YASD VpEn

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 12:43 by jejorda2

I think this is the farthest I've gotten with a stabber before. I've done Lair and Orc (for the gold to buy some a manual of stealth and more in shops) I'm not sure what to do when I'm detected by something that resists enchantment and sees invisible. I guess I need to train up some kind of conjuration or summoning. I could go with ice for bolt of cold and metabolic englatiation, or earth for deconstruction, petrification, and liquifaction. Those spells are all in books I have found.

There is a book of Summonings on the floor and books of Beasts and The Dragon in shops if I go that way.

I could train Necromancy for Agony and Silmacrum, but I haven't found Dispel Undead or any of the Necromancy books apart from the Necronomicon.

Weapon wise, I have 2 II scrolls I could use on my +3 vorpal dagger, or I could use a +4 chaos dagger, +2 speed dagger, or +3 venom dagger. I could also fashion a freezing dagger with a scroll and a spell I memorized before read-IDing vorpalize.

There is a +2 robe of resistance on the floor, but with my rF rC ring, I think I'm better off with the steam dragon armour, especially if I can ever enchant it.

There is a manual of armour on the floor.

Nergalle is on D14, so I guess I need to spend some time in Swamp or Spider before diving deeper in D. Maybe she will fall asleep.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2484-gc765b08 (console) character file. jejorda2 the Imperceptible (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 40369, Time: 03:21:51 HP 106/106 AC 14 Str 6 XL: 15 Next: 36% MP 31/31 EV 20 Int 23 God: Ashenzari [******] Gold 560 SH 15 Dex 16 Spells: 10 memorised, 1 level left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + a - +4,+3 dagger (stab) (curse) {=f} Res.Cold : + + + Warding : . c - +0 steam dragon armour (curse) Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : + y - +3 dwarf buckler (curse) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : + J - +2 wizard hat {Int+3} (curse) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : + K - +2 cloak {rCorr, Cons} Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . i - +2 pair of orc gauntlets (curse) Res.Mut. : + Stasis : . I - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : + Flight : . k - amulet of resist mutation Saprovore : . . . A - cursed ring "Qomit" {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} H - cursed ring of protection from magic @: non-regenerating, very slightly contaminated, very resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing, Str -1 a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Ashenzari. Ashenzari is exalted by your worship. You are bloodless. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 27 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 3115 gold pieces. You have spent 2575 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a cursed +4,+3 dagger of stabbing (weapon) {=f} Missiles d - 11 darts x - 5 javelins (quivered) Armour c - a cursed +0 steam dragon armour (worn) i - a cursed +2 pair of orcish gauntlets (worn) m - a +2 robe of resistance y - a cursed +3 dwarven buckler (worn) I - a +0 pair of boots (worn) J - a cursed +2 wizard hat of intelligence (worn) K - a +2 cloak of preservation (worn) Magical devices j - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} l - a wand of fireball {zapped: 1} n - a wand of lightning (4) q - a wand of confusion {zapped: 4} u - a wand of fireball (2) v - a wand of polymorph (23) C - a wand of draining (4) F - a wand of invisibility {zapped: 1} Scrolls b - a scroll of magic mapping h - a scroll of remove curse t - 5 scrolls of fear z - a scroll of blinking D - 3 scrolls of identify E - a scroll of fog G - 6 scrolls of teleportation Jewellery k - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck) A - the cursed ring "Qomit" (right hand) {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon) [ring of protection from fire] It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4). It protects you from cold. It has a curse placed upon it. H - a cursed ring of protection from magic (left hand) Potions e - 7 potions of blood f - 2 potions of brilliance g - 2 potions of curing r - a potion of flight s - 3 potions of heal wounds w - a potion of agility B - 2 potions of might Books p - a book of Wizardry Spells Type Level Summon Elemental Summoning 4 Agony Necromancy 5 Force Lance Conjuration 5 Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 *Haste Charms 6 *Invisibility Hexes 6 Skills: - Level 8.6 Fighting - Level 8.8(13.2) Short Blades - Level 0.7 Throwing - Level 8.2(11.2) Dodging - Level 23.5(25.6) Stealth - Level 3.7(6.5) Shields - Level 9.0 Spellcasting - Level 19.1(21.4) Hexes + Level 7.3(10.4) Charms - Level 3.1(5.7) Transmutations - Level 2.3(4.7) Earth Magic You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Ensorcelled Hibernat Hex/Ice ###### 1% 2 None b - Confuse Hex #######. 0% 3 None c - Invisibility Hex #######. 1% 6 ######. d - Freezing Aura Chrm/Ice ####...... 1% 2 None e - Haste Chrm ######.. 14% 6 ######. p - Passwall Trmt/Erth ####...... 2% 3 None A - Stoneskin Trmt/Erth ####...... 1% 2 None F - Flight Chrm/Air ####...... 2% 3 None M - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ####...... 1% 2 None S - Swiftness Chrm/Air ####...... 1% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (14/27) Temple (1/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (0/5) Lair:4 Spider (0/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:6: =/+? D:14: + Orc:1: * Orc:4: *=([ Annotations D:14 Nergalle Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You do not heal naturally. You can bottle blood from corpses. You have razor-sharp teeth.* You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You can survive without breathing.* You are weak (Str -1). Message History a rotting jackal corpse The helpless worker ant fails to defend itself. You stick the worker ant like a pincushion!!!!! You kill the worker ant! The helpless worker ant fails to defend itself. You perforate the worker ant like a sieve!!!!! You kill the worker ant! You now have 535 gold pieces (gained 16). You flicker back into view. You see here a rotting worker ant corpse. Items here: % ( a rotting worker ant corpse; 10 arrows Magic restored. You now have 560 gold pieces (gained 25). Done exploring. Done exploring. You open the gate. There is an open gate here. 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Vanquished Creatures Donald (Orc:3) The ghost of Nudhul the Severer, a powerful MiBe of Trog (Orc:4) An orc warlord (Orc:4) Gastronok (D:11) 3 hydras Fannar (Lair:4) The ghost of Vorless the Cleaver, a powerful LOFi of Okawaru (D:11) Harold (Orc:4) Josephine (D:13) The ghost of Ellick the Prestidigitator, a powerful KoHe of Elyvilon (Orc:4) A deep troll shaman (Lair:8) 2 orc high priests 23 death yaks Urug (D:13) A catoblepas (Lair:8) Erolcha (Orc:4) An ice devil (Orc:3) A lindwurm (Lair:8) 5 hill giants 4 oklob plants 4 orc sorcerers (Orc:4) 4 orc knights (Orc:4) 2 griffons A sphinx skeleton (Volcano) A black mamba (Lair:4) Maurice (D:13) 8 elephants 6 spiny frogs 2 queen ants Psyche (Orc:2) A feature mimic (D:11) 3 trolls A guardian mummy (Volcano) 2 fire drakes (Lair:6) A hydra zombie (D:13) 10 komodo dragons 3 two-headed ogres Prince Ribbit (D:8) A raven (Lair:6) A hydra skeleton (D:13) A minotaur skeleton (Volcano) 9 slime creatures 2 flying skulls (Volcano) 10 blink frogs 3 trapdoor spiders (Lair:4) A trapdoor spider (shapeshifter) (D:13) 5 vampires (Volcano) A hill giant zombie (D:13) An elephant slug (Lair:4) 2 hungry ghosts 3 wyverns 6 ugly things (D:13) Eustachio (Orc:2) 7 hippogriffs 38 yaks A spriggan skeleton (Volcano) A steam dragon (D:11) A mottled dragon (D:12) 14 wolves A hill giant skeleton (Volcano) A manticore (D:11) A necrophage (D:9) 27 soldier ants 3 yellow wasps 11 porcupines 2 dwarves (D:9) A human (D:8) 24 orc warriors 5 black bears 4 phantoms 12 ogres 2 sky beasts 2 boring beetles 2 wargs Sigmund (D:3) Duvessa (D:5) 3 centaurs 13 crocodiles 9 giant slugs 4 giant goldfish A yaktaur zombie (D:13) The ghost of uberrath the Magician, an average DEFE (D:4) Blork the orc (Orc:4) 15 giant frogs 2 cyclops zombies An agate snail (Lair:1) A wyvern zombie (D:8) 13 water moccasins 2 cyclops skeletons 14 killer bees A hippogriff zombie (D:13) A troll skeleton (D:13) 9 wights 3 electric eels Dowan (D:5) A giant frog zombie (D:13) 12 crimson imps 5 goliath beetles 10 big fish (Lair:2) 15 hounds 31 orc wizards Crazy Yiuf (D:3) 3 centaur skeletons A giant frog skeleton (D:6) 3 iguanas 26 orc priests 7 scorpions A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:13) 12 sheep 58 worker ants 6 jellies An ogre zombie (D:6) A hound zombie (D:10) A mottled dragon skeleton (D:13) 2 big kobold skeletons A mummy (D:14) 2 naga skeletons (Volcano) 52 green rats 22 adders 5 giant centipedes An inept feature mimic (D:7) 2 giant mites 6 worms An iguana zombie (D:7) A giant eyeball (D:12) 11 giant geckos 149 orcs 5 ball pythons 28 bats 5 giant cockroaches 19 goblins 25 hobgoblins 38 jackals 18 kobolds 10 quokkas 6 giant newts 2 hobgoblin skeletons (D:8) A quokka zombie (D:5) 30 rats A rat zombie (D:8) A spectral orc (D:14) A ballistomycete (D:8) 3 fungi (Lair:8) A plant (D:12) 1052 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A troll skeleton (Volcano) 3 orcs A giant spore (D:8) 11 fungi 5 plants (Lair:8) 21 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1073 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | jejorda2, the Vampire Enchanter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 4/4 202 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/19 MP: 2/5 216 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 627 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1146 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1146 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1147 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1148 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1270 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 6/6 1732 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 30/30 MP: 9/9 1737 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 1935 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 2853 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 2859 | D:3 | Killed Sigmund 2859 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Hexes 2859 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 3/10 3282 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 3283 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 3486 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 3492 | D:3 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 3586 | D:4 | Noticed uberrath's ghost (average DEFE) 3599 | D:4 | Killed uberrath's ghost 3599 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Hexes 3599 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 9/12 3664 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Hexes 3982 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 3994 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4306 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/46 MP: 10/13 4715 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4814 | D:5 | Identified the Reference Book on Destructive Self-Knowledge (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 5007 | D:5 | Noticed Dowan 5268 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 5862 | D:5 | Noticed Duvessa 5870 | D:5 | Killed Duvessa 5886 | D:5 | Killed Dowan 6148 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 6546 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 6551 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 6629 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled 6665 | D:6 | Found Dyetalo's Jewellery Emporium. 6676 | D:6 | Bought an uncursed amulet of inaccuracy for 22 gold pieces 6694 | D:6 | Found Souwudou's Magical Wand Emporium. 7049 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 7049 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/52 MP: 15/15 7204 | D:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Hexes 7227 | D:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Invisibility 7390 | D:6 | Found Ykiffez's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 7397 | D:6 | Found Keupucua's Book Emporium. 7520 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 8017 | D:7 | Reached skill level 12 in Hexes 8195 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 8204 | D:7 | the staircase to the Ecumenical Temple was a mimic. 8375 | D:7 | Reached skill level 13 in Hexes 8550 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Hexes 8866 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/57 MP: 11/16 9767 | D:8 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 9771 | D:8 | Killed Prince Ribbit 9771 | D:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Hexes 10328 | D:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Hexes 12136 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 63/63 MP: 14/18 12269 | D:9 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 12286 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12360 | D:8 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 12363 | D:8 | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin 12901 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations 12901 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 13094 | D:9 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 13326 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 13489 | Orc:1 | Found Pnuckaott's Assorted Antiques. 14268 | Orc:1 | Bought a glowing dwarven buckler for 93 gold pieces 14352 | D:6 | Bought the ring "Qomit" {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} for 521 gold pieces 14509 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14729 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 14864 | D:10 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 15502 | D:10 | Acquired Ashenzari's first power 15622 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 15629 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 15629 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 9/22 15713 | Orc:2 | Noticed Psyche 15714 | Orc:2 | Killed Psyche 16178 | Orc:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 16223 | Orc:3 | Identified the +2 animal skin of Offu {+Blink Curse} (You found it on level 3 of the Orcish Mines) 16548 | Orc:2 | Noticed Eustachio 16551 | Orc:2 | Killed Eustachio 16718 | D:6 | Bought an uncursed ring of protection from magic for 275 gold pieces 16864 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 26 gold pieces 17003 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 17008 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 17244 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 17245 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 17253 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 17264 | D:11 | Noticed Vorless' ghost (powerful LOFi) 17272 | D:11 | Killed Vorless' ghost 17505 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 18338 | D:12 | Identified the ring of Kasus {Hunger- Dex+1 Int+3 Acc+6} 18551 | D:12 | Acquired Ashenzari's second power 18639 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 18931 | D:12 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 19186 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 19250 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Freezing Aura 19460 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 19891 | Lair:1 | Acquired Ashenzari's third power 19903 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 74/74 MP: 12/23 20807 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 22007 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 22157 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Hexes 22415 | Lair:3 | Acquired Ashenzari's fourth power 22705 | Lair:4 | Noticed Fannar 22709 | Lair:4 | Killed Fannar 22849 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 22849 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 22851 | Lair:4 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 22851 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 22874 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 87/87 MP: 14/24 24843 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 24892 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1). [mutagenic glow] 25346 | Lair:4 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2477-geaae114 to 0.13-a0-2484-gc765b08 26763 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 18 in Hexes 27878 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 28281 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 28305 | Lair:7 | Found a dark tunnel. 28315 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 29207 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight 30116 | Lair:7 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 100/100 MP: 22/29 30569 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 31174 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 26 gold pieces 31991 | D:6 | Bought a manual of Stealth for 1214 gold pieces 32360 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness 32383 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32748 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 33228 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 33586 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 33845 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 34083 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 34084 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 34553 | D:13 | Noticed Maurice 34563 | D:13 | Killed Maurice 34563 | D:13 | Identified a cloak of preservation (You took it off Maurice on level 13 of the Dungeon) 35066 | D:13 | Noticed a hill giant 35071 | D:13 | Killed a hill giant 35379 | D:13 | Noticed Urug 35388 | D:13 | Killed Urug 35388 | D:13 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 35395 | D:13 | Noticed Josephine 35412 | D:13 | Killed Josephine 35942 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 35999 | D:14 | Found Khepnagh's Book Shop. 36060 | D:14 | Noticed Nergalle 36358 | D:6 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 330 gold pieces 36517 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 36532 | Orc:4 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 106/106 MP: 26/30 36562 | Orc:4 | Noticed Ellick's ghost (powerful KoHe) 36568 | Orc:4 | Killed Ellick's ghost 36801 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 37060 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 37436 | Orc:3 | Noticed Donald 37449 | Orc:3 | Killed Donald 37948 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 37948 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc warlord 37985 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc warlord 37989 | Orc:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 37992 | Orc:4 | Found Ypraobli's Jewellery Boutique. 38173 | Orc:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 38740 | Orc:4 | Killed Blork the orc 39125 | Orc:4 | Found Alur's Antique Armour Boutique. 39136 | Orc:4 | Found Psaludi's General Store. 39282 | Orc:4 | Found Fifis' Antique Weapon Boutique. 39300 | Orc:4 | Noticed Erolcha 39310 | Orc:4 | Noticed Nudhul's ghost (powerful MiBe) 39312 | Orc:4 | Killed Erolcha 39318 | Orc:4 | Killed Nudhul's ghost 39358 | Orc:4 | Noticed Harold 39370 | Orc:4 | Killed Harold 39491 | Orc:4 | Bought a pair of boots for 42 gold pieces Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 90 | 89 | 370 | 650 | 811 || 2010 Throw: Dart | 4 | | | | || 4 Javelin | | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 || 7 Cast: Corona | 11 | 1 | | | || 12 Ensorcelled Hiber | 17 | 45 | 142 | 94 | 89 || 387 Confuse | | 3 | 19 | 10 | 53 || 85 Invisibility | | | 8 | 42 | 54 || 104 Passwall | | | | 14 | 11 || 25 Flight | | | | | 1 || 1 Invok: Scrying | | | | | 1 || 1 Abil: Bottle Blood | | 2 | 33 | 36 | 51 || 122 End Transformatio | | | 2 | | 2 || 4 Bat Form | | | 2 | | 2 || 4 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 || 8 Use: Potion | 1 | | 10 | 14 | 33 || 58 Scroll | | 15 | 11 | 12 | 12 || 50 Stab: Sleeping | 25 | 45 | 109 | 255 | 267 || 701 Confused | | 1 | 12 | 3 | 25 || 41 Distracted | | | 2 | 1 | 1 || 4 Invisible | | | 20 | 78 | 109 || 207 Paralysed | | | | 1 | || 1

