Shoals Surfer
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Joined: Monday, 17th December 2012, 16:04
Beogh feedback thread
One of the things he told me about are the recent changes to Beogh, i used to love playing with uh it(genderless right?) and I really liked what i heard, with some spare time on my hands I decided to see how these have panned out.
Me and my friend both tried a few Hofi^be"s and i would like to post our findings here:
Pro's:
1: I really love the new gifting interface whoever designed it kept it smooth and simple, making sure it works very intuitively, contrary to the old way of giving things which was quite a hassle and it took me and i expect most players quite some time to figure out there actually is/was a ctrl+t command to facilitate it.
2: Beogh now gifts weapons, armour and ammo, really helpfull and making it unneccessary to scum the floor or endlessly change pickup orders, to avoid the dreaded:"Arbeogh drops 255 arrows" "Arbeogh picks up 2 arrows of flaming"
Cons:
1: Only 1 gift is kindoff poor, you used to be able to create 2-3 "super" warlords with gda a nice randart weapon etc, this would give them the neccesary resists to survive the lair branches mid game and zot and similair branches later, also this seems like a nerf since even though it took some time to make them pick it up at least it was possible.
2: Beogh no longer upgrades gifted stuff or anything with an enchantment on it even if already worn by the orc, in previous versions he would enchant the armor and weapons and such you gave your orcs, I gave one of my orc warriors a chain mail (he had no armor) early to help him survive lair but it never upgraded to plate or got enchanted, even though he made it to warlord status and was with me a long time. Same thing happened with a battleaxe of freezing.
3: Even though he gifts ammo Beogh will not gift anything but bolts as far as i can tell, I gave one of my orcs a randart bow of velocity but he never gained any arrows.
4: I kindoff expected to be able to finally gift jewellery, since it was made opperable for enemies a while ago, and would greatly help giving them the resists they need to survive things like ice/poison clouds or the infamous fire crab.
Conclusion:
Beogh as far as i can tell has always been seen as one of the weaker gods, interface wise the new version is a huge improvement over the old one, still I think it would be a good thing if some of the above issues were adressed.
Mainly:
1: Only being able to gift once, maybe 3 gifts would make it so you can equip them with some lower level stuff early and upgrade it later with the cool stuff you find.
2: Make Beogh gift arrows, needles etc. if you gift a bow or blowgun.
3: Have Beogh upgrade non artifact weapons and armor you gift, and the branded versions orcs sometimes wear when they join, like he used to be able in the past.
I don't think scumming would be much of an issue since his gifts are few and far between also dragging an orc warlord along to gain a few enchant scrolls doesn't seem worth the xp drain.
bonus: Make it possible to gift orcs jewellery.