That being said, I DO think he had a point somewhere in all the anger about it being a bit much prompting you for every weapon. That's a standard use for the spell,
Not just a standard use. The defining use, in some respects.
The part of the game where Sticks to Snakes is most useful is when the player is XL2, and not yet able to memorise Spider Form. During this period, the player does not yet have the mana reserves to create significant numbers of snakes (the
only advantage of snaking arrows). Similarly, his spellpower is very low, meaning that he will most likely only create the weakest snake possible, meaning arrows will produce ball pythons and weapons will produce adders. At this stage of the game (the most important stage as far as Sticks to Snakes is concerned) you should
always cast Sticks to Snakes with weapons, unless you have no other choice but to use ammunition.
Why do you always have to be so aggressive?
How would you feel if someone made a thread suggesting that the game ask for confirmation every time Conjure Flame is cast? After all, maybe they accidentally pressed the wrong key, and now Mennas is going to kill them, all because the spell-casting interface didn't prevent the player from making that mistake. And how would you feel if one of the devs actually went and implemented it, despite arguments to the contrary? Because that is exactly how I felt. Apart from the practical annoyance, there is the basic principle that such an idea should not even be considered an option by the devteam.
If we are concerned with losing GSC to S2S, it could be useful to check character species.
No it couldn't. Snaking giant clubs guarantees a water moccasin at minimum, which means that any race capable of doing so wants to do so as often as possible. Furthermore the overwhelming likelihood is that you only want ONE giant spiked club and the rest are floor trash whether you have s2s or not.
Whining was the only reason this thread was created in the first place, in case you people forgot.
it is in the interest of EVERYONE that the dev team WANTS to read GDD, and unproductive ad homs threaten that.
No it's not. This thread DIRECTLY RESULTED in Transmuter becoming practically unplayable for me, until I looked through the options guide to figure out how to make my basic cast-this-on-everything spell work again, and then the game was still ugly for me to look at for the rest of the day. From my perspective, this thread has done nothing but harm.
Similarly the best things to happen in recent crawl, like the new conjurer book, happened entirely without (or in gargoyle's case,
despite) tavern's "help". The sad part is that tavern's quality standards are so low that my first reaction to the thread title (without even reading the thread) was to say on ##crawl "oh no s2s is about to get ruined
". And I was right.
and into wrote:Don't sweat it, I'm sure your level-headed arguments and irresistible charm will convince the developers to revert this change you didn't like.
A lot of the energy people are wasting on being angry would be better spent frankly (but rationally) discussing any problems you have with the devs.
My level-headed arguments were completely ignored in favour of a knee-jerk implementation of the
worst possible solution to the perceived problem (despite the devs' insistence that they "don't just throw things in without thinking about them"). On the other hand exploding and getting myself banned actually provided results. So please forgive me if I disagree with your theory of how discussions on tavern usually go.
In general people need to LIGHTEN UP about changes to Trunk. It is *experimental*.
It would be much easier to do that if it weren't for the fact that Stable looks just as unfinished and experimental as Trunk.
Tuesday, 17th September 2013, 16:19 
