CiP LOFE enchant IDA or not?

Sunday, 12th January 2014, 08:37 by Scalding Steam

Hello everyone, I've just recently come back to Crawl after taking a break of something like 1.5 years.

I've got this promising LOFE which I hope would become my first online win:

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-1811-gdc2d5af (console) character file. ssteam the Spear-Bearer (LOFE) Turns: 33341, Time: 03:17:10 HP 115/115 AC 16 Str 12 XL: 14 Next: 53% MP 36/36 EV 17 Int 19 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******] Gold 1408 SH 11 Dex 14 Spells: 7 memorised, 0 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis . o - +3 orc trident (pain) rCold + . . Clarity . H - +3 leather armour {rC+} rNeg . . . Conserve . j - +0 orc buckler rPois . rCorr . T - +1 wizard hat rElec . rRot . K - +0 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . E - +2 pair of dwarf gloves rMut . Warding . v - +0 pair of boots Saprov + . . Stasis . (no amulet) L - +3 ring of dexterity d - ring of magical power @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy A: conserve scrolls, saprovore 1 a: Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is exalted by your worship. You are hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 20 of its levels. You have also visited: Ice Cave. You have collected 1460 gold pieces. You have spent 52 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons b - a +2 elven blowgun o - a +3,+3 orcish trident of pain (weapon) Missiles h - 4 needles of sleeping l - 34 poisoned needles t - 14 tomahawks (quivered) M - 7 needles of paralysis Armour j - a +0 orcish buckler (worn) u - an ice dragon hide v - a +0 pair of boots (worn) E - a +2 pair of dwarven gloves (worn) H - a +3 leather armour of cold resistance (worn) K - a +0 cloak (worn) T - a +1 wizard hat (worn) Magical devices c - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2} i - a wand of polymorph p - a wand of digging {zapped: 1} w - a wand of draining N - a wand of fire {zapped: 1} P - a wand of draining {zapped: 1} V - a wand of paralysis (2) Comestibles a - a meat ration B - 6 bread rations W - 17 sultanas Scrolls g - a scroll of fog k - a scroll of enchant armour n - 2 scrolls of identify y - 2 scrolls of blinking U - a scroll of remove curse Z - 3 scrolls of teleportation Jewellery d - a ring of magical power (left hand) e - an uncursed ring of flight m - a ring of ice r - an uncursed ring of poison resistance F - an uncursed ring of magical power L - a +3 ring of dexterity (right hand) Potions s - a potion of speed z - a green potion A - 2 potions of brilliance D - a potion of might J - 2 potions of agility O - 4 potions of curing Q - 3 potions of heal wounds R - a potion of restore abilities S - 2 potions of flight Books q - a book of the Sky Spells Type Level Flight Charms/Air 3 Airstrike Air 4 Silence Hexes/Air 5 Deflect Missiles Charms/Air 6 Conjure Ball Lightning Conjuration/Air 6 Tornado Air 9 Miscellaneous f - a lamp of fire x - a phial of floods Skills: - Level 8.1 Fighting - Level 14.0 Polearms - Level 10.0 Dodging - Level 5.8 Stealth - Level 5.1 Shields - Level 6.0 Spellcasting - Level 7.6 Conjurations - Level 10.0 Necromancy - Level 9.4 Fire Magic + Level 1.2 Evocations You cannot memorise any spells. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 1% 1 None b - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #####... 1% 3 ##..... c - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #####... 3% 4 ####... d - Sublimation of Blood Necr #####..... 1% 2 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire #####..... 12% 5 #####.. f - Bolt of Draining Conj/Necr #####..... 12% 5 #####.. g - Agony Necr #####... 6% 5 #####.. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (11/16) Temple (1/1) D:5 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (0/5) Lair:4 Spider (0/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Orc: D:9-12 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:4 [ D:6 : Annotations: D:1 exclusion: downstairs D:2 exclusion: upstairs D:4 1 exclusion D:6 exclusion: downstairs D:8 exclusion: 3 killer bees Lair:6 exclusion: oklob plant Lair:8 exclusion: oklob plant Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have stony skin. Your flesh is heat resistant. Your flesh is vulnerable to cold. Your heat harms attackers. You bathe your surroundings in blazing heat. You are too hot to use scrolls. You are very good at protecting items from fire. You can tolerate rotten meat. Message History You see here 23 sling bullets. There is a hole to the Spider Nest here. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. You are feeling hungry. (D) Dungeon (T) Temple (L) Lair (S) Swamp (N) Spider Nest (M) Slime Pits Where to? (* - list waypoints, Enter - Lair:2 @ (x,y), ? - help) You see here an elven leather armour. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. There is a stone staircase leading up here. Items here: !!!!!!!! %%%%%%%%%% ( )) ///// :::::: === ???????????? [ Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Okay, then. You can't memorise that many levels of magic yet! Okay, then. ## .# ### ### # .##### ######.## #.#### .##..###### #...###.###### #.P#P. ###.....#.###...##....#..###..#.. .#.........?..............##..#.. ................................. >...............@................ .....(........................... ................................. ................................. ##........................[...... #.P.............................. .......#.#..#P................... .......#..#+#.................... ...#...........#................. There are no monsters in sight!

As you can see, I'm currently wearing this quite nice +3 leather armor of rCold. However, I managed to slay an ice dragon in Lair and obtain its hide, and I'm now wondering whether I should enchant it to make an IDA. An IDA would boost my AC further as well as guarantee at least one pip of rC regardless of my body temperature which would be quite nice. However, my strength is not that high and unless I miscalculated, with the new AEVP formula I would get 3 points of AEVP with 13 STR, and I'm not sure if 3 extra AC would worth the -3 EV and the spellcasting/stealth penalties.

Also, I've found two elemental evokers recently. Since those apparently got completely reworked in trunk, and I haven't played the game in forever, I'm not sure how should I respond to this find. I've heard that the new elemental evokers are great, but should I invest exp in Evocations just for them? And if I should, how much?

Sunday, 12th January 2014, 15:42 by battaile

If you have xp to spare its definitely worth investing some EVO for the new evokers. I usually aim for somewhere around 13 skill if I'm going to be using them frequently. They are still useful at lower skill levels but you don't get as many minions summoned per use.

Sunday, 12th January 2014, 22:25 by DracheReborn

A +0 IDA is just 3 more AC than your +3 leather, but eventually you'd be able to enchant it up (to +8 I think?) while +3 is the most that leather can get. In addition, training Armour skill will give you more bonus AC if your base AC is higher. So yes, I would go for IDA. Maybe not right away but eventually for sure. In my experience, 12 STR is perfectly fine for FDA/IDA/PDA, but you can still choose to level up STR if you find it lacking.

Monday, 13th January 2014, 13:33 by Scalding Steam

Played some more today. Finished Orc, found a randart ring with +3 str in a labyrinth, so I decided to enchant the hide. Unfortunately, I discovered that even with 14 base strength and the +3 str ring, wearing the IDA still gives -6 to my EV!

In the end, I decided that the +3 AC isn't worth dealing with all the penalties. Maybe I'll wear the IDA after I've enchanted it a bit and have some spare xp to put into the Armour skill. Until then, I think I'll stick with the leather armour.

