Does anyone else like New Barachians?

[Vajrapani]

I've done a fair amount of shit talking on frogs and hated them pretty much from inception, but now they're actually not that bad to play now. But that's probably because a strong race with a few drawbacks,like slow and LOS+1, is more enjoyable to play than a weak race with a single gimmick.

[Reptisaurus]

I'm playing one for the first time. Feels pretty strong in the current version.

[duvessa]

Yeah, 8los is a cool drawback, although the default message area size in console needs a corresponding adjustment. I don't think they're strong right now; slow movement is still Bad, the 8los is an additional weakness, and hop is pretty lousy. But they aren't extremely weak either. (Calls attention to how freaking bad nagas are...)

[bananaken]

Barachians are pretty cool now. Funnily enough I'm pretending they're high elves and making a hybrid blaster caster of sorts and the new apts makes it pretty viable. Their slow speed makes for some rough starts though.

[MainiacJoe]

I'm curious, have any spell ranges been adjusted for Ba, or does Magic Dart say not reach the most distant squares of LOS?

[shping]

Things that are "LOS range" remain LOS range, and thus go up.

To my knowledge, there isn't anything that's explicitly range 7 and would not go up to 8 on a Ba, but there are plenty of things I don't know.

[Reptisaurus]

The LoS changes have had no effect on my current game - I'm not sure I would have noticed if it wasn't explicitly pointed out.

And hop is basically semi-controlled blink, right? Seems extremely powerful to me, especially after level twelve.

[duvessa]

Semi-controlled blink is considerably less powerful when you're slow and can only use it once

[tasonir]

For lazy people at work: What buff did barachians get? Higher aptitudes, hp, etc? Seems like a good concept but I can't roll one at the office

[papilio]

I would rate new Barachians around mid-tier or very slightly higher. (was "shit tier" before)
Similar to where I rate Formicids.

[Elitist]

I would rate new Barachians around mid-tier or very slightly higher. (was "shit tier" before)
Similar to where I rate Formicids.

Formicids are dumb strong once they find a shield. Barachians can pick up anything from the floor and be dumb strong. They're weaker minotaurs, but minotaurs are stupid powerful.