CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been (dead in an Ice Cave)


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Post Tuesday, 19th July 2011, 02:30

CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been (dead in an Ice Cave)

So this started off pretty slowly and I still think I have junk for a weapon with a +4 flail of protection all the way down at D17. The +1 +3 ring of slaying does help though, and I have a +3 +2 ring of slaying stashed too but figured that rPois was more important.
I've cleared Orc:4 and got junk for shops (2 scrolls, a wand, and a potion) and found the entry to Elf. I found no other one handed mace types with a brand of any kind.
I've cleared Snake:4 and peeked into Snake:5 and got scared away by the 12 or so assorted enemies that I could see from the stairs, I'm lucky they weren't on top of them to swarm me.
I have a ring of levitation for doing Shoals, but I havent gone deeper than the Shoals:2.
Found Vaults, but I've never been in before, I don't know what to expect.
Found a treasure trove with an entry fee of 5 scrolls of blink, I only have 3 and they are part of my get out of trouble quick pack. How important is it to get into a treasure trove?
What should my next goals be and do I have what I need to accomplish them?

oblig dump
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.1 character file.

x438 the Basher (Mountain Dwarf Death Knight)                                          Turns: 36909, Time: 03:52:02

HP 135/135       AC 36     Str 27      Exp: 15/104499 (4), need: 32650
MP  27/27        EV  6     Int  9      God: Yredelemnul [*****.]
Gold 2574        SH 23     Dex 11      Spells:  0 memorised, 16 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +    a - +4 flail (protect)
Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : . .  S - +3 plate mail {rC+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    u - +4 buckler of Boiling Hail {rC+}
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    d - +2 dwarf spiked helmet {SInv}
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : .    J - +2 cloak
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    F - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    (no boots)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .    (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    z - ring of poison resistance
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .    r - +1,+3 ring of slaying

@: quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: AC +1
a: Animate Dead, Recall Undead Slaves, Injury Mirror, Drain Life, Enslave Soul, Renounce Religion


You are on level 17 of the Dungeon.
You worship Yredelemnul.
Yredelemnul is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 39 of its levels.

You have collected 2599 gold pieces.
You have spent 45 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +4,+4 flail of protection (weapon)
 b - an uncursed sling
 e - an uncursed knife
 P - an uncursed glowing orcish spiked flail
Missiles
 h - 4 exploding darts
 p - 18 runed sling bullets
 t - 41 runed sling bullets
 y - 14 darts of frost
 U - 23 runed darts (quivered)
 Y - 2 sling bullets of frost
Armour
 d - a +2 dwarven spiked helmet of see invisible (worn)
 u - the +4 buckler of Boiling Hail (worn) {rC+}
   (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)   
   
   
   It protects you from cold.
 F - a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 J - a +2 cloak (worn)
 S - a +3 plate mail of cold resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 s - a wand of fireball {zapped: 4}
 w - a wand of lightning {zapped: 5}
 C - a wand of fire (3)
 H - a wand of fireball
 I - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 4}
 O - a glowing lead wand
 X - a wand of draining (9)
Comestibles
 n - 16 bread rations
Scrolls
 c - a scroll of detect curse
 i - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 l - a scroll of holy word
 m - 3 scrolls of blinking
 o - 3 scrolls of fear
 q - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 B - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
 G - a scroll of vulnerability
 L - a scroll of enchant weapon I
 M - a scroll of enchant weapon II
 N - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
 W - 3 scrolls of identify
Jewellery
 r - a +1,+3 ring of slaying (left hand)
 v - an uncursed ring of levitation
 x - a +4 ring of dexterity
 z - a ring of poison resistance (right hand)
 E - a +5 ring of intelligence
 Q - a ring of wizardry
Potions
 f - 5 potions of healing
 g - 3 potions of agility
 k - 4 potions of heal wounds
 A - 5 potions of might
 D - 2 potions of levitation
 K - 6 potions of speed
Books
 R - a metal-bound book {highlevel}   
   This book is beyond your current level of understanding.


 You have 4 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 14 Fighting
 - Level 14 Maces & Flails
 + Level 1 Slings
 - Level 1 Throwing
 + Level 14 Armour
 - Level 3 Dodging
 - Level 1 Stealth
 - Level 1 Stabbing
 + Level 14 Shields
 + Level 10 Traps & Doors
 - Level 3 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 1 Spellcasting
 + Level 11 Invocations
 + Level 2 Evocations


You have 16 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (18/27)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:8
    Elf (0/5) Orc:4          Lair (7/8) D:11         Shoals (2/5) Lair:4
  Snake (5/5) Lair:4         Hive (2/2) D:11          Vault (0/8) D:17
 Slime: Lair:6-8   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:9: /  D:12: =  Orc:3: (  Orc:4: /?!?  Snake:1: +

Portals:
Trove: D:17 (give 5 scrolls of blinking)
Ziggurat: D:16 (6990 gp)

Annotations
D:17 trove requires 5 scrolls of blinking
Lair:7 exclusion: 3 oklob plants
Snake:3 1 exclusion


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are partially covered in colourless scales (AC +1).


Message History

Done searching.
You swap places.
There is a portal to a secret trove of treasure here.
You swap places.
There is a large open door here.
You swap places.
You swap places.

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You can see a friendly bone dragon, friendly 2 skeletal warriors, a friendly freezing wraith, a friendly centaur zombie and friendly 3 flying skulls.