Monday, 13th January 2014, 13:44 by mopl

Scalding Steam wrote:Played some more today. Finished Orc, found a randart ring with +3 str in a labyrinth, so I decided to enchant the hide. Unfortunately, I discovered that even with 14 base strength and the +3 str ring, wearing the IDA still gives -6 to my EV!

In the end, I decided that the +3 AC isn't worth dealing with all the penalties. Maybe I'll wear the IDA after I've enchanted it a bit and have some spare xp to put into the Armour skill. Until then, I think I'll stick with the leather armour.

With some Armour skill, you'll see the benefit of IDA... Wait still you don't bother with this +3 str ring

Monday, 13th January 2014, 14:44 by Scalding Steam

mopl wrote:
Scalding Steam wrote:Played some more today. Finished Orc, found a randart ring with +3 str in a labyrinth, so I decided to enchant the hide. Unfortunately, I discovered that even with 14 base strength and the +3 str ring, wearing the IDA still gives -6 to my EV!

In the end, I decided that the +3 AC isn't worth dealing with all the penalties. Maybe I'll wear the IDA after I've enchanted it a bit and have some spare xp to put into the Armour skill. Until then, I think I'll stick with the leather armour.

With some Armour skill, you'll see the benefit of IDA... Wait still you don't bother with this +3 str ring

Well the ring gives rF+, rN+ and Stealth++ as well, the +3 str is mostly a nice addition

Monday, 13th January 2014, 14:54 by mopl

Scalding Steam wrote:
mopl wrote:
Scalding Steam wrote:Played some more today. Finished Orc, found a randart ring with +3 str in a labyrinth, so I decided to enchant the hide. Unfortunately, I discovered that even with 14 base strength and the +3 str ring, wearing the IDA still gives -6 to my EV!

In the end, I decided that the +3 AC isn't worth dealing with all the penalties. Maybe I'll wear the IDA after I've enchanted it a bit and have some spare xp to put into the Armour skill. Until then, I think I'll stick with the leather armour.

With some Armour skill, you'll see the benefit of IDA... Wait still you don't bother with this +3 str ring

Well the ring gives rF+, rN+ and Stealth++ as well, the +3 str is mostly a nice addition

Well, in this case I suppose that you can keep the ring !
Are you relying on your spells or weapon to deal with monsters ? That changes the impact of spell failure due to IDA...

Friday, 17th January 2014, 06:02 by Scalding Steam

Update

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-1811-gdc2d5af (console) character file. ssteam the Fighter (Lava Orc Fire Elementalist) Turns: 72102, Time: 07:11:21 HP 154/154 AC 23 Str 14 XL: 17 Next: 90% MP 32/32 EV 17 Int 17 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******] Gold 1525 SH 13 Dex 14 Spells: 9 memorised, 0 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis . a - +4 orc trident (pain) rCold . . . Clarity . f - +0 mottled dragon armour rNeg . . . Conserve . j - +0 orc buckler rPois . rCorr . T - +1 wizard hat rElec . rRot . K - +0 cloak SustAb . . Spirit . E - +2 pair of dwarf gloves rMut . Warding . v - +0 pair of boots Gourm + Stasis . W - amulet of the gourmand L - +3 ring of dexterity M - ring of protection from magic @: very resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy A: large bone plates 1, conserve scrolls, dopey 1, saprovore 1 a: Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion }: 1/15 runes: decaying You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is exalted by your worship. You are very full. You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 41 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave. You have collected 3955 gold pieces. You have spent 2430 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +4,+4 orcish trident of pain (weapon) w - a +2 elven blowgun Missiles l - 2 curare-tipped needles t - 13 tomahawks (quivered) Armour f - a +0 mottled dragon armour (worn) j - a +0 orcish buckler (worn) v - a +0 pair of boots (worn) E - a +2 pair of dwarven gloves (worn) K - a +0 cloak (worn) T - a +1 wizard hat (worn) Magical devices i - a wand of cold {zapped: 1} p - a wand of digging (16) q - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 2} u - a wand of hasting (3) A - a wand of invisibility {zapped: 1} H - a wand of paralysis N - a wand of fire {zapped: 1} X - a wand of teleportation (2) Comestibles B - 5 bread rations Scrolls g - 2 scrolls of fog o - a scroll of identify y - 2 scrolls of blinking P - a scroll of silence Y - 2 scrolls of fear Z - 3 scrolls of teleportation Jewellery d - an uncursed ring of protection from cold e - an uncursed ring of flight h - an uncursed ring of protection from cold k - the ring of Fratil {rF+ rN+ Str+3 Stlth++} (You found it in a labyrinth) [ring of positive energy] It affects your strength (+3). It protects you from fire. It makes you much more stealthy. r - an uncursed ring of poison resistance C - an uncursed ring of invisibility F - an uncursed ring of magical power I - an uncursed amulet of stasis L - a +3 ring of dexterity (right hand) M - a ring of protection from magic (left hand) W - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck) Potions c - a potion of resistance s - a potion of speed D - a potion of might J - a potion of agility O - 5 potions of curing Q - 3 potions of heal wounds R - a potion of restore abilities S - a potion of flight Miscellaneous m - a lamp of fire x - a phial of floods z - a sack of spiders G - a stone of tremors V - a box of beasts Rods b - a +6 rod of warding (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) Skills: - Level 14.6 Fighting - Level 14.0 Polearms - Level 11.0 Armour + Level 12.1 Dodging - Level 5.8 Stealth - Level 5.1 Shields - Level 7.6 Spellcasting - Level 7.6 Conjurations - Level 10.0 Necromancy - Level 9.4 Fire Magic - Level 13.0 Evocations You cannot memorise any spells. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 1% 1 None b - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #####... 1% 3 ##..... c - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #####... 4% 4 ####... d - Sublimation of Blood Necr #####..... 1% 2 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire #####..... 12% 5 #####.. f - Bolt of Draining Conj/Necr #####..... 10% 5 #####.. g - Agony Necr #####... 8% 5 #####.. h - Dispel Undead Necr #####... 8% 5 #####.. i - Apportation Tloc #......... 14% 1 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (16/16) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (4/4) D:12 Elf (1/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (5/5) Lair:4 Spider (5/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Vaults (0/5) D:14 D:15 Depths (1/6) D:16 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Shops: D:4 [ D:6 : D:12 (/ Orc:3 ? Orc:4 *[**[ Annotations: D:1 exclusion: downstairs D:2 exclusion: upstairs D:4 1 exclusion D:6 exclusion: downstairs D:8 exclusion: 3 killer bees Lair:6 exclusion: oklob plant Lair:8 exclusion: oklob plant Swamp:2 exclusion: upstairs, Nikola Swamp:4 Jorgrun Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have stony skin. Your flesh is heat resistant. Your flesh is vulnerable to cold. Your heat harms attackers. You bathe your surroundings in blazing heat. You are too hot to use scrolls. You are very good at protecting items from fire. You can tolerate rotten meat. You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2). You are dopey. (Int -2) Message History Okay, then. Memorise Apportation, consuming 1 spell level and leaving 0? You start memorising the spell. You continue memorising. You finish memorising. Casting: Flame Tongue Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Okay, then. Search for what [Enter for "sack", or ? for help]? uniden Can't find anything matching that. Search for what [Enter for "uniden", or ? for help]? unidentified Can't find anything matching that. Okay, then. Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You're wearing all the rings you can. Remove which one? (? for menu, Esc to cancel) < or r - a ring of poison resistance; > or L - a +3 ring of dexterity You remove your ring of poison resistance. M - a ring of protection from magic (left hand) Char dumped successfully. Save game and exit? ## .# ### ### # .##### ######.## #.#### .##..###### #...###.###### #.P#P. ###.....#.###...##....#..###..#.. .#.........?..............##..#.. ................................. >...............@................ .....(........................... ................................. ................................. ##........................[...... #.P.............................. .......#.#..#P................... .......#..#+#.................... ...#...........#................. There are no monsters in sight!