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 14:14 by hxy

There are many possibilities. You can train up magic schools as you mentioned, or you can pick up a large weapon and train up on that, depending on what you have found so far in the game.
Short Blades are generally not good later in the game as it takes forever to kill high-AC monsters.
With Ash you cannot easily swap weapons if you cuse it so that's one thing to consider.

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 14:25 by mopl

With Enchanters, you always come to a point where you must chose : kill or ninja...
Yes, you can leave monsters alive in the dungeon !

Having just won a VpEn with 12 runes, I chose to ninja and went for full stealth, haste, apportation.

IIRC Vp have a -3 in Conjuration, so I wouldn't go that way

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 14:29 by Sandman25

Well, my SpEn used Iron Shot with Ash despite having -3 Conj too.

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 14:39 by One-Eyed Jack

You can cast strong conjurations with mediocre conjurations skill and wizardry

By "strong conjurations" I mean ice storm btw

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 16:43 by Siegurt

I'd recommend picking up Dazzling Spray if you can.

It's an excellent low level spell for an enchanter, it's hex/conjuration based, so you can immediately cast it well with your hexes, and creatures that are immune to enchantments can still be dazzled, it hits multiple things at a time, and does damage, and being a relatively low level spell it doesn't make a ton of noise. Also lets you train Conjurations should you want to go that route.

Doesn't work on everything (notably not jellies), and the chance and duration of the dazzling is random so you may have to use it a few times, but is an excellent tool to have in your toolbox.

Also Petrify stabs are pretty good, you can stab stuff both *while* they're petrifying and once they are petrified, each stab will do less damage than an invis/sleep/paralyze stab, but you can get lots of them in and kill just about anything you can petrify. (You've already got some earth spells so this dovetails somewhat with what you're using now)

Which dagger to use is largely personal choice, I'd avoid the chaos dagger though, too many possible negative effects for not much gain (If you're stabbing, the brand really doesn't make much difference dead or dead+25% is still dead) Ideally you'd have a vampiric dagger or possibly an electricity dagger for melee-ing. In the mean time just grab whatever does more damage.

