Okawaru gifts


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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 14:53

Okawaru gifts

I use Okawaru quite a bit for melee characters, I always seem to get needles as gifts when I do not even have a blowgun in my inventory. Can this be changed so that if i don't carry a blowgun I don't get needles all the time?

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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 21:32

Re: Okawaru gifts

You should probably always carry a blowgun with you
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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 22:44

Re: Okawaru gifts

Good advice or not, getting needles from Oka without a blowgun is unintuitive given most everything else is only gifted with training.

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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 22:46

Re: Okawaru gifts

That isn't true, it is more likely that you will get gifts for things you have trained but it is by no means guaranteed.
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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 22:53

Re: Okawaru gifts

Acquirement in general has been deliberately changed not to depend on what specific items are in the player's inventory, re-implementing that (this specific case was removed in fact) is probably pretty unlikely.

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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 23:08

Re: Okawaru gifts

You never get non-throwing ammo gifts without the relevant skills, though. Not sure why throwing is the exception here. Maybe a relic of the time when 0 skill throwing was decent?

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Tartarus Sorceror

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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 23:14

Re: Okawaru gifts

0 skill throwing is still decent for a chunk of the game with needles and nets.

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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 23:16

Re: Okawaru gifts

The needles that Oka gives seem to be the ones that suck with 0 skill.

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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 23:19

Re: Okawaru gifts

It is even ok with javelins and tomahawks, and for a little while with stones. I do agree though that it would be more consistent if you got completely random missiles with 0 skill in all ranged skills. I am not sure it would be more fun though.
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Post Friday, 27th November 2015, 23:26

Re: Okawaru gifts

Shard1697 wrote:0 skill throwing is still decent for a chunk of the game with needles and nets.


Oka doesn't gift nets, nor the needles that are good with 0 skill (actually I'm not sure whether he gifts curare, but even if he does those are going to be vastly outnumbered by useless needles of sleep/frenzy/paralysis).
Almost as perplexingly, he doesn't gift blowguns, which are probably a lot more useful to your average 0 throwing Oka worhispper than a stack of 4 tomahawks of returning.

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Post Sunday, 29th November 2015, 23:15

Re: Okawaru gifts

Oka gifts are usually extremely lame. I once recieved a regular +0 hat.
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Post Monday, 30th November 2015, 00:23

Re: Okawaru gifts

As with all gifts and acquirements, most of Oka's gifts are useless. But usually Oka gifts one or two pieces of armour that I actually end up using all the way. Also typically at least one weapon gift is good. And of course ammo gifts are good when you're using ranged.

Some good Oka gifts of mine from the past:
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the +12 giant spiked club "Kihitad" (weapon) {speed, rPois}
a +2 cloak of invisibility (worn)
a +2 hat of intelligence (worn)
the +3 helmet of Strou (worn) {MR+}
a +9 triple crossbow of flaming (weapon)
the +8 claymore "Betiongy" {flame, Stlth--}
a +4 great sword of holy wrath
the +2 great sword "Shepsup" {slice, rF+ rN+ Str+3}
the +9 ring mail "Ujeamp" (worn) {Slay+5}
the +7 great mace "Schif" {drain, SInv}
the +4 great mace of Ragnarok {holy, rF+ rN+}
a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
DCSS: 97:...MfCj}SpNeBaEEGrFE{HaAKTrCK}DsFESpHu{FoArNaBe}
FeEE{HOIEMiAE}GrGlHuWrGnWrNaAKBaFi{MiDeMfDe}{DrAKTrAMGhEnGnWz}
{PaBeDjFi}OgAKPaCAGnCjOgCKMfAEAtCKSpCjDEEE{HOSu
Bloat: 17: RaRoPrPh{GuStGnCa}{ArEtZoNb}KiPaAnDrBXDBQOApDaMeAGBiOCNKAsFnFlUs{RoBoNeWi

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Post Monday, 30th November 2015, 00:56

Re: Okawaru gifts

swoonis wrote:Oka gifts are usually extremely lame. I once recieved a regular +0 hat.
Actually happened to me:
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You finish putting on the -5 robe of Misfortune {god gift, -Cast Contam+ *Tele EV-4 Str-2 Dex-2 Int-2 Stlth-- Curse}

Lair Larrikin

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Post Monday, 30th November 2015, 16:31

Re: Okawaru gifts

duvessa wrote:
swoonis wrote:Oka gifts are usually extremely lame. I once recieved a regular +0 hat.
Actually happened to me:
  Code:
You finish putting on the -5 robe of Misfortune {god gift, -Cast Contam+ *Tele EV-4 Str-2 Dex-2 Int-2 Stlth-- Curse}

Oh man, and I thought I had it bad. Okawaru has a sick sense of humor.

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