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Here's where you can make suggestions for new forums & categories, voice your opinion about the forum, etc.
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njvack wrote:If you're looking for a general "mods suck" thread, the "Suggestions & Criticism" forum is probably a better place. If you're talking about the @#!% "twelve is minmay" thing, I'm sorry and I agree with you.
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Marbit wrote:twelve, if some admin recently did something to you, pm another admin. The other users cannot do anything for you. If the other admins disagree or ignore you, either they have a real point that you are not seeing or there is a conspiracy against you. In either case you are screwed and complaining openly serves no purpose but to annoy other users.
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njvack wrote: When you seemed to be really actually bothered, I PM'ed Grimm and he told me he'd cut it out. When he didn't, I PM'd him again and he reiterated that; AFAIK he hasn't done it again.
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Grimm wrote:And twelwe, please note that njvack acted in good faith and without any formal complaint procedure on your part, just a barrage of insults.
Grimm wrote:You are now asking for policies and procedures but you have shown that you do not follow policies and procedures.
nvjack wrote: Those are people you can talk to if you think I'm being out of line, as well.
nvjack wrote:My sense is that you feel like this past issue is not resolved. Is that correct?
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WalkerBoh wrote:Why is this a thread again? Seems like an issue between Grimm and twelwe to be honest. Unless you take "Suggestions and Criticisms" to mean any suggestion or criticism, I don't see why this isn't locked and solved privately in PM's. Just saying...
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Marbit wrote:The other users cannot do anything for you.
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XuaXua wrote:The Good tips of duvessa
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galehar wrote:I think it's important that moderators do not moderate themselves the discussions they are taking part in. It's better to ask for other moderators to step in and take appropriate action. Mods can use the report button too.
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pratamawirya wrote:XuaXua wrote:The Good tips of duvessa
FTFY. ('cause, you know, he's been very nice lately )
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galehar wrote:I don't know the details of the story, since I rarely read Yiuf and this thread doesn't actually explain the problem. Anyway, I understand that Grimm has been out of line, and he has since apologized. Maybe a similar behaviour from a non-mod would warrant a temporary ban, I don't know, I haven't seen the details. The fact is that Grimm is a moderator and an admin of this board. You have to understand that being a moderator is something that people have volunteered for and is a task that they do in their free time. This isn't some kind of privileges.
As njvack explained, we don't have any formal procedure to handle this, so let's improvise. On one hand, Grimm has been contributing to the forum for years by moderating, writing rules and general admin tasks. I think that earned him some credit. On the other hand, being a moderator also comes with some responsibility about displayed behaviour and discretion about using moderator's power. I know, I have faced the problem before. We're not just moderators, we are also active members and take part in discussions.
So I say we consider this as a formal warning to Grimm and take no further action for now. Also, I think it's important that moderators do not moderate themselves the discussions they are taking part in. It's better to ask for other moderators to step in and take appropriate action. Mods can use the report button too.
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Grimm wrote:That's because you never asked me for an apology. All you did was viciously insult me, from day one. If anyone should apologize, it's you.
Grimm wrote:And twelwe, please note that njvack acted in good faith and without any formal complaint procedure on your part, just a barrage of insults.
Grimm wrote:You are now asking for policies and procedures but you have shown that you do not follow policies and procedures.
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galehar wrote:I don't know the details of the story, since I rarely read Yiuf and this thread doesn't actually explain the problem. Anyway, I understand that Grimm has been out of line, and he has since apologized.
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Anyway, I understand that Grimm has been out of line, and he has since apologized.
njvack wrote:To be fair, I think Grimm was saying you insulted him rather than me, and I'm inclined to agree that being called a creepy stalker is both an insult and mischaracterization (unless he's doing stuff like repeatedly calling your phone or emailing threatening messages or going to your house in which case call the police, not us).
dpeg wrote:galefury: Would you say the same if you were on the receiving end? Also, there is an actual problem with allowing such posts: it sets a role model for other posters who may come to think that it's perfectly alright to behave like this.
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* Do not harass or insult other users. Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
Also, be aware that what matters is what the moderators consider insulting. It doesn't matter whether offence was intended or not. Those who insult others, intentionally or not, are not welcome here.
If you feel a criticism is personal or unwarranted, use the report button or pm a moderator.
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No one has ever, ever told me I am breaking any rule, policy or procedure.
"I never violated procedures"
Also, be aware that what matters is what the moderators consider insulting. It doesn't matter whether offence was intended or not. Those who insult others, intentionally or not, are not welcome here.
And now: let there be no more dicking in the forum. Do that in a private chat if you must.
Tlwelwe, modding this forum is not a paid job. Grimm should not have harassed you. He was just being a goof. No malicious stalking or anything creepy.
Mods, thou shouldst refrain from poking members of the flock. It distresses them and toughens the meat, much to my displeasure when I finally consume them.
And Users, in this case twelwe: if thou admitest to posting like a dick and insist on the right to continue posting in such a manner, thou shouldst not be surprised if thou art mistaken for minmay, or if others take pleasure in dicking you in return.
And now: let there be no more dicking in the forum. Do that in a private chat if you must.
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And now: let there be no more dicking in the forum. Do that in a private chat if you must.
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As you admit above, you have called me names on numerous occasions, including your very first direct response to my humorous joak, and have in this thread refused to stop doing so.
You have also gratuitously insulted other users who participated in the joke , for example here: viewtopic.php?p=112563#p112563 Note too that in that thread danr came in and said it was over, and I accepted his statement (via thanking it and pm). Your response on the other hand was to unleash a jeremiad.
Also, be aware that what matters is what the moderators consider insulting. It doesn't matter whether offence was intended or not. Those who insult others, intentionally or not, are not welcome here.
The sticky post tells you that you are breaking the policy. You read it before posting, didn't you?
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duvessa wrote:I am convinced that Grimm and Confidence Interval are the same person.
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Grimm wrote:mumra is absolutely correct. twelwe is a special individual and had the nous that the rest of you bandwagon-hopping johnnies-come-lately lack to ask for a special colour to mark his (its?) specialness out.
He (they?) also made me laugh with the line "lol, but back to my ideas." What have the rest of you done lately, or ever?
No more colours.
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