scroll labeled OPTAECLESKU
Jewellery
 o - a +4 ring of protection (left hand)
Potions
 d - a potion of restore abilities
 e - 2 yellow potions
 g - 2 fuming black potions
 j - a potion of heal wounds
 l - a brown potion
 m - a silvery potion


   Skills:
 - Level 3.0 Fighting
 - Level 2.6 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 * Level 5.0 Unarmed Combat


You have 2 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (2/16)           

Altars:


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).

Thanks for the advice, wish I'd made better use of it :)
Last edited by zogre on Friday, 7th March 2014, 18:22, edited 2 times in total.

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Post Friday, 7th March 2014, 16:07

Re: DsMo - early elec dagger, should I stop UC and switch?

Go with the dagger. At least it should be fun and you always can try standard DsMo in your next games when you like.

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Post Friday, 7th March 2014, 16:13

Re: DsMo - early elec dagger, should I stop UC and switch?

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll give it a shot and hope for nightstalker :)

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Post Friday, 7th March 2014, 16:57

Re: DsMo - early elec dagger, should I stop UC and switch?

A dagger of electrocution (as you'll quickly discover, I think) is really good even without stabbing, so don't feel like you are binding yourself to that or have to go down that road. Anyway, pump that dagger up to +5 and enjoy.

Skybeasts and Electric Eels are, I think, the only stuff you'll generally run into early game that can resist electricity; note that rElec will completely negate the extra damage from your weapon's "sudden explosion of sparks." Eels can generally just be avoided (and should, early on) but you can take them out at range carefully. Skybeasts aren't too common, just be aware your dagger will be exactly as strong as a regular dagger against them, and respond accordingly.

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Post Friday, 7th March 2014, 17:13

Re: CIP DsMo - early elec dagger and a switch, new questions

Crawl is messing with me. Found a high-damage cutlass with rF- (maybe a late game weapon, I don't like the fire vulnerability) and on D7 there was a bailey full of gnolls with elec halberds led by an orc warrior wielding a distortion trident. I'm an idiot, so I killed them all and brought their weapons back to the dungeon.

I've picked them all up for the character dump. I'll drop 'em back on the floor before moving on, just wanted to get it recorded so I can remember this one and laugh later.
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-3127-g5fcec12 (console) character file.

zogre the Slicer (Demonspawn Monk)                  Turns: 8298, Time: 00:37:11

HP  67/67 (68)   AC 13     Str 13      XL: 9   Next: 50%
MP   9/9         EV 11     Int 13      God: Ashenzari [**....]
Gold 282         SH  0     Dex 16      Spells:  0 memorised,  8 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     b - +1,+3 dagger (elec) (curse)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     c - +3 ring mail
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rCorr    .     (no helmet)
rElec  .         rRot     .     (no cloak)
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     i - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     (no boots)
Saprov + . .     Stasis   .     (no amulet)
MR     .....                    (no ring)
                                o - +4 ring of protection

@: overloaded, very slow, not resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: repulsion field 1, nightstalker 1, saprovore 1
a: Renounce Religion


You are on level 7 of the Dungeon.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is pleased with you.
You are overloaded with stuff.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 8 of its levels.
You have also visited: Bailey.

You have collected 282 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a cursed +1,+3 dagger of electrocution (weapon)
 q - the +12,+11 cutlass "Ofidof" {slice, rF- Dex+2}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
 D - a +1,+1 halberd of electrocution
 E - a +2,+1 halberd of electrocution
 F - a +0,+2 halberd of electrocution
 G - a +2,+1 halberd of electrocution
 H - a +1,+2 halberd of electrocution
 I - a +1,+1 halberd of electrocution
 J - a +2,+1 halberd of electrocution
 K - a +2,+2 trident of distortion
 L - a +0,+1 halberd of electrocution
 M - a +2,+1 halberd of electrocution
Missiles
 f - 29 stones
 y - 10 tomahawks of returning (quivered)
Armour
 c - a +3 ring mail (worn)
 i - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of fire {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 h - a lemon
 k - a meat ration
 l - 6 strawberries
 p - 5 bread rations
 t - a choko
 C - 3 chunks of centaur flesh
Scrolls
 n - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 r - a scroll of noise
 x - a scroll of recharging
Jewellery
 o - a +4 ring of protection (left hand)
 A - a cursed ring of teleportation
Potions
 d - a potion of restore abilities
 e - 4 potions of might
 g - 5 potions of curing
 j - 8 potions of heal wounds
 m - 2 potions of brilliance
 s - a red potion
 u - 2 white potions
 v - 2 fuming pink potions
 w - 3 potions of magic
 z - a gluggy cyan potion
 B - a gluggy red potion


   Skills:
 - Level 5.1 Fighting
 - Level 8.2(10.5) Short Blades
 + Level 2.0 Armour
 - Level 2.6 Dodging
 * Level 7.6 Stealth
 - Level 5.0 Unarmed Combat


You have 8 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (7/16)             Temple (1/1) D:5         

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).
You are slightly more attuned to the shadows.
You can tolerate rotten meat.


