Why can't I be unlucky ?


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Post Saturday, 27th August 2016, 20:28

Why can't I be unlucky ?

You'll find here and here the 2 morgues of the only Unlucky titles winners (Nemelex penance).

On the footv of the first one, you'll see that he made Nemelex angry by throwing a deck in lava... Very bad :twisted:

I guess the other one does the same, I was too lazy to find the exact moment in his Abyss trip...

You'll notice they played 0.13 and 0.12 games... So I built a 0.13 GrFi of Oka (for Invoc), abandoned him, sacced a bunch of items, throw a deck in deep water... No effect :( looked for some lava, throw another deck, Nemelex is still happy...

Anyway, instead of making another 0.12 char, I tried a 0.12 sprint and did the same, Nemelex approves me destroying decks...

Is this title gone forever ?
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Post Saturday, 27th August 2016, 21:45

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Just abandoning isn't enough?

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Post Saturday, 27th August 2016, 22:40

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Not having a religion gives you one of Unbeliever, Agnostic, Dissident, Heretic, or Apostate depending on how high your Invocations skill is. Abandoning Nemelex and rejoining removes wrath, so no, it does not look like the title is available anymore.
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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 05:37

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Did every god have a penance title? I've never seen them in any title list before, even the old ones with all the jokey titles linley made
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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 05:56

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Every god still has one, including ones that you've never been able to get penance under; you can see them with all the other god titles if you scroll down here: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/mas ... ibe-god.cc

In case the list gets moved:
Zin - Blasphemer
TSO - Honourless
Kiku - Tormented
Yred - Traitor
Xom - Toy (his moods are handled elsewhere; all of his titles are Toy)
Vehumet - Meek
Okawaru - Coward
Makhleb - Orderly
Sif Muna - Ignorant
Trog - Puny
Nemelex - Unlucky Foo
Elyvilon - Sinner
Lugonu - Pure
Beogh - Apostate
Jiyva - Scum
Fedhas - (correct form of Walking) Fertilizer
Cheibriados - Hasty
Ashenzari - Star-crossed
Dithmenos - Ember
Gozag - Profligate (not normally visible; having 0 gold makes you a Pauper and he forgives deserters immediately on rejoining)
Qazlal - Unspoiled
Ru - Sleeper
Pakellas - Reactionary
Uskayaw - Prude
Hepllettersalad - Damnatio Memoriae

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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 06:33

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Awesome! I want all of those titles on my win list except the weird pakellas one.
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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 09:36

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

scorpionwarrior wrote:Awesome! I want all of those titles on my win list except the weird pakellas one.

This one ?

I'm having a hard time collecting all of them...

So it's probably impossible now to be Unlucky :( But I don't get what was changed in old versions ?? The 2 example I quoted show it used to be possible...
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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 09:58

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That Qazlal's apostate title is "Unspoiled" speaks volumes about how you have to play that god.

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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 11:09

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

There must be some change were gods stopped caring about item destruction. I don't see why that would affect old versions though.
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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 12:42

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Playing some oldies, I noticed some "recent" changes that seemed to affect old versions. I'll make a thread about it, but I'm pretty sure that 0.12 had 8 vaults level (now 5) and only one Abyss floor (now 5)...
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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 15:00

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

mopl wrote:So it's probably impossible now to be Unlucky

that's so meta

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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 18:14

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mopl wrote:Playing some oldies, I noticed some "recent" changes that seemed to affect old versions. I'll make a thread about it, but I'm pretty sure that 0.12 had 8 vaults level (now 5) and only one Abyss floor (now 5)...

Were you playing online or downloading the old versions? It might just be the webtiles server messing things up.

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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 20:07

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Plutocrat will make you want to stop playing crawl.

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/combo ... 004252.txt
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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 20:44

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genericpseudonym wrote:
mopl wrote:Playing some oldies, I noticed some "recent" changes that seemed to affect old versions. I'll make a thread about it, but I'm pretty sure that 0.12 had 8 vaults level (now 5) and only one Abyss floor (now 5)...

Were you playing online or downloading the old versions? It might just be the webtiles server messing things up.
Online, of course... I should probably try a console game...
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Post Sunday, 28th August 2016, 23:17

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

i don't know why you're all acting like this is a glitch, kilobyte removed it a long time ago
take it easy

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Post Monday, 29th August 2016, 05:48

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Arrhythmia wrote:i don't know why you're all acting like this is a glitch, kilobyte removed it a long time ago

That answers some of my questions ;)

Are 0.11 or 0.10 affected ? I'm ready to play with weight management, item destruction, poor UI :p
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Post Monday, 29th August 2016, 17:16

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

mopl wrote:
Arrhythmia wrote:i don't know why you're all acting like this is a glitch, kilobyte removed it a long time ago

That answers some of my questions ;)

Are 0.11 or 0.10 affected ? I'm ready to play with weight management, item destruction, poor UI :p


No; deck destruction giving penance was in the game for just about one month, and never landed in a stable version.
take it easy
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Post Monday, 29th August 2016, 17:25

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Plutocrat? That's something Mussolini would say XD

Anyway, is there a title of Titleplayer?
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Post Monday, 29th August 2016, 18:47

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Shtopit wrote:Anyway, is there a title of Titleplayer?


We need this!

comborobin won with all the top tier titles that were available at the time (skill 27, god titles, plus the few corner cases Iike Ogre Mage, but not all the possible @Foo@ values). I think someone got the top Pak title later, but I'm not sure about Hep and Usk.

Winning with the bottom tier skill titles seems nuts: you'd need all skills less than 8!
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Post Monday, 29th August 2016, 19:03

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Lore master 4
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Post Monday, 29th August 2016, 21:04

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

You know what to do mopl!

Submit a patch that re-introduces deck-destruction-penance.
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Post Monday, 29th August 2016, 21:37

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

How is it possible to get Ru wrath? like seriously...dude doesn't give a fuck about shit.
I'm beginning to feel like a Cat God! Felid streaks: {FeVM^Sif Muna, FeWn^Dithmenos, FeAr^Pakellas}, {FeEE^Ashenzari, FeEn^Gozag, FeNe^Sif Muna, FeAE^Vehumet...(ongoing)}
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Post Tuesday, 30th August 2016, 13:44

Re: Why can't I be unlucky ?

Arrhythmia wrote:
mopl wrote:
Arrhythmia wrote:i don't know why you're all acting like this is a glitch, kilobyte removed it a long time ago

That answers some of my questions ;)

Are 0.11 or 0.10 affected ? I'm ready to play with weight management, item destruction, poor UI :p


No; deck destruction giving penance was in the game for just about one month, and never landed in a stable version.
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4Hooves2Appendages wrote:You know what to do mopl!

Submit a patch that re-introduces deck-destruction-penance.
There goes a good idea :D
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