Quick FR: Make failing to cast a spell not cost a turn

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 16:51 by TeshiAlair

It drives me nuts that when you reflexively cast a spell with no valid targets, it uses a turn. The biggest case of this is while attacking an enemy that just turned invisible- if you are reflexively using the main attack spell, it just gives them free hits. Tabbing with no targets in view doesn't use turns, why should attempting to cast a spell with no targets do so?

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 17:03 by neil

TeshiAlair wrote:It drives me nuts that when you reflexively cast a spell with no valid targets, it uses a turn. The biggest case of this is while attacking an enemy that just turned invisible- if you are reflexively using the main attack spell, it just gives them free hits. Tabbing with no targets in view doesn't use turns, why should attempting to cast a spell with no targets do so?

What keys are you pressing exactly (and what spell is it)? Cancelling a spell doesn't cost a turn.

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 20:27 by TeshiAlair

I was using shock on Sigmund.

za. to zap him with autotarget. He goes invisible. za. gives the message "no acceptable targets," and then he hits me with a scythe.

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 20:29 by johlstei

TeshiAlair wrote:I was using shock on Sigmund.

za. to zap him with autotarget. He goes invisible. za. gives the message "no acceptable targets," and then he hits me with a scythe.

Ahh, you are hitting za, getting the no targets, and then waiting a turn with the '.'. Try using zaf instead. That definitely seems like a hazard of using the same button for targetting and waiting.

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 21:01 by tedric

yeah i do that a lot, on Dvorak keyboard layout . is less of a stretch than f so i have a hard time retraining myself

maybe this is an argument for using macros

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 21:02 by Wahaha

Somewhat related fr: please prevent certain spells and things like blowguns from targeting the player when no targets are in range. At least add a prompt. There used to be a prompt so why is it gone now? For example I'm firing needles at a sky beast, it goes invisible, and the next needle hits my character with no warning.

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 21:11 by duvessa

I still get a prompt in 0.15-a0-1949-g3bc2141.

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 21:13 by neil

Wahaha wrote:Somewhat related fr: please prevent certain spells and things like blowguns from targeting the player when no targets are in range. At least add a prompt. There used to be a prompt so why is it gone now? For example I'm firing needles at a sky beast, it goes invisible, and the next needle hits my character with no warning.

It should prompt you by default. This is controlled by the "allow_self_target" option; perhaps you changed that for some spell or another?

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 21:20 by johlstei

tedric wrote:yeah i do that a lot, on Dvorak keyboard layout . is less of a stretch than f so i have a hard time retraining myself

maybe this is an argument for using macros

Ahh, I can't imagine playing on dvorak. Even if I managed to switch for typing, I'd probably just make my own new layout of crawl buttons, rather than relying on the current ones which assume qwerty. At the very least I'd get yourself a new button to be "fire", and you can make 'f' whatever that used to be.

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 21:22 by Wahaha

Yes that was the problem, thanks. Now I remember changing it to be able to self-zap wands for the purpose of identification. I think it used to be impossible to self-zap hostile wands without changing this setting or something like that. Thankfully not necessary anymore.

Tuesday, 8th July 2014, 22:21 by neil

tedric wrote:yeah i do that a lot, on Dvorak keyboard layout . is less of a stretch than f so i have a hard time retraining myself

maybe this is an argument for using macros

You might try using Z rather than z; it doesn't auto-cancel when there are no targets. On the other hand, Za. (or Zaf or whatever) with no enemies would zap yourself. On the third hand, you would be prompted about the self-target.

