Siegurt wrote:Black Demon wrote:I see, I didn't know that gifts drop piety
Strictly speaking gifts don't actually *drop* piety, you get a gift *instead* of gaining piety (Your piety doesn't literally drop as a direct result of getting a gift), however since piety decays over time, not gaining piety is sufficiently similar to losing it that the difference is all but academic.
I see this statement a lot, and I consider it deceit by omission because it doesn't mention how piety taper interacts with gifts.
When you get a god gift, you get some amount of "gift timeout", which is often thought of as negating a certain amount of future piety gain. But it's not quite that simple. With all gods except Ru, when you would gain a point of piety:
1. If you have gift timeout, it is decremented, and 75% of the time with non-Nemelex and non-Jiyva gods, this results in the point of piety not being gained.
2.
After that, if your piety is already at the maximum, or is above 160 and passes a 1/3 chance, or is above 100 and passes a 1/3 chance, the game will try to give you a god gift. The gift will fail if you have gift timeout, are above water or lava, or just aren't with a gifting god, but whether the gift succeeds or not, this results in the point of piety not being gained.
So let's say you get an Okawaru gift and get a gift timeout of 40. Ultimately, you'll effectively lose 30 piety as a result, right?
No. If you stay above 160 piety, you will only effectively lose 13.33 piety. This is because 55.56% of the time, your piety gain would have been negated
anyway by step 2, whereas the gift timeout
always gets decremented.
If you stayed above 100 piety but below 160, you would effectively lose 20 piety.
In other words,
gifts are "cheaper" once you reach **** and are even cheaper at ******. And Nemelex/Jiyva gifts are completely free.