Vanquished Creatures
  Gastronok (D:12)
  Jozef (D:13)
  Snorg (Snake:1)
  The ghost of x435 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:10)
  A hydra (Lair:6)
  2 anacondas
  An ogre mage (D:13)
  3 death yaks (Lair:7)
  2 centaur warriors
  2 naga warriors
  3 unseen horrors
  Urug (Orc:2)
  2 hill giants
  5 black mambas
  A shop mimic (D:17)
  An elephant slug (Lair:6)
  3 trapdoor spider zombies
  4 spiny frogs
  2 black mamba zombies (Snake:4)
  An elephant (Lair:5)
  A slime creature (D:10)
  A mermaid (Shoals:1)
  A naga mage (Snake:2)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:7)
  7 ugly things
  A queen bee (Hive:2)
  2 trolls
  11 blink frogs
  7 two-headed ogres
  5 giant toads
  A redback zombie (D:17)
  2 viper zombies (Snake:4)
  Edmund (D:6)
  3 vipers
  3 vampires
  6 wraiths
  Eustachio (D:9)
  A wyvern (D:11)
  A steam dragon (D:13)
  22 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:8)
  3 merfolk
  2 hippogriffs
  2 war dogs (Lair:3)
  A fire drake (Lair:1)
  6 orc warriors
  An elf (shapeshifter) (D:17)
  9 necrophages
  2 soldier ants
  A yaktaur skeleton (D:16)
  A manticore (D:11)
  An orange crystal statue (D:13)
  2 sky beasts
  An ice beast (D:6)
  The ghost of x424 the Cudgeler, an average MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:4)
  14 ogres
  4 gila monsters
  3 phantoms
  4 crocodiles
  17 centaurs
  29 nagas
  3 big kobolds
  8 giant frogs
  2 electric eels (Hive:2)
  A small abomination (D:9)
  2 giant slugs
  A warg (Orc:3)
  4 agate snails
  3 water moccasin zombies (Snake:4)
  An eye of draining (D:10)
  11 water moccasins
  A boulder beetle (Lair:5)
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  2 killer bee zombies
  7 wights
  2 big kobold zombies
  101 killer bees
  2 big kobold skeletons
  A shadow (D:12)
  Crazy Yiuf (D:6)
  12 orc priests
  13 hounds
  An imp (D:5)
  2 spiders (D:13)
  5 iguanas
  4 scorpions
  2 worker ants
  A worker ant zombie (D:17)
  6 porcupines
  15 orc wizards
  9 sheep
  Ijyb (D:2)
  3 jellies
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:10)
  2 mummies
  A flying skull (Hive:2)
  5 gnolls
  27 green rats
  28 snakes
  3 giant centipedes
  A midge (D:9)
  A scorpion zombie (D:5)
  A giant centipede zombie (D:17)
  2 snake zombies (Snake:4)
  A white imp (D:9)
  9 worms
  2 grey rats
  2 giant eyeballs
  An ooze (D:6)
  72 orcs
  5 giant cockroaches
  26 goblins
  13 hobgoblins
  27 jackals
  30 kobolds
  9 quokkas
  A small snake (Snake:1)
  6 giant geckos
  5 giant newts
  24 killer bee larvae
  A kobold skeleton (D:5)
  28 megabats
  2 orc skeletons
  An orc zombie (D:17)
  A quokka zombie (D:8)
  22 rats
  2 small snake zombies (Snake:4)
  A ballistomycete (D:12)
  10 fungi
  19 plants
  7 toadstools
848 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  The ghost of x324 the Bludgeoner, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (Orc:4)
  The ghost of x361 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:12)
  The ghost of x362 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (Lair:2)
  2 ogre magi (Orc:4)
  4 hydras
  An anaconda (Snake:2)
  3 death yaks (Lair:7)
  A centaur warrior (D:13)
  A griffon (Lair:5)
  A naga warrior (Snake:2)
  3 hill giants
  2 cyclopes (D:15)
  Maurice (D:12)
  2 weapon mimics
  A stair mimic (D:17)
  A door mimic (D:15)
  A trapdoor spider (D:13)
  8 elephants
  A shop mimic (D:15)
  A rock troll (D:17)
  16 black mambas
  3 spiny frogs
  4 naga magi
  4 ugly things
  2 komodo dragons
  6 two-headed ogres (Orc:4)
  A troll (D:15)
  4 snapping turtles (Shoals:1)
  2 blink frogs (Lair:5)
  7 giant toads
  3 merfolk
  21 yaks
  4 hippogriffs
  2 viper zombies (Snake:4)
  4 vipers
  2 wyverns
  A war dog (Lair:3)
  2 vampire mosquitoes (D:16)
  2 wraiths
  4 manticores
  A soldier ant (D:15)
  A cyclops zombie (D:13)
  16 ogres (Orc:4)
  A black bear (Lair:3)
  6 orc warriors
  3 yellow wasps
  3 gila monsters
  32 nagas
  3 crocodiles
  7 giant goldfish (Hive:2)
  A troll skeleton (D:16)
  8 centaurs
  8 giant frogs
  2 giant slugs (Lair:6)
  13 water moccasins
  A brain worm (D:16)
  2 agate snails
  A water moccasin zombie (Snake:4)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:17)
  A jellyfish (Hive:2)
  42 killer bees
  2 wights
  6 spiders (D:13)
  4 imps
  2 goliath beetles
  2 hounds (Lair:1)
  6 orc priests
  A quasit (D:11)
  An iguana (Lair:5)
  5 orc wizards
  A porcupine (Lair:4)
  A worker ant (D:16)
  7 sheep
  A steam dragon zombie (D:12)
  16 snakes
  3 gnolls
  18 green rats
  A snake zombie (Snake:4)
  2 giant centipedes
  A worm (Lair:5)
  An ufetubus (D:9)
  2 grey rats (D:9)
  2 giant geckos
  2 oozes
  22 orcs
  A giant cockroach (D:4)
  4 goblins
  A hobgoblin (D:9)
  5 jackals
  7 kobolds
  4 quokkas
  A giant newt (D:9)
  3 killer bee larvae (Hive:2)
  8 megabats
  6 rats
  2 small snake zombies (Snake:4)
  A ballistomycete (D:12)
  A bush (Lair:6)
  A butterfly (Shoals:1)
  12 fungi
  25 plants
  A toadstool (Lair:3)
476 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 death cobs
  3 skeletal warriors
  A flaming corpse (Snake:4)
  A rotting hulk (D:14)
  A wraith (Hive:2)
  A fire drake zombie (Lair:1)
  A troll zombie (Snake:1)
  2 freezing wraiths
  A wyvern zombie (Lair:4)
  A yak zombie (D:11)
  A war dog zombie (Lair:4)
  3 naga zombies
  5 centaur zombies
  A fire crab simulacrum (D:17)
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:9)
  A two-headed ogre zombie (Orc:4)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:15)
  21 killer bee zombies (Hive:2)
  5 wights
  A human (D:8)
  A human zombie (D:12)
  A big kobold zombie (D:9)
  An ogre zombie (Orc:4)
  A hound zombie (D:4)
  A spider zombie (D:13)
  An orc wizard (D:9)
  14 flying skulls
  A giant centipede zombie (D:13)
  A snake (Lair:1)
  A sheep zombie (Lair:3)
  2 porcupine zombies
  5 snake zombies
  A gnoll zombie (D:9)
  A green rat zombie (Lair:7)
  3 orcs
  A jackal (D:9)
  A kobold (D:8)
  A giant newt (Lair:1)
  A giant spore (D:12)
  3 goblin zombies
  3 hobgoblin zombies
  9 jackal zombies
  A killer bee larva (Hive:2)
  9 killer bee larva zombies (Hive:2)
  7 kobold zombies
  22 orc zombies
  2 fungi
  3 plants (Hive:2)
  68 toadstools
220 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1544 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | x438, the Mountain Dwarf Death Knight, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 2/2
   167 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
   451 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/20 MP: 3/4
   997 | D:1      | Acquired Yredelemnul's second power
  1331 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
  1346 | D:2      | Defeated Ijyb
  1346 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/27 MP: 4/4
  1718 | D:2      | Noticed a jelly
  1749 | D:2      | Defeated a jelly
  1749 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/33 MP: 4/6
  2142 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  2479 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 36/41 MP: 7/8
  3528 | D:4      | Noticed x424's ghost (average MDDK)
  3539 | D:4      | Defeated x424's ghost
  3539 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/47 MP: 9/9
  3702 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3714 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3882 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  3882 | D:4      | Acquired Yredelemnul's third power
  3888 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  3893 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
  4218 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4224 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4773 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 27/55 MP: 11/11
  5070 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5188 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  6169 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  6183 | D:6      | Defeated Edmund
  6183 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/62 MP: 12/13
  6208 | D:6      | Acquired Yredelemnul's fourth power
  6269 | D:6      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  6287 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  6289 | D:6      | Defeated Crazy Yiuf
  6747 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  7491 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  7799 | D:7      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  8344 | D:8      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  8356 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 56/71 MP: 14/14
  8683 | D:8      | Got a faintly glowing glass ring
  8960 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  9218 | D:8      | Identified the ring of Elyvilon's Vengeance (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in colourless scales (AC +1).
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet.
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
  9471 | D:8      | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
  9776 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  9778 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 10209 | D:9      | Found Ruryq's Magical Wand Shop.
 10229 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
 10234 | D:9      | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 10291 | D:9      | Noticed Eustachio
 10301 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 10307 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 10316 | D:9      | Defeated Eustachio
 10316 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 72/72 MP: 17/18
 10320 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 10413 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10808 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 10872 | Orc:2    | Noticed Urug
 10901 | Orc:2    | Defeated Urug
 10906 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 10949 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
 11518 | D:10     | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 11590 | D:10     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 11719 | D:10     | You fall through a shaft!
 12200 | D:10     | Noticed x435's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 12521 | D:10     | Defeated x435's ghost
 13093 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 80/80 MP: 19/19
 13191 | D:10     | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 13463 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 13489 | D:11     | Got a shimmering buckler
 13505 | D:11     | Identified the +4 buckler of Boiling Hail (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 13556 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 13715 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 14281 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14827 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 15087 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 15468 | Hive:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
 15476 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 15489 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 15587 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 15730 | Hive:2   | Entered Level 2 of the Hive
 16208 | Hive:2   | Acquired Yredelemnul's fifth power
 16285 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 16620 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 16670 | Hive:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 32/90 MP: 21/21
 17404 | Hive:2   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 17640 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 18369 | Hive:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 18941 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 19001 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 19552 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 20088 | Lair:2   | Noticed x362's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 20101 | Lair:2   | Defeated x362's ghost
 20565 | D:12     | Found Qalavaam's Jewellery Emporium.
 20568 | D:12     | Noticed Gastronok
 20589 | D:12     | Defeated Gastronok
 20598 | D:12     | Noticed x361's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 20614 | D:12     | Defeated x361's ghost
 20760 | D:12     | Noticed Maurice
 20776 | D:12     | Defeated Maurice
 20794 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Traps & Doors
 21577 | Orc:3    | Found Enorruil's Weapon Shoppe.
 21591 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 21849 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 21849 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 21980 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 22015 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 22020 | Orc:4    | Noticed x324's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 22042 | Orc:4    | Defeated x324's ghost
 22157 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22158 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22159 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22160 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22160 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22161 | Orc:4    | Noticed an ogre mage
 22164 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22164 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 13. HP: 95/100 MP: 24/24
 22165 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22169 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22170 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22170 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22176 | Orc:4    | Noticed an ogre mage
 22178 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22179 | Orc:4    | Defeated an ogre mage
 22182 | Orc:4    | Defeated an ogre mage
 22183 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 22191 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 22191 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22192 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22193 | Orc:4    | Found Greareag's Magic Scroll Shop.
 22193 | Orc:4    | Found Plufu's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 22194 | Orc:4    | Found Bleorea's Magical Wand Emporium.
 22194 | Orc:4    | Found Cousmar's Distillery.
 22198 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22207 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22208 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22208 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22210 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22211 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22212 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22214 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22215 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22215 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22218 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22263 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of noise for 2 gold pieces
 22269 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of berserk rage for 42 gold pieces
 22269 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of strong poison for 1 gold piece
 23174 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 23225 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 23373 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 23790 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 23790 | Snake:1  | Found Saph's Book Shoppe.
 23790 | Snake:1  | Noticed Snorg
 23800 | Snake:1  | Defeated Snorg
 24765 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25055 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25128 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
 25546 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25717 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 26705 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
 26713 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 112/112 MP: 26/27
 26724 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27086 | Lair:6   | Got a black book
 27617 | D:13     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27617 | D:13     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27882 | D:13     | Noticed Jozef
 27899 | D:13     | Defeated Jozef
 28110 | D:13     | Identified Geihieh's Incunabulum of Glacial Protection (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 28320 | D:13     | Got a crude sabre
 28756 | D:14     | Identified the sabre "Truxyrer" {slice, *TELE rPois} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 29008 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
 29008 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You have large cloven feet.
 29447 | D:14     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 29686 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 30014 | D:15     | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 30310 | D:15     | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 31266 | D:16     | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 32184 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 32437 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 32969 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 33953 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 34141 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 34216 | Shoals:1 | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 34531 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 34898 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 135/135 MP: 27/27
 35271 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Traps & Doors
 35830 | D:17     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 35953 | D:17     | You fall through a shaft!
 36753 | D:17     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.

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Post Tuesday, 19th July 2011, 03:14

Re: CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been

In the Vaults, you can expect a good combination of ranged opponents (centaur/yaktaur packs) and melee (stone giants, hordes of ugly things), with shapeshifters and the occasional dragon thrown in. The Vaults layout isn't a maze of corridors like most Dungeon levels. Instead, every Vault level is a wide-open level dotted with buildings, so there's plenty of open space (dangerous if a yaktaur pack happens to be on the other side of it).

Meanwhile, treasure troves are a total crapshoot. You might find a room full of jewelry (half of it randart!), but then there's also the time one of my berserkers found a trove full of junk weapons when Trog had already been raining weapons on me the whole game before that. Most of the time, troves are somewhere between those two extremes. You'll probably get at least one or two genuinely useful items, maybe (but not necessarily) a lot more.

Where to go next? You're hurting for a great weapon right now, so I would be tempted to do that treasure trove, especially if you could find a wand of teleport or a blink randart or something else to make up for the loss of blink scrolls. Then again, the Vaults also contains the Hall of Blades, which is nothing but branded weapons, and contrary to the name, they sometimes include Mace/Flail types. If I were you, I'd probably proceed to the Vaults just as a test, and pull out if I had any trouble. If things go well, of course, you could try your luck at the Hall of Blades. If you're not up to the Vaults (it's too tough or you just don't want to risk it yet), you could go farther in the main Dungeon (always what I do if I'm not sure where to go next). I did notice you dipped a couple levels into the Shoals, but I wouldn't recommend going back until you had a few more levels under your belt.

I'd also start stashing your stuff somewhere (or going back to your stash if you already have one). There's no reason for you to be carrying around all those enchant scrolls or that much food, especially as you don't have conservation to protect them.

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Post Tuesday, 19th July 2011, 12:30

Re: CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been

So I was wondering around D:18 cause it wasn't acting overly difficult and then I stepped into a zot trap and found myself cast into the abyss. I've only been to the abyss once before and that was at a much lower level due to an unfortunate distortion unwield where the option was unwield or starve and I didn't last long at all.