Decided to wear a MDA instead. rC++ is nice, but I kinda like having EV.

Tabbed my way through Swamp, and cleared Spider till the last level. Kind of lost as to where to visit next, though. How does the new Vaults (1-4) compare to Depths in terms of difficulty?

I'm wondering if I should do Forest when I find it. I know people think doing Forest isn't worth it, but I've never been to there and I feel sorta obliged to do it at least once. Forest isn't that bad with stasis and fireball... Right?

Also, with evokable sources of Dmsl and haste (and a crapton of recharge scrolls), is there any reason to train Charms at all?

I'm a little worried about my ability to killdudes. The pain trident is nice, but I can't really fight orbs of fire with it.

Now that evokable items are actually good, inventory management has gone from tiresome to absolutely maddening. Even with dropping all unnessary items, I still find myself constantly running back to my stash. Also, am I crazy or are low-temperature LOs much better than high-temperature ones?

Friday, 17th January 2014, 11:09 by DracheReborn

Vaults is easier than Depths, generally.

Scalding Steam wrote:I'm a little worried about my ability to killdudes. The pain trident is nice, but I can't really fight orbs of fire with it.

Kiku gives you tools, like corpse delivery + Simulacrum. And anyway, as LO you have plenty of rF so OoF's will have a tough time killing you.

Scalding Steam wrote:Now that evokable items are actually good, inventory management has gone from tiresome to absolutely maddening. Even with dropping all unnessary items, I still find myself constantly running back to my stash. Also, am I crazy or are low-temperature LOs much better than high-temperature ones?

Well at high temp, you lose some AC, get cold vulnerability, and can't read scrolls, balanced against rF+++ and fire enhancer. The first 2 drawbacks are mitigated by IDA (which is why IDA is generally the best armour for LOs), and you have wand of tele so losing scrolls is less critical. On the other hand, maybe you're not getting much use out of the fire enhancer, though it should have a noticeable effect on Fireball at least.

Saturday, 18th January 2014, 13:14 by Scalding Steam

Hmm... Haven't thought about receive corpses + simulacrum. Wouldn't simulacrums die rather quickly against OoFs due to rF-, though?

The extra AC at low temperature is the main reason I think low temp LO is better than high temp LO. That and being able to use scrolls. The heat aura and rF+++ at high temp are of course nice to have, but well, suffice to say, I'd choose a perma-cooled LO over a perma-heated one any day!

Saturday, 18th January 2014, 17:42 by Siegurt

Simulacrums do in fact die very quickly against OOF, however OOF's will pretty much always attack you rather than the simulacrums, So typically you can maneuver so you have a few simu's behind the OOF, doing damage while you're attacking from the other side.

Simulacrum is a very short-lived spell anyway, so the fact that they die quickly isn't a big deal, the damage output in that short amount of time can be *very* high. Think of it as more of a direct damage attack spell, one that works best at short range.

Sunday, 19th January 2014, 14:44 by Scalding Steam

I see. Still, with -8 aptitude in ice magic, getting simulacrum online might prove... tricky.

I'll probably go with the tried-and-true method of "tab it with a bardiche" instead.

In other news: Depths are brutal! I'm on Depths:3 and I've already killed four golden dragons and four tentacled monstrosities. I don't recall these dudes being this common on D:27!