Wednesday, 9th July 2014, 07:32 by tedric

Actually I quite like playing on Dvorak. Granted it took a few weeks to internalize the movement keys, as they're spread all across the board, but once I acclimated I realized I like it better that way. I've never liked the way 8-directional movement maps to keys that aren't in a perfect grid like the numpad (I used to play on a small laptop), and having the controls spread out means I use both hands pretty much constantly, which makes me feel more fully attuned to the game in a weird but pleasant way. If people can't see the screen, they usually assume I'm typing. :ugeek:

Wednesday, 9th July 2014, 07:36 by crate

using enter or space is identical to using "f" for targeting (and both are even safer than using f in the case described here)
you can also use "!" which is basically always at least as good as "f"

Wednesday, 9th July 2014, 08:51 by Patashu

Just copy and paste this into your rc and live happily ever after

Code:: # Set Alias' stop := runrest_stop_message ignore := runrest_ignore_message # Jiyva Messages : if you.god() == "Jiyva" then ignore += Jiyva gurgles merrily ignore += Jiyva appreciates your sacrifice ignore += Jiyva says: Divide and consume ignore += You hear.*splatter : end # Annoyances -- Don't stop autotravel for these events ignore += You feel.*sick ignore += disappears in a puff of smoke ignore += engulfed in a cloud of smoke ignore += standing in the rain ignore += engulfed in white fluffiness ignore += safely over a trap ignore += A.*toadstool withers and dies ignore += toadstools? grow ignore += You walk carefully through the ignore += grinding sound ignore += contamination has completely ignore += in your inventory.*rotted away # Bad things -- Stop autotravel for these events stop += found a zot trap stop += Wait a moment stop += You fall through a shaft stop += An alarm trap emits a blaring wail stop += (blundered into a|invokes the power of) Zot stop += hear a soft click stop += A huge blade swings out and slices into you[^r] stop += sense of stasis stop += flesh start stop += (starving|devoid of blood) stop += wrath finds you stop += lose consciousness # Expiring effects -- Stop autotravel for spells beginning to expire (to allow recasts) # Haste stop += You feel yourself slow down # Flight stop += You are starting to lose your buoyancy stop += You lose control over your flight # Necromutation stop += Your transformation is almost over stop += You have a feeling this form stop += You feel yourself come back to life # Control Teleport stop += uncertain # Deaths Door stop += time is quickly running out stop += life is in your own # Enslavement stop += is no longer charmed # Shroud stop += shroud begins to fray stop += shroud unravels # Swiftness stop += start to feel a little slower # Repel/Deflect stop += missiles spell is about to expire # Ghouls : if you.race() == "Ghoul" then stop += smell.*(rott(ing|en)|decay) stop += something tasty in your inventory : end # Good things - Bad things wearing off stop += Your magical contamination has completely faded away stop += You are no longer firmly anchored in space #ignore += pray: #ignore += friend_spell: #ignore += friend_enchant: #ignore += friend_action: #ignore += sound: ################# # Force Prompts # ################# force_more_message += Something interferes with your magic force_more_message += shining eye come force_more_message += shining eyes come force_more_message += giant spore come force_more_message += giant spores come force_more_message += giant spore is too close force_more_message += filled with an inner flame force_more_message += pager goes off force_more_message += Found a glowing drain force_more_message += Found a sand-covered staircase force_more_message += Found a flagged portal force_more_message += Found a crumbling entrance force_more_message += Found a flickering gateway force_more_message += Found a gateway to a bazaar force_more_message += Found a magical portal force_more_message += Found a frozen archway force_more_message += Found a dark tunnel force_more_message += Found a gateway leading out of the Abyss force_more_message += Found an abyssal rune force_more_message += zaps a wand # Set Alias more := force_more_message # Important dungeon features more += interdimensional caravan more += distant snort more += Found a gateway leading out of the Abyss more += wave of frost more += roar of battle more += There is an entrance to a bailey on this level more += oppresive heat more += tolling of a bell more += sound of rushing water more += Found a frozen archway : if you.god() == "Ashenzari" then more += You have a vision of.*gates? : end more += Done waiting more += (The|Your).*falls away! more += acid corrodes more += catch(es)? fire more += freezes? and shatters? more += can cast Torment more += MASSIVE DAMAGE # Translocations more += You.*teleport [^f] more += You blink more += Your surroundings suddenly seem different more += You feel strangely stable # Wands/Potions/evokes used by monsters more += zaps a (wand|rod) more += drinks a potion more += evokes.*(amulet|ring) # Abyssal Rune more += Found .* abyssal rune of Zot # Dangerous Monsters more += Giant eyeball.*comes? into view more += Lich.*comes? into view more += The blast of calcifying dust hits you more += You are engulfed in calcifying dust more += begins to recite a word of recall more += You are engulfed in dark miasma more += swoops through the air toward you more += orange crystal statue.*comes? into view more += The ghost moth stares at you more += You feel you are being watched by something more += Its appearance distorts for a moment # Interrupts for unexpected situations more += The.*shudders more += You feel a genetic drift more += You don't.