What's the point of playing crawl?


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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 05:29

What's the point of playing crawl?

What's the point of playing crawl? Is it just a time killer like tetris?
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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 05:34

Re: What's the point of playing crawl?

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Is it just a time killer like tetris?

yes it's a video game

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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 05:49

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What are time killers and what are not?
If you're defining time killer as something that doesn't help you to earn more money, then Crawl would fall into there.
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For me time killer is a game which I forget in 5 minutes after it's over, it has no events worth remembering.
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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 08:08

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VeryAngryFelid wrote:I accidentally noticed that I won an OpFi of Qazlal with 15 runes without any transmutations or conjurations


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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 08:24

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To have fun.
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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 09:10

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To keep your mind occupied thus preventing you from contemplating the utter depths of your loneliness in the world and keeping you from having to face the boundless horror of human existence.

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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 09:17

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Dioneo wrote:To keep your mind occupied thus preventing you from contemplating the utter depths of your loneliness in the world and keeping you from having to face the boundless horror of human existence.


Sad but true :(
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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 13:58

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Why every game i play there are people around me having existentialism crisis? Go stare at the sky for the whole day if that makes you feel more accomplished by the end of it.

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i play to kill dudes

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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 16:34

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Dioneo wrote:To keep your mind occupied thus preventing you from contemplating the utter depths of your loneliness in the world and keeping you from having to face the boundless horror of human existence.

"That the ascetic ideal has meant so much to man, however, is an expression of the basic fact of the human will, its horror vacui [horror of emptiness]: it needs a goal,—and it would rather will nothingness than not will."
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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 16:43

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If you're worried that playing crawl is a waste of time, you're going to be horrified when you think about what posting on Tavern is.

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Lasty wrote:If you're worried that playing crawl is a waste of time, you're going to be horrified when you think about what posting on Tavern is.


That's an interesting perspective; couldn't you argue that trying to communicate with one's fellow beings (however futile such efforts occasionally seem around here) is at least potentially more worthwhile than sitting in solitude while performing more or less repetitive actions at a computer?

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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 20:22

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Lasty wrote:If you're worried that playing crawl is a waste of time, you're going to be horrified when you think about what posting on Tavern is.


That's an interesting perspective; couldn't you argue that trying to communicate with one's fellow beings (however futile such efforts occasionally seem around here) is at least potentially more worthwhile than sitting in solitude while performing more or less repetitive actions at a computer?


Posting in the tavern is a more or less repetitive action ;)
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Siegurt wrote:Posting in the tavern is a more or less repetitive action ;)


Other Taverns posters are (at least in theory) capable of providing some sort of intellectually stimulating exchange or even, dare I say it, maybe even a sense of shared humanity and understanding, while computer games rarely engage beyond a momentary distraction. Of course, neither will ultimately fill the void of the human soul, but I'm still inclined to value one as a more noble thing to strive for; in the words of Meek Mill: "It's levels to this shit".
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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 22:32

Re: What's the point of playing crawl?

To see more zany combinations of things, get that rush of thinking you might win far too soon (oops, splat!), and occasionally surprise yourself by doing something new that works without thinking much about it.

I also quite like the general exploration and fantasy theme. It's a bit like playing an MMO without all the hassle of dealing with super high tech and constant people pressure (occasional forum crazy aside hehe).

And for something played on a bunch of squares with tiny icons, the visuals are actually fairly amusing too. 8-)
(Of course if you can "read" ASCII version, you might say they're fun to interpret rather than simply view or something, I dunno.)
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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 22:46

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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 23:01

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Dioneo wrote:
Siegurt wrote:Posting in the tavern is a more or less repetitive action ;)


Other Taverns posters are (at least in theory) capable of providing some sort of intellectually stimulating exchange or even, dare I say it, maybe even a sense of shared humanity and understanding, while computer games rarely engage beyond a momentary distraction. Of course, neither will ultimately fill the void of the human soul, but I'm still inclined to value one as a more noble thing to strive for; in the words of Meek Mill: "It's levels to this shit".


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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 23:04

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Vajrapani wrote:Ah, babby's first existential crisis.


Where in my post do you find this "crisis"?

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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 23:08

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Vajrapani wrote:Ah, babby's first existential crisis.


Where in my post do you find this "crisis"?


The long-winded run-on sentences that read like they got copy-pasted from some depressing Cioran text.
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Post Friday, 3rd February 2017, 23:14

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Vajrapani wrote:The long-winded run-on sentences that read like they got copy-pasted from some depressing Cioran text.


I would've thought that concluding my post by linking to a Meek Mill song would indicate that I'm not exactly writing from a point of despair. Though if I were actually embroiled in such a crisis, surely your sarcastic and dismissive post would not be a productive way to respond? :P

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Post Saturday, 4th February 2017, 05:56

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Vajrapani wrote:Ah, babby's first existential crisis.


Lol. My first existential crisis was much earlier than at age 40 and much weaker.
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Post Thursday, 9th February 2017, 19:53

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I thought your post was good Dioneo. Nevermind these Philistines.

I realize that my entire life has been an attempt to be a sort of ghost, a passive quiet entranced outlet through which my inner sorrow and loneliness can pass without causing me more pain than is necessary. I want to shut myself off, be no one and feel nothing. Let the waves of pain flow through me without touching. Nothing can touch me, neither past present nor future, because I am simply not here. I feel neither pleasure nor pain. Thats what crawl means to me.

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Post Thursday, 9th February 2017, 21:13

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lethediver wrote:Nothing can touch me, neither past present nor future, because I am simply not here. I feel neither pleasure nor pain. Thats what crawl means to me.

This reminds me of the lyrics to the song Coma, specifically this part:

Nothing
(Nothing)
Now that I have nothing
(Now that I have nothing)
I resolve to be nothing
(I resolve to be nothing)
Nothing to harm me, nothing to gain

It's actually a really good song, from buckethead, has some background vocals from serj (of system of a down), and the main singer is apparently Azam Ali, who I don't know from anywhere else but she's great on this song.

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Post Thursday, 9th February 2017, 21:41

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lethediver wrote:Nothing can touch me, neither past present nor future, because I am simply not here. I feel neither pleasure nor pain. Thats what crawl means to me.

This reminds me of the lyrics to the song Coma, specifically this part:

Nothing
(Nothing)
Now that I have nothing
(Now that I have nothing)
I resolve to be nothing
(I resolve to be nothing)
Nothing to harm me, nothing to gain

It's actually a really good song, from buckethead


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Post Monday, 13th February 2017, 06:39

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Dioneo wrote:
Lasty wrote:If you're worried that playing crawl is a waste of time, you're going to be horrified when you think about what posting on Tavern is.


That's an interesting perspective; couldn't you argue that trying to communicate with one's fellow beings (however futile such efforts occasionally seem around here) is at least potentially more worthwhile than sitting in solitude while performing more or less repetitive actions at a computer?



Is there a difference? We cannot know whether or not the Tavern is a Chinese Room experiment, as espoused by Searle and later Dennett. Tavern responses to our own posts could just be assembled by automatons with no real understanding, and thus all of our interaction on here is purely illusory.

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Post Monday, 13th February 2017, 10:05

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webtiles is a thing, with real people in there, believe it or not.

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Post Monday, 13th February 2017, 14:37

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You can SSH to it while at work :D :D :D :D
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