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Ogres (and Trolls) Poll
I think Trolls but especially Ogres should have more advantages due to their size. Those are the opposite of the disadvantages of smaller than average species, to counter their crappy Dex and dodging apt as well as the size penalty to EV and lack of options for early body armor.
To me this basically means they should not only be able to use shields at a lower skill with no penalty -as is the case at the moment- but also be able to wield all two handed weapons except for GC and GSC with a Shield. That would bring more variety to weapon choices, at least for Ogres. Ogres should be adjusted to have M&F +2, Axes 0, Long Blades -1, Polearms +1, imo. Makes much more sense. I don't have an opinion on the spell schools but feel free to tell me what yours is.
Trolls have that godly UC and I don't think there's much hope for them to get into weapons, tbh. They could get some sort of buff to their survival ability which peters out late game like ignore body armor encumbrance so that they receive no penalty to attack delay when using UC with the heaviest armors. After all it's not the Troll early game which is suffering currently, but the Ogre one.
Yes, they both have access to Large Rocks (and Sandblast). That doesn't mean that they magically stop being glass cannons. Despite their ridiculous HP levels. I know Ogres are playable at their current state, but I think many will agree that they feel like a total shot in the dark in terms of surviving the early and mid game, so being able to use a shield with a big damage weapon and not get shoehorned into M&F all the time due to not having any other decent choice seems like the way to go for me.