Friday, 24th January 2014, 13:02 by Scalding Steam

Splat on Vaults:5

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-1811-gdc2d5af (console) character file. 480502 ssteam the Phalangite (level 23, -8/206 HPs) Began as a Lava Orc Fire Elementalist on Jan 8, 2014. Was the Champion of Kikubaaqudgha. Mangled by a tengu reaver ... wielding a +3,+1 glaive of protection (20 damage) ... on Level 5 of the Vaults on Jan 24, 2014. The game lasted 12:57:29 (125077 turns). ssteam the Phalangite (LOFE) Turns: 125077, Time: 12:57:30 HP -8/206 AC 27 Str 15 XL: 23 Next: 64% MP 36/36 EV 20 Int 19 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******] Gold 3493 SH 11 Dex 13 Spells: 11 memorised, 1 level left rFire + + + SeeInvis + a - +4 orc trident (pain) rCold . . . Clarity . f - +4 mottled dragon armour rNeg . . . Conserve + j - +0 orc buckler rPois . rCorr . w - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec . rRot . T - +0 cloak (curse) SustAb . . Spirit . E - +2 pair of dwarf gloves rMut . Warding . v - +0 pair of boots Saprov + . . Stasis . s - amulet of conservation d - ring of protection from cold L - +3,+4 ring of slaying @: about to teleport, quite poisoned, very slightly contaminated, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy A: iridescent scales 1, conserve scrolls, saprovore 1 a: Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion }: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer You were on level 5 of the Vaults. You worshipped Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha was exalted by your worship. You were very hungry. You visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and saw 51 of its levels. You also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave. You collected 7541 gold pieces. You spent 4048 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +4,+4 orcish trident of pain (weapon) n - the +8 blowgun of Quarrel {evade, Noisy +Blink Str+3 SInv} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) It affects your evasion (+5 to EV). It affects your strength (+3). It enhances your eyesight. It lets you blink. It may make noises in combat. y - a +1,+1 glaive of protection U - a +4,+1 glaive of dragon slaying Missiles t - 13 tomahawks (quivered) P - 2 curare-tipped needles Armour f - a +4 mottled dragon armour (worn) j - a +0 orcish buckler (worn) v - a +0 pair of boots (worn) w - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) E - a +2 pair of dwarven gloves (worn) T - a cursed +0 cloak (worn) Magical devices i - a wand of cold (9) p - a wand of digging (14) q - a wand of disintegration (10) u - a wand of hasting (2) A - a wand of invisibility (1) D - a wand of fire (5) H - a wand of paralysis (16) X - a wand of teleportation (2) Comestibles c - a chunk of human flesh B - 4 bread rations V - 3 pieces of ambrosia Scrolls e - 2 scrolls of blinking g - 2 scrolls of fog K - 2 scrolls of identify Y - 2 scrolls of fear Z - 3 scrolls of teleportation Jewellery d - a ring of protection from cold (right hand) h - an uncursed ring of protection from cold k - the ring of Fratil {rF+ rN+ Str+3 Stlth++} (You found it in a labyrinth) [ring of positive energy] It affects your strength (+3). It protects you from fire. It makes you much more stealthy. o - the amulet of Jodexyim {Clar Str+3 Int+5} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) [amulet of clarity] It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+5). r - an uncursed ring of poison resistance s - an amulet of conservation (around neck) C - an uncursed ring of invisibility F - an uncursed ring of magical power I - an uncursed amulet of stasis L - a +3,+4 ring of slaying (left hand) M - an uncursed ring of protection from magic N - an uncursed ring of flight W - an uncursed ring of positive energy Potions J - a potion of agility O - 6 potions of curing R - a potion of restore abilities S - a potion of flight Miscellaneous l - a stone of tremors m - a lamp of fire (inert) x - a phial of floods (inert) z - a sack of spiders G - a stone of tremors (inert) Rods b - a +6 rod of warding (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) Skills: - Level 17.2 Fighting + Level 24.0 Polearms - Level 11.0 Armour - Level 16.2 Dodging - Level 5.8 Stealth - Level 5.1 Shields - Level 9.2 Spellcasting - Level 10.0 Conjurations - Level 3.8 Charms - Level 12.0 Necromancy - Level 6.6 Translocations - Level 9.4 Fire Magic - Level 13.0 Evocations You had one spell level left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 1% 1 None b - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 3 None c - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 4 ###.... d - Sublimation of Blood Necr ######.... 1% 2 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 4% 5 ####... f - Bolt of Draining Conj/Necr ######.... 2% 5 ####... g - Agony Necr ######.. 1% 5 ####... h - Dispel Undead Necr ######.. 1% 5 ####... i - Apportation Tloc ####...... 1% 1 None j - Animate Dead Necr N/A 1% 4 ###.... k - Control Teleport Chrm/Tloc ####...... 12% 4 ###.... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (16/16) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (4/4) D:12 Elf (1/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (5/5) Lair:4 Spider (5/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Vaults (5/5) D:15 Blade (0/1) Vaults:4 Zot (0/5) Depths:6 Forest (0/5) Vaults:2 Depths (6/6) D:16 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Shops: D:4 [ D:6 : D:12 (/ Orc:3 ? Orc:4 *[**[ Vaults:3 * Depths:1 ! Depths:3 / Depths:6 % Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Depths:6 Abyss: Depths:4 Pandemonium: Depths:1 Depths:3 Depths:5 Annotations: D:1 exclusion: downstairs D:2 exclusion: upstairs D:4 1 exclusion D:6 exclusion: downstairs D:8 exclusion: 3 killer bees Lair:6 exclusion: oklob plant Lair:8 exclusion: oklob plant Swamp:2 exclusion: upstairs, Nikola Swamp:4 Jorgrun Vaults:4 exclusion: downstairs Depths:1 exclusions: giant eyeball, great orb of eyes, shining eye and 3 more exclusions Depths:2 exclusion: downstairs Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have stony skin. Your flesh is almost immune to the effects of heat. Your fire spells are more powerful. Your flesh is vulnerable to cold. Your heat harms attackers. You bathe your surroundings in blazing heat. You are too hot to use scrolls. You are very good at protecting items from fire. You can tolerate rotten meat. You are partially covered in iridescent scales (AC +4). Message History Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You feel much better. The deep elf knight casts a spell. The deep elf knight seems to speed up. The tengu reaver barely misses you. The stone giant is burned by your radiant heat. The stone giant is severely wounded. The stone giant closely misses you. The yaktaur shoots a bolt. The bolt hits you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit) Zapping: X - a wand of teleportation (3) Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - you You feel strangely unstable. This wand has 2 charges left. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You feel sick. The vault warden closely misses you. The stone giant closely misses you. The yaktaur shoots a bolt. The bolt hits you! The tengu reaver hits you from afar with a runed glaive! You die... Kikubaaqudgha rasps: "You have failed me! 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Vanquished Creatures 6 golden dragons Frederick (Depths:6) A bone dragon (Depths:3) Arachne (Spider:5) 9 tentacled monstrosities 4 hellephants (Depths:5) A quicksilver dragon (Depths:5) A lich (Depths:5) 4 titans 4 tengu reavers A deep elf master archer (Depths:5) Rupert (D:15) Agnes (Depths:1) An ancient champion (Depths:5) 4 sphinxes 2 storm dragons Kirke (D:15) A draconian knight (Depths:5) 3 iron dragons A draconian scorcher (Depths:6) 2 ghost moths (Spider:5) 5 vault wardens 4 emperor scorpions 7 fire giants Aizul (Depths:1) 12 frost giants Gastronok (Lair:1) 2 orc warlords (Depths:5) A balrug (Depths:2) 26 stone giants A draconian caller (Depths:6) A vampire knight (Depths:4) A black draconian (Depths:6) Azrael (D:14) 2 red draconians A lorocyproca (Depths:3) A pale draconian (Depths:6) 2 white draconians (Depths:6) A mottled draconian (Depths:6) A purple draconian (Depths:6) 2 yellow draconians (Depths:6) A minotaur (Lab) Snorg (D:14) A deep elf death mage (Vaults:5) 6 vault guards 5 fire dragons 3 deep elf annihilators 18 ettins 17 yaktaur captains A deep elf high priest (Depths:4) 38 hydras Fannar (Lair:1) 5 ironheart preservers 10 ice dragons 2 ravenous item mimics 4 great orbs of eyes A ravenous feature mimic (Lair:6) 13 deep troll shamans An anaconda (Depths:5) A vampire mage (Depths:1) 11 alligators 16 ogre magi 2 tengu warriors 4 death yaks 10 deep troll earth magi 16 very ugly things 2 naga warriors 3 orc high priests (Depths:5) Urug (D:14) 2 sun demons (Depths:2) A fire crab (Vaults:1) A dryad (shapeshifter) (Depths:2) 2 dancing weapons (Vaults:4) 5 deep elf knights 25 centaur warriors 3 rakshasas Erolcha (Orc:2) 7 iron trolls Nergalle (D:14) A giant orange brain (Depths:5) An ice devil (IceCv) 6 hell knights 3 unseen horrors 23 deep trolls A faun (shapeshifter) (Depths:3) 7 skeletal warriors A death drake (shapeshifter) (D:16) 12 swamp dragons 4 ice statues (IceCv) 2 flayed ghosts (Vaults:1) A harpy (shapeshifter) (Depths:5) 9 cyclopes A harpy (Depths:5) 12 ironbrand convokers 4 wizards Joseph (Orc:1) The ghost of Shard1697 the Cleaver, an experienced HOFi of Okawaru (D:5) A giant orange brain (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 13 orc knights 5 