Instant death on stairs -


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Mines Malingerer

Posts: 43

Joined: Saturday, 27th August 2016, 04:51

Location: Folsom, Ca, USA

Post Monday, 2nd January 2017, 20:38

Instant death on stairs -

Is there any way/advice to prevent instant death from going down stars? Went down stairs with full 167 HP and died without being to do a single move. Not the first time for me.

Message History

The lightning arc hits the merfolk impaler.
The lightning arc hits you!
The lightning arc hits the merfolk impaler.
The lightning arc hits you!
You hear a shout! You hear a screech! x2; You hear a shout! x2
You hear a screech! x3; You hear a shout! You hear an angry hiss.
There is a stone staircase leading up, spattered with blood here.
The merfolk impaler barely misses you.
The manticore flicks its tail.
The volley of spikes hits you!
Nikola casts a spell.
You hear a mighty clap of thunder!
The lightning arc hits you!
The lightning arc hits the merfolk impaler.
The merfolk impaler dies!
You hear a splash. x2
The lightning arc hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The lightning arc hits Nikola. The lightning arc hits you!
You die...

-3/167 HPs

  Code:
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.1-1-g22dce08 (webtiles) character file.

92393 DeepDeath the Bludgeoner (level 16, -3/167 HPs)
             Began as an Ogre Berserker on Jan 2, 2017.
             Was a High Priest of Trog.
             Killed from afar by Nikola (31 damage)
             ... with a chain lightning
             ... on level 2 of the Shoals.
             The game lasted 02:50:52 (31900 turns).

DeepDeath the Bludgeoner (Ogre Berserker)          Turns: 31900, Time: 02:50:52

Health: -3/167     AC: 14    Str: 26    XL:     16   Next: 5%
Magic:  16/16      EV: 21    Int:  6    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold:   2344       SH:  0    Dex: 14    Spells: 0 memorised, 15 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis .    w - +8 whip "Snakebite" {curare, rPois}
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    A - +3 troll leather armour {Snorg}
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (no shield)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    E - +2 hat
rElec  .          Reflect  .    a - +2 cloak {MR+}
rCorr  .          Harm     .    (gloves unavailable)
MR     +++++      Clarity  +    (boots unavailable)
Stlth  +.........               y - amulet of regeneration
                                W - ring of protection from magic
                                M - +3 ring of evasion

@: regenerating
A: unfitting armour, clarity, tough skin 1
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You were on level 2 of the Shoals.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was extremely pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and saw 24 of its levels.
You also visited: Bailey.

You collected 2794 gold pieces.
You spent 450 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 e - a +4 great mace of protection
 q - a +2 blowgun
 s - a +5 great mace of holy wrath
 w - the +8 whip "Snakebite" (weapon) {curare, rPois}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It poisons the flesh of those it strikes.
   
   It protects you from poison.
Missiles
 c - 3 throwing nets
 i - 2 needles of frenzy
 k - 13 steel javelins
 F - 6 curare-tipped needles
 O - 19 large rocks (quivered)
 X - 2 javelins of penetration
Armour
 a - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 m - a +2 robe of fire resistance
 A - a +3 troll leather armour (worn) {Snorg}
 E - a +2 hat (worn)
Rods
 r - a +0 lightning rod (11/11)
   (You found it on level 3 of the Dungeon)
Jewellery
 f - the ring "Cussatoy" {rF+ rC+ Dex-3 Slay+3 Stlth+}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   
   It affects your dexterity (-3).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 y - an amulet of regeneration (around neck)
 H - a +4 ring of protection
 M - a +3 ring of evasion (left hand)
 R - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 W - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
Wands
 C - a wand of disintegration (9/24)
 D - a wand of acid (8/15)
 T - a wand of iceblast (3/15)
 Z - a wand of lightning (10/15)
Scrolls
 b - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 d - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 h - 3 scrolls of recharging
 l - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
 u - 2 scrolls of blinking
 B - 4 scrolls of noise
 K - a scroll of summoning
 S - 2 scrolls of fear
 U - a scroll of fog
Potions
 g - 3 potions of flight
 n - 5 potions of cancellation
 p - 6 potions of lignification
 t - 8 potions of curing
 v - 4 potions of haste
 x - 2 potions of heal wounds
 z - 3 potions of berserk rage
 Q - a potion of resistance
 V - a potion of might
 Y - 4 potions of invisibility
Books
 J - a book of Necromancy   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Pain                         Necromancy                    1
    b - Animate Skeleton             Necromancy                    1
    c - Vampiric Draining            Necromancy                    3
    d - Regeneration                 Charms/Necromancy             3
    e - Animate Dead                 Necromancy                    4
    f - Control Undead               Necromancy                    4
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
Miscellaneous
 N - a fan of gales
Comestibles
 j - 3 chunks of flesh
 o - 9 meat rations
 L - 2 bread rations