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 17:03 by jejorda2

Siegurt wrote:I'd recommend picking up Dazzling Spray if you can.

That is a capital idea that I hadn't considered.

After memorizing Stoneskin only to be reminded that it doesn't work when bloodless, I avoided memorizing Simulacrum while wielding a cursed dagger.

I think my stealth is high enough that I don't need to develop this character much further as a ninja; I'll go with Ice conjurations over summoning for when ninjutsu fails.

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 19:24 by mikee

My guess without looking at the contents of this thread was that you didn't have enough dodging or fighting. This seems to be the case. I don't know why so many people don't like these skills - too boring maybe.

Saturday, 20th July 2013, 20:27 by jejorda2

I used my first scroll of acquirement to get enough gold to buy the Amulet of Four Winds for MR plus a Book of Frost for Throw Icicle. Now I have a second.

I'm leaning towards wands, hoping for a wand of healing. There are ten scrolls of recharging around the dungeon.

I could go for jewelry, but I'm not sure what would beat what I have. I could use some better boots or gloves, but scrolls of curse armor are scarce.

I could ask for a book, but I'm not ready to memorize much. I guess I'd hope for ice storm, but I'm a long way from that being usable.

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Code:: Wands wand of cold (15) wand of digging (24) wand of hasting (9) wand of heal wounds (9) Scrolls scroll of silence Jewellery amulet of clarity amulet of conservation amulet of faith amulet of guardian spirit amulet of stasis amulet of the gourmand amulet of warding ring of flight ring of hunger ring of invisibility ring of magical power ring of poison resistance ring of protection ring of regeneration ring of see invisible ring of strength ring of teleport control Potions potion of beneficial mutation potion of berserk rage potion of decay potion of experience potion of invisibility potion of porridge Magical Staves staff of air staff of cold staff of earth staff of energy staff of fire staff of power staff of summoning staff of wizardry