necromancers 35 wolf spiders 4 giant amoebae 7 griffons A hellion (Depths:1) 16 hill giants 2 orc sorcerers 3 phantasmal warriors (Depths:5) 10 red wasps An elephant (Depths:5) 5 black mambas 3 frost giant zombies (Depths:2) 2 moths of wrath (Spider:5) A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (Depths:3) 12 vault sentinels 2 feature mimics A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Depths:2) A deep elf summoner (Vaults:4) 2 guardian serpents Psyche (Orc:1) A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) 4 formicid venom magi 39 spiny frogs An iron devil (Depths:3) 3 mermaids (shapeshifter) 2 spiny worms 2 shining eyes (shapeshifter) 60 yaktaurs 2 fire drakes 5 blue devils (IceCv) 12 demonic crawlers A water elemental (Depths:4) A komodo dragon (shapeshifter) (Depths:4) 3 polar bears 5 komodo dragons 9 trolls A spriggan (shapeshifter) (Depths:4) A spriggan (D:7) 2 naga magi 13 orb spiders 2 jumping spiders (shapeshifter) 2 tengu conjurers A red wasp zombie (Depths:5) Prince Ribbit (D:7) 24 jumping spiders 9 bog bodies A hellwing (Depths:1) 8 boulder beetles 3 deep troll zombies 67 slime creatures 4 baby alligators (Swamp:4) 28 two-headed ogres An ettin zombie (Depths:5) A slime creature (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) A brown ooze (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) 2 ynoxinuls 15 blink frogs A catoblepas skeleton (D:12) 10 giant leeches 2 hydra zombies A raven (Swamp:3) 17 trapdoor spiders 9 basilisks A human (shapeshifter) (Depths:4) A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5) A grizzly bear (Lair:4) 36 redbacks 91 ugly things 2 wraiths 2 ugly thing zombies A wyvern (Lair:8) 2 hill giant zombies A fire bat (shapeshifter) (Depths:2) 2 golden eyes (Depths:5) 3 hogs (D:15) 3 formicids 2 yaks (shapeshifter) A fire dragon skeleton (D:16) 2 elephant slugs 14 humans (D:15) 3 hungry ghosts 28 tarantellas 3 vampires 4 fire elementals Eustachio (D:6) 6 sharks A clay golem (Vaults:2) 71 yaks 8 hippogriffs 46 vampire mosquitoes 4 molten gargoyles (D:13) A neqoxec (Depths:3) 24 wolves A manticore (shapeshifter) (Depths:3) A hill giant skeleton (D:14) 5 deep elf fighters 22 swamp drakes 3 manticores 44 swamp worms 6 mottled dragons 8 porcupines A soldier ant (D:14) A deep elf mage (Vaults:4) 3 freezing wraiths 6 ice beasts A sky beast (D:5) A deep troll skeleton (D:15) 4 hell hounds 11 giant goldfish An iron troll simulacrum (Vaults:1) 23 orc warriors 9 nagas A griffon simulacrum (D:16) 2 black bears (D:8) 7 yellow wasps A yellow wasp (shapeshifter) (Depths:5) 5 tengu A phantom (D:7) A deep dwarf (shapeshifter) (D:14) 81 ogres 39 centaurs 12 crocodiles 10 giant slugs 6 lava worms (Lair:4) 2 boring beetles Sigmund (D:2) Duvessa (D:6) 3 human zombies 2 vampire mosquito zombies (Vaults:2) 3 wargs 22 water moccasins A cyclops zombie (D:16) A giant slug zombie (Vaults:4) A silver statue (D:14) A brain worm (D:13) 2 big kobolds (D:10) 28 insubstantial wisps 25 giant frogs 7 agate snails An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (Depths:1) 2 cyclops skeletons (D:16) 12 jellyfish 3 wights (D:14) 22 killer bees 2 eyes of draining (Depths:5) 4 lava fish (Lair:4) A hippogriff skeleton (D:13) A quasit (Depths:3) A goliath beetle (shapeshifter) (Depths:2) 5 lava snakes (Lair:4) 4 electric eels 3 centaur zombies 2 draconian simulacra (IceCv) 11 crimson imps A giant frog zombie (D:10) Dowan (D:6) 5 goliath beetles 19 spiders An iron imp (Depths:3) 15 hounds 11 scorpions 13 iguanas 17 jellies 26 orc priests 14 big fish A giant frog skeleton (D:8) 4 gnoll shamans (D:6) A hound (shapeshifter) (Depths:4) 33 orc wizards 3 troll simulacra (IceCv) 2 spectral orcs (D:14) 18 worker ants 22 sheep A big kobold zombie (D:7) A mottled dragon zombie (Depths:5) 2 ogre zombies 21 boggarts A dwarf skeleton (Depths:2) A centaur simulacrum (IceCv) A hound skeleton (D:11) 2 mottled dragon skeletons A mummy (D:10) A naga zombie (Depths:2) 3 ogre simulacra (IceCv) 41 gnolls 2 lemures (Depths:3) 36 adders 3 giant centipedes 3 hound simulacra (Lair:2) 54 green rats An inept feature mimic (D:8) 2 shadow imps 2 giant mites 2 white imps (Depths:3) 4 worms A naga simulacrum (IceCv) 2 ufetubi An adder zombie (D:5) 5 grey rats (D:7) 9 giant eyeballs 10 giant geckos 13 oozes 180 orcs 4 sheep simulacra (Lair:2) 27 bats A bat zombie (D:1) 10 giant cockroaches 19 goblins 16 hobgoblins 62 jackals 28 kobolds 12 quokkas 4 training dummies (D:12) 2 ball pythons 6 giant newts A giant spore (D:6) A goblin skeleton (D:4) A goblin zombie (D:5) 5 illusory rakshasas A kobold zombie (D:1) 2 orc skeletons 2 orc zombies A quokka zombie (D:5) 51 rats 4 rat simulacra (Lair:2) A rat skeleton (D:6) A ballistomycete (D:6) 3 plants 2694 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Norris (D:15) A golden dragon (Depths:4) A bone dragon (Depths:6) 3 liches 3 tentacled monstrosities A sphinx (Depths:3) A deep elf sorcerer (Depths:6) 3 fire giants Louise (D:14) 2 vault wardens (Vaults:4) 10 stone giants A reaper (Depths:5) A deep elf annihilator (Depths:5) A minotaur (shapeshifter) (Depths:6) 3 ettins A fire crab (Depths:5) A vault guard (Vaults:4) 6 yaktaur captains 2 fire dragons A hydra (Depths:1) An ironheart preserver (Vaults:2) A great orb of eyes (Vaults:3) A dancing weapon (Depths:5) 2 ogre magi (Depths:3) 3 deep troll shamans An orc high priest (Depths:5) 5 centaur warriors 7 very ugly things A naga warrior (Depths:1) A soul eater (Depths:1) 9 hell knights A skeletal warrior (Depths:5) A deep elf knight (Depths:5) A sea snake (Depths:5) 2 necromancers 10 deep trolls A flayed ghost (Depths:5) An orc sorcerer (Depths:5) 3 orc knights A harpy (shapeshifter) (Depths:4) A guardian serpent (Depths:5) A cyclops (D:15) A spiny worm (Vaults:2) An eye of devastation (Depths:5) A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Depths:4) A vault sentinel (Vaults:3) A shadow dragon simulacrum (Depths:4) A hellwing (Depths:5) 18 yaktaurs 2 two-headed ogres (Vaults:4) A giant firefly (shapeshifter) (Depths:5) 6 slime creatures A blink frog (shapeshifter) (Depths:5) A vampire (Depths:5) An air elemental (Depths:5) A golden eye (Depths:5) 19 ugly things A deep elf fighter (Vaults:4) A vampire mosquito (Vaults:2) A human zombie (Depths:4) 2 freezing wraiths (Vaults:4) 7 ogres A centaur (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 8 centaurs 2 rotting devils An eye of draining (Depths:5) A crimson imp (Depths:3) A lemure (Depths:3) A giant eyeball (Depths:3) 4 illusory rakshasas (Depths:4) 2 plants (Depths:4) 188 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A draconian caller (Depths:6) 20 vault guards (Vaults:5) A yaktaur captain (Depths:2) A hydra (Depths:2) 3 titan zombies A hellephant zombie (Depths:5) A storm dragon zombie (Vaults:4) An ogre mage (Depths:2) 2 golden dragon zombies (Depths:3) A hill giant (Depths:2) A centaur warrior (Depths:2) 6 very ugly thing zombies A deep troll (Depths:3) A spriggan zombie (Depths:1) 2 sphinx zombies 3 frost giant zombies 2 fire giant zombies 15 stone giant zombies 3 wolf spider zombies A slime creature (Depths:2) 2 vault sentinels (Vaults:5) 30 yaktaur zombies 4 iron troll zombies A yaktaur (Depths:2) A white draconian skeleton (Depths:6) 4 hydra zombies 10 centaur zombies 6 fire elementals 6 water elementals 6 ettin zombies A two-headed ogre (Depths:3) 4 ice dragon zombies A red wasp zombie (Vaults:4) 8 fire dragon zombies An ice dragon skeleton (Depths:6) 10 ugly thing zombies 2 hill giant zombies 2 humans (D:15) A deep elf fighter (Vaults:5) An elf skeleton (Vaults:3) 8 deep troll zombies An agate snail zombie (Vaults:3) A tengu skeleton (Depths:3) An elephant zombie (Depths:5) 8 human zombies A crocodile (Lair:7) 5 ogre skeletons 2 water moccasins (Lair:7) A giant frog (D:15) An ugly thing skeleton (Depths:3) 4 yaktaur skeletons 2 cyclops zombies A boulder beetle zombie (Vaults:4) A centaur skeleton (Vaults:4) 2 two-headed ogre zombies 10 ogre zombies 2 boggarts (Vaults:2) A dwarf skeleton (Depths:2) A naga zombie (Depths:3) An adder (Lair:7) 6 orc zombies 3 orc skeletons 3 orcs 3 giant spores (D:7) A jackal (D:6) 15 fungi 14 plants 267 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 3149 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | ssteam, the Lava Orc Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 2/2 350 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 4/20 MP: 0/4 952 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1477 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 23/26 MP: 4/6 1488 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 1644 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1644 | D:2 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 1732 | D:2 | Noticed Sigmund 1938 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 2148 | D:2 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 2149 | D:2 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 2149 | D:2 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 2149 | D:2 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 2150 | D:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 2159 | D:2 | Became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha 2376 | D:2 | HP: 1/26 [poison (a potion of poison)] 2792 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/33 MP: 4/7 3207 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3315 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 38/38 MP: 7/9 3378 | D:3 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's first power 3378 | D:3 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 3401 | D:3 | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Guide on Unholy Rites (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 3 of the Dungeon) 3458 | D:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 4787 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 35/45 MP: 6/10 4796 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Fire Magic 4809 | D:4 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's second power 5051 | D:4 | Found Thradwiutt's Antique Armour Boutique. 