Life, Unlife and Existence


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Post Thursday, 1st December 2011, 15:56

Life, Unlife and Existence

Since the times when mummies and their already dead friends started to "contemplate the meaning of existence" why they are "dying" (You die...) when HP reaches zero value? Why not "Your existence is over" (another version is "Your unholy existence is over") or "Your body crumbles into pieces (or dust)".

Sorry for my bad english. May be this a tweak and should be reported using Mantis?
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Post Thursday, 1st December 2011, 19:30

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

IMHO, "You cease to exist" to those races which are not providing ghosts, otherwise "you die".
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Post Thursday, 1st December 2011, 20:21

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

How about, "You end."

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Post Thursday, 1st December 2011, 22:17

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

"you re-die"

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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 03:38

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

Nah, it's fine, you're just dead undead :D And when your'e raised you're undead undead, then die again you're dead undead undead.
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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 04:14

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

If we're going to tweak the "You die..." messages for specific (undead) races, then I think that player mummies should get to see their death curses kick in on their way out. :P

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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 04:40

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

On that topic, maybe Xom should have randomized messages and funny stuff, like "Welcome to DIE!"

Edit: Also, as for undead, it could get more complicated than you think. What do you do with necromutated characters, or with fully satiated vampires?

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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 04:49

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

Probably the best solution is to just get rid of death entirely.

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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 04:59

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

So, what then? Something like this?

The Ogre hits you with a giant spiked club!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You leave the dungeon in shame...
The best strategy most frequently overlooked by new players for surviving: not starting a fight to begin with.

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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 05:18

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

Or: "You die... again"

So should it be reported like "tweak" in Mantis (I mean I'm new to "tavern" and dont know do developers visit is often) ?

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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 08:40

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

"You return to the world of the dead."

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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 09:33

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

nicolae wrote:Probably the best solution is to just get rid of death entirely.

TwilightPhoenix wrote:So, what then? Something like this?

The Ogre hits you with a giant spiked club!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You leave the dungeon in shame...

HAHAHAHAHA

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Post Friday, 2nd December 2011, 10:39

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

FatBoy wrote:So should it be reported like "tweak" in Mantis (I mean I'm new to "tavern" and dont know do developers visit is often) ?

Mantis is for bug reports only. Feature requests and other suggestions go to the dev wiki. I cant find an appropriate page for this suggestion, this is the closest I found. I didn't do an in-depth search, so maybe you can find a better page. If you don't find one you should make a new page for message suggestions.

Short things like this can also be brought up and discussed on IRC. There usually are some devs in ##crawl-dev on freenode. They might also know the appropriate place to add this to the wiki.
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Post Saturday, 3rd December 2011, 01:11

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

greepish wrote:Nah, it's fine, you're just dead undead :D And when your'e raised you're undead undead, then die again you're dead undead undead.


What if you then become a Christian? Are you then a born-again dead undead undead? And if you fall away from the faith...
The Ed draws near! What dost thou deaux?

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