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2484-gc765b08 (console) character file. jejorda2 the Imperceptible (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 64851, Time: 05:52:28 HP 121/121 (127) AC 23 Str 7 (8) XL: 18 Next: 2% MP 17/36 EV 21 Int 23 God: Ashenzari [******] Gold 861 SH 16 Dex 17 Spells: 11 memorised, 5 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + a - +5 dagger (stab) (curse) {=f} Res.Cold : + + + Warding : . c - +5 steam dragon armour (curse) Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : + y - +3 dwarf buckler (curse) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : + J - +2 wizard hat {Int+3} (curse) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : + K - +2 cloak {rCorr, Cons} (curse) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . i - +2 pair of orc gauntlets Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . I - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : + Flight : . M - cursed amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ Saprovore : . . . A - cursed ring "Qomit" {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} L - cursed ring of Carodeg {MR Str+2 Dam+4} @: repel missiles, regenerating slowly, invisible, very slightly contaminated, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing, Str -1 a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion }: 1/15 runes: decaying You are on level 19 of the Dungeon. You worship Ashenzari. Ashenzari is exalted by your worship. You are near bloodless. You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 41 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 5867 gold pieces. You have spent 5026 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a cursed +5,+5 dagger of stabbing (weapon) {=f} Missiles d - 11 darts x - 2 javelins (quivered) Armour c - a cursed +5 steam dragon armour (worn) i - a +2 pair of orcish gauntlets (worn) y - a cursed +3 dwarven buckler (worn) I - a +0 pair of boots (worn) J - a cursed +2 wizard hat of intelligence (worn) K - a cursed +2 cloak of preservation (worn) Magical devices j - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} k - a wand of random effects (10) l - a wand of fireball {zapped: 1} n - a wand of fire (9) p - a wand of lightning r - a wand of disintegration (9) u - a wand of disintegration v - a wand of polymorph (23) C - a wand of draining (3) F - a wand of invisibility {zapped: 1} Scrolls b - a scroll of magic mapping t - 3 scrolls of fear z - 2 scrolls of blinking D - 4 scrolls of identify E - 3 scrolls of fog G - 4 scrolls of teleportation N - a scroll of acquirement P - a scroll of enchant weapon I Jewellery A - the cursed ring "Qomit" (right hand) {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon) [ring of protection from fire] It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4). It protects you from cold. It has a curse placed upon it. L - the cursed ring of Carodeg (left hand) {MR Str+2 Dam+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [ring of protection from magic] It affects your strength (+2). It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4). It has a curse placed upon it. M - the cursed amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {Clar rN+ MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [amulet of clarity] It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It has a curse placed upon it. Potions e - a potion of speed f - a potion of brilliance g - 4 potions of curing h - a potion of flight m - 4 potions of blood s - 5 potions of heal wounds w - 3 potions of agility B - a potion of might H - 3 potions of coagulated blood O - a potion of magic Miscellaneous o - a phial of floods q - a stone of tremors Skills: + Level 8.9 Fighting - Level 8.8(13.2) Short Blades - Level 0.7 Throwing - Level 11.6 Armour + Level 8.5(11.5) Dodging - Level 23.5(25.6) Stealth - Level 3.7(6.5) Shields - Level 12.2 Spellcasting - Level 3.7(7.8) Conjurations - Level 20.4(23.9) Hexes - Level 10.6(14.9) Charms - Level 2.2(5.6) Translocations - Level 3.1(7.0) Transmutations - Level 7.8(12.3) Ice Magic - Level 2.3(5.8) Earth Magic You have 5 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Ensorcelled Hibernat Hex/Ice ###### 0% 2 None b - Confuse Hex #######. 0% 3 None c - Invisibility Hex #######. 1% 6 #####.. d - Throw Icicle Conj/Ice ######.. 1% 4 None f - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex ######.. 1% 3 None k - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None p - Passwall Trmt/Erth #####..... 1% 3 None F - Flight Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 3 None H - Haste Chrm ######.. 1% 6 #####.. M - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None S - Swiftness Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (19/27) Temple (1/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (5/5) Lair:4 Spider (4/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults: D:15-20 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:6: =/+? D:14: + D:16: ( D:17: % Orc:1: * Orc:4: *=([ Annotations D:18 Roxanne Spider:4 Mara Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You heal slowly. You can bottle blood from corpses. You have razor-sharp teeth.* You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You can survive without breathing.* You are weak (Str -1). Message History You catch the helpless rakshasa completely off-guard! You skewer the rakshasa like a kebab!!!! You kill the rakshasa! A centaur warrior comes into view. Casting: Swiftness Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. You feel protected from missiles. You see here a scroll of acquirement. The helpless centaur warrior fails to defend itself. You bite the centaur warrior, and draw its blood! You feel slightly less thirsty. You cut the centaur warrior into ribbons!!!!! You kill the centaur warrior! Items here: ( ) a +0,+0 bow; 27 arrows N - a scroll of acquirement There is an open door here. You start to feel a little slower. P - a scroll of enchant weapon I You feel sluggish. ### #·# #·# #·# #·# #·############ #····#·······############ ###··#·#·#####·#@·········####### #······[·····>············'······ #%#······####··#··········####### #·#·#····# #··############ ░ #·#·····#####··# ░ ░ ◦ ◦ ░ ··#·#··········# ░◦ ◦ ◦◦◦ ◼ ###·#···#####·## ░ ░ ◦ ◦ ◦◦ ····#··#··# #·# ░ ░░◦◦ ◦{ ·······#··# #·# ░ ◦ There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Arachne (Spider:4) Rupert (Spider:1) Agnes (D:16) Frances (D:18) Kirke (Spider:2) A ghost moth (Spider:3) Donald (Orc:3) Wiglaf (Spider:2) Maud (D:15) The ghost of Nudhul the Severer, a powerful MiBe of Trog (Orc:4) An orc warlord (Orc:4) Gastronok (D:11) Azrael (D:18) 21 hydras Fannar (Lair:4) The ghost of Vorless the Cleaver, a powerful LOFi of Okawaru (D:11) Harold (Orc:4) Josephine (D:13) The ghost of Ellick the Prestidigitator, a powerful KoHe of Elyvilon (Orc:4) Nessos (Spider:1) A ravenous feature mimic (D:19) 3 ogre magi A deep troll shaman (Lair:8) 2 orc high priests 8 alligators A rakshasa (D:19) 23 death yaks Urug (D:13) 3 very ugly things (Spider:2) Nergalle (D:14) A catoblepas (Lair:8) Erolcha (Orc:4) A wizard (D:17) 7 skeletal warriors 11 centaur warriors A flayed ghost (D:18) 2 unseen horrors (D:18) An unseen horror (shapeshifter) (D:16) 10 swamp dragons An ice devil (Orc:3) 3 giant amoebae A lindwurm (Lair:8) 6 hill giants A wolf spider zombie (D:16) 15 wolf spiders 4 oklob plants A cyclops (D:18) 4 orc sorcerers (Orc:4) 6 orc knights 3 griffons A sphinx skeleton (Volcano) A black mamba (Lair:4) A frost giant skeleton (D:18) Maurice (D:13) 3 red wasps A stone giant skeleton (D:19) 8 elephants 14 spiny frogs An eye of devastation (D:14) 2 queen ants Psyche (Orc:2) A feature mimic (D:11) 4 demonic crawlers 7 trolls A guardian mummy (Volcano) 2 fire drakes (Lair:6) 6 yaktaurs (D:16) A hydra zombie (D:13) 10 komodo dragons A wind drake (shapeshifter) (D:17) 15 jumping spiders 6 two-headed ogres 2 giant leeches 3 orb spiders (Spider:1) Prince Ribbit (D:8) 2 ravens 2 hydra skeletons A minotaur skeleton (Volcano) 48 slime creatures 2 boulder beetles 2 baby alligators (Swamp:3) 2 bog bodies (Swamp:2) A trapdoor spider zombie (D:15) A sphinx simulacrum (D:17) 2 flying skulls (Volcano) 10 blink frogs 12 trapdoor spiders A trapdoor spider (shapeshifter) (D:13) 5 vampires (Volcano) 14 redbacks A dragon skeleton (D:15) A griffon skeleton (D:15) 3 wraiths (D:18) A shadow (D:19) A hill giant zombie (D:13) An elephant slug (Lair:4) 3 hungry ghosts 18 tarantellas 5 wyverns 2 fire elementals (D:18) 9 ugly things Eustachio (Orc:2) 7 hippogriffs 59 yaks A hog (Spider:2) A rock worm (Spider:3) A spriggan skeleton (Volcano) 47 vampire mosquitoes A steam dragon (D:11) 5 mottled dragons 14 wolves A hill giant skeleton (Volcano) A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:17) 3 manticores 53 swamp worms A necrophage (D:9) 21 swamp drakes 28 soldier ants 3 yellow wasps 11 porcupines 2 dwarves (D:9) 2 hell hounds (D:18) A human (D:8) 30 orc warriors 5 black bears 5 phantoms 25 ogres 2 sky beasts 2 boring beetles 2 wargs Sigmund (D:3) Duvessa (D:5) 10 big kobolds 27 centaurs 16 crocodiles A fire crab zombie (D:18) 10 giant slugs 12 giant goldfish A komodo dragon zombie (D:15) 2 yaktaur zombies The ghost of uberrath the Magician, an average DEFE (D:4) Blork the orc (Orc:4) 23 giant frogs 3 cyclops zombies 12 insubstantial wisps An agate snail (Lair:1) A wyvern zombie (D:8) 24 water moccasins 2 cyclops skeletons A troll zombie (D:14) 19 killer bees A hippogriff zombie (D:13) A troll skeleton (D:13) 9 wights A yak skeleton (D:15) An eye of draining (D:17) A killer bee (shapeshifter) (D:15) 5 jellyfish 12 electric eels Dowan (D:5) A giant frog zombie (D:13) 16 crimson imps 8 goliath beetles 16 spiders 22 big fish 16 hounds 32 orc wizards Crazy Yiuf (D:3) 3 centaur skeletons A giant frog skeleton (D:6) 3 iguanas 28 orc priests 10 scorpions A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:13) 12 sheep 58 worker ants 7 jellies An ogre zombie (D:6) A hound zombie (D:10) A mottled dragon skeleton (D:13) 2 big kobold skeletons A mummy (D:14) 2 naga skeletons (Volcano) 52 green rats 22 adders 5 giant centipedes An inept feature mimic (D:7) 2 giant mites 7 worms An iguana zombie (D:7) A giant eyeball (D:12) 11 giant geckos 155 orcs 5 ball pythons 28 bats 5 giant cockroaches 19 goblins 25 hobgoblins 38 jackals 68 kobolds 10 quokkas 6 giant newts 2 hobgoblin skeletons (D:8) 3 illusory rakshasas (D:19) A quokka zombie (D:5) 30 rats A rat zombie (D:8) 2 spectral orcs A ballistomycete (D:8) 3 fungi (Lair:8) A plant (D:12) 1692 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A troll skeleton (Volcano) A spider (Spider:4) 3 orcs A human (Spider:2) A giant spore (D:8) 2 kobolds (D:17) 11 fungi 5 plants (Lair:8) 25 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1717 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | jejorda2, the Vampire Enchanter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 4/4 202 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/19 MP: 2/5 216 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 627 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1146 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1146 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1147 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1148 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1270 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 6/6 1732 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 30/30 MP: 9/9 1737 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 1935 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 2853 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 2859 | D:3 | Killed Sigmund 2859 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Hexes 2859 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 3/10 3282 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 3283 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 3486 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 3492 | D:3 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 3586 | D:4 | Noticed uberrath's ghost (average DEFE) 3599 | D:4 | Killed uberrath's ghost 3599 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Hexes 3599 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 9/12 3664 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Hexes 3982 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 3994 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4306 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/46 MP: 10/13 4715 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4814 | D:5 | Identified the Reference Book on Destructive Self-Knowledge (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 5007 | D:5 | Noticed Dowan 5268 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 5862 | D:5 | Noticed Duvessa 5870 | D:5 | Killed Duvessa 5886 | D:5 | Killed Dowan 6148 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 6546 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 6551 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 6629 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled 6665 | D:6 | Found Dyetalo's Jewellery Emporium. 6676 | D:6 | Bought an uncursed amulet of inaccuracy for 22 gold pieces 6694 | D:6 | Found Souwudou's Magical Wand Emporium. 7049 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 7049 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/52 MP: 15/15 7204 | D:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Hexes 7227 | D:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Invisibility 7390 | D:6 | Found Ykiffez's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 7397 | D:6 | Found Keupucua's Book Emporium. 7520 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 8017 | D:7 | Reached skill level 12 in Hexes 8195 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 8204 | D:7 | the staircase to the Ecumenical Temple was a mimic. 8375 | D:7 | Reached skill level 13 in Hexes 8550 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Hexes 8866 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/57 MP: 11/16 9767 | D:8 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 9771 | D:8 | Killed Prince Ribbit 9771 | D:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Hexes 10328 | D:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Hexes 12136 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 63/63 MP: 14/18 12269 | D:9 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 12286 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12360 | D:8 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 12363 | D:8 | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin 12901 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations 12901 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 13094 | D:9 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 13326 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 13489 | Orc:1 | Found Pnuckaott's Assorted Antiques. 14268 | Orc:1 | Bought a glowing dwarven buckler for 93 gold pieces 14352 | D:6 | Bought the ring "Qomit" {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} for 521 gold pieces 14509 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14729 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 14864 | D:10 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 15502 | D:10 | Acquired Ashenzari's first power 15622 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 15629 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 15629 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 9/22 15713 | Orc:2 | Noticed Psyche 15714 | Orc:2 | Killed Psyche 16178 | Orc:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 16223 | Orc:3 | Identified the +2 animal skin of Offu {+Blink Curse} (You found it on level 3 of the Orcish Mines) 16548 | Orc:2 | Noticed Eustachio 16551 | Orc:2 | Killed Eustachio 16718 | D:6 | Bought an uncursed ring of protection from magic for 275 gold pieces 16864 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 26 gold pieces 17003 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 17008 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 17244 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 17245 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 17253 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 17264 | D:11 | Noticed Vorless' ghost (powerful LOFi) 17272 | D:11 | Killed Vorless' ghost 17505 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 18338 | D:12 | Identified the ring of Kasus {Hunger- Dex+1 Int+3 Acc+6} 18551 | D:12 | Acquired Ashenzari's second power 18639 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 18931 | D:12 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 19186 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 19250 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Freezing Aura 19460 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 19891 | Lair:1 | Acquired Ashenzari's third power 19903 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 74/74 MP: 12/23 20807 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 22007 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 22157 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Hexes 22415 | Lair:3 | Acquired Ashenzari's fourth power 22705 | Lair:4 | Noticed Fannar 22709 | Lair:4 | Killed Fannar 22849 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 22849 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 22851 | Lair:4 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 22851 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 22874 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 87/87 MP: 14/24 24843 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 24892 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1). [mutagenic glow] 25346 | Lair:4 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2477-geaae114 to 0.13-a0-2484-gc765b08 26763 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 18 in Hexes 27878 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 28281 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 28305 | Lair:7 | Found a dark tunnel. 28315 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 29207 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight 30116 | Lair:7 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 100/100 MP: 22/29 30569 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 31174 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 26 gold pieces 31991 | D:6 | Bought a manual of Stealth for 1214 gold pieces 32360 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness 32383 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32748 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 33228 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 33586 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 33845 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 34083 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 34084 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 34553 | D:13 | Noticed Maurice 34563 | D:13 | Killed Maurice 34563 | D:13 | Identified a cloak of preservation (You took it off Maurice on level 13 of the Dungeon) 35066 | D:13 | Noticed a hill giant 35071 | D:13 | Killed a hill giant 35379 | D:13 | Noticed Urug 35388 | D:13 | Killed Urug 35388 | D:13 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 35395 | D:13 | Noticed Josephine 35412 | D:13 | Killed Josephine 35942 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 35999 | D:14 | Found Khepnagh's Book Shop. 36060 | D:14 | Noticed Nergalle 36358 | D:6 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 330 gold pieces 36517 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 36532 | Orc:4 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 106/106 MP: 26/30 36562 | Orc:4 | Noticed Ellick's ghost (powerful KoHe) 36568 | Orc:4 | Killed Ellick's ghost 36801 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 37060 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 37436 | Orc:3 | Noticed Donald 37449 | Orc:3 | Killed Donald 37948 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 37948 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc warlord 37985 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc warlord 37989 | Orc:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 37992 | Orc:4 | Found Ypraobli's Jewellery Boutique. 38173 | Orc:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 38740 | Orc:4 | Killed Blork the orc 39125 | Orc:4 | Found Alur's Antique Armour Boutique. 39136 | Orc:4 | Found Psaludi's General Store. 39282 | Orc:4 | Found Fifis' Antique Weapon Boutique. 39300 | Orc:4 | Noticed Erolcha 39310 | Orc:4 | Noticed Nudhul's ghost (powerful MiBe) 39312 | Orc:4 | Killed Erolcha 39318 | Orc:4 | Killed Nudhul's ghost 39358 | Orc:4 | Noticed Harold 39370 | Orc:4 | Killed Harold 39491 | Orc:4 | Bought a pair of boots for 42 gold pieces 40750 | D:14 | Bought a book of Minor Magic for 320 gold pieces 40989 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 42503 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 42802 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 43604 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 44631 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 45452 | Swamp:3 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 105/113 MP: 27/32 46928 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 47225 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp 49033 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 49251 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest 49587 | Spider:1 | Noticed Nessos 49587 | Spider:1 | Killed Nessos 50010 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 50222 | Spider:1 | Noticed Rupert 50224 | Spider:1 | Killed Rupert 50774 | Spider:2 | Noticed Wiglaf 50775 | Spider:2 | Killed Wiglaf 51285 | Spider:2 | Noticed Kirke 51587 | D:14 | Bought a book of Conjurations for 480 gold pieces 51599 | D:14 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 51649 | D:14 | Killed Nergalle 51975 | Spider:2 | Killed Kirke 53163 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 53947 | Spider:4 | Noticed Arachne 54544 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 110/119 MP: 26/34 54724 | Spider:4 | Killed Arachne 55312 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55318 | Spider:4 | Noticed jejorda2's illusion 55321 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55321 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55360 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic 56022 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 56349 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 56386 | D:14 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 56608 | D:6 | Bought a book of Frost for 385 gold pieces 56614 | D:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle 56722 | Orc:4 | Bought the ring of Carodeg {MR Str+2 Dam+4} for 683 gold pieces 56722 | Orc:4 | Bought the amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ MR++} for 583 gold pieces 57483 | D:15 | Noticed Maud 57509 | D:15 | Killed Maud 59424 | D:15 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic 59666 | D:16 | Found Fulukor's Antique Weapon Shop. 60757 | D:17 | Found Zuyluuwna's Food Boutique. 61421 | D:16 | Noticed Agnes 61427 | D:16 | Killed Agnes 62071 | D:18 | Noticed Roxanne 62865 | D:18 | Identified the +2,+10 spear of Xom's Brutal Revenge {freeze, Int+1} 63373 | D:18 | Noticed Azrael 63479 | D:18 | Killed Azrael 63913 | D:18 | Noticed Frances 63913 | D:18 | Killed Frances 64688 | D:19 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 120/120 MP: 18/36 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 90 | 89 | 370 | 650 | 998 | 871 || 3068 Throw: Dart | 4 | | | | | || 4 Javelin | | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 || 9 Cast: Corona | 11 | 1 | | | | || 12 Ensorcelled Hiber | 17 | 45 | 142 | 94 | 99 | 54 || 451 Confuse | | 3 | 19 | 10 | 67 | 74 || 173 Invisibility | | | 8 | 42 | 81 | 74 || 205 Passwall | | | | 14 | 13 | 42 || 69 Flight | | | | | 38 | 56 || 94 Repel Missiles | | | | | 2 | 19 || 21 Dazzling Spray | | | | | | 75 || 75 Swiftness | | | | | | 18 || 18 Blink | | | | | | 4 || 4 Throw Icicle | | | | | | 7 || 7 Invok: Scrying | | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Abil: Bottle Blood | | 2 | 33 | 36 | 58 | 31 || 160 End Transformatio | | | 2 | | 2 | || 4 Bat Form | | | 2 | | 2 | || 4 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 4 || 12 Use: Potion | 1 | | 10 | 14 | 35 | 29 || 89 Scroll | | 15 | 11 | 12 | 17 | 19 || 74 Stab: Sleeping | 25 | 45 | 109 | 255 | 357 | 261 || 1052 Confused | | 1 | 12 | 3 | 29 | 31 || 76 Distracted | | | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 || 8 Invisible | | | 20 | 78 | 137 | 163 || 398 Paralysed | | | | 1 | | || 1 Held in net/web | | | | | | 2 || 2