To survive the abyss do I just wander aimlessly looking for a portal to get me out or does it help to wander in a single direction? Or am I too low leveled to worry about escape and I should just look for a nice corner to die in?

char dump from first post still applies.
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Post Tuesday, 19th July 2011, 19:30

Re: CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been

The exit gate for the Abyss is randomly generated. There are two basic strategies for finding it.

The first strategy is to keep moving, no matter what. Every turn you waste in the Abyss is another turn away from escaping. Fight only when it will save time. You don't have mutation resistance and you're not THAT tough, so stay out of sight of the nexoqecs (mutators), smoke demons (smiters), greater demons (nasty), and liches (also nasty), unless you can somehow kill THEM quickly, too. You have a lot of potions of speed right now (unless you used some of them since you did that dump), don't be afraid to use them to get out of a bad spot. Same with your teleport scrolls. Also, put on your ring of levitation - there's a lot of lava and deep water in some parts of the Abyss, and being able to float over it will make moving around (and not getting surrounded) much easier. Hopefully you'll last long enough to find the exit.

The other strategy depends on the fact that the longer you stay in the Abyss, the more likely the exit is to be generated. Find a nice corner to hide in - one blocked off from as many sides as possible, making it less likely for the monsters to spot you - and wait. Sooner or later, the Abyss will randomly teleport you, so you'll have to find another corner. Repeat this process until a couple thousand turns have passed (at least), or you lose patience and decide to go for the first strategy. Hopefully you still have plenty of food (or find it while you're looking for corners). And of course, watch out for those nasty monsters I mentioned earlier.

Either way, keep an eye out for the abyssal rune. It too is randomly generated and it typically doesn't appear until you've spent a long time in the Abyss, but it's not unknown for it to appear absurdly early, too. The record on this board is something like 34 turns after entering the Abyss! You might get lucky, too.

Good luck! (You'll need it.)

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Post Tuesday, 19th July 2011, 21:26

Re: CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been

Doh! Then I guess you should only do the second strategy if you're trying to get the rune.

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Post Wednesday, 20th July 2011, 13:50

Re: CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been

Indeed. To have the probability of an exit being generated go up as your elapsed time increases would imply that Crawl is taking pity on you, which we all know never happens.
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Post Thursday, 21st July 2011, 23:08

Re: CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been

I survived the abyss, picked up a few relatively minor mutations, no berzerk/teleport/shouter-itis.

Cleared down to D:23 and Vault:6 finding both Crypt and Hall of Blades in the process.

Found the entry fee to the trove, and I busted big on it, just spellbooks, manuals and scrolls, I havent ID'd the manuals yet, how important is that likely to be and can I read them with an empty XP pool to ID them without wasting XP?

Found a randart morningstar, +7, -2 {venom} so no improvement there from my flail.

I turned off Traps and Doors like minmay suggested, but I don't know why, is 10 good enough to find everything? is 10 too high for T&D?

I know my priority is still a better weapon and I'm thinking about hitting Hall of Blades and see if I can't do better than my flail.
Should my next depth goals be d:27 and then clear Snake:5 and make it to Shoals:5 to get runes? or when do I need to think about doing those? I know crypt is probably a bad choice since I'll get no piety assuming it's full of undead like the name implies. Ideally I'd 'luck' into a unique with a demon whip with a nice brand soon here and be set for weapon.

I have 5 enchant I, 4 enchant II and 7 enchant armor, how great of a weapon/armor do I wait for before I burn those?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.1 character file.

x438 the Warrior (Mountain Dwarf Death Knight)                                         Turns: 57151, Time: 06:52:31

HP 168/168       AC 36     Str 27 (29) Exp: 18/257461 (4), need: 49338
MP  31/31        EV  7     Int  8      God: Yredelemnul [*****.]
Gold 3765        SH 24     Dex 11      Spells:  0 memorised, 19 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +    a - +5,+4 flail (protect)
Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : . .  S - +3 plate mail {rC+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    u - +4 buckler of Boiling Hail {rC+}
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    d - +2 dwarf spiked helmet {SInv}
Res.Poison: .       Clarity    : .    J - +2 cloak
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    F - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    V - +2 pair of boots {run}
Res.Mut.  : +       Ctrl.Telep.: .    Y - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    M - +3,+2 ring of slaying
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .    r - +1,+3 ring of slaying

@: quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: blurry vision 1, deformed body 2, deterioration 1, slow metabolism 1, AC +1, Int -1
a: Animate Dead, Recall Undead Slaves, Injury Mirror, Drain Life, Enslave Soul, Renounce Religion


You are on level 2 of the Hive.
You worship Yredelemnul.
Yredelemnul is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 50 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have visited 1 Labyrinth.
You have visited 1 portal chamber: trove.

You have collected 3790 gold pieces.
You have spent 45 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +5,+4 flail of protection (weapon)
 e - an uncursed knife
Missiles
 h - 7 exploding darts
 y - 41 darts of frost (quivered)
 U - 22 runed darts
Armour
 d - a +2 dwarven spiked helmet of see invisible (worn)
 u - the +4 buckler of Boiling Hail (worn) {rC+}
   (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)   
   
   
   It protects you from cold.
 F - a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 J - a +2 cloak (worn)
 S - a +3 plate mail of cold resistance (worn)
 V - a +2 pair of boots of running (worn)
Magical devices
 l - a wand of teleportation
 w - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1}
 H - a wand of fireball {zapped: 3}
 I - a wand of disintegration {recharged}
 Q - a wand of hasting {zapped: 1}
 R - a wand of cold
 W - a wand of digging
 X - a wand of draining (9)
Comestibles
 n - 4 bread rations
Scrolls
 i - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 o - a scroll of identify
 B - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
Jewellery
 r - a +1,+3 ring of slaying (left hand)
 v - an uncursed ring of levitation
 x - an uncursed amulet of controlled flight
 z - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
 M - a +3,+2 ring of slaying (right hand)
 T - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 Y - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
Potions
 f - 3 potions of healing
 k - 3 potions of heal wounds
 m - a potion of resistance
 A - a potion of might
 D - 2 potions of levitation
 K - 3 potions of speed


 You have 4 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 17 Fighting
 - Level 15 Maces & Flails
 + Level 2 Slings
 - Level 2 Throwing
 + Level 16 Armour
 - Level 4 Dodging
 - Level 2 Stealth
 - Level 2 Stabbing
 + Level 15 Shields
 - Level 10 Traps & Doors
 - Level 3 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 1 Spellcasting
 + Level 14 Invocations
 + Level 3 Evocations


You have 19 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (23/27)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:8
    Elf (0/5) Orc:4          Lair (7/8) D:11         Shoals (2/5) Lair:4
  Snake (5/5) Lair:4         Hive (2/2) D:11          Vault (6/8) D:17
  Blade (0/1) Vault:6       Crypt (0/5) Vault:3     
 Slime: Lair:6-8   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:9: /  D:12: =  D:22: *  Orc:3: (  Orc:4: /?!?  Snake:1: +  Vault:1: ?  Vault:6: =

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23
Abyss: D:22
Ziggurat: D:16 (6990 gp)

Annotations
D:17 trove requires 5 scrolls of blinking
Lair:7 exclusion: 3 oklob plants
Snake:3 1 exclusion


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are partially covered in colourless scales (AC +1).
Your vision is a little blurry.
Armour fits poorly on your deformed body.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.
You are dopey (Int -1).
You have a slow metabolism.


Message History

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Welcome back, x438 the Mountain Dwarf Death Knight.
Yredelemnul says: Carry the black torch! Rouse the idle dead!
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You can see friendly 4 killer bee zombies.

