What do you want removed from crawl


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What do you want removed from crawl

Food
40
14%
Curses
29
10%
ID Game
26
9%
Inventory Limit
23
8%
Poison Magic
21
7%
Floors (make branches shorter)
25
9%
Haste
23
8%
Blinking monsters
16
6%
Duplicating wands (stack charges instead)
55
19%
Blowguns (darts->thrown weapons)
29
10%
 
Total votes : 287

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 05:54

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 06:12

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

i selected everything, but where is the remove deep dwarf option
Remove spell hunger.

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 06:13

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

it got blocked by their damage shaving

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 06:45

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Voted for food, curses, ID game, poison magic, floors, haste(assuming this means removal of haste options like spell/wand, not total removal-potion is fine), duplicate wands

I honestly just don't care about blowguns ever since they became not-OP

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 07:04

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

What if i don't want no removal of none on the list?

On the other hand, i'm already several versions behind by choice.

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 07:21

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Not even crawl development related, I love the game, even the parts I hate. I would like to be able to play multiple online games of the same version. Have a few drinks let's play a MiBe, playing serious maybe play your FeBE.

OK, one thing: if health = 100% and player can't perform any action without dying, xom rescues you and resets hp to 1. I have died like 5 times from 100% to 0% in one turn and every time it sucks.
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 07:45

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Beogh and Fedhas, Fe and Og.
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 07:49

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Wow, someone got the botnet going on this one.
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 08:23

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Its only ~12 people that voted so far, looks like. You can vote for multiple options btw, not sure if you realized.
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 08:24

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

goodcoolguy wrote:Wow, someone got the botnet going on this one.


What does this mean?
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 11:16

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

lethediver wrote:Its only ~12 people that voted so far, looks like. You can vote for multiple options btw, not sure if you realized.


Oh, so it's like impossible to interpret the results?
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 11:25

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

why would you ever want to "interpret" the results of a CYC poll

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 11:27

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Im flattered you even think i was aiming for interpretability.

Its like i flung poop at the wall and you said "eh its an alright painting, its no mona lisa tho"

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 13:01

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Poison magic, trog and dpeg

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 13:16

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

CypherZel wrote:Poison magic, trog and dpeg
For this, you will burn longer than Annihilations.

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Re: What do you want removed from crawl

dpeg wrote:
CypherZel wrote:Poison magic, trog and dpeg
For this, you will burn longer than Annihilations.


You are the head of a non-profit Dev team that has institutionalised speciesm. Even if you aren't actively putting us down you are part of the problem. DLM will continue to riot in CYC until we get our reparations

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 13:39

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lethediver wrote:Trollish meta responses go here

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Thanks, I have one ;)
People who voted for removing blinking monsters should get good.
Blinking monsters are among the best designed monsters because they make player stop mindless tabbing and luring to corridors. We need to have more monsters like this: Orb of Fire, Ancient Lich, Centaur Warrior etc.
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lethediver wrote:Trollish meta responses go here

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Thanks, I have one ;)
People who voted for removing blinking monsters should get good.
Blinking monsters are among the best designed monsters because they make player stop mindless tabbing and luring to corridors. We need to have more monsters like this: Orb of Fire, Ancient Lich, Centaur Warrior etc.


Maybe blinking monsters should git gud. Right now they are more of an interface hassle than anything else. The only dangerous ones are blink frogs since they both blink, and are fast enough to still catch up to you after they stupidly blink away from you. But even then, their blinking lets you stairdance them with laughable ease.

If there was a blinking monster that had...like... Fulminant prism, and was actually dangerous, i might be in favor of them.

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 14:01

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Blinking monsters actually make the game easier, unless you were trolling. I would love it if the monsters you just mentioned blink because I can run away

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 14:12

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

lethediver wrote:Maybe blinking monsters should git gud. Right now they are more of an interface hassle than anything else. The only dangerous ones are blink frogs since they both blink, and are fast enough to still catch up to you after they stupidly blink away from you. But even then, their blinking lets you stairdance them with laughable ease.

If there was a blinking monster that had...like... Fulminant prism, and was actually dangerous, i might be in favor of them.


I don't know, maybe you are playing OP combos or something.
I am really scared of Lom Lobon, Vashnia, Mara. Some other things are just scary and can kill easily with some bad luck: boggart packs, rakshasa + something even more dangerous, even deep elf archers can bring troubles.
Guardian serpents/Draconian Shifter with their Blink Allies Enclosing, phantasmal warriors blocking retreat from cursed skull etc.
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 14:13

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CypherZel wrote:Blinking monsters actually make the game easier, unless you were trolling. I would love it if the monsters you just mentioned blink because I can run away


Blinking monsters which are melee only are bad indeed, blinking monsters with powerful ranged attack are great.
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 15:26

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CypherZel wrote:
dpeg wrote:
CypherZel wrote:Poison magic, trog and dpeg
For this, you will burn longer than Annihilations.


You are the head of a non-profit Dev team that has institutionalised speciesm. Even if you aren't actively putting us down you are part of the problem. DLM will continue to riot in CYC until we get our reparations
Crawl development is headless.

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 15:31

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dpeg wrote:
CypherZel wrote:
dpeg wrote:[quote="CypherZel"]Poison magic, trog and dpeg
For this, you will burn longer than Annihilations.