5651 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 6007 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 6082 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 6289 | D:5 | Noticed Shard1697's ghost (experienced HOFi) 6306 | D:5 | Killed Shard1697's ghost 6306 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Fire Magic 6306 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 24/50 MP: 12/12 6682 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Fire Magic 6951 | D:6 | Noticed Eustachio 7039 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 57/57 MP: 13/13 7148 | D:4 | Bought an orcish buckler for 52 gold pieces 7258 | D:6 | Noticed Dowan 7273 | D:6 | Reached skill level 9 in Fire Magic 7280 | D:6 | Noticed Duvessa 7323 | D:6 | Killed Dowan 7350 | D:6 | Killed Duvessa 7550 | D:6 | Found Zafota's Book Shop. 7620 | D:6 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 7633 | D:6 | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Collected Works on Darkness (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 6 of the Dungeon) 7726 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 8039 | D:6 | Killed Eustachio 8157 | D:6 | Learned a level 2 spell: Sublimation of Blood 8659 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 8659 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 56/62 MP: 15/15 8977 | D:6 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's third power 9349 | D:6 | i cleared out this gnoll vault and all i got was this lousy cheese 9471 | D:7 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 10112 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 10435 | D:7 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's fourth power 10472 | D:7 | Killed Prince Ribbit 10786 | D:7 | Killed a door mimic 11123 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 69/69 MP: 16/16 13584 | D:9 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 13919 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 13947 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 14399 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 14456 | Lair:2 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 14472 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 14510 | Lair:1 | Killed Gastronok 14779 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 74/74 MP: 19/22 14780 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 14846 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms 15215 | Lair:2 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 15535 | Lair:2 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 15553 | Lair:2 | Killed a five-headed hydra 15553 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms 15770 | Lair:2 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 15931 | Lair:2 | Noticed a necromancer 15963 | Lair:2 | Killed a necromancer 16378 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 16923 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 16937 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 16949 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 17266 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 17699 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 17718 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 18521 | D:2 | Identified a +2,+3 orcish trident of pain (a +1,+2 orcish trident bloodied by Kikubaaqudgha) 18746 | D:2 | Killed Sigmund 19362 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 85/96 MP: 19/24 20031 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Polearms 20423 | Lair:3 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 20441 | Lair:3 | Killed a six-headed hydra 20490 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 11 in Polearms 21562 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 12 in Polearms 21741 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 21743 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 21749 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 22662 | Lair:4 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 22753 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 13 in Polearms 22964 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 24373 | Lair:6 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 24384 | Lair:6 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 24384 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Polearms 24526 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 102/102 MP: 23/25 24874 | Lair:6 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 24898 | Lair:6 | Killed a five-headed hydra 25142 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy 25892 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 5 spell: Bolt of Draining 26390 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 26551 | Lair:7 | Found a frozen archway. 26770 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 27847 | IceCv | Got a transparent broad axe 27849 | IceCv | Got a transparent falchion 27916 | Lair:7 | Identified the +2,+6 falchion of Shefoul {flame, *Tele +Blink +Inv Dex+4 Int+2} (You found it in an ice cave) 28010 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Necromancy 28620 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 29105 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 88/115 MP: 17/26 29594 | Lair:8 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 29780 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 30018 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 31102 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 31857 | Lair:2 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 31987 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 32671 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 5 spell: Agony 33195 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 34732 | D:12 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 34812 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 34902 | D:12 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 34979 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 35213 | Lab | Got a fine amber ring 35375 | Lab | Identified the ring of Fratil {rF+ rN+ Str+3 Stlth++} (You found it in a labyrinth) 35649 | Lair:2 | Identified a +6 rod of warding (13/13) (You found it in a labyrinth) 36004 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 36004 | Orc:1 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 36096 | D:12 | Found Plienlus' Magical Wand Shoppe. 36549 | D:12 | Found Ymiefuh's Weapon Boutique. 37146 | D:12 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 37201 | Orc:1 | Noticed Psyche 37209 | Orc:1 | Killed Psyche 37559 | Orc:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 37844 | Orc:2 | Noticed Erolcha 37861 | Orc:2 | Killed Erolcha 38226 | Orc:1 | Noticed Joseph 38234 | Orc:1 | Killed Joseph 38626 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 38896 | Orc:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 39075 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 39293 | Orc:4 | Found Zabloras' Armour Emporium. 39321 | Orc:4 | Found Kusihuar's General Store. 39321 | Orc:4 | Found Trootom's Assorted Antiques. 39376 | Orc:3 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 81/121 MP: 12/28 39527 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 40066 | Orc:3 | Found Catsoali's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 40773 | Orc:4 | Found Meamimeg's General Store. 40773 | Orc:4 | Found Leezeser's Armour Shoppe. 40856 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 42 gold pieces 40856 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 42 gold pieces 40864 | Orc:4 | Bought a thick lapis lazuli amulet for 500 gold pieces 40871 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 40 gold pieces 40871 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 60 gold pieces 41267 | Orc:4 | Bought a hardcover book for 300 gold pieces 41269 | Orc:4 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 41482 | Lair:2 | hell yeah 41482 | Lair:2 | wand of haste 42754 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 43825 | D:14 | Noticed Nergalle 43826 | D:14 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 43881 | D:14 | Killed Nergalle 44124 | D:14 | Noticed Louise 44140 | D:14 | Killed Louise 44386 | D:14 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2). [potion of beneficial mutation] 45065 | D:14 | Noticed Urug 45074 | D:14 | Killed Urug 45200 | D:14 | Noticed Snorg 45209 | D:14 | Killed Snorg 45932 | D:14 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 45936 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 45982 | D:15 | Noticed Rupert 46177 | D:15 | Noticed Norris 46204 | D:15 | Killed Norris 46477 | D:15 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 46487 | D:15 | Killed Rupert 46595 | D:15 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 46798 | D:15 | Noticed Kirke 46811 | D:15 | Killed Kirke 47235 | D:15 | Noticed Azrael 47624 | D:4 | Bought an amethyst-encrusted leather armour for 182 gold pieces 47883 | Orc:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 24 gold pieces 47883 | Orc:3 | Bought a scroll of silence for 90 gold pieces 47883 | Orc:3 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 36 gold pieces 47883 | Orc:3 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 36 gold pieces 47936 | Orc:4 | Bought an encrusted granite ring for 500 gold pieces 47936 | Orc:4 | Bought a jade ring for 500 gold pieces 47937 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 47940 | Orc:4 | Identified the cursed +0 leather armour of Lugonu's Esteem {rF+ Int+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon) 48266 | D:15 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 120/135 MP: 31/31 48387 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 5 spell: Dispel Undead 48587 | D:16 | Entered Level 16 of the Dungeon 48988 | D:14 | Killed Azrael 50420 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 51482 | D:16 | Gained mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [a shining eye] 51886 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths 52122 | Lair:2 | holy crap i have 12 scrolls of magic mapping 52223 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 53906 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 53974 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Nikola 54906 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 58205 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Jorgrun 59922 | Swamp:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 110/141 MP: 7/32 60162 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 60479 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest 68240 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest 68979 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp 69943 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 72100 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 72318 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 72753 | Vaults:1 | Noticed a lich 72768 | Vaults:1 | Killed a lich 72885 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 161/161 MP: 21/32 75224 | Spider:5 | Identified a +4 rod of demonology (11/11) (You found it on level 5 of the Spider Nest) 77248 | Spider:5 | Noticed Arachne 77272 | Spider:5 | Killed Arachne 78259 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot 78560 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Animate Dead 78893 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Enchanted Forest. 79560 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 79728 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 81449 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 154/168 MP: 28/34 81667 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 84824 | Vaults:3 | Found Uhis' Assorted Antiques. 84833 | Vaults:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 74 gold pieces 84833 | Vaults:3 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 111 gold pieces 84837 | Vaults:3 | Bought a runed helmet for 92 gold pieces 88629 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging 89400 | Vaults:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 89478 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting 90048 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 95/178 MP: 35/35 91200 | Depths:1 | Noticed a golden dragon 91625 | Depths:1 | Noticed a titan 91638 | Depths:1 | Killed a titan 91638 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting 92064 | Depths:1 | Noticed Agnes 92066 | Depths:1 | Noticed Aizul 92078 | Depths:1 | Killed Agnes 92082 | Depths:1 | Killed Aizul 92468 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell. 92847 | Depths:1 | Found Qets' Distillery. 92891 | Depths:1 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces 93216 | Depths:1 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 93228 | Depths:1 | Your ally Agnes died 93591 | Depths:1 | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity 93636 | Depths:1 | Killed a tentacled monstrosity 93758 | Depths:1 | Killed a golden dragon 93758 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting 95032 | Depths:2 | Noticed a golden dragon 95077 | Depths:2 | Killed a golden dragon 96373 | Depths:2 | Got a transparent buckler 96379 | Depths:2 | Identified the cursed -8 buckler of Altruism {Int+4 Dam-4} (You found it on level 2 of the Depths) 99143 | Depths:2 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of beneficial mutation] 99417 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2). [potion of cure mutation] 99417 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of cure mutation] 99417 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [potion of cure mutation] 99761 | Depths:2 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 100047 | Depths:3 | Noticed a golden dragon 100070 | Depths:3 | Noticed a golden dragon 100472 | Depths:3 | Killed a golden dragon 100472 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Polearms 100472 | Depths:3 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 173/191 MP: 29/35 100732 | Depths:3 | Killed a golden dragon 103625 | Depths:3 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in iridescent scales (AC +4). [potion of beneficial mutation] 104454 | Depths:3 | Found Gagut's Magical Wand Boutique. 106746 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 18 in Polearms 106845 | Depths:4 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss. 108927 | Depths:4 | Got a fine steel amulet 108949 | Depths:4 | Identified the amulet of Jodexyim {Clar Str+3 Int+5} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) 109696 | Depths:4 | Got a faintly glowing blowgun 109697 | Depths:4 | Identified the +8 blowgun of Quarrel {evade, Noisy +Blink Str+3 SInv} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) 109728 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 19 in Polearms 110138 | Depths:4 | Identified the Almanac of Bloodstone 110931 | Depths:4 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 200/200 MP: 27/36 111482 | Depths:4 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 112098 | Depths:4 | Identified a +0 rod of the swarm (11/11) (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) 112313 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 20 in Polearms 113677 | D:6 | Bought a book of the Warp for 1170 gold pieces 113683 | D:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport 114103 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 115220 | Depths:5 | Got a faintly humming helmet 115226 | Depths:5 | Identified the cursed +0 helmet of the Land of Plenty {Int+1} (You found it on level 5 of the Depths) 115710 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 21 in Polearms 116212 | Depths:5 | Identified the Handbook of Aerial Companions 117156 | Depths:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Depths 117198 | Depths:6 | Got a smoking leather armour 117210 | Depths:6 | Identified the cursed +0 leather armour "Thegy" {Int+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Depths) 118922 | Depths:6 | Reached skill level 22 in Polearms 119672 | Depths:6 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot. 119681 | Depths:6 | Noticed Frederick 119691 | Depths:6 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 129/206 MP: 32/36 119714 | Depths:6 | Killed Frederick 120618 | Depths:6 | Found Oxataiju's Food Emporium. 120623 | Depths:6 | Bought a bread ration for 44 gold pieces 120623 | Depths:6 | Bought a bread ration for 44 gold pieces 120623 | Depths:6 | Bought a bread ration for 44 gold pieces 121976 | Depths:6 | Reached skill level 23 in Polearms 121986 | Depths:6 | Got a smoking halberd 121987 | Depths:6 | Identified the +9,+2 halberd "Beastbane" {chop, Dex+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Depths) 122627 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults 124903 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 24 in Polearms 125066 | Vaults:5 | HP: 10/206 [stone giant (45)] 125075 | Vaults:5 | HP: 3/206 [yaktaur/ bolt (10)] 125077 | Vaults:5 | Mangled by a tengu reaver Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 11 | | | | | | | 5 || 16 Dagger | 16 | | 3 | | | | | || 19 Whip | 18 | 94 | 28 | | | | | || 140 Flail | | | 53 | 36 | | | | || 89 Spear | | | 148 | 638 | | | | || 786 Trident | | | | 622 | 1826 | 3167 | 1918 | 555 || 8088 Rod | | | | | | 3 | | 3 || 6 Glaive | | | | | | | | 381 || 381 Throw: Tomahawk | | 1 | 5 | 4 | 1 | 6 | 3 | || 20 Cast: Flame Tongue | 77 | 138 | 285 | 265 | 199 | 83 | 18 | 21 || 1086 Conjure Flame | 1 | 4 | 10 | 42 | 110 | 67 | 43 | 13 || 290 Sticky Flame | | | 21 | 91 | 187 | 195 | 125 | 85 || 704 Bolt of Draining | | | | | 27 | 82 | 150 | 18 || 277 Fireball | | | | | 3 | 26 | 3 | 1 || 33 Agony | | | | | | 11 | 60 | 50 || 121 Dispel Undead | | | | | | 10 | 5 | 10 || 25 Animate Dead | | | | | | 7 | 88 | 44 || 139 Sublimation of Bl | | | | | | | 3 | 3 || 6 Control Teleport | | | | | | | | 2 || 2 Apportation | | | | | | | | 1 || 1 Invok: Receive Corpses | | | | | | | 7 | 4 || 11 Abil: Evoke Invisibilit | | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 7 | 9 | 13 || 42 lamp of fire | | | | | 2 | 1 | 3 | 3 || 9 phial of floods | | | | | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 || 5 stone of tremors | | | | | 1 | | | 2 || 3 disc of storms | | | | | | 1 | | || 1 Rod | | | | | | 16 | 65 | 49 || 130 Use: Potion | 4 | | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 9 | 6 || 29 Scroll | | 3 | 12 | 12 | 20 | 12 | 13 | 10 || 82 Stab: Sleeping | | | 4 | 6 | 21 | 36 | 8 | 5 || 80 Paralysed | | | 5 | | | | | || 5 Distracted | | | | | 4 | 7 | 22 | 8 || 41 Invisible | | | | | | | 5 | || 5