Vanquished Creatures
  Boris (Vault:5)
  Gastronok (D:12)
  A stone giant (D:21)
  Jozef (D:13)
  Snorg (Snake:1)
  3 yaktaur captains
  A storm dragon zombie (Vault:5)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  The ghost of x435 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:10)
  3 hydras
  2 anacondas
  3 ogre magi
  3 death yaks (Lair:7)
  An orc high priest (Vault:4)
  A vapour (Vault:4)
  A very ugly thing (Vault:6)
  A frost giant skeleton (D:22)
  11 centaur warriors
  3 stone giant skeletons
  A griffon (Vault:3)
  An iron troll (D:23)
  A skeletal warrior (Vault:1)
  2 naga warriors
  A giant amoeba (Vault:3)
  A flayed ghost (Vault:4)
  2 orc sorcerers
  2 orc knights
  5 unseen horrors
  Urug (Orc:2)
  A harpy (Vault:5)
  5 hill giants
  A red wasp (D:20)
  2 spiny worms
  A sixfirhy (Vault:4)
  5 black mambas
  A cyclops (D:19)
  A red wasp zombie (D:23)
  A shop mimic (D:17)
  A wolf spider (D:18)
  An elephant slug (Lair:6)
  3 trapdoor spider zombies
  4 spiny frogs
  2 black mamba zombies (Snake:4)
  A griffon skeleton (D:19)
  An orange demon (Abyss)
  An ice dragon skeleton (Vault:3)
  An elephant (Lair:5)
  11 yaktaurs
  2 rock trolls
  8 slime creatures
  A mermaid (Shoals:1)
  A naga mage (Snake:2)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:7)
  34 ugly things
  An agate snail zombie (Abyss)
  A queen bee (Hive:2)
  A large large abomination (Abyss)
  A spriggan (shapeshifter) (Vault:2)
  5 trolls
  A redback (Vault:5)
  12 blink frogs
  14 two-headed ogres
  A deep troll skeleton (D:23)
  2 rock troll skeletons
  6 giant toads
  A redback zombie (D:17)
  2 viper zombies (Snake:4)
  A fire elemental (Vault:4)
  Edmund (D:6)
  3 vipers
  3 vampires
  6 wraiths
  Eustachio (D:9)
  A hairy devil (Vault:5)
  2 wyverns
  4 vampire mosquitoes
  A steam dragon (D:13)
  26 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:8)
  3 merfolk
  2 hippogriffs
  3 deep elf fighters
  2 war dogs (Lair:3)
  2 rock worms
  A yaktaur zombie (D:23)
  A fire drake (Lair:1)
  A giant slug zombie (Vault:4)
  11 orc warriors
  2 elves (shapeshifter)
  9 necrophages
  2 soldier ants
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  A manticore (D:11)
  A mottled dragon (Vault:2)
  An orange crystal statue (D:13)
  2 freezing wraiths
  3 sky beasts
  An ice beast (D:6)
  A giant goldfish (Vault:2)
  The ghost of x424 the Cudgeler, an average MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:4)
  18 ogres
  4 gila monsters
  3 phantoms
  4 crocodiles
  A kobold demonologist (D:19)
  28 centaurs
  29 nagas
  3 big kobolds
  3 boulder beetle zombies
  A naga (shapeshifter) (Vault:4)
  8 giant frogs
  2 electric eels (Hive:2)
  A small abomination (D:9)
  2 giant slugs
  A deep elf mage (D:18)
  A warg (Orc:3)
  5 agate snails
  A soldier ant zombie (D:23)
  3 water moccasin zombies (Snake:4)
  An eye of draining (D:10)
  11 water moccasins
  A boulder beetle (Lair:5)
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  2 killer bee zombies
  7 wights
  3 big kobold zombies
  101 killer bees
  2 big kobold skeletons
  An iron imp (D:19)
  2 shadows
  Crazy Yiuf (D:6)
  2 big fish (Vault:2)
  18 orc priests
  13 hounds
  An imp (D:5)
  2 spiders (D:13)
  5 iguanas
  4 scorpions
  3 worker ants
  A worker ant zombie (D:17)
  6 porcupines
  20 orc wizards
  14 sheep
  Ijyb (D:2)
  A boggart (D:18)
  3 jellies
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:10)
  2 mummies
  A flying skull (Hive:2)
  5 gnolls
  27 green rats
  29 snakes
  3 giant centipedes
  A midge (D:9)
  A scorpion zombie (D:5)
  A giant centipede zombie (D:17)
  2 snake zombies (Snake:4)
  2 snake skeletons
  A white imp (D:9)
  9 worms
  A giant mite (D:20)
  4 ufetubi
  2 grey rats
  2 giant eyeballs
  An ooze (D:6)
  93 orcs
  5 giant cockroaches
  26 goblins
  15 hobgoblins
  27 jackals
  35 kobolds
  9 quokkas
  A small snake (Snake:1)
  6 giant geckos
  6 giant newts
  24 killer bee larvae
  A kobold skeleton (D:5)
  28 megabats
  2 orc skeletons
  An orc zombie (D:17)
  A quokka skeleton (D:23)
  A quokka zombie (D:8)
  26 rats
  2 small snake zombies (Snake:4)
  A ballistomycete (D:12)
  10 fungi
  19 plants
  24 toadstools
1101 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Xtahua (Vault:3)
  Frederick (D:23)
  Aizul (Vault:2)
  Wiglaf (Vault:2)
  The ghost of x324 the Bludgeoner, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (Orc:4)
  2 stone giants
  2 storm dragon zombies
  6 yaktaur captains
  2 ettins (D:23)
  A dragon (D:19)
  2 great orbs of eyes
  A siren (shapeshifter) (Vault:4)
  A titan skeleton (D:22)
  The ghost of x361 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:12)
  The ghost of x362 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (Lair:2)
  An ice dragon (D:22)
  7 ogre magi
  4 hydras
  An anaconda (Snake:2)
  2 stone giant zombies
  A shadow dragon skeleton (D:19)
  2 frost giant zombies
  3 death yaks (Lair:7)
  An orc high priest (Vault:5)
  8 centaur warriors
  3 very ugly things
  An elf (shapeshifter) (D:20)
  8 stone giant skeletons
  3 iron trolls
  A soul eater (Vault:4)
  2 skeletal warriors (Vault:1)
  2 deep elf knights (D:18)
  2 griffons
  A naga warrior (Snake:2)
  A wizard (D:21)
  2 necromancers
  7 orc knights
  9 hill giants
  2 spiny worms (Vault:4)
  3 giant amoebae
  6 cyclopes
  3 harpies (Vault:5)
  An iron troll skeleton (D:18)
  2 hellions
  2 ettin zombies
  Maurice (D:12)
  2 weapon mimics
  2 stair mimics
  A sixfirhy (Vault:4)
  4 fire crabs
  A door mimic (D:15)
  2 trapdoor spiders
  8 elephants
  A shop mimic (D:15)
  An orange demon (Vault:5)
  8 rock trolls
  16 black mambas
  10 slime creatures
  3 spiny frogs
  26 yaktaurs
  3 hellwings (Vault:5)
  4 naga magi
  A hill giant skeleton (Vault:5)
  46 ugly things
  2 komodo dragons
  2 spriggans (shapeshifter)
  15 two-headed ogres
  5 trolls
  An iron devil (Vault:5)
  4 snapping turtles (Shoals:1)
  A rock troll zombie (Vault:3)
  4 rock troll skeletons
  6 blink frogs
  8 giant toads
  3 orc zombies (Vault:5)
  2 neqoxecs (Vault:4)
  A blue devil (Vault:5)
  A vampire (Vault:2)
  3 ynoxinuls (Vault:5)
  3 merfolk
  37 yaks
  4 hippogriffs
  2 viper zombies (Snake:4)
  4 vipers
  2 wyverns
  A hungry ghost (D:20)
  A fire crab zombie (Vault:5)
  A war dog (Lair:3)
  8 vampire mosquitoes
  2 wraiths
  2 mottled dragons
  4 manticores
  2 freezing wraiths
  A gargoyle (Vault:2)
  2 soldier ants
  A cyclops zombie (D:13)
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  37 ogres
  A black bear (Lair:3)
  A red devil (Vault:5)
  16 orc warriors
  3 yellow wasps
  4 gila monsters
  32 nagas
  3 crocodiles
  10 giant goldfish
  A troll skeleton (D:16)
  17 centaurs
  2 rotting devils (Vault:3)
  2 big kobolds (D:19)
  8 giant frogs
  6 giant slugs
  A boulder beetle zombie (Vault:3)
  13 water moccasins
  A brain worm (D:16)
  2 wargs
  2 agate snails
  A water moccasin zombie (Snake:4)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:17)
  A jellyfish (Hive:2)
  2 boulder beetles
  42 killer bees
  2 wights
  4 electric eels (Vault:2)
  6 spiders (D:13)
  4 imps
  2 goliath beetles
  2 hounds (Lair:1)
  6 orc priests
  A quasit (D:11)
  2 big fish (Vault:2)
  2 humans (shapeshifter)
  2 orange rats (Vault:2)
  An iguana (Lair:5)
  6 orc wizards
  A porcupine (Lair:4)
  3 worker ants
  13 sheep
  A steam dragon zombie (D:12)
  A boggart (D:18)
  16 snakes
  3 gnolls
  19 green rats
  A snake zombie (Snake:4)
  3 white imps (Vault:4)
  A shadow imp (Vault:4)
  2 giant centipedes
  A snake skeleton (Vault:3)
  A worm (Lair:5)
  13 ufetubi
  6 grey rats
  2 giant geckos
  2 oozes
  32 orcs
  A giant cockroach (D:4)
  5 goblins
  2 hobgoblins
  5 jackals
  7 kobolds
  4 quokkas
  A giant newt (D:9)
  3 killer bee larvae (Hive:2)
  13 megabats
  A quokka skeleton (Vault:5)
  8 rats
  2 small snake zombies (Snake:4)
  A ballistomycete (D:12)
  A bush (Lair:6)
  A butterfly (Shoals:1)
  12 fungi
  25 plants
  5 toadstools
859 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 ghouls
  A spectral spriggan (Vault:5)
  2 death cobs
  2 harpy zombies (Vault:5)
  6 skeletal warriors
  A flayed ghost (D:23)
  2 flaming corpses
  A phantasmal warrior (Vault:5)
  9 slime creatures
  A rotting hulk (D:14)
  A two-headed ogre (Vault:2)
  A ynoxinul (Vault:4)
  A wraith (Hive:2)
  An orc skeleton (Vault:5)
  A fire drake zombie (Lair:1)
  A troll zombie (Snake:1)
  2 yaktaur zombies (Vault:1)
  6 freezing wraiths
  A wyvern zombie (Lair:4)
  A yak zombie (D:11)
  A war dog zombie (Lair:4)
  3 naga zombies
  14 centaur zombies
  A fire crab simulacrum (D:17)
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:9)
  A two-headed ogre zombie (Orc:4)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:15)
  21 killer bee zombies (Hive:2)
  7 wights
  A human (D:8)
  A human zombie (D:12)
  A big kobold zombie (D:9)
  4 ogre zombies
  A hound zombie (D:4)
  A spider zombie (D:13)
  An orc wizard (D:9)
  A sheep (Vault:4)
  A boggart (D:18)
  A mummy (Vault:1)
  19 flying skulls
  A giant centipede zombie (D:13)
  A snake (Lair:1)
  5 sheep zombies
  2 porcupine zombies
  5 snake zombies
  A worm (D:23)
  3 ufetubi (Abyss)
  A megabat zombie (D:17)
  A gnoll zombie (D:9)
  A green rat zombie (Lair:7)
  3 orcs
  A jackal (D:9)
  A kobold (D:8)
  A giant newt (Lair:1)
  A giant spore (D:12)
  3 goblin zombies
  3 hobgoblin zombies
  9 jackal zombies
  A killer bee larva (Hive:2)
  9 killer bee larva zombies (Hive:2)
  7 kobold zombies
  36 orc zombies
  2 fungi
  3 plants (Hive:2)
  115 toadstools
342 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2302 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | x438, the Mountain Dwarf Death Knight, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 2/2
   167 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
   451 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/20 MP: 3/4
   997 | D:1      | Acquired Yredelemnul's second power
  1331 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
  1346 | D:2      | Defeated Ijyb
  1346 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/27 MP: 4/4
  1718 | D:2      | Noticed a jelly
  1749 | D:2      | Defeated a jelly
  1749 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/33 MP: 4/6
  2142 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  2479 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 36/41 MP: 7/8
  3528 | D:4      | Noticed x424's ghost (average MDDK)
  3539 | D:4      | Defeated x424's ghost
  3539 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/47 MP: 9/9
  3702 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3714 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3882 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  3882 | D:4      | Acquired Yredelemnul's third power
  3888 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  3893 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
  4218 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4224 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4773 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 27/55 MP: 11/11
  5070 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5188 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  6169 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  6183 | D:6      | Defeated Edmund
  6183 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/62 MP: 12/13
  6208 | D:6      | Acquired Yredelemnul's fourth power
  6269 | D:6      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  6287 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  6289 | D:6      | Defeated Crazy Yiuf
  6747 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  7491 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  7799 | D:7      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  8344 | D:8      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  8356 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 56/71 MP: 14/14
  8683 | D:8      | Got a faintly glowing glass ring
  8960 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  9218 | D:8      | Identified the ring of Elyvilon's Vengeance (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in colourless scales (AC +1).
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet.
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
  9471 | D:8      | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
  9776 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  9778 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 10209 | D:9      | Found Ruryq's Magical Wand Shop.
 10229 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
 10234 | D:9      | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 10291 | D:9      | Noticed Eustachio
 10301 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 10307 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 10316 | D:9      | Defeated Eustachio
 10316 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 72/72 MP: 17/18
 10320 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 10413 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10808 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 10872 | Orc:2    | Noticed Urug
 10901 | Orc:2    | Defeated Urug
 10906 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 10949 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
 11518 | D:10     | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 11590 | D:10     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 11719 | D:10     | You fall through a shaft!
 12200 | D:10     | Noticed x435's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 12521 | D:10     | Defeated x435's ghost