You are the head of a non-profit Dev team that has institutionalised speciesm. Even if you aren't actively putting us down you are part of the problem. DLM will continue to riot in CYC until we get our reparations
Crawl development is headless.[/quote]

Nice try but your hexes won't work on us.

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dpeg wrote:Crawl development is headless.


I hope you mean second meaning from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/headless, not the third one ;)
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 17:09

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Amulet of harm should be removed.
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/playe ... speon.html. I started playing in 0.16.1
I achieved greatplayer in less than a year.
Remove food

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WingedEspeon wrote:Amulet of harm should be removed.


As well as faith, I actually use ID scrolls for all amulets until I found both of them and it's a huge waste
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 17:39

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dpeg wrote:Crawl development is headless.

It also haunts Sleepy Hollow.
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VeryAngryFelid wrote:
dpeg wrote:Crawl development is headless.


I hope you mean second meaning from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/headless, not the third one ;)
it's like how a chicken will still run around after you cut its head off
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 18:23

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duvessa wrote:
VeryAngryFelid wrote:
dpeg wrote:Crawl development is headless.


I hope you mean second meaning from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/headless, not the third one ;)
it's like how a chicken will still run around after you cut its head off

I read children instead of chicken and I was like, "uh, I didn't know they do that."
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 18:36

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CypherZel wrote:
WingedEspeon wrote:Amulet of harm should be removed.


As well as faith, I actually use ID scrolls for all amulets until I found both of them and it's a huge waste
But Faith, unlike Harm, is really good. And worst case scenario you can just wear it for a bit and then take it off and the piety gain+loss will basically be a wash... or you're late enough on that it doesn't matter.
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Shard1697 wrote:
CypherZel wrote:
WingedEspeon wrote:Amulet of harm should be removed.


As well as faith, I actually use ID scrolls for all amulets until I found both of them and it's a huge waste
But Faith, unlike Harm, is really good. And worst case scenario you can just wear it for a bit and then take it off and the piety gain+loss will basically be a wash.


Faith is like sex and consent, it's only good if you want it

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 19:33

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main.cc that file is nothing but trouble.

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 20:01

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Summons that hide the fact they are summoned. Rakshasa mostly. It's terrible.

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 20:17

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stickyfingers wrote:Summons that hide the fact they are summoned. Rakshasa mostly. It's terrible.


Mara is in the same category. This is interesting IMHO, you can try killing one of them (unless you have cleaving) or flee to reset the fight. They have ranged attack so resetting the fight is not exactly easy and it is good IMHO.
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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 21:01

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Resetting the fight is usually easy IMO. Doesn't help that if you take stairs, fake maras and your clone cannot follow you(and then poof), so you can just keep going up and down stairs to make Mara's gimmick totally meaningless. Then all you need is rF.

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Post Wednesday, 28th September 2016, 21:33

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I'm not saying it's hard, it just annoying. Some time ago you'd just go upstairs whenever a summoner summoned some monsters. Then expiry on summoner's death was added. Rakshasa clones function like the old summoners, which I don't like.

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Mara is in the same category. This is interesting IMHO, you can try killing one of them (unless you have cleaving) or flee to reset the fight. They have ranged attack so resetting the fight is not exactly easy and it is good IMHO.

Well, Mara is a type of rakshasa, an unique one. There's just one of it per game, though, and sometimes worth fighting due to demon weaponry.

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Post Thursday, 29th September 2016, 03:06

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Shtopit wrote:
duvessa wrote:it's like how a chicken will still run around after you cut its head off

I read children instead of chicken and I was like, "uh, I didn't know they do that."
that's true as well

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Shard1697 wrote:Resetting the fight is usually easy IMO. Doesn't help that if you take stairs, fake maras and your clone cannot follow you(and then poof), so you can just keep going up and down stairs to make Mara's gimmick totally meaningless. Then all you need is rF.


I guess you have never died as Fo to Mara in Vaults. With rF+, yes ;)
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VeryAngryFelid wrote:I guess you have never died as Fo to Mara in Vaults.
Very few people have done that.
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Post Thursday, 29th September 2016, 07:21

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CypherZel wrote:Remove remove

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Post Thursday, 29th September 2016, 14:23

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duvessa wrote:Very few people have done that.


Thank you, now I am proud of myself ;)
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Post Thursday, 29th September 2016, 14:57

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

remove Abyss
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Post Thursday, 29th September 2016, 15:25

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

OP forgot Malmutate+cMut.

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Post Thursday, 29th September 2016, 16:07

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I didn't forget. Sadly you can only make a poll with 10 options max. Yet more oppression on the part of the mods ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post Thursday, 29th September 2016, 17:12

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

I voted for food, floors, and wand duplication. There are other things I wish were removed that aren't on the list though.
remove food

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Post Thursday, 29th September 2016, 18:54

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Well? Dont just leave me in suspense bro -- tell me what they are.
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Post Friday, 30th September 2016, 00:44

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Floor traps
Tomb
Amulet of Harm
player ghosts so I don't feel incentivized to play on CJR all the time
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Post Friday, 30th September 2016, 01:35

Re: What do you want removed from crawl

Why do you dislike player ghosts?

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Post Friday, 30th September 2016, 01:42

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they are free xp at best and griefing at worst

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Post Friday, 30th September 2016, 04:32

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draconian ghosts still have drain breath which is basically just completely inexplicable to me, tbh

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