I woke up Mara in Spider, so I'm looking for Vaults. The other options are Slime or Elf.

EDIT: Sojobo is awake at the Vaults entrance on D20. So I can try to sneak past Mara to Spider Ending, explore Elf, or try to confuse Sojobo and subdue him before taking on Vaults.

Sunday, 21st July 2013, 17:29 by jejorda2

I did Elf except for the final vault, then scried Mara asleep in Spider and passwalled for a clean stab.

I saw a bright pink curly bracket in the middle of Spider:5 after clearing most of the level, and figured it was the rune sitting all alone. But it was Ash telling me about something really dangerous, which was Xtahua. I wasn't buffed up or being very cautious, so I ended up in melee range using haste and bolt of cold. I ended up low on HP, bloodless, and out of blood potions, but I was standing and the dragon wasn't.

Magic mapping showed me that all the downstairs to unexplored dungeon levels where I might find blood were on the other side of Sojobo and a large number of boggarts and reavers. With no hp and no better source of blood, I took an escape hatch into unexplored territory. I found some sleeping yaktaurs to drain, and then took an escape hatch up so I might not end up right next to Sojobo. But I ended up near him anyway, and he was asleep, so I stabbed him and his party.

Then, supplied with blood, I got the Spider rune, and I can either explore the dungeon a bit more or enter the Vaults.