 13093 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 80/80 MP: 19/19
 13191 | D:10     | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 13463 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 13489 | D:11     | Got a shimmering buckler
 13505 | D:11     | Identified the +4 buckler of Boiling Hail (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 13556 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 13715 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 14281 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14827 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 15087 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 15468 | Hive:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
 15476 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 15489 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 15587 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 15730 | Hive:2   | Entered Level 2 of the Hive
 16208 | Hive:2   | Acquired Yredelemnul's fifth power
 16285 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 16620 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 16670 | Hive:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 32/90 MP: 21/21
 17404 | Hive:2   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 17640 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 18369 | Hive:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 18941 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 19001 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 19552 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 20088 | Lair:2   | Noticed x362's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 20101 | Lair:2   | Defeated x362's ghost
 20565 | D:12     | Found Qalavaam's Jewellery Emporium.
 20568 | D:12     | Noticed Gastronok
 20589 | D:12     | Defeated Gastronok
 20598 | D:12     | Noticed x361's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 20614 | D:12     | Defeated x361's ghost
 20760 | D:12     | Noticed Maurice
 20776 | D:12     | Defeated Maurice
 20794 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Traps & Doors
 21577 | Orc:3    | Found Enorruil's Weapon Shoppe.
 21591 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 21849 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 21849 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 21980 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 22015 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 22020 | Orc:4    | Noticed x324's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 22042 | Orc:4    | Defeated x324's ghost
 22157 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22158 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22159 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22160 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22160 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22161 | Orc:4    | Noticed an ogre mage
 22164 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22164 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 13. HP: 95/100 MP: 24/24
 22165 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22169 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22170 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22170 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22176 | Orc:4    | Noticed an ogre mage
 22178 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22179 | Orc:4    | Defeated an ogre mage
 22182 | Orc:4    | Defeated an ogre mage
 22183 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 22191 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 22191 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22192 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22193 | Orc:4    | Found Greareag's Magic Scroll Shop.
 22193 | Orc:4    | Found Plufu's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 22194 | Orc:4    | Found Bleorea's Magical Wand Emporium.
 22194 | Orc:4    | Found Cousmar's Distillery.
 22198 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22207 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22208 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22208 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22210 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22211 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22212 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22214 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22215 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22215 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22218 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22263 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of noise for 2 gold pieces
 22269 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of berserk rage for 42 gold pieces
 22269 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of strong poison for 1 gold piece
 23174 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 23225 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 23373 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 23790 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 23790 | Snake:1  | Found Saph's Book Shoppe.
 23790 | Snake:1  | Noticed Snorg
 23800 | Snake:1  | Defeated Snorg
 24765 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25055 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25128 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
 25546 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25717 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 26705 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
 26713 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 112/112 MP: 26/27
 26724 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27086 | Lair:6   | Got a black book
 27617 | D:13     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27617 | D:13     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27882 | D:13     | Noticed Jozef
 27899 | D:13     | Defeated Jozef
 28110 | D:13     | Identified Geihieh's Incunabulum of Glacial Protection (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 28320 | D:13     | Got a crude sabre
 28756 | D:14     | Identified the sabre "Truxyrer" {slice, *TELE rPois} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 29008 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
 29008 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You have large cloven feet.
 29447 | D:14     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 29686 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 30014 | D:15     | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 30310 | D:15     | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 31266 | D:16     | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 32184 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 32437 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 32969 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 33953 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 34141 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 34216 | Shoals:1 | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 34531 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 34898 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 135/135 MP: 27/27
 35271 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Traps & Doors
 35830 | D:17     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 35953 | D:17     | You fall through a shaft!
 36753 | D:17     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 37798 | D:18     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 37805 | D:18     | You are cast into the Abyss!
 37805 | D:18     | Cast into the Abyss (the power of Zot)
 37805 | Abyss    | Entered The Abyss
 37997 | Abyss    | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 38058 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
 38059 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating.
 38073 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
 38078 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: You have a slow metabolism.
 38134 | Abyss    | Noticed a red draconian
 38193 | Abyss    | Noticed a fire elemental
 38254 | Abyss    | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 38256 | Abyss    | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 38260 | Abyss    | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 38263 | Abyss    | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 38278 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
 38411 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your deformed body.
 38515 | Abyss    | Noticed a green ugly thing
 38516 | Abyss    | Noticed a green ugly thing
 38538 | D:18     | You pass through the gate.
 39132 | D:18     | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 39891 | Vault:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 39934 | Vault:1  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 40237 | Vault:1  | Found Esiokamo's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 40274 | Vault:1  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 40915 | Vault:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 40918 | Vault:2  | Paralysed by an ogre mage for 7 turns
 41055 | Vault:2  | Noticed Wiglaf
 41075 | Vault:2  | Defeated Wiglaf
 41115 | Vault:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 41657 | Vault:2  | Noticed Aizul
 41670 | Vault:2  | Defeated Aizul
 41794 | Vault:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 41945 | Vault:2  | Noticed a gargoyle
 41949 | Vault:2  | Defeated a gargoyle
 42324 | D:19     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 141/146 MP: 29/29
 42416 | D:19     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 42449 | D:19     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 42552 | Lab      | Entered a Labyrinth
 43430 | Lab      | Got an ancient morningstar
 43447 | Lab      | Identified the cursed +7,-2 morningstar of Icuonuif (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 43449 | Lab      | Got a crystal great mace
 43455 | D:19     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 43844 | D:19     | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 44207 | Hive:2   | Identified a +2 pair of boots of running (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 44374 | Hive:2   | Identified the cursed great mace "Utuwiklu" {freeze, SInv Stlth-} (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 44677 | D:20     | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
 45987 | D:21     | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 46071 | D:21     | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 46337 | D:21     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 46560 | D:21     | Found a gateway to Hell.
 47162 | D:22     | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 47554 | D:22     | Found Voptuasa's General Store.
 47762 | D:23     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 47877 | D:23     | Noticed Frederick
 47887 | D:23     | Defeated Frederick
 47887 | D:23     | Reached XP level 17. HP: 134/156 MP: 27/30
 47888 | D:23     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 49779 | D:18     | Noticed a deep elf mage
 49784 | D:18     | Defeated a deep elf mage
 50027 | Vault:3  | Noticed Xtahua
 50029 | Vault:3  | Defeated Xtahua
 50614 | Vault:3  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 50731 | Vault:3  | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 51294 | Vault:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 51524 | Vault:4  | Noticed a vapour
 51538 | Vault:4  | Defeated a vapour
 51540 | Vault:4  | Got a dazzling ring mail
 52693 | Vault:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 53061 | Vault:4  | Noticed a fire elemental
 53071 | Vault:4  | Defeated a fire elemental
 53311 | Vault:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 54088 | Vault:5  | Noticed Agnes
 54209 | Vault:5  | Noticed Boris
 54226 | Vault:5  | Defeated Boris
 54226 | Vault:5  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 99/164 MP: 16/31
 54564 | Vault:5  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 157/157 MP: 18/30
 54601 | Vault:5  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 54794 | Vault:5  | Identified the cursed +3 ring mail of the Hall of Blades (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 54840 | Vault:5  | Got a warped plate mail
 54841 | Vault:5  | Identified the +1 plate mail of the Morning Star (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 55079 | Vault:5  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 55083 | Vault:5  | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 55504 | Vault:6  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 164/164 MP: 31/31
 55535 | Vault:6  | Found Sufez's Jewellery Emporium.
 55694 | Vault:6  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 55898 | Vault:6  | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 55937 | Vault:6  | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
 56825 | trove    | Entered a treasure trove
 56871 | trove    | Got a droning book
 56874 | trove    | Got an engraved book
 56887 | trove    | Got a levitating book
 56897 | trove    | Identified Sif Muna's Compendium of the Rattle-Snake (You found it in a treasure trove)
 56897 | trove    | Identified Olocanne's Compendium of Execration (You found it in a treasure trove)
 56897 | trove    | Identified Sif Muna's Guide on Mutagenic Flames (You found it in a treasure trove)