* that spell more += You fail to use your ability more += You miscast more += You cannot teleport right now more += appears in a shower of sparks more += It doesn't seem very happy more += Some monsters swap places more += This wand has no charges more += You are held in a net more += You have disarmed more += You can't gag anything down more += You don't have any such object more += do not work when you're silenced more += You cannot cast spells when silenced more += The barbed spikes dig painfully into your body as you move more += The water nymph flows with the water more += You can't unwield more += You don't have enough magic more += You haven't enough magic at the moment more += You feel your control is inadequate more += You feel strangely unstable more += Your guardian golem overheats more += You have finished your manual more += You can't take your gloves off to put on a ring more += You feel your power leaking away more += You feel your power drain away more += Space warps horribly around you more += Your damage is reflected back at you more += dark mirror aura disappears more += Space bends around you more += The.*grabs you[^r] more += Your attempt to break free more += The.*is a mimic more += The.*offers itself to Yredelemnul more += You are blown backwards! more += Agitated ravens fly out from beneath the more += goes berserk more += are blown away by the wind more += Your magical defenses are stripped away more += appears out of thin air more += You feel less protected from missiles more += Your body is wracked with pain more += surroundings become eerily quiet more += The pull of.*song draws you forwards more += comes (up|down) the stairs more += The jumping spider pounces on you [^but] more += Wisps of shadow swirl around more += begins to accept its allies' injuries more += doors? slams? shut more += The vault warden activates a sealing rune more += Miasma billows from the more += You feel.*firmly anchored in space more += You stumble into the trap more += You have no appropriate body parts free more += drinks a potion more += You stop (a|de)scending the stairs more += The walls disappear more += too hungry more += The spell fizzles more += Your body armour is too heavy more += stands defiantly in death's doorway more += is no longer invulnerable more += This potion can/'t work under stasis more += splits in two more += Kikubaaqudgha will now enhance your necromancy more += The Shining One will now bless more += You cannot cast spells while unable to breathe more += Your fit of retching subsides more += You are wearing\: more += The walls and floor vibrate strangely for a moment more += You feel your flesh start to rot away more += Mara shimmers and seems to become three more += You sense the presence of something unfriendly # Interrupts for Bad things more += Your surroundings flicker more += You feel yourself grow more vulnerable to poison more += You feel less vulnerable to poison more += The poison in your body grows stronger more += burn any scroll you tried to read more += Your icy (shield|armour) evaporates more += Your.*(shield|armour) melts away more += sense of stasis more += Your amulet of stasis more += You smell decay. (^Yuck!) more += The writing blurs in front of your eyes more += You fall through a shaft more += A huge blade swings out and slices into you more += your magic stops regenerating more += (blundered into a|invokes the power of) Zot more += Ouch! That really hurt! more += dispelling energy hits you more += You convulse more += You feel drained more += You are (blasted|electrocuted) more += You feel uncertain more += (You are|You're) poisoned more += (You are|You're) more poisoned more += (You are|You're) lethally poisoned more += (You are|You're) confused more += (You are|You're) more confused more += (You are|You're) too confused more += (starving|devoid of blood) more += You need to eat something NOW more += You are engulfed in mutagenic fog more += wrath finds you more += lose consciousness more += You are too injured to fight blindly more += Green shoots are pushing up through the earth more += your.*devoured more += You are drained more += shoots a curare more += You feel your attacks grow feeble more += You are blown backwards by the freezing wind more += You are knocked back by the lance of force more += You are knocked back by the blast of cold more += You are knocked back by the great wave of water more += You stumble backwards more += You are trampled more += Okawaru sends forces against you more += You are slowing down. more += You flicker for a moment. more += You flicker back more += The.*is unaffected more += You (become entangled|are caught) in (a|the) (web|net) more += The arrow of dispersal hits you[^r] more += The forest starts to sway and rumble more += Vines fly forth from the trees! more += A tree reaches out and hits you! more += You are hit by a branch more += The.*answers the.*call more += The air twists around and violently strikes you in flight more += The.*engulfs you in water more += The power of Zot is invoked against you more += The acid corrodes your more += You feel (dopey|clumsy|weak) more += The air around.*erupts in flames more += Terrible wounds (open|spread) more += You are encased in ice more += Your.*suddenly stops moving more += You suddenly stop moving more += Your surroundings seem slightly different more += Your resistance to elements expires more += You feel a (horrible|terrible) chill more += You are burned terribly more += You are mesmerised more += The barbed spikes become lodged in your body more += A sentinel's mark forms upon you more += The silver sears you more += [^Your].*seems to speed up more += steals.*your more += infuriates you more += [^Your].*reflects more += You cannot afford.*fee more += You can move again more += You slip out of the net more += You.*and break free more += You feel your flesh rotting away more += You feel your translocation being delayed more += There is a sealed passage more += Something appears in a flash of light more += You feel your rage building more += You turn into a fleshy mushroom # Interrupts for Hell effects more += You will not leave this place more += Die\, mortal more += We do not forgive those who trespass against us more += Trespassers are not welcome here more += You do not belong in this place more += Leave now\, before it is too late more += We have you now more += You smell brimstone more += Brimstone rains from above more += You feel lost and a long\, long way from home more += You shiver with fear more += You feel a terrible foreboding more += Something frightening happens more += You sense an ancient evil watching you more += You suddenly feel all small and vulnerable more += You sense a hostile presence more += A gut-wrenching scream fills the air more += You hear words spoken in a strange and terrible language more += You hear diabolical laughter # Interrupts for Expiring spell effects more += You feel yourself slow down more += You are starting to lose your buoyancy more += Your hearing returns more += Your transformation is almost over more += Your skin feels tender more += You have a feeling this form more += You feel yourself come back to life more += time is quickly running out more += life is in your own more += is no longer charmed more += shroud falls apart more += Your extra speed is starting to run out more += Your skin stops crawling more += You are firmly grounded in the material plane once more # Uniques more += 27-headed.