http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/jejorda2/jejorda2.txt

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2484-gc765b08 (console) character file. jejorda2 the Imperceptible (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 82561, Time: 07:44:06 HP 140/140 AC 23 Str 7 (8) XL: 19 Next: 76% MP 30/37 EV 23 Int 23 God: Ashenzari [******] Gold 550 SH 16 Dex 17 Spells: 13 memorised, 1 level left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + a - +7,+6 dagger (stab) (curse) Res.Cold : + + + Warding : . c - +5 steam dragon armour (curse) Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : + y - +3 dwarf buckler (curse) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : + J - +2 wizard hat {Int+3} (curse) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : + K - +2 cloak {rCorr, Cons} (curse) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . i - +2 pair of orc gauntlets Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . I - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : + Flight : + M - cursed amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ Saprovore : . . . A - cursed ring "Qomit" {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} L - cursed ring of Carodeg {MR Str+2 Dam+4} @: repel missiles, regenerating slowly, invisible, flying, very slightly contaminated, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing, Str -1 a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion }: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer You are on level 20 of the Dungeon. You worship Ashenzari. Ashenzari is exalted by your worship. You are near bloodless. You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 47 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 6161 gold pieces. You have spent 5631 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a cursed +7,+6 dagger of stabbing (weapon) Missiles d - 7 darts (quivered) x - 3 javelins Armour c - a cursed +5 steam dragon armour (worn) i - a +2 pair of orcish gauntlets (worn) y - a cursed +3 dwarven buckler (worn) I - a +0 pair of boots (worn) J - a cursed +2 wizard hat of intelligence (worn) K - a cursed +2 cloak of preservation (worn) Magical devices j - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} k - a wand of digging (3) l - a wand of fireball {zapped: 1} m - a wand of draining p - a wand of lightning u - a wand of disintegration v - a wand of polymorph (23) C - a wand of draining (3) F - a wand of hasting (5) N - a wand of fire Scrolls f - a scroll of magic mapping t - 3 scrolls of fear z - 3 scrolls of blinking E - 3 scrolls of fog G - 6 scrolls of teleportation Jewellery A - the cursed ring "Qomit" (right hand) {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon) [ring of protection from fire] It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4). It protects you from cold. It has a curse placed upon it. D - an uncursed ring of teleport control L - the cursed ring of Carodeg (left hand) {MR Str+2 Dam+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [ring of protection from magic] It affects your strength (+2). It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4). It has a curse placed upon it. M - the cursed amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {Clar rN+ MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [amulet of clarity] It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It has a curse placed upon it. Potions e - 3 potions of speed g - 3 potions of curing h - 6 potions of blood s - 3 potions of heal wounds w - a potion of agility B - a potion of might O - a potion of magic Miscellaneous o - a phial of floods r - a fan of gales Skills: - Level 12.2 Fighting - Level 8.8(13.2) Short Blades - Level 0.7 Throwing - Level 11.6 Armour + Level 11.2(14.0) Dodging - Level 23.5(25.6) Stealth - Level 3.7(6.5) Shields - Level 13.0 Spellcasting - Level 7.5(12.0) Conjurations - Level 20.4(23.9) Hexes - Level 10.6(14.9) Charms - Level 2.0(5.3) Summonings - Level 2.2(5.6) Translocations - Level 3.1(7.0) Transmutations - Level 9.6(13.9) Ice Magic - Level 2.3(5.8) Earth Magic You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Ensorcelled Hibernat Hex/Ice ###### 0% 2 None b - Confuse Hex #######. 0% 3 None c - Invisibility Hex #######. 1% 6 #####.. d - Throw Icicle Conj/Ice ######.. 1% 4 None e - Bolt of Cold Conj/Ice ######.... 3% 6 #####.. f - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex #######. 0% 3 None k - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None p - Passwall Trmt/Erth #####..... 1% 3 None B - Summon Butterflies Summ #####... 1% 1 None F - Flight Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 3 None H - Haste Chrm ######.. 1% 6 #####.. M - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None S - Swiftness Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (21/27) Temple (1/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (3/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (5/5) Lair:4 Spider (5/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (0/5) D:20 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:6: =/+? D:14: + D:16: ( D:17: % Orc:1: * Orc:4: *=([ Portals: Pandemonium: D:21 Annotations D:18 Roxanne Elf:3 1 exclusion Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You heal slowly. You can bottle blood from corpses. You have razor-sharp teeth.* You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You can survive without breathing.* You are weak (Str -1). Message History You can't see any susceptible monsters within range! (Use Z to cast anyway.) Casting: Throw Icicle Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Aiming: Throw Icicle Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - boggart Aim: a boggart, wielding a -1,+0 orcish hammer The shard of ice hits the boggart. You kill the boggart! Items here: ) [ a +4 orcish plate armour of fire resistance a +3,+2 long sword of slicing Items here: ( ) a +2,+0 longbow of frost; 34 arrows Done exploring. Unknown command. Search for what [Enter for "scroll && armour", or ? for help]? hex Search for what [Enter for "hex", or ? for help]? short Unknown command. Unknown command. 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Vanquished Creatures Saint Roka (Elf:2) Sojobo (D:20) Mara (Spider:4) Jory (D:20) Xtahua (Spider:5) Arachne (Spider:4) 2 tengu reavers (D:20) Rupert (Spider:1) Agnes (D:16) Frances (D:18) Kirke (Spider:2) 4 ghost moths Donald (Orc:3) Wiglaf (Spider:2) Maud (D:15) Aizul (Elf:2) The ghost of Nudhul the Severer, a powerful MiBe of Trog (Orc:4) A deep elf sorcerer (Elf:2) 4 emperor scorpions (Spider:5) An orc warlord (Orc:4) Gastronok (D:11) Jorgrun (Elf:3) 2 elemental wellsprings (D:20) A deep elf demonologist (Elf:2) Azrael (D:18) A deep elf death mage (Elf:3) A yaktaur captain (D:21) 21 hydras Fannar (Lair:4) The ghost of Vorless the Cleaver, a powerful LOFi of Okawaru (D:11) Harold (Orc:4) Josephine (D:13) The ghost of Ellick the Prestidigitator, a powerful KoHe of Elyvilon (Orc:4) Nessos (Spider:1) A ravenous feature mimic (D:19) 4 ogre magi 3 deep troll shamans A deep troll earth mage (D:19) 2 orc high priests 8 alligators A rakshasa (D:19) 23 death yaks Urug (D:13) 3 very ugly things (Spider:2) Nergalle (D:14) A catoblepas (Lair:8) An iron golem (D:19) Erolcha (Orc:4) A wizard (D:17) 15 deep elf knights 7 skeletal warriors 14 centaur warriors A flayed ghost (D:18) 4 unseen horrors An unseen horror (shapeshifter) (D:16) 3 deep trolls 10 swamp dragons An ice devil (Orc:3) 3 giant amoebae A lindwurm (Lair:8) 9 hill giants 8 deep elf conjurers A wolf spider zombie (D:16) 34 wolf spiders 4 oklob plants 3 cyclopes 5 orc sorcerers 2 shining eyes (shapeshifter) 7 orc knights A stone giant zombie (D:20) 5 griffons A moth of wrath (Spider:5) A sphinx skeleton (Volcano) A black mamba (Lair:4) A frost giant skeleton (D:18) Maurice (D:13) A griffon (shapeshifter) (D:19) 6 deep elf summoners 3 red wasps 3 stone giant skeletons 8 elephants A fire giant skeleton (D:20) 14 spiny frogs An eye of devastation (D:14) 2 queen ants Psyche (Orc:2) A feature mimic (D:11) A small abomination (Elf:2) 8 demonic crawlers A queen bee (shapeshifter) (D:19) 8 trolls A guardian mummy (Volcano) 2 fire drakes (Lair:6) 11 yaktaurs 12 deep elf priests A hydra zombie (D:13) 10 komodo dragons A wind drake (shapeshifter) (D:17) 38 jumping spiders 7 two-headed ogres 2 giant leeches 10 orb spiders An ettin zombie (D:20) Prince Ribbit (D:8) 2 ravens 2 hydra skeletons A minotaur skeleton (Volcano) 56 slime creatures 2 boulder beetles 2 baby alligators (Swamp:3) A basilisk (D:19) 2 bog bodies (Swamp:2) A trapdoor spider zombie (D:15) A sphinx simulacrum (D:17) 2 flying skulls (Volcano) 10 blink frogs 44 trapdoor spiders A basilisk (shapeshifter) (D:19) A trapdoor spider (shapeshifter) (D:13) 5 vampires (Volcano) 4 sharks An air elemental (D:19) 48 redbacks A dragon skeleton (D:15) A griffon skeleton (D:15) 3 wraiths (D:18) 3 shadows 29 deep elf magi 2 hill giant zombies (D:13) 8 water elementals An elephant slug (Lair:4) 3 hungry ghosts 32 tarantellas 5 wyverns 2 fire elementals (D:18) 24 ugly things Eustachio (Orc:2) 26 deep elf fighters 7 hippogriffs 62 yaks A hog (Spider:2) A rock worm (Spider:3) A spriggan skeleton (Volcano) 50 vampire mosquitoes A steam dragon (D:11) 5 mottled dragons 14 wolves A hill giant skeleton (Volcano) A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:17) 3 manticores 53 swamp worms A necrophage (D:9) A manticore (shapeshifter) (D:20) 21 swamp drakes 28 soldier ants 3 yellow wasps 11 porcupines 2 dwarves (D:9) 2 hell hounds (D:18) A human (D:8) 31 orc warriors 5 black bears 5 phantoms 29 ogres An ice beast (shapeshifter) (D:20) 2 sky beasts 2 boring beetles 2 wargs Sigmund (D:3) Duvessa (D:5) 11 big kobolds 27 centaurs 16 crocodiles A fire crab zombie (D:18) 10 giant slugs 15 giant goldfish A komodo dragon zombie (D:15) 2 yaktaur zombies The ghost of uberrath the Magician, an average DEFE (D:4) Blork the orc (Orc:4) 23 giant frogs 3 cyclops zombies 12 insubstantial wisps 2 agate snails A wyvern zombie (D:8) 24 water moccasins 2 cyclops skeletons A troll zombie (D:14) 19 killer bees A hippogriff zombie (D:13) A troll skeleton (D:13) 9 wights A yak skeleton (D:15) An eye of draining (D:17) A killer bee (shapeshifter) (D:15) 5 jellyfish 12 electric eels Dowan (D:5) A giant frog zombie (D:13) 16 crimson imps 8 goliath beetles 2 quasits (Elf:2) 27 spiders 23 big fish 16 hounds 33 orc wizards Crazy Yiuf (D:3) 3 centaur skeletons A giant frog skeleton (D:6) 3 iguanas 28 orc priests 10 scorpions A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:13) 18 sheep 58 worker ants 7 jellies An ogre zombie (D:6) A hound zombie (D:10) A mottled dragon skeleton (D:13) 2 big kobold skeletons 7 boggarts A mummy (D:14) 2 naga skeletons (Volcano) 52 green rats 22 adders 6 giant centipedes An inept feature mimic (D:7) A shadow imp (Elf:2) 2 giant mites 8 worms An iguana zombie (D:7) A giant eyeball (D:12) 11 giant geckos 164 orcs 5 ball pythons 28 bats 5 giant cockroaches 20 goblins 25 hobgoblins 38 jackals 68 kobolds 10 quokkas 6 giant newts 2 hobgoblin skeletons (D:8) 3 illusory rakshasas (D:19) A quokka zombie (D:5) 30 rats A rat zombie (D:8) 2 spectral orcs A ballistomycete (D:8) A crawling corpse (Elf:2) 3 fungi (Lair:8) A plant (D:12) 2084 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A deep elf knight (Elf:2) A deep elf conjurer (Elf:2) A water elemental (D:20) 2 deep elf fighters A troll skeleton (Volcano) A spider (Spider:4) 3 orcs A human (Spider:2) A giant spore (D:8) 2 kobolds (D:17) 11 fungi 9 plants 34 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 2118 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | jejorda2, the Vampire Enchanter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 4/4 202 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/19 MP: 2/5 216 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 627 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1146 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1146 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1147 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1148 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1270 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 6/6 1732 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 30/30 MP: 9/9 1737 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 1935 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 2853 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 2859 | D:3 | Killed Sigmund 2859 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Hexes 2859 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 3/10 3282 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 3283 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 3486 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 3492 | D:3 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 3586 | D:4 | Noticed uberrath's ghost (average DEFE) 3599 | D:4 | Killed uberrath's ghost 3599 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Hexes 3599 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 9/12 3664 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Hexes 3982 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 3994 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4306 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/46 MP: 10/13 4715 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4814 | D:5 | Identified the Reference Book on Destructive Self-Knowledge (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 5007 | D:5 | Noticed Dowan 5268 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 5862 | D:5 | Noticed Duvessa 5870 | D:5 | Killed Duvessa 5886 | D:5 | Killed Dowan 6148 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 6546 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 6551 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 6629 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled 6665 | D:6 | Found Dyetalo's Jewellery Emporium. 