   Skills:
 + Level 12.9 Fighting
 - Level 20.0 Maces & Flails
 - Level 12.7 Throwing
 - Level 5.1 Armour
 - Level 14.0 Dodging


You had 15 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (13/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (2/4) Lair:2        Snake (0/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:13

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:5 %   D:6 *   D:12 [   Orc:2 %:*(

Annotations:
Shoals:2 Nikola


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have tough skin. (AC +1)
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.


Message History

The lightning arc hits the merfolk impaler.
The lightning arc hits you!
The lightning arc hits the merfolk impaler.
The lightning arc hits you!
You hear a shout! You hear a screech! x2; You hear a shout! x2
You hear a screech! x3; You hear a shout! You hear an angry hiss.
There is a stone staircase leading up, spattered with blood here.
The merfolk impaler barely misses you.
The manticore flicks its tail.
The volley of spikes hits you!
Nikola casts a spell.
You hear a mighty clap of thunder!
The lightning arc hits you!
The lightning arc hits the merfolk impaler.
The merfolk impaler dies!
You hear a splash. x2
The lightning arc hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The lightning arc hits Nikola. The lightning arc hits you!
You die...

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You could see Nikola and a manticore.

Vanquished Creatures
  Rupert (Lair:6)
  Frances (Shoals:1)
  Gastronok (Lair:1)
  An orc warlord (Orc:1)
  Aizul (Shoals:2)
  The ghost of Timidly the Bludgeoner, a journeyman HuBe of Trog (Lair:6)
  Nessos (D:13)
  A fire dragon (Lair:6)
  Snorg (Lair:4)
  A catoblepas (Lair:4)
  8 hydras
  Erolcha (D:9)
  7 vault guards (D:13)
  A merfolk avatar (Shoals:1)
  A tengu warrior (D:13)
  Urug (Lair:2)
  An orc high priest (Orc:1)
  The ghost of perryhs the Ruffian, a novice TrFi (D:7)
  A slime creature (D:12)
  The ghost of Timidly the Poker, a novice HuBe of Trog (D:6)
  An unseen horror (D:11)
  A sea snake (Shoals:1)
  8 hill giants
  A deep elf archer (Orc:1)
  A necromancer (Lair:4)
  8 orc knights
  2 deep elf magi (Orc:1)
  6 fauns
  2 manticores
  2 orc sorcerers
  A wolf spider (Lair:6)
  2 ugly things
  A guardian serpent (Lair:6)
  2 cyclopes
  Psyche (D:12)
  A siren (Shoals:1)
  5 black mambas
  An elephant (D:8)
  6 torpor snails (Lair:6)
  A centaur zombie (D:13)
  A kobold demonologist (Orc:1)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:1)
  17 spiny frogs
  8 merfolk
  A polar bear (Lair:6)
  A wind drake (Shoals:1)
  12 hornets (Lair:6)
  4 tyrant leeches (Lair:6)
  A two-headed ogre (D:11)
  18 blink frogs
  9 hippogriffs
  2 snapping turtles (Shoals:1)
  A redback (Lair:6)
  2 wraiths (D:10)
  A water elemental (Shoals:1)
  A spriggan (D:13)
  8 wyverns
  A vampire (D:13)
  A hill giant zombie (D:10)
  4 basilisks
  4 hungry ghosts
  11 wargs
  32 yaks
  4 vampire mosquitoes (D:13)
  A naga (Lair:3)
  A soldier ant (D:13)
  22 water moccasins
  10 porcupines
  4 phantoms
  4 sky beasts
  2 black bears
  A hornet zombie (D:13)
  42 orc warriors
  5 ice beasts
  2 necrophages
  An eye of draining (D:10)
  12 wolves
  15 ogres
  11 crocodiles
  7 centaurs
  11 big kobolds
  10 bullfrogs
  A wyvern skeleton (D:10)
  2 scorpions
  2 troll zombies (D:10)
  23 killer bees
  3 electric eels
  4 wights
  A bullfrog zombie (D:6)
  10 crimson imps
  2 quasits
  2 hounds
  6 jellies
  15 orc priests
  7 bullfrog skeletons
  A gnoll shaman (D:2)
  16 orc wizards
  3 centaur skeletons
  7 iguanas
  17 worker ants
  2 polar bear simulacra (Lair:4)
  2 yak simulacra (Lair:4)
  5 wolf simulacra (Lair:4)
  3 ogre zombies (D:10)
  2 hound skeletons (D:5)
  A howler monkey zombie (D:6)
  2 worker ant zombies
  12 gnolls
  25 adders
  A river rat (Lair:6)
  A shadow imp (D:11)
  5 oozes
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  2 worms (D:2)
  2 dart slugs
  9 leopard geckos
  118 orcs
  A ball python (D:3)
  8 bats
  8 giant cockroaches
  15 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  16 jackals
  18 kobolds
  6 quokkas
  5 frilled lizards
  A goblin skeleton (D:10)
  A goblin zombie (D:10)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:10)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:10)
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:6)
  3 orc skeletons (D:10)
  12 orc zombies (D:10)
  9 rats
  2 river rat simulacra (Lair:4)
  2 fungi (Lair:2)
  5 plants