If at first you don't succeed, throw more bodies at the problem.

Vaults Vanquisher

Posts: 461

Joined: Monday, 13th June 2011, 00:21

Post Friday, 22nd July 2011, 01:33

Re: CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been

You can read manuals with an empty XP pool without wasting XP, yes. But you will waste a charge on the manual, and you might kick yourself if it's something like Fighting, Shields, Armor, or some other major skill for your character. I would wait to ID it. Identify scrolls are very common, it's worth waiting.

10 Traps and Doors is sufficient not to get nailed by traps in Zot, so yeah, you're good there.

Weapons. If you're saving your enchant scrolls, I recommend the best one-handed weapon for your category (which in this case would be a demon whip or eveningstar) that has the elec or antimagic brand. Unfortunately, they can be rare unless you're a worshiper of Trog/Okawaru (which you aren't). I've never seen a demon whip in the Hall of Blades, but I HAVE seen plenty of other mace-types, with a very good chance of a nice brand. I should mention that hell knights and Balrugs sometimes spawn with demon whips (and the former come in packs), so you might keep an eye out for them, too.

Armor. Since you're a heavy armor user, you probably want to wait until you find golden dragon or crystal plate mail for your enchant scrolls, assuming you don't find some randart plate with stellar properties. Failing that, your current armor isn't the worst armor in the world to enchant up. While we're on the subject, try to get a large shield as soon as you can. Yes, a buckler of cold resistance is nice, but you already have the first pip of cold resistance, which is the most important. IMO, having a much higher SH would protect your character even more than a second level of rC.

Yes, the Crypt IS full of undead. They're actually pretty pedestrian undead until you get to the last level, which often contains ancient liches, the more advanced mummies, and other horrors. Probably not worthwhile for your character, no. Your current plan - finish the main Dungeon, then come back for Snake/Shoal:5 - isn't a bad one. I also recommend Vault:8 at some point (probably after that), especially if you can find more rN. Since you know you can survive the Abyss (and have rMut), don't forget there's a rune there, too.

Lair Larrikin

Posts: 20

Joined: Tuesday, 26th April 2011, 14:29

Location: Kansas, USA

Post Saturday, 23rd July 2011, 16:27

Another dead MDDK

Well, it was fun, turns out that one of the manuals was a shield one, and that Ice Fiends live in ice caves or at least one does. I thought that doing the ice cave with my 2 ticks of rC would be ok, and that I would find something worth while in there after Blades was a bust. Thanks for the lessons, I don't think it was a stupid death, I just got in over my head and learned something, namely that I should have cleared Vault:7 and skipped out on the ice cave. But when the fiend popped going back through the freezing vapors to the portal wasn't an option and I didn't even think about trying to dig my way to freedom or take a chance on a telleport throwing me clear.

one last dump for the curious
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.1 character file.

193833 x438 the Warrior (level 18, -11/168 HPs)
             Began as a Mountain Dwarf Death Knight on July 17, 2011.
             Was an Elder of Yredelemnul.
             Mangled by an ice devil (15 damage)
             ... in an ice cave on July 23, 2011.
             The game lasted 07:30:01 (60653 turns).

x438 the Warrior (Mountain Dwarf Death Knight)                                         Turns: 60653, Time: 07:30:01

HP -11/168       AC 36     Str 31 (34) Exp: 18/289248 (2150), need: 17551
MP  31/31        EV  7     Int  8      God: Yredelemnul [****..]
Gold 3134        SH 24     Dex 10 (11) Spells:  0 memorised, 19 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +    a - +5,+4 flail (protect)
Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : . .  S - +3 plate mail {rC+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    u - +4 buckler of Boiling Hail {rC+}
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    d - +2 dwarf spiked helmet {SInv}
Res.Poison: .       Clarity    : .    J - +2 cloak
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    F - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    V - +2 pair of boots {run}
Res.Mut.  : +       Ctrl.Telep.: .    Y - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    M - +3,+2 ring of slaying
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .    r - +1,+3 ring of slaying

@: mighty, injury mirror, quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: blurry vision 1, deformed body 2, deterioration 1, slow metabolism 1, AC +1, Int -1
a: Animate Dead, Recall Undead Slaves, Injury Mirror, Drain Life, Renounce Religion


You were in an ice cave.
You worshipped Yredelemnul.
Yredelemnul was extremely pleased with you.
You were very hungry.

You visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and saw 52 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You visited 1 Labyrinth.
You visited 2 portal chambers: trove, ice cave.

You collected 3916 gold pieces.
You spent 802 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +5,+4 flail of protection (weapon)
 b - a +6,+2 flail of distortion
 e - a +0,+0 knife
Missiles
 h - 7 exploding +0 darts
 y - 41 +0 darts of frost (quivered)
 U - 22 +3 darts
Armour
 c - a +2 chain mail of fire resistance
 d - a +2 dwarven spiked helmet of see invisible (worn)
 u - the +4 buckler of Boiling Hail (worn) {rC+}
   (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)   
   
   
   It protects you from cold.
 F - a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 J - a +2 cloak (worn)
 S - a +3 plate mail of cold resistance (worn)
 V - a +2 pair of boots of running (worn)
Magical devices
 g - a wand of slowing (8)
 j - a wand of slowing (4)
 l - a wand of teleportation (9)
 q - a wand of enslavement (11)
 w - a wand of lightning (8)
 H - a wand of fireball (0)
 I - a wand of disintegration (17)
 Q - a wand of hasting (1)
 R - a wand of cold (6)
 W - a wand of digging (8)
 X - a wand of draining (9)
Comestibles
 m - a choko
 n - 3 bread rations
Scrolls
 i - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 o - 3 scrolls of identify
 B - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
Jewellery
 r - a +1,+3 ring of slaying (left hand)
 v - an uncursed ring of levitation
 x - an uncursed amulet of controlled flight
 z - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
 M - a +3,+2 ring of slaying (right hand)
 T - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 Y - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
Books
 C - a manual of Shields


 You had 2150 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 17 Fighting
 - Level 15 Maces & Flails
 + Level 2 Slings
 - Level 2 Throwing
 + Level 17 Armour
 - Level 4 Dodging
 - Level 2 Stealth
 - Level 2 Stabbing
 + Level 16 Shields
 - Level 10 Traps & Doors
 - Level 3 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 1 Spellcasting
 + Level 14 Invocations
 + Level 3 Evocations


You had 19 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (23/27)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:8
    Elf (0/5) Orc:4          Lair (7/8) D:11         Shoals (2/5) Lair:4
  Snake (5/5) Lair:4         Hive (2/2) D:11          Vault (7/8) D:17
  Blade (1/1) Vault:6       Crypt (0/5) Vault:3     
 Slime: Lair:6-8   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:9: /  D:12: =  D:22: *  Orc:3: (  Orc:4: /?!?  Snake:1: +  Vault:1: ?  Vault:6: =

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23
Abyss: D:22
Ziggurat: D:16 (6990 gp)

Annotations
Lair:7 exclusion: 3 oklob plants
Snake:3 1 exclusion


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are partially covered in colourless scales (AC +1).
Your vision is a little blurry.
Armour fits poorly on your deformed body.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.
You are dopey (Int -1).
You have a slow metabolism.


Message History

You see here 3 needles of sickness.
You bludgeon the ice devil!!
The ice devil is moderately wounded.
The ice devil hits you but does no damage.
You barely miss the ice devil. The ice devil hits you. The ice devil freezes you!
You die...
Your body rises from the dead as a mindless zombie.

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You could see an ice devil, a freezing wraith, a polar bear simulacrum and a naga simulacrum.