6676 | D:6 | Bought an uncursed amulet of inaccuracy for 22 gold pieces 6694 | D:6 | Found Souwudou's Magical Wand Emporium. 7049 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 7049 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/52 MP: 15/15 7204 | D:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Hexes 7227 | D:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Invisibility 7390 | D:6 | Found Ykiffez's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 7397 | D:6 | Found Keupucua's Book Emporium. 7520 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 8017 | D:7 | Reached skill level 12 in Hexes 8195 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 8204 | D:7 | the staircase to the Ecumenical Temple was a mimic. 8375 | D:7 | Reached skill level 13 in Hexes 8550 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Hexes 8866 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/57 MP: 11/16 9767 | D:8 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 9771 | D:8 | Killed Prince Ribbit 9771 | D:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Hexes 10328 | D:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Hexes 12136 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 63/63 MP: 14/18 12269 | D:9 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 12286 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12360 | D:8 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 12363 | D:8 | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin 12901 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations 12901 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 13094 | D:9 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 13326 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 13489 | Orc:1 | Found Pnuckaott's Assorted Antiques. 14268 | Orc:1 | Bought a glowing dwarven buckler for 93 gold pieces 14352 | D:6 | Bought the ring "Qomit" {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} for 521 gold pieces 14509 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14729 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 14864 | D:10 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 15502 | D:10 | Acquired Ashenzari's first power 15622 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 15629 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 15629 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 9/22 15713 | Orc:2 | Noticed Psyche 15714 | Orc:2 | Killed Psyche 16178 | Orc:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 16223 | Orc:3 | Identified the +2 animal skin of Offu {+Blink Curse} (You found it on level 3 of the Orcish Mines) 16548 | Orc:2 | Noticed Eustachio 16551 | Orc:2 | Killed Eustachio 16718 | D:6 | Bought an uncursed ring of protection from magic for 275 gold pieces 16864 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 26 gold pieces 17003 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 17008 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 17244 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 17245 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 17253 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 17264 | D:11 | Noticed Vorless' ghost (powerful LOFi) 17272 | D:11 | Killed Vorless' ghost 17505 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 18338 | D:12 | Identified the ring of Kasus {Hunger- Dex+1 Int+3 Acc+6} 18551 | D:12 | Acquired Ashenzari's second power 18639 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 18931 | D:12 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 19186 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 19250 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Freezing Aura 19460 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 19891 | Lair:1 | Acquired Ashenzari's third power 19903 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 74/74 MP: 12/23 20807 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 22007 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 22157 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Hexes 22415 | Lair:3 | Acquired Ashenzari's fourth power 22705 | Lair:4 | Noticed Fannar 22709 | Lair:4 | Killed Fannar 22849 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 22849 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 22851 | Lair:4 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 22851 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 22874 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 87/87 MP: 14/24 24843 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 24892 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1). [mutagenic glow] 25346 | Lair:4 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2477-geaae114 to 0.13-a0-2484-gc765b08 26763 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 18 in Hexes 27878 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 28281 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 28305 | Lair:7 | Found a dark tunnel. 28315 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 29207 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight 30116 | Lair:7 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 100/100 MP: 22/29 30569 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 31174 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 26 gold pieces 31991 | D:6 | Bought a manual of Stealth for 1214 gold pieces 32360 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness 32383 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32748 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 33228 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 33586 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 33845 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 34083 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 34084 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 34553 | D:13 | Noticed Maurice 34563 | D:13 | Killed Maurice 34563 | D:13 | Identified a cloak of preservation (You took it off Maurice on level 13 of the Dungeon) 35066 | D:13 | Noticed a hill giant 35071 | D:13 | Killed a hill giant 35379 | D:13 | Noticed Urug 35388 | D:13 | Killed Urug 35388 | D:13 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 35395 | D:13 | Noticed Josephine 35412 | D:13 | Killed Josephine 35942 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 35999 | D:14 | Found Khepnagh's Book Shop. 36060 | D:14 | Noticed Nergalle 36358 | D:6 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 330 gold pieces 36517 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 36532 | Orc:4 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 106/106 MP: 26/30 36562 | Orc:4 | Noticed Ellick's ghost (powerful KoHe) 36568 | Orc:4 | Killed Ellick's ghost 36801 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 37060 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 37436 | Orc:3 | Noticed Donald 37449 | Orc:3 | Killed Donald 37948 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 37948 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc warlord 37985 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc warlord 37989 | Orc:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 37992 | Orc:4 | Found Ypraobli's Jewellery Boutique. 38173 | Orc:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 38740 | Orc:4 | Killed Blork the orc 39125 | Orc:4 | Found Alur's Antique Armour Boutique. 39136 | Orc:4 | Found Psaludi's General Store. 39282 | Orc:4 | Found Fifis' Antique Weapon Boutique. 39300 | Orc:4 | Noticed Erolcha 39310 | Orc:4 | Noticed Nudhul's ghost (powerful MiBe) 39312 | Orc:4 | Killed Erolcha 39318 | Orc:4 | Killed Nudhul's ghost 39358 | Orc:4 | Noticed Harold 39370 | Orc:4 | Killed Harold 39491 | Orc:4 | Bought a pair of boots for 42 gold pieces 40750 | D:14 | Bought a book of Minor Magic for 320 gold pieces 40989 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 42503 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 42802 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 43604 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 44631 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 45452 | Swamp:3 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 105/113 MP: 27/32 46928 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 47225 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp 49033 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 49251 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest 49587 | Spider:1 | Noticed Nessos 49587 | Spider:1 | Killed Nessos 50010 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 50222 | Spider:1 | Noticed Rupert 50224 | Spider:1 | Killed Rupert 50774 | Spider:2 | Noticed Wiglaf 50775 | Spider:2 | Killed Wiglaf 51285 | Spider:2 | Noticed Kirke 51587 | D:14 | Bought a book of Conjurations for 480 gold pieces 51599 | D:14 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 51649 | D:14 | Killed Nergalle 51975 | Spider:2 | Killed Kirke 53163 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 53947 | Spider:4 | Noticed Arachne 54544 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 110/119 MP: 26/34 54724 | Spider:4 | Killed Arachne 55312 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55318 | Spider:4 | Noticed jejorda2's illusion 55321 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55321 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55360 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic 56022 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 56349 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 56386 | D:14 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 56608 | D:6 | Bought a book of Frost for 385 gold pieces 56614 | D:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle 56722 | Orc:4 | Bought the ring of Carodeg {MR Str+2 Dam+4} for 683 gold pieces 56722 | Orc:4 | Bought the amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ MR++} for 583 gold pieces 57483 | D:15 | Noticed Maud 57509 | D:15 | Killed Maud 59424 | D:15 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic 59666 | D:16 | Found Fulukor's Antique Weapon Shop. 60757 | D:17 | Found Zuyluuwna's Food Boutique. 61421 | D:16 | Noticed Agnes 61427 | D:16 | Killed Agnes 62071 | D:18 | Noticed Roxanne 62865 | D:18 | Identified the +2,+10 spear of Xom's Brutal Revenge {freeze, Int+1} 63373 | D:18 | Noticed Azrael 63479 | D:18 | Killed Azrael 63913 | D:18 | Noticed Frances 63913 | D:18 | Killed Frances 64688 | D:19 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 120/120 MP: 18/36 67123 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 67476 | D:20 | Noticed Jory 67481 | D:20 | Killed Jory 67481 | D:20 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 67938 | D:20 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 68032 | D:20 | Noticed Sojobo 69359 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 70757 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Cold 71358 | Elf:2 | Noticed Aizul 71358 | Elf:2 | Killed Aizul 73122 | Elf:2 | Noticed Saint Roka 73130 | Elf:2 | Killed Saint Roka 73130 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 73521 | D:6 | Bought a book of Beasts for 605 gold pieces 73524 | D:6 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 73697 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls 74474 | Elf:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 75098 | Elf:3 | Noticed Jorgrun 75117 | Elf:3 | Killed Jorgrun 75725 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 134/134 MP: 37/37 76248 | Spider:4 | Killed Mara 76248 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 76591 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest 80221 | D:21 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 80580 | D:20 | Killed Sojobo 81557 | Spider:5 | Noticed Xtahua 81564 | Spider:5 | Killed Xtahua 81930 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 90 | 89 | 370 | 650 | 998 | 1249 | 373 || 3819 Throw: Dart | 4 | | | | | 1 | 3 || 8 Javelin | | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | || 9 Cast: Corona | 11 | 1 | | | | | || 12 Ensorcelled Hiber | 17 | 45 | 142 | 94 | 99 | 68 | 2 || 467 Confuse | | 3 | 19 | 10 | 67 | 97 | 64 || 260 Invisibility | | | 8 | 42 | 81 | 111 | 22 || 264 Passwall | | | | 14 | 13 | 83 | 3 || 113 Flight | | | | | 38 | 65 | 3 || 106 Repel Missiles | | | | | 2 | 29 | 9 || 40 Dazzling Spray | | | | | | 139 | 38 || 177 Swiftness | | | | | | 27 | 3 || 30 Blink | | | | | | 10 | 6 || 16 Throw Icicle | | | | | | 29 | 55 || 84 Haste | | | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Bolt of Cold | | | | | | | 7 || 7 Invok: Scrying | | | | | 1 | 2 | 1 || 4 Abil: Bottle Blood | | 2 | 33 | 36 | 58 | 61 | 7 || 197 End Transformatio | | | 2 | | 2 | | || 4 Bat Form | | | 2 | | 2 | | || 4 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 1 || 13 Miscellaneous | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Use: Potion | 1 | | 10 | 14 | 35 | 55 | 12 || 127 Scroll | | 15 | 11 | 12 | 17 | 26 | 7 || 88 Stab: Sleeping | 25 | 45 | 109 | 255 | 357 | 354 | 42 || 1187 Confused | | 1 | 12 | 3 | 29 | 41 | 20 || 106 Distracted | | | 2 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 3 || 13 Invisible | | | 20 | 78 | 137 | 241 | 61 || 537 Paralysed | | | | 1 | | | || 1 Held in net/web | | | | | | 2 | || 2