829 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 merfolk impalers (Shoals:2)
  4 fungi (Lair:6)
  14 plants (Lair:6)
20 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 849 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | DeepDeath the Ogre Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 24/24 MP: 1/1
   113 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/32 MP: 2/2
   325 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
   612 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 32/39 MP: 3/3
  1144 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  1148 | D:2      | Reached ** piety under Trog
  1191 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 48/48 MP: 4/4
  2231 | D:3      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  2299 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 23/54 MP: 5/5
  2767 | D:3      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  3312 | D:3      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  3312 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 57/62 MP: 6/6
  3706 | D:4      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  3736 | D:4      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  4412 | D:4      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  4412 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/70 MP: 7/7
  4681 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4848 | D:5      | Found Poiw's Food Shoppe.
  5105 | D:5      | Got an ichor-stained buckler
  5131 | D:5      | Got a sheer robe
  5301 | D:4      | Identified the +1 robe of Myattazu {+Blink} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  5808 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  5818 | D:6      | Noticed Timidly's ghost (novice HuBe)
  6267 | D:6      | Killed Timidly's ghost
  6267 | D:6      | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
  6267 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 78/78 MP: 8/8
  6525 | D:6      | Reached **** piety under Trog
  6590 | D:6      | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
  6661 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 50/84 MP: 9/9
  6933 | D:6      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  7157 | D:6      | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
  7346 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
  7515 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  7678 | D:6      | Found Gello's Assorted Antiques.
  7957 | D:7      | Noticed perryhs's ghost (novice TrFi)
  7977 | D:7      | Killed perryhs's ghost
  8168 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 92/92 MP: 10/10
  8169 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  8178 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  8933 | D:8      | Noticed an elephant
  9050 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  9292 | D:8      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  9382 | D:8      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  9523 | D:8      | Killed an elephant
  9588 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9604 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
  9624 | D:8      | Reached ***** piety under Trog
  9933 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
  9944 | D:9      | Killed Erolcha
 10056 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 10270 | D:9      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
 10492 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10492 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 10504 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 10734 | D:6      | Bought a black potion for 23 gold pieces
 10734 | D:6      | Bought a scroll labeled TUZEIZOECE for 26 gold pieces
 10734 | D:6      | Bought a scroll labeled QAIH RIZEIJEJI for 26 gold pieces
 11001 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 104/104 MP: 11/11
 11108 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 11417 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 11434 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 11439 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
 11630 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
 14232 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14279 | Lair:1   | Noticed Gastronok
 14307 | Lair:1   | Killed Gastronok
 14307 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 14444 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/123 MP: 12/12