Vanquished Creatures
  Boris (Vault:5)
  An Ice Fiend (IceCv)
  Gastronok (D:12)
  A stone giant (D:21)
  Jozef (D:13)
  Snorg (Snake:1)
  3 yaktaur captains
  A storm dragon zombie (Vault:5)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  The ghost of x435 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:10)
  3 hydras
  2 anacondas
  3 ogre magi
  3 death yaks (Lair:7)
  An orc high priest (Vault:4)
  A vapour (Vault:4)
  A very ugly thing (Vault:6)
  A frost giant skeleton (D:22)
  11 centaur warriors
  3 stone giant skeletons
  A griffon (Vault:3)
  2 dancing weapons (Blade)
  5 ice devils
  An iron troll (D:23)
  A skeletal warrior (Vault:1)
  2 naga warriors
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  A giant amoeba (Vault:3)
  2 flayed ghosts
  2 orc sorcerers
  2 orc knights
  6 unseen horrors
  Urug (Orc:2)
  A harpy (Vault:5)
  5 hill giants
  A red wasp (D:20)
  2 spiny worms
  A sixfirhy (Vault:4)
  5 black mambas
  A cyclops (D:19)
  A red wasp zombie (D:23)
  A shop mimic (D:17)
  A wolf spider (D:18)
  An elephant slug (Lair:6)
  3 trapdoor spider zombies
  4 spiny frogs
  2 black mamba zombies (Snake:4)
  A griffon skeleton (D:19)
  An orange demon (Abyss)
  An ice dragon skeleton (Vault:3)
  An elephant (Lair:5)
  11 yaktaurs
  3 rock trolls
  8 slime creatures
  A mermaid (Shoals:1)
  A naga mage (Snake:2)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:7)
  34 ugly things
  An agate snail zombie (Abyss)
  A queen bee (Hive:2)
  A large large abomination (Abyss)
  A spriggan (shapeshifter) (Vault:2)
  6 trolls
  A redback (Vault:5)
  12 blink frogs
  14 two-headed ogres
  2 deep troll skeletons (D:23)
  2 rock troll skeletons
  6 giant toads
  A redback zombie (D:17)
  2 viper zombies (Snake:4)
  A fire elemental (Vault:4)
  Edmund (D:6)
  3 vipers
  3 vampires
  6 wraiths
  Eustachio (D:9)
  A hairy devil (Vault:5)
  2 wyverns
  5 vampire mosquitoes
  A steam dragon (D:13)
  26 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:8)
  3 merfolk
  2 hippogriffs
  3 deep elf fighters
  2 war dogs (Lair:3)
  2 rock worms
  A yaktaur zombie (D:23)
  A fire drake (Lair:1)
  A giant slug zombie (Vault:4)
  12 orc warriors
  2 elves (shapeshifter)
  9 necrophages
  2 soldier ants
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  A manticore (D:11)
  A mottled dragon (Vault:2)
  An orange crystal statue (D:13)
  3 freezing wraiths
  3 sky beasts
  3 ice beasts
  5 elf simulacra (IceCv)
  A giant goldfish (Vault:2)
  The ghost of x424 the Cudgeler, an average MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:4)
  21 ogres
  4 gila monsters
  3 phantoms
  4 crocodiles
  A kobold demonologist (D:19)
  28 centaurs
  29 nagas
  3 big kobolds
  3 boulder beetle zombies
  A naga (shapeshifter) (Vault:4)
  8 giant frogs
  2 electric eels (Hive:2)
  A small abomination (D:9)
  3 giant slugs
  A deep elf mage (D:18)
  A warg (Orc:3)
  5 agate snails
  A soldier ant zombie (D:23)
  3 water moccasin zombies (Snake:4)
  An eye of draining (D:10)
  11 water moccasins
  A boulder beetle (Lair:5)
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  3 polar bear simulacra (IceCv)
  2 killer bee zombies
  4 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  7 wights
  3 big kobold zombies
  101 killer bees
  2 big kobold skeletons
  An iron imp (D:19)
  2 shadows
  Crazy Yiuf (D:6)
  2 big fish (Vault:2)
  5 centaur simulacra (IceCv)
  18 orc priests
  13 hounds
  An imp (D:5)
  2 spiders (D:13)
  5 iguanas
  4 scorpions
  3 worker ants
  A worker ant zombie (D:17)
  6 porcupines
  20 orc wizards
  14 sheep
  Ijyb (D:2)
  A boggart (D:18)
  3 jellies
  2 naga simulacra (IceCv)
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:10)
  2 mummies
  A flying skull (Hive:2)
  3 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
  5 gnolls
  27 green rats
  29 snakes
  3 giant centipedes
  A midge (D:9)
  A scorpion zombie (D:5)
  A giant centipede zombie (D:17)
  2 snake zombies (Snake:4)
  2 snake skeletons
  10 white imps
  9 worms
  A giant mite (D:20)
  15 ufetubi
  4 human simulacra (IceCv)
  2 grey rats
  2 giant eyeballs
  An ooze (D:6)
  96 orcs
  5 giant cockroaches
  26 goblins
  15 hobgoblins
  28 jackals
  35 kobolds
  9 quokkas
  A small snake (Snake:1)
  6 giant geckos
  6 giant newts
  24 killer bee larvae
  A kobold skeleton (D:5)
  28 megabats
  An orc simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 orc skeletons
  An orc zombie (D:17)
  A quokka skeleton (D:23)
  A quokka zombie (D:8)
  26 rats
  2 small snake zombies (Snake:4)
  A ballistomycete (D:12)
  10 fungi
  19 plants
  24 toadstools
1175 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Xtahua (Vault:3)
  Frederick (D:23)
  Aizul (Vault:2)
  Wiglaf (Vault:2)
  The ghost of x324 the Bludgeoner, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (Orc:4)
  4 stone giants
  2 storm dragon zombies
  7 yaktaur captains
  2 ettins (D:23)
  A dragon (D:19)
  2 great orbs of eyes
  A siren (shapeshifter) (Vault:4)
  A titan skeleton (D:22)
  The ghost of x361 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (D:12)
  The ghost of x362 the Basher, a powerful MDDK of Yredelemnul (Lair:2)
  An ice dragon (D:22)
  7 ogre magi
  4 hydras
  An anaconda (Snake:2)
  14 dancing weapons (Blade)
  2 stone giant zombies
  A shadow dragon skeleton (D:19)
  2 frost giant zombies
  3 death yaks (Lair:7)
  An orc high priest (Vault:5)
  9 centaur warriors
  3 very ugly things
  An elf (shapeshifter) (D:20)
  9 stone giant skeletons
  3 iron trolls
  A soul eater (Vault:4)
  2 skeletal warriors (Vault:1)
  2 deep elf knights (D:18)
  2 griffons
  A naga warrior (Snake:2)
  A wizard (D:21)
  2 necromancers
  7 orc knights
  9 hill giants
  2 spiny worms (Vault:4)
  3 giant amoebae
  6 cyclopes
  3 harpies (Vault:5)
  An iron troll skeleton (D:18)
  2 hellions
  2 ettin zombies
  Maurice (D:12)
  2 weapon mimics
  2 stair mimics
  A sixfirhy (Vault:4)
  4 fire crabs
  A door mimic (D:15)
  2 trapdoor spiders
  8 elephants
  A shop mimic (D:15)
  An orange demon (Vault:5)
  9 rock trolls
  16 black mambas
  10 slime creatures
  3 spiny frogs
  28 yaktaurs
  3 hellwings (Vault:5)
  4 naga magi
  A hill giant skeleton (Vault:5)
  46 ugly things
  2 komodo dragons
  2 spriggans (shapeshifter)
  16 two-headed ogres
  5 trolls
  An iron devil (Vault:5)
  4 snapping turtles (Shoals:1)
  A rock troll zombie (Vault:3)
  4 rock troll skeletons
  6 blink frogs
  8 giant toads
  3 orc zombies (Vault:5)
  2 neqoxecs (Vault:4)
  A blue devil (Vault:5)
  A vampire (Vault:2)
  3 ynoxinuls (Vault:5)
  3 merfolk
  37 yaks
  4 hippogriffs
  2 viper zombies (Snake:4)
  4 vipers
  2 wyverns
  A hungry ghost (D:20)
  A fire crab zombie (Vault:5)
  A war dog (Lair:3)
  10 vampire mosquitoes
  2 wraiths
  2 mottled dragons
  4 manticores
  2 freezing wraiths
  A gargoyle (Vault:2)
  2 soldier ants
  A cyclops zombie (D:13)
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  37 ogres
  A black bear (Lair:3)
  A red devil (Vault:5)
  16 orc warriors
  3 yellow wasps
  4 gila monsters
  32 nagas
  3 crocodiles
  11 giant goldfish
  A troll skeleton (D:16)
  17 centaurs
  2 rotting devils (Vault:3)
  2 big kobolds (D:19)
  8 giant frogs
  6 giant slugs
  A boulder beetle zombie (Vault:3)
  13 water moccasins
  A brain worm (D:16)
  2 wargs
  2 agate snails
  A water moccasin zombie (Snake:4)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:17)
  A jellyfish (Hive:2)
  2 boulder beetles
  42 killer bees
  2 wights
  4 electric eels (Vault:2)
  6 spiders (D:13)
  4 imps
  2 goliath beetles
  2 hounds (Lair:1)
  6 orc priests
  A quasit (D:11)
  2 big fish (Vault:2)
  2 humans (shapeshifter)
  2 orange rats (Vault:2)
  An iguana (Lair:5)
  6 orc wizards
  A porcupine (Lair:4)
  3 worker ants
  13 sheep
  A steam dragon zombie (D:12)
  A boggart (D:18)
  16 snakes
  3 gnolls
  19 green rats
  A snake zombie (Snake:4)
  3 white imps (Vault:4)
  A shadow imp (Vault:4)
  2 giant centipedes
  A snake skeleton (Vault:3)
  A worm (Lair:5)
  13 ufetubi
  6 grey rats
  2 giant geckos
  2 oozes
  32 orcs
  A giant cockroach (D:4)
  5 goblins
  2 hobgoblins
  5 jackals
  7 kobolds
  4 quokkas
  A giant newt (D:9)
  3 killer bee larvae (Hive:2)
  13 megabats
  A quokka skeleton (Vault:5)
  8 rats
  2 small snake zombies (Snake:4)
  A ballistomycete (D:12)
  A bush (Lair:6)
  A butterfly (Shoals:1)
  12 fungi
  25 plants
  5 toadstools
885 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 ghouls
  A spectral spriggan (Vault:5)
  2 death cobs
  2 harpy zombies (Vault:5)
  6 skeletal warriors
  A flayed ghost (D:23)
  3 flaming corpses
  2 phantasmal warriors
  9 slime creatures
  A rotting hulk (D:14)
  A two-headed ogre (Vault:2)
  A ynoxinul (Vault:4)
  A wraith (Hive:2)
  An orc skeleton (Vault:5)
  A fire drake zombie (Lair:1)
  A troll zombie (Snake:1)
  4 yaktaur zombies
  6 freezing wraiths
  A wyvern zombie (Lair:4)
  A yak zombie (D:11)
  A war dog zombie (Lair:4)
  3 naga zombies
  15 centaur zombies
  A fire crab simulacrum (D:17)
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:9)
  A two-headed ogre zombie (Orc:4)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:15)
  21 killer bee zombies (Hive:2)
  7 wights
  A human (D:8)
  A human zombie (D:12)
  A big kobold zombie (D:9)
  4 ogre zombies
  A hound zombie (D:4)
  A spider zombie (D:13)
  An orc wizard (D:9)
  A sheep (Vault:4)
  A boggart (D:18)
  A mummy (Vault:1)
  19 flying skulls
  A giant centipede zombie (D:13)
  A snake (Lair:1)
  5 sheep zombies
  2 porcupine zombies
  5 snake zombies
  A worm (D:23)
  3 ufetubi (Abyss)
  A megabat zombie (D:17)
  A gnoll zombie (D:9)
  A green rat zombie (Lair:7)
  3 orcs
  A jackal (D:9)
  A kobold (D:8)
  A giant newt (Lair:1)
  A giant spore (D:12)
  3 goblin zombies
  3 hobgoblin zombies
  9 jackal zombies
  A killer bee larva (Hive:2)
  9 killer bee larva zombies (Hive:2)
  7 kobold zombies
  37 orc zombies
  2 fungi
  3 plants (Hive:2)
  126 toadstools
359 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2419 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | x438, the Mountain Dwarf Death Knight, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 2/2
   167 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
   451 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/20 MP: 3/4
   997 | D:1      | Acquired Yredelemnul's second power
  1331 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
  1346 | D:2      | Defeated Ijyb
  1346 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/27 MP: 4/4
  1718 | D:2      | Noticed a jelly
  1749 | D:2      | Defeated a jelly
  1749 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/33 MP: 4/6
  2142 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  2479 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 36/41 MP: 7/8
  3528 | D:4      | Noticed x424's ghost (average MDDK)
  3539 | D:4      | Defeated x424's ghost
  3539 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/47 MP: 9/9
  3702 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3714 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3882 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  3882 | D:4      | Acquired Yredelemnul's third power
  3888 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  3893 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
  4218 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4224 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4773 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 27/55 MP: 11/11
  5070 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5188 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  6169 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  6183 | D:6      | Defeated Edmund
  6183 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/62 MP: 12/13
  6208 | D:6      | Acquired Yredelemnul's fourth power
  6269 | D:6      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  6287 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  6289 | D:6      | Defeated Crazy Yiuf
  6747 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  7491 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  7799 | D:7      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  8344 | D:8      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  8356 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 56/71 MP: 14/14
  8683 | D:8      | Got a faintly glowing glass ring
  8960 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  9218 | D:8      | Identified the ring of Elyvilon's Vengeance (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in colourless scales (AC +1).
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet.
  9438 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
  9471 | D:8      | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
  9776 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  9778 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 10209 | D:9      | Found Ruryq's Magical Wand Shop.
 10229 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
 10234 | D:9      | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 10291 | D:9      | Noticed Eustachio
 10301 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 10307 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 10316 | D:9      | Defeated Eustachio
 10316 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 72/72 MP: 17/18
 10320 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 10413 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10808 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 10872 | Orc:2    | Noticed Urug
 10901 | Orc:2    | Defeated Urug
 10906 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 10949 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
 11518 | D:10     | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 11590 | D:10     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 11719 | D:10     | You fall through a shaft!
 12200 | D:10     | Noticed x435's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 12521 | D:10     | Defeated x435's ghost
 13093 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 80/80 MP: 19/19
 13191 | D:10     | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 13463 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 13489 | D:11     | Got a shimmering buckler
 13505 | D:11     | Identified the +4 buckler of Boiling Hail (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 13556 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 13715 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 14281 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14827 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 15087 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 15468 | Hive:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
 15476 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 15489 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 15587 | Hive:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 15730 | Hive:2   | Entered Level 2 of the Hive
 16208 | Hive:2   | Acquired Yredelemnul's fifth power