I still have an acquirement scroll to do something with, and I don't have a good strategy (or a good reason) to take on the Elf treasure vault. I don't think I've ever survived it without a cloud spell or BIA.

I could trade my +3 dwarven buckler for a +0 elven buckler of fire resistance, but I'm not sure it's worth the scrolls right now.

Sunday, 21st July 2013, 17:53 by jejorda2

mikee wrote:My guess without looking at the contents of this thread was that you didn't have enough dodging or fighting. This seems to be the case. I don't know why so many people don't like these skills - too boring maybe.

I had ~8 dodging and fighting at XL15, at the end of lair, and dodging was boosted to 11 by Ash. I decided to put more XP into stealth because I had a manual, and not much is waking up to test my EV.

Is 8 fighting and dodging lower than you would recommend on a stabber at XL15? Of what I trained, I guess the charms for haste or the high levels of hexes for EH spell power would be what one would sacrifice for increased fighting/dodging, or is there something else that I have overtrained?

Sunday, 21st July 2013, 18:10 by le_nerd

Do you have Darkness and Silence somewhere? With both of these sneaking the final Elven Vault is quite possible and rather riskfree. Cast buffs, darkness, silence; sneak+stab everything thats between you and the treasure; retreat and fight the helpless magic-dependent elves. Beware of Blademasters and Master Archers. Alternatively Enslaving one of the conjuring elves can go a great length to help with the raid.

Sunday, 21st July 2013, 19:21 by jejorda2

Silence sounds workable, and the book of the Sky is in a shop. I haven't found darkness. I haven't memorized enslave. I need some spell slots, and there isn't anything I want to get rid of, so I guess I'll train spellcasting in Vaults order to get Silence. Power would be ######.... without training Air. It looks like I get a 5-space radius and a 30 turn duration for my current skills.

Sunday, 21st July 2013, 19:50 by jejorda2

I have found a trove that wants the abyssal rune. I've never gotten the abyssal rune, and I haven't seen most of the new Abyss monsters. Reading about them, it seems that being undead makes several of them easy to deal with. I've never been stealthy in the abyss; does anything sleep there in the first place?

Dazzling spray is wonderfully effective. Stabbing awakened things like Sphinxes and Reapers that see invisible and are immune to enchantment feels like it might cheating.

Sunday, 21st July 2013, 20:03 by Amnesiac

They sometimes sleep on deeper levels, as far as I know. Just run from wretched stars because they will rot you more than anything else(unless it has been dealt with, somehow, in newer versions). They don't need to target you, unlike shining eyes/neqoxecs, so hiding behind another monster doesn't help.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 02:01 by prozacelf

le_nerd wrote:Do you have Darkness and Silence somewhere? With both of these sneaking the final Elven Vault is quite possible and rather riskfree. Cast buffs, darkness, silence; sneak+stab everything thats between you and the treasure; retreat and fight the helpless magic-dependent elves. Beware of Blademasters and Master Archers. Alternatively Enslaving one of the conjuring elves can go a great length to help with the raid.

You actually get a stealth penalty with silence, so you probably should only use it to keep alert dudes from casting at you.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 03:24 by jejorda2

I've done Vaults 1-4, Blade, and Forest 1-2. I've found a book of Annihilations, but playing around in Wizmode, it looks like if I put all my stats into INT, and raise both Ice and Spellcasting from 15 to 27, I'll still need to get Conjurations from 14 to 21 to get Ice Storm failure down to 10%. Is there enough experience for that before I run into orbs of fire? Maybe I shouldn't be training Ice up for Ice Storm.

I think there are 17 spell levels left now, since I'm XP Level 22 and my spellcasting is at 15. So 7 for darkness + 1 for apportation + 9 for freezing cloud would fit, or 7 for darkness, 4 for petrify, 6 for freezing cloud. Then I'd drop Hibernation for apportation.

Does it make sense to acquire gold, buy a second manual of stealth, train stealth, and use ash to reskill that cheap experience into another skill?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2488-g1078ce8 (console) character file. jejorda2 the Imperceptible (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 115893, Time: 10:43:36 HP 165/165 (170) AC 23 Str 8 XL: 22 Next: 83% MP 29/41 EV 26 Int 24 God: Ashenzari [******] Gold 982 SH 12 Dex 17 Spells: 14 memorised, 3 levels left Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : + a - +8,+7 dagger (stab) (curse) Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . c - +5 steam dragon armour (curse) Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : + N - +0 elf buckler {rF+} (curse) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : + J - +2 wizard hat {Int+3} (curse) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : + K - +2 cloak {rCorr, Cons} (curse) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . i - +2 pair of orc gauntlets Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . I - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : + Flight : . M - cursed amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ Saprovore : . . . A - cursed ring "Qomit" {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} L - cursed ring of Carodeg {MR Str+2 Dam+4} @: regenerating slowly, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing, Str -1 a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion }: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer You are on level 3 of the Enchanted Forest. You worship Ashenzari. Ashenzari is exalted by your worship. You are very thirsty. You have visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and seen 56 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 7088 gold pieces. You have spent 6126 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a cursed +8,+7 dagger of stabbing (weapon) Missiles d - 5 darts (quivered) x - 3 javelins Armour c - a cursed +5 steam dragon armour (worn) i - a +2 pair of orcish gauntlets (worn) I - a +0 pair of boots (worn) J - a cursed +2 wizard hat of intelligence (worn) K - a cursed +2 cloak of preservation (worn) N - a cursed +0 elven buckler of fire resistance (worn) Magical devices j - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} k - a wand of digging (3) l - a wand of fireball {zapped: 1} p - a wand of lightning u - a wand of disintegration v - a wand of polymorph (23) F - a wand of hasting (5) Scrolls f - a scroll of magic mapping n - a scroll labeled SHYMON YCZIWN t - 3 scrolls of fear z - 3 scrolls of blinking C - 3 scrolls of identify E - 4 scrolls of fog G - 3 scrolls of teleportation Jewellery A - the cursed ring "Qomit" (right hand) {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon) [ring of protection from fire] It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4). It protects you from cold. It has a curse placed upon it. L - the cursed ring of Carodeg (left hand) {MR Str+2 Dam+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [ring of protection from magic] It affects your strength (+2). It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4). It has a curse placed upon it. M - the cursed amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {Clar rN+ MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [amulet of clarity] It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It has a curse placed upon it. Potions b - 7 potions of blood e - 4 potions of speed g - 5 potions of curing h - 3 potions of brilliance q - 2 potions of flight s - 3 potions of heal wounds w - 2 potions of agility B - 2 potions of might O - a potion of magic Books m - a book of Annihilations Spells Type Level Poison Arrow Conjuration/Poison 6 Orb of Destruction Conjuration 7 Chain Lightning Conjuration/Air 8 Lehudib's Crystal Spear Conjuration/Earth 8 Ice Storm Conjuration/Ice 9 Fire Storm Conjuration/Fire 9 Miscellaneous o - a phial of floods (inert) r - a fan of gales (inert) Skills: - Level 15.2 Fighting - Level 11.8(15.9) Short Blades - Level 0.7 Throwing - Level 11.6 Armour - Level 15.7(18.3) Dodging - Level 23.5(25.6) Stealth - Level 3.7(6.5) Shields + Level 15.4 Spellcasting - Level 9.5(13.8) Conjurations - Level 20.4(23.9) Hexes - Level 10.6(14.9) Charms - Level 2.0(5.3) Summonings - Level 2.2(5.6) Translocations - Level 3.1(7.0) Transmutations - Level 12.0(16.1) Ice Magic - Level 2.3(5.8) Earth Magic - Level 3.2(7.1) Evocations You have 3 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Ensorcelled Hibernat Hex/Ice ###### 0% 2 None b - Confuse Hex #######. 0% 3 None c - Invisibility Hex #######. 1% 6 ####... d - Throw Icicle Conj/Ice ######.. 1% 4 None e - Bolt of Cold Conj/Ice ######.... 1% 6 ####... f - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex #######. 0% 3 None g - Silence Hex/Air ######.... 1% 5 None k - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None p - Passwall Trmt/Erth #####..... 1% 3 None B - Summon Butterflies Summ #####... 1% 1 None F - Flight Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 3 None H - Haste Chrm ######.. 1% 6 ####... M - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 2 None S - Swiftness Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (22/27) Temple (1/1) D:6 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (3/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (5/5) Lair:4 Spider (5/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (4/5) D:20 Blade (1/1) Vaults:4 Forest (3/5) Vaults:3 Tomb: Forest:2-3 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:6: =/+? D:14: + D:16: ( D:17: % Orc:1: * Orc:4: *=([ Vaults:3: (+? Vaults:4: + Portals: Hell: D:21 D:22 Abyss: D:22 Pandemonium: D:21 Trove: D:22 (show abyssal rune of Zot) Annotations D:18 Roxanne Elf:3 1 exclusion Vaults:2 apport pots from alarm traps Forest:3 exclusion: treant Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You heal slowly. You can bottle blood from corpses. You have razor-sharp teeth.* You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You can survive without breathing.* You are weak (Str -1). Message History The redback is moderately wounded. The redback closely misses you. You puncture the redback! The redback is almost dead. The redback bites you. You hit the redback. You kill the redback! Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Yummy - fresh blood! You are feeling very thirsty. You start resting. HP restored. Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Search for what [Enter for "storm", or ? for help]? cloud Unknown command. Unknown command. 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Vanquished Creatures