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Re: Leo Littlebook's thread
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Leo_Littlebook wrote:Nobody has said anything positive about the idea of exclusively studying DCSS' early game in order to figure out true combos. Instead there's been only demands for proof of wins. Which leads me to believe that nobody has done what I did:
Play all species simultaneously, switching to the lowest XL one after doing a few floors. Quit sometime between Lair and Depths, or sooner if the combo+playstyle feels wrong. Whenever quitting a species, start a new game for that species. Infinitely loop until confident that have found true combos and playstyles.
Leo_Littlebook wrote:Sure, I understand his motivations. I just didn't find it funny or interesting.
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Leo_Littlebook wrote:> How would I go about confirming a true combo?
Here are the rules:
1. Use every species once and only once
2. Use every god
3. Use every background
Looking forward to your list.
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Leo_Littlebook wrote:I am an expert on the early game, not extended.
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Leo_Littlebook wrote:In this context, something can be considered objectively true if no reasonable alternative can be proposed.
Leo_Littlebook wrote:I've given three selection rules. That narrows the field quite a bit, in a fully objective way.
Leo_Littlebook wrote:How you interpret "true" is up to you. You could just go by .23 elite win rate.
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Leo_Littlebook wrote:Uv4, my definition of objective truth as regards DCSS is appropriate. If you want a complete defense of my list, you can wait until I organize my notes during the demo. If you want to debate it now, you can provide a competing list to focus the discussion. The adversarial process is good enough to execute convicts, so it's good enough for DCSS.
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sanka wrote:I do not get the algorithm. Why OpWn instead of OpVM? I also do not really get why the algorithm chose Ashenzari for VpAE instead of Zin.
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Leo_Littlebook wrote:I do not trust you to be an intelligent dialogue partner communicating in good faith, so I require you to abide by the adversarial process, which creates an equality of exposure for the two sides.
Leo_Littlebook wrote:I don’t require you to play by adversarial rules.
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Leo_Littlebook wrote:I also don't think it's interesting to compare my list to a random one
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