 16285 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 16620 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 16670 | Hive:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 32/90 MP: 21/21
 17404 | Hive:2   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 17640 | Hive:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 18369 | Hive:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 18941 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 19001 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 19552 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 20088 | Lair:2   | Noticed x362's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 20101 | Lair:2   | Defeated x362's ghost
 20565 | D:12     | Found Qalavaam's Jewellery Emporium.
 20568 | D:12     | Noticed Gastronok
 20589 | D:12     | Defeated Gastronok
 20598 | D:12     | Noticed x361's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 20614 | D:12     | Defeated x361's ghost
 20760 | D:12     | Noticed Maurice
 20776 | D:12     | Defeated Maurice
 20794 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Traps & Doors
 21577 | Orc:3    | Found Enorruil's Weapon Shoppe.
 21591 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 21849 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 21849 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 21980 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 22015 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 22020 | Orc:4    | Noticed x324's ghost (powerful MDDK)
 22042 | Orc:4    | Defeated x324's ghost
 22157 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22158 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22159 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22160 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22160 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22161 | Orc:4    | Noticed an ogre mage
 22164 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22164 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 13. HP: 95/100 MP: 24/24
 22165 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22169 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22170 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22170 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22176 | Orc:4    | Noticed an ogre mage
 22178 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22179 | Orc:4    | Defeated an ogre mage
 22182 | Orc:4    | Defeated an ogre mage
 22183 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 22191 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 22191 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22192 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22193 | Orc:4    | Found Greareag's Magic Scroll Shop.
 22193 | Orc:4    | Found Plufu's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 22194 | Orc:4    | Found Bleorea's Magical Wand Emporium.
 22194 | Orc:4    | Found Cousmar's Distillery.
 22198 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22207 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22208 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22208 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22210 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22211 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22212 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22214 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22215 | Orc:4    | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 22215 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22218 | Orc:4    | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 22263 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of noise for 2 gold pieces
 22269 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of berserk rage for 42 gold pieces
 22269 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of strong poison for 1 gold piece
 23174 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 23225 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 23373 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 23790 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 23790 | Snake:1  | Found Saph's Book Shoppe.
 23790 | Snake:1  | Noticed Snorg
 23800 | Snake:1  | Defeated Snorg
 24765 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25055 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25128 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
 25546 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 25717 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 26705 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
 26713 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 112/112 MP: 26/27
 26724 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27086 | Lair:6   | Got a black book
 27617 | D:13     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27617 | D:13     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 27882 | D:13     | Noticed Jozef
 27899 | D:13     | Defeated Jozef
 28110 | D:13     | Identified Geihieh's Incunabulum of Glacial Protection (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 28320 | D:13     | Got a crude sabre
 28756 | D:14     | Identified the sabre "Truxyrer" {slice, *TELE rPois} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 29008 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
 29008 | D:14     | Lost mutation: You have large cloven feet.
 29447 | D:14     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 29686 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 30014 | D:15     | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 30310 | D:15     | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 31266 | D:16     | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 32184 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 32437 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 32969 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 33953 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 34141 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 34216 | Shoals:1 | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 34531 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 34898 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 135/135 MP: 27/27
 35271 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Traps & Doors
 35830 | D:17     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 35953 | D:17     | You fall through a shaft!
 36753 | D:17     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 37798 | D:18     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 37805 | D:18     | You are cast into the Abyss!
 37805 | D:18     | Cast into the Abyss (the power of Zot)
 37805 | Abyss    | Entered The Abyss
 37997 | Abyss    | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 38058 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
 38059 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating.
 38073 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
 38078 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: You have a slow metabolism.
 38134 | Abyss    | Noticed a red draconian
 38193 | Abyss    | Noticed a fire elemental
 38254 | Abyss    | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 38256 | Abyss    | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 38260 | Abyss    | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 38263 | Abyss    | Noticed a cyan ugly thing
 38278 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
 38411 | Abyss    | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your deformed body.
 38515 | Abyss    | Noticed a green ugly thing
 38516 | Abyss    | Noticed a green ugly thing
 38538 | D:18     | You pass through the gate.
 39132 | D:18     | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 39891 | Vault:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 39934 | Vault:1  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 40237 | Vault:1  | Found Esiokamo's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 40274 | Vault:1  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 40915 | Vault:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 40918 | Vault:2  | Paralysed by an ogre mage for 7 turns
 41055 | Vault:2  | Noticed Wiglaf
 41075 | Vault:2  | Defeated Wiglaf
 41115 | Vault:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 41657 | Vault:2  | Noticed Aizul
 41670 | Vault:2  | Defeated Aizul
 41794 | Vault:2  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 41945 | Vault:2  | Noticed a gargoyle
 41949 | Vault:2  | Defeated a gargoyle
 42324 | D:19     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 141/146 MP: 29/29
 42416 | D:19     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 42449 | D:19     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 42552 | Lab      | Entered a Labyrinth
 43430 | Lab      | Got an ancient morningstar
 43447 | Lab      | Identified the cursed +7,-2 morningstar of Icuonuif (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 43449 | Lab      | Got a crystal great mace
 43455 | D:19     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 43844 | D:19     | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 44207 | Hive:2   | Identified a +2 pair of boots of running (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 44374 | Hive:2   | Identified the cursed great mace "Utuwiklu" {freeze, SInv Stlth-} (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 44677 | D:20     | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
 45987 | D:21     | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 46071 | D:21     | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 46337 | D:21     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 46560 | D:21     | Found a gateway to Hell.
 47162 | D:22     | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 47554 | D:22     | Found Voptuasa's General Store.
 47762 | D:23     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 47877 | D:23     | Noticed Frederick
 47887 | D:23     | Defeated Frederick
 47887 | D:23     | Reached XP level 17. HP: 134/156 MP: 27/30
 47888 | D:23     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 49779 | D:18     | Noticed a deep elf mage
 49784 | D:18     | Defeated a deep elf mage
 50027 | Vault:3  | Noticed Xtahua
 50029 | Vault:3  | Defeated Xtahua
 50614 | Vault:3  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 50731 | Vault:3  | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 51294 | Vault:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 51524 | Vault:4  | Noticed a vapour
 51538 | Vault:4  | Defeated a vapour
 51540 | Vault:4  | Got a dazzling ring mail
 52693 | Vault:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 53061 | Vault:4  | Noticed a fire elemental
 53071 | Vault:4  | Defeated a fire elemental
 53311 | Vault:4  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 54088 | Vault:5  | Noticed Agnes
 54209 | Vault:5  | Noticed Boris
 54226 | Vault:5  | Defeated Boris
 54226 | Vault:5  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 99/164 MP: 16/31
 54564 | Vault:5  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 157/157 MP: 18/30
 54601 | Vault:5  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 54794 | Vault:5  | Identified the cursed +3 ring mail of the Hall of Blades (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 54840 | Vault:5  | Got a warped plate mail
 54841 | Vault:5  | Identified the +1 plate mail of the Morning Star (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 55079 | Vault:5  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 55083 | Vault:5  | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 55504 | Vault:6  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 164/164 MP: 31/31
 55535 | Vault:6  | Found Sufez's Jewellery Emporium.
 55694 | Vault:6  | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 55898 | Vault:6  | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 55937 | Vault:6  | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
 56825 | trove    | Entered a treasure trove
 56871 | trove    | Got a droning book
 56874 | trove    | Got an engraved book
 56887 | trove    | Got a levitating book
 56897 | trove    | Identified Sif Muna's Compendium of the Rattle-Snake (You found it in a treasure trove)
 56897 | trove    | Identified Olocanne's Compendium of Execration (You found it in a treasure trove)
 56897 | trove    | Identified Sif Muna's Guide on Mutagenic Flames (You found it in a treasure trove)
 57195 | D:10     | Received a gift from Yredelemnul
 57341 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 57341 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 57341 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 57341 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 57341 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 57343 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 81 gold pieces
 57343 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 34 gold pieces
 57343 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 34 gold pieces
 57343 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 34 gold pieces
 57345 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon III for 280 gold pieces
 57345 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 77 gold pieces
 57345 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 77 gold pieces
 58681 | Blade    | Entered the Hall of Blades
 59999 | Vault:7  | Found a frozen archway.
 60030 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 60647 | IceCv    | HP: 2/168 [Ice Fiend (23)]
 60653 | IceCv    | Mangled by an ice devil

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Halls Hopper

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Post Saturday, 23rd July 2011, 20:52

Re: CIP: MDDK diving where i've never been

Happy Corner wrote:Yes, the Crypt IS full of undead. They're actually pretty pedestrian undead until you get to the last level, which often contains ancient liches, the more advanced mummies, and other horrors. Probably not worthwhile for your character, no. Your current plan - finish the main Dungeon, then come back for Snake/Shoal:5 - isn't a bad one. I also recommend Vault:8 at some point (probably after that), especially if you can find more rN. Since you know you can survive the Abyss (and have rMut), don't forget there's a rune there, too.



Why not defect Yredelemnul for the Shining One for the extended late game?

- Yredelemnul loses power exactly in the branches where you can rack up Piety for the Shining One
- Your skills should fit very well - especially your trained Invocations skill is handy
- Yredelemnuls wrath will come and your old servants are going to be miffed - but TSO's abilities will help to survive those

Set your stash so you won't need access for a while, switch to TSO then directly dive into the Crypt. Ignore your old summons, they are not more than a nuisance but provide no gain either. With a bit of luck you get to ** piety before the first wrath hits you. Since Yredelemnul never messes with your mind, it will certainly survivable. And once you have survived that, you can start planning how to tackle Hell.

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