Most dangerous foe


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What is the most dangerous foe in Crawl?

Poll ended at Wednesday, 21st September 2011, 22:58

Overconfidence
14
52%
Inattention
12
44%
Teh Stupid
1
4%
Other
0
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Total votes : 27

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Post Wednesday, 31st August 2011, 22:58

Most dangerous foe

My personal vote is for overconfidence, though often all three are hanging out on a level (usually Elf or Vault).

"Other" is if you can think of any particular monster or unique more dangerous than these (hydra, Mennas, Rupert).
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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 06:01

Re: Most dangerous foe

Hubris is a better term.
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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 09:25

Re: Most dangerous foe

The Abyss seems to have been left off the list.

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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 11:41

Re: Most dangerous foe

Inattention by far. I know how to play Crawl, I know which levels I should enter at what level and with which character, but for the life of me I can't take my fingers of the Tab key fast enough.

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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 11:51

Re: Most dangerous foe

Before temple - mostly bad luck and inattention. After that - overconfidence and inattention.

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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 13:41

Re: Most dangerous foe

Inattention by far. It spawns overconfidence and Teh Stoopid in its path like a giant spore drops ballistos, and it's just as likely to blow up in your face.

Even 27-head hydras and Mennas tangoing with Rupert can be defeated if inattention isn't hampering you. With inattention, a slowed, confused rat can pierce your jugular.

The Abyss is dangerous because inattention spawns in packs there.
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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 13:48

Re: Most dangerous foe

I find the other way around; it's Overconfidence that spams Inattention like there's no tomorrow ...
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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 16:53

Re: Most dangerous foe

Actually the most dangerous one is the one who exploits your long- and short-term weaknesses.
If your characters are weak in melee, it's Rupert or Snorg. If your characters are weak in dispelling clones, your deadly foes are ancient liches, rakshasa and Mara. If your characters have a player who is inattentive, overconfident and stupid, it's the player who is their most dangerous foe -- or, if said precisely, most dangerous ally and commander.
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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 18:29

Re: Most dangerous foe

Someone should make a murderous hubris level for Pan with -CTELE and lock-down/pre-map all the exits and the entrance.
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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 20:25

Re: Most dangerous foe

XuaXua wrote:Someone should make a murderous hubris level for Pan with -CTELE and lock-down/pre-map all the exits and the entrance.



even better if they spell out "Artifacts Here" with floor trash when you port in.

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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 20:37

Re: Most dangerous foe

XuaXua wrote:Someone should make a murderous hubris level for Pan with -CTELE and lock-down/pre-map all the exits and the entrance.


But I thought the levels with the unique Pan lords were already like that. Sure, maybe the exits aren't actually locked down, but people see the arrival message and think "Uh oh! I'll lose a rune if I leave NOW..."
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Post Thursday, 1st September 2011, 21:09

Re: Most dangerous foe

Happy Corner wrote:
XuaXua wrote:Someone should make a murderous hubris level for Pan with -CTELE and lock-down/pre-map all the exits and the entrance.


But I thought the levels with the unique Pan lords were already like that. Sure, maybe the exits aren't actually locked down, but people see the arrival message and think "Uh oh! I'll lose a rune if I leave NOW..."


You can still leave those levels easily.
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Post Saturday, 3rd September 2011, 17:48

Re: Most dangerous foe

I couldn't leave. (Well, if I would ever get to Pan anyway)
I have to get every single portal/rune/unique if somehow possible - that's why my most dangerous foe is the shaft trap...

Also overconfidence for sure! Playing careful (retreating, stair dancing, leaving dangerous enemies alone, ...) one can tackle most areas even with weak characters. But sometimes it feels lame to stairdance the vault guards on v8 and more awesome just blasting them with mephitic cloud and darting down some unknown corridor for retreat while dragons scorch your ass.
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2011, 23:41

Re: Most dangerous foe

TAB key...

I lost my best 2 runer KoBe fighing with TAB key some alone skeletal warrior when a "something of fire" (did not remember what was) had 3 free turns to throw flames at me, then inevitable death!! :(

I was using TAB since the skeletal warrior was unable to hurt me much, and its HP were slowling descending...

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Post Friday, 30th September 2011, 14:11

Re: Most dangerous foe

The most dangerous foe is that blasted Orb. It's at fault for all these heros throwing themselves at this carnivorous dungeon in the first place. Just think of all the scientific and cultural advancements that could have been had if the entrance to "The Dungeon" were just sealed forever and people didn't rely on the promise of an incredible, infinite-wish-granting Deus ex Machina to solve all their problems.

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Post Friday, 30th September 2011, 18:12

Re: Most dangerous foe

You stand before the entrance to the Dungeon of Zot.
The entrance is permanently sealed.
You turn back to town.
You take up a career as a patent clerk.

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Post Friday, 30th September 2011, 21:51

Re: Most dangerous foe

That XL:20 Kobozerker Ghost who died on DL:7 after abandoning Trog in the temple, then ran from summons up the stairs and got Mauled there.

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 15:21

Re: Most dangerous foe

Grimm wrote:You take up a career as a patent clerk.

You are assigned to sort out some old, unused files.
You find an ancient patent filed by a Mr Zot relating to an orb he has invented.
You start to wonder...

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 15:39

Re: Most dangerous foe

I can sense you beginning to plot DCSS: The Movie.

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 15:50

Re: Most dangerous foe

Grimm wrote:I can sense you beginning to plot DCSS: The Movie.

In terms of tone I'm going to go for something between The Goonies and Animal House.

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 15:58

Re: Most dangerous foe

With Samuel Jackson as Sigmund.
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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 16:16

Re: Most dangerous foe

Grimm wrote:With Samuel Jackson as Sigmund.

You think Mr. Jackson is badass enough to play a bully? Yeah, I think he really is.

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 16:17

Re: Most dangerous foe

Grimm wrote:I can sense you beginning to plot DCSS: The Movie.



It would have to be like a Tarenino film. It tells the story of multiple characters over course of many disjointed scenes, each one of which ends with a violent death.

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 16:20

Re: Most dangerous foe

Yet Another Stupid Noob wrote:
Grimm wrote:I can sense you beginning to plot DCSS: The Movie.



It would have to be like a Tarenino film. It tells the story of multiple characters over course of many disjointed scenes, each one of which ends with a violent death.

Made me go LMAO right away :lol:

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 16:23

Re: Most dangerous foe

"Which scythe is yours?"
"The one that's inscribed 'Bad Motherfucker'!"

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 17:59

Re: Most dangerous foe

I think you're going the wrong way with this. DCSS:TM isn't going to be an action-packed blockbuster. It's going to be Groundhog Day with the RNG making sure every day is a different death.

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Post Wednesday, 5th October 2011, 18:06

Re: Most dangerous foe

DCSS: The Search for Curly's Gold

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Post Tuesday, 11th October 2011, 15:23

Re: Most dangerous foe

Grimm wrote:"Which scythe is yours?"
"The one that's inscribed 'Bad Motherfucker'!"

And let's not forget, "I am sick and tired of these motherf***in' snakes in this motherf***in' pit!"
You fall off the wall. You have a feeling of ineptitude.

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