How the hell am I supposed to deal with vault wardens on V:5? The old Vaults ending was hard, but now that vault wardens exist it's almost as dangrous as Zot:5.

Friday, 24th January 2014, 13:06 by and into

Scalding Steam wrote:Splat on Vaults:5

How the hell am I supposed to deal with vault wardens on V:5? The old Vaults ending was hard, but now that vault wardens exist it's almost as dangrous as Zot:5.

You need to be prepared to take out Vault 5 without stair dancing. There are several ways to do this, but probably ?blinking + !speed is safest and easiest among the options that are nearly universal. Get into one of the hallways with the scroll, haste yourself with the potion, and put some distance between you and the central area, so you take out the guards in small groups at a time in the main corridor, then clear outer perimeter, slowly moving toward middle and clearing that, then go into and clear out each quadrant one-by-one.

Control tele and ?magic mapping also works but is riskier and more finicky, in my experience.

Friday, 24th January 2014, 16:36 by duvessa

You don't need blinking for that, unless you have like 20 max hp. Just haste before going downstairs and walk through one of the gaps in the vault guards.

Friday, 24th January 2014, 18:51 by and into

duvessa wrote:You don't need blinking for that, unless you have like 20 max hp. Just haste before going downstairs and walk through one of the gaps in the vault guards.

That's generally true (assuming not a naga) but sometimes nastier guys aside from the guaranteed vault guards can make that dicey. There are no restrictions on teleporting in V5 as you know. Then again it is always preferable to have a scroll of blinking, regardless.

In any case, Scalding Steam, just getting into one of the corridors as fast as possible is generally the safest way to handle V5 entrance. Stair dancing V5 takes unnecessary risks anyway, even not taking wardens into account.

Saturday, 25th January 2014, 13:22 by Scalding Steam

and into wrote:
Scalding Steam wrote:Splat on Vaults:5

How the hell am I supposed to deal with vault wardens on V:5? The old Vaults ending was hard, but now that vault wardens exist it's almost as dangrous as Zot:5.

You need to be prepared to take out Vault 5 without stair dancing. There are several ways to do this, but probably ?blinking + !speed is safest and easiest among the options that are nearly universal. Get into one of the hallways with the scroll, haste yourself with the potion, and put some distance between you and the central area, so you take out the guards in small groups at a time in the main corridor, then clear outer perimeter, slowly moving toward middle and clearing that, then go into and clear out each quadrant one-by-one.

Control tele and ?magic mapping also works but is riskier and more finicky, in my experience.

This seems like a reasonable strategy. However, I'm not sure I can take on 24 vault guards at the same time even when buffed (though I suppose corridor + lamp of fire will deal with that rather nicely), and besides, I'd be screwed if something with smite (say, a sphinx) shows up.

I think my main mistake was that I made too much noise (note to self: torment + immolation is not a viable V:5 strategy, LO of Kiku or not). However, a sentinel's mark would have still made everyone on the floor come for my ass anyway. Truly, those new Vaults monsters are dicks.

Saturday, 25th January 2014, 13:39 by Sandman25

In my last game I was wearing 2 rings of magic protection for Vaults 5 despite having much better rings. Maybe it was a bad idea but it worked nicely as I was not a tank and really wanted to control number of monsters in LoS at least in open terrain.

Saturday, 25th January 2014, 20:55 by Siegurt

Yeah, get into the side corridors and fight things there, fighting in the entryway just brings doom to your head. There's a lot of ways to get out of the ring of guards, blink being the easiest and most obvious, but there are some other ways. Regardless of *how* you do so, getting down the side passages and around a corner makes surviving MUCH easlier.

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