 14714 | Lair:1   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 14728 | Lair:1   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 14728 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 15554 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 15581 | Lair:2   | Noticed Urug
 15668 | Lair:2   | Killed Urug
 15676 | Lair:2   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 15738 | Lair:2   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 15805 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 16820 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Throwing
 17134 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 17223 | Lair:3   | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
 17491 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 17705 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 127/136 MP: 13/13
 17818 | Lair:4   | Noticed Snorg
 17836 | Lair:4   | Killed Snorg
 17942 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 18404 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 19263 | Lair:5   | Got a shimmering copper ring
 19297 | Lair:4   | Identified the ring "Cussatoy" {rF+ rC+ Dex-3 Slay+3 Stlth+} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19494 | Lair:5   | Found a runed door.
 19494 | Lair:5   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 19494 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 19512 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 19603 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 16 in Maces & Flails
 19984 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 19984 | Lair:6   | Noticed Timidly's ghost (journeyman HuBe)
 20282 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 20302 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
 21018 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 21018 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 21077 | Orc:1    | Noticed an orc warlord
 21116 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc warlord
 21116 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 149/149 MP: 14/14
 21673 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 22038 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 22332 | Orc:2    | Found Zagh's Food Emporium.
 22332 | Orc:2    | Found Lar Ass's Book Shop.
 22540 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 22713 | Orc:2    | Found Wami's Weapon Shop.
 22713 | Orc:2    | Found Vaycs's Assorted Antiques.
 22730 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 98 gold pieces
 22730 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 140 gold pieces
 22730 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll labeled EKHLOU GUNKIBE for 28 gold pieces
 22730 | Orc:2    | Bought a white potion for 25 gold pieces
 22730 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 84 gold pieces
 22859 | D:11     | Reached skill level 17 in Maces & Flails
 23698 | D:12     | Found a flagged portal.
 23710 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 24493 | Bailey   | Received a gift from Trog
 25913 | D:12     | Found Ahopsigh's Armour Shop.
 26159 | D:12     | Reached skill level 18 in Maces & Flails
 26322 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
 26523 | D:12     | Noticed Psyche
 26529 | D:12     | Killed Psyche
 26817 | D:12     | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 27037 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 27378 | D:13     | Noticed Nessos
 27397 | D:13     | Killed Nessos
 27397 | D:13     | Reached skill level 19 in Maces & Flails
 27776 | D:13     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 133/157 MP: 15/15
 27917 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 28187 | D:13     | Reached skill level 20 in Maces & Flails
 28642 | Lair:6   | Killed Timidly's ghost
 28718 | Lair:6   | Paralysed by a hornet for 2 turns
 29171 | Lair:6   | Paralysed by a hornet for 3 turns
 29272 | Lair:6   | Noticed Rupert
 29295 | Lair:6   | Killed Rupert
 29583 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 30068 | Lair:6   | Found a runed door.
 30178 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 30599 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 30844 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Frances
 30900 | Shoals:1 | Killed Frances
 31642 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Aizul
 31663 | Shoals:2 | Killed Aizul
 31663 | Shoals:2 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 167/167 MP: 16/16
 31740 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Nikola
 31900 | Shoals:2 | Killed from afar by Nikola

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------+-----
Maces & Flails |     5  6  7  8 10 13 14 15          16 19 20 | 20.0
Throwing       |                          3  6  8 10 12       | 12.7
Dodging        |                          4  6  8 10 11    14 | 14.0
Armour         |                          3  4        5       |  5.1
Fighting       |                             6  9 11 12       | 12.9

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |   109 |   220 |   263 |   763 |       |       ||  1355
       Whip              |       |       |       |   137 |  1607 |    35 ||  1779
       Great mace        |       |       |       |       |   122 |       ||   122
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |       |       |     6 |       ||     6
Throw: Stone             |     1 |     5 |    13 |    14 |       |       ||    33
       Tomahawk          |       |       |     6 |     2 |       |       ||     8
       Javelin           |       |       |       |    15 |    34 |     9 ||    58
       Large rock        |       |       |       |       |    25 |     6 ||    31
       Throwing net      |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Invok: Berserk           |     2 |     4 |     6 |     8 |     9 |       ||    29
       Trog's Hand       |       |     3 |     6 |    13 |    25 |     1 ||    48
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |     2 |       |     3 |       ||     5
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     7 |     2 |       ||     9
       Rod               |       |       |       |    22 |    27 |       ||    49
  Use: Scroll            |     4 |     9 |     1 |     8 |    18 |       ||    40
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |     1 |     6 |     2 ||    11
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     1 |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     3
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |       ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |     9 |    12 |    23 |    33 |     1 ||    80
       Bread ration      |       |     1 |     1 |     3 |     3 |       ||     8
       Fruit             |       |     3 |       |     4 |     5 |       ||    12
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     1 |     2 |     1 |       ||     4
       Royal jelly       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |     2 |     2 |       ||     4
       Pizza             |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Armor: Animal skin       |    33 |    50 |    10 |       |       |       ||    93
       Robe              |       |       |    60 |   233 |     7 |       ||   300
       Skin              |       |       |     4 |       |       |       ||     4
       Troll leather arm |       |       |       |       |   264 |    19 ||   283
Dodge: Dodged            |    79 |   108 |   103 |   447 |   813 |    51 ||  1601

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Post Monday, 2nd January 2017, 21:02

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Was it the same set of stairs you used earlier to go to Shoals:2 or a different one?
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Post Monday, 2nd January 2017, 22:27

Re: Instant death on stairs -

I'm fairly sure you get the first move the *first* time you go down any particular set of stairs.

If the stuff on the other side looks like it can kill you, go back up and set an exclusion on the staircase with control-E so you don't accidentally wander down.

Very, very occasionally a hydra and a black mamba will wander by a "safe" staircase and one shot your octopode, but that is one game in thousands.

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Post Monday, 2nd January 2017, 22:59

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Is the free move the first time you go down a given set of stairs, or the first time you take any stairs to a given level?
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Post Monday, 2nd January 2017, 23:04

Re: Instant death on stairs -

First time you arrive on the level.

That looks like really awful luck. The closest thing to a "lesson" I can pull from it is to avoid Nikola like the plague if you don't have rElec:

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 31740 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Nikola
 31900 | Shoals:2 | Killed from afar by Nikola


Could've dipped into the other Lair branch between these events. High rolls of Nikola's Chain Lighting can do a theoretical 264 AC-bypassing damage, and he can blink so maintaining distance is not always possible.
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Post Monday, 2nd January 2017, 23:11

Re: Instant death on stairs -

mattlistener wrote:Is the free move the first time you go down a given set of stairs, or the first time you take any stairs to a given level?


I believe it's any unexplored stairs - So if you find a stair going up you don't get a free move coming down the corresponding downstairs, even though it will be your first time going down.

(But I could be wrong. The fun thing about Dungeon Crawl is that nobody knows all the rules.)

But, yeah, you did get screwed there. Sorry!

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Post Tuesday, 3rd January 2017, 00:44

Re: Instant death on stairs -

Reptisaurus wrote:
mattlistener wrote:Is the free move the first time you go down a given set of stairs, or the first time you take any stairs to a given level?


I believe it's any unexplored stairs - So if you find a stair going up you don't get a free move coming down the corresponding downstairs, even though it will be your first time going down.

(But I could be wrong. The fun thing about Dungeon Crawl is that nobody knows all the rules.)

But, yeah, you did get screwed there. Sorry!


You get the first move the first time you arrive on a floor, and it is not guaranteed any time thereafter (I think you generally don't get the first move after that because going down stairs takes time, but against monsters who move slowly you might still get to go ahead of them).

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Post Tuesday, 3rd January 2017, 00:48

Re: Instant death on stairs -

When down stairs, fought a little, saw Nikola, went up, went down different stairs and got blasted.

Just almost happened again. Went down to D6 and ran face first into a seven headed Hydra. Only think that saved my was scroll of fear.

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Post Tuesday, 3rd January 2017, 01:19

Re: Instant death on stairs -

DeepDeath wrote:When down stairs, fought a little, saw Nikola, went up, went down different stairs and got blasted.

Just almost happened again. Went down to D6 and ran face first into a seven headed Hydra. Only think that saved my was scroll of fear.

So yes, it is *the first time you arrive on a level* that you get the first move, not any subsequent entry on the same or any other staircase.

If you see the other end of a staircase, it will be " explored" so if you go down, and there is another staircase in los, when you go back up, obviously don't take stairs that are going back into the same area you had to flee from before (i don't know if that is what happened to you, but it reduces your chances of being killed to know this if you didn't)

Nikola is nasty, if you see him, the proper response is to not ever go to that same level without relec, unless you literally have no other choice, if you have no other choice, then don't stick around, high tail it off the level asap, killing him without relec is almost never worth it.
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Post Tuesday, 3rd January 2017, 07:05

Re: Instant death on stairs -

Extremely bad luck there, but to some extent you make your own luck...

wearing the wrong ring
H - a +4 ring of protection
M - a +3 ring of evasion (left hand)

visiting shoals before snake or d14-15. There is literally nothing of value in shoals. I do elf and v:1-4 before shoals too.

going back to a level with nikola before you are extremely beefy

not training fighting enough. Ogres have a crazy fighting apt, so you should hit that harder than their shitty dodging apt. (also its a better skill even if the apts were the same)
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Post Tuesday, 10th January 2017, 19:58

Re: Instant death on stairs -

+3 Ring of evasion was probably better, but I'd have to run the Fsims to be sure
I'm with tasonir on this one.

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Post Wednesday, 11th January 2017, 07:43

Re: Instant death on stairs -

I think the real question to ask here is "why is there a midgame crawl monster that can do 264 AC-bypassing damage per turn from anywhere on the screen"?

I mean, just give chain lightning to Lom Lobon or something instead of invoking the optimal play meme whenever someone dies against Nikola with no real defense options.

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Post Wednesday, 11th January 2017, 10:37

Re: Instant death on stairs -

Croases wrote:264 AC-bypassing damage per turn from anywhere on the screen

This is wrong. 264 is a top value (not sure if it's accurate though) when he is next to you, and any other monsters decrease this value further (not to mention it's super unlikely to roll that high, much less than 1/264).
Croases wrote:no real defense options

Silence shuts him for good. Resistance, Antimagic, summoning, blinking, teleport and just walking away are viable defense options.

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