Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.


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Post Thursday, 6th October 2016, 20:48

Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.

Seriously. Why is this a thing?

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Post Thursday, 6th October 2016, 21:45

Re: Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.

I presume it's a legacy from before "fainting" status existed, when there was a chance that a multi-turn action at "starving" would kill you...?
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Post Sunday, 16th October 2016, 23:59

Re: Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.

I also don't quite understand the design choice behind this since auto eating chunks would fulfill the condition needed to not be starving anymore.

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Post Tuesday, 18th October 2016, 15:47

Re: Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.

Well, theoretically you could have a royal jelly or a choko in your inventory, as well as a chunk, and be one turn away from starving to death (before fainting status existed). If you automatically ate the chunk, you would die because you wouldn't finish in time. If you ate the choko or the jelly, you would survive.

This situation can't happen at starving anymore, although I guess it could still happen at fainting.

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Post Tuesday, 18th October 2016, 15:52

Re: Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.

Recent versions removed stat death, drowning. What about starvation? Can we make "starved" character slow (even Formicid), pass turns randomly, lose 50% AC/EV/max HP/weapon damage etc. instead of death?
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Post Tuesday, 18th October 2016, 17:21

Re: Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.

Not a bad idea, perhaps, but think about what sorts of characters end up starving. They are the weak characters who can't keep up with killing enemies fast enough to keep themselves fed. If they are having that much trouble without any penalties, how can they ever hope to get back on track if they are made even worse? Also, in this model, would they be unable to cast spells?

I suppose it could make an interesting choice sometimes. specifically under gozag, where you choose to fight with a handicap to avoid buying a food shop... but that's a pretty wild corner case.

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Post Tuesday, 18th October 2016, 17:24

Re: Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.

dowan wrote:Not a bad idea, perhaps, but think about what sorts of characters end up starving. They are the weak characters who can't keep up with killing enemies fast enough to keep themselves fed.


I don't remember starved characters but I remember characters who had the most problems with food:
Troll of Gozag, Spriggan Berserker and several characters who were lucky to find 5+ rods. None of them was weak, quite the opposite. Probably it could be fun to play them at permanent "starved" status as challenge.
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Post Tuesday, 18th October 2016, 21:20

Re: Don't disable auto-eating chunks when starving.

xbon wrote:I also don't quite understand the design choice behind this since auto eating chunks would fulfill the condition needed to not be starving anymore.


There used to be a bug where "you are now hungry" would interrupt the auto-chunk-eating that happened right as you became hungry. So the game would say "Player's hungry? better eat a chunk. Oh wait, player's hungry! Interrupt what they're doing to warn them of this!"

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