Message History

You carve the goblin like a ham!!!
You kill the goblin!
p - 5 bread rations (gained 1)
You see here an iguana corpse.
Found a scroll of teleportation.
HP restored.
There is an empty arch of ancient stone here.
Items here: ))))))))))
K - a +2,+2 trident of distortion
Unknown command.
Char dumped successfully.
D - a +1,+1 halberd of electrocution; E - a +2,+1 halberd of electrocution
F - a +0,+2 halberd of electrocution; G - a +2,+1 halberd of electrocution
H - a +1,+2 halberd of electrocution
You are being weighed down by all of your possessions.
I - a +1,+1 halberd of electrocution; J - a +2,+1 halberd of electrocution
L - a +0,+1 halberd of electrocution
You are being crushed by all of your possessions.
M - a +2,+1 halberd of electrocution
Unknown command.

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.......+,    ,   .#
####...#    ,,   .#
   #...#,,, ,,   .#
   #...#  , , , *.#
   #...#,, ,     .#
####...##########.#
................@.#
#.................#
#....###########..#
#....#         #..#
#....#         #..#
#....#         #..#
#%)..#         #..#
#.%..#         #..#
%....#         #..#


There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Eustachio (D:4)
  Edmund (D:4)
  A hungry ghost (D:6)
  Menkaure (D:4)
  A necrophage (D:6)
  2 orc warriors
  An ice beast (D:5)
  2 phantoms
  2 centaurs
  Sigmund (D:3)
  4 ogres
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  A goliath beetle (D:6)
  3 wights (D:6)
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:6)
  3 crimson imps
  A giant frog skeleton (D:6)
  3 orc priests
  2 jellies
  5 orc wizards
  3 hounds
  An iguana (D:7)
  4 worker ants
  Terence (D:3)
  19 gnolls
  9 adders
  2 orc skeletons
  5 worms
  3 giant geckos
  15 orcs
  5 giant cockroaches
  21 goblins
  9 hobgoblins
  A quokka (D:4)
  10 bats
  6 giant newts
  A giant newt skeleton (D:5)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5)
  18 jackals
  A jackal skeleton (D:4)
  32 kobolds
  18 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:5)
223 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | zogre, the Demonspawn Monk, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   346 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
   428 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2). [demonic ancestry]
   428 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 21/24 MP: 2/2
  1418 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/29 MP: 3/3
  1745 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2111 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You can tolerate rotten meat. [demonic ancestry]
  2111 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/35 MP: 4/4
  2248 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  2727 | D:3      | Noticed Terence
  2751 | D:3      | Killed Terence
  2818 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2823 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You are slightly more attuned to the shadows. [demonic ancestry]
  2823 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 26/41 MP: 5/5
  2838 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  2847 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  2853 | D:4      | Noticed a centaur
  3127 | D:4      | Killed a centaur
  3214 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  3214 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 40/47 MP: 6/6
  3271 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3271 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  3414 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 35/52 MP: 7/7
  3431 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades
  3463 | D:4      | Killed Eustachio
  3682 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3685 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3717 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3717 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Short Blades
  4001 | D:3      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  4084 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  4099 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
  4099 | D:3      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 40/58 MP: 8/8
  4418 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  4440 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  4660 | D:4      | Noticed Blork the orc
  4667 | D:4      | Killed Blork the orc
  4712 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  4875 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4889 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Short Blades
  4995 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5014 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5112 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  5112 | Temple   | Acquired Ashenzari's first power
  5370 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  6168 | D:6      | Identified the +12,+11 cutlass "Ofidof" {slice, rF- Dex+2}
  6243 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 65/65 MP: 9/9
  6906 | D:7      | Found a flagged portal.
  6941 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6970 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
  7277 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  7825 | Bailey   | What I want to know, is what sadistic bastard designed this vault
  8166 | D:7      | Got the uncursed scale mail of Action {rC++ Str+2}
  8179 | D:7      | Identified the +1 scale mail of Action {rC++ Str+2} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    84 |       |       ||    84
       Mace              |    38 |       |       ||    38
       Dagger            |    16 |   135 |   492 ||   643
Throw: Stone             |    68 |     9 |     5 ||    82
       Tomahawk          |       |       |     3 ||     3
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     8 |     5 |     8 ||    21
       Potion            |       |     4 |     5 ||     9
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |    17 ||    18

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