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Agnes.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Aizul.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Antaeus.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Arachne.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Asmodeus.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Asterion.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Azrael.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Blork the orc.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Boris.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Cerebov.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Crazy Yiuf.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Dispater.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Dissolution.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Donald.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Dowan.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Duvessa.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Edmund.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Ereshkigal.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Erica.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Erolcha.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Eustachio.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Fannar.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Frances.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Francis.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Frederick.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Gastronok.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Geryon.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Gloorx Vloq.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Grinder.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Grum.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Harold.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Ignacio.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Ijyb.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Ilsuiw.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Jessica.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Jory.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Joseph.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Josephine.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Jozef.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Khufu.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Kirke.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Lamia.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Lom Lobon.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Louise.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Mara.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Margery.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Maud.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Maurice.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Menkaure.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Mennas.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Mnoleg.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Murray.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Natasha.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Nergalle.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Nessos.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Nikola.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Norris.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Pikel.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Polyphemus.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Prince Ribbit.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Psyche.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Purgy.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Roxanne.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Rupert.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Saint Roka.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Sigmund.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Snorg.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Sojobo.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Sonja.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Terence.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += The Lernaean hydra.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += The royal jelly.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += The Serpent of Hell.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Tiamat.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Urug.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Vashnia.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Wiglaf.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += Xtahua.*(comes? into view|opens the) more += 's ghost.*(comes? into view|opens the) # Others more += You have reached level more += Your scales start more += You can now more += Your? can no longer more += The rod doesn't have enough magic points more += You feel monstrous more += Jiyva alters your body : if you.god() == "Xom" then more += god: : end

Quick FR: Make failing to cast a spell not cost a turn

Quick FR: Make failing to cast a spell not cost a turn

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Re: Quick FR: Make failing to cast a spell not cost a turn

Re: Quick FR: Make failing to cast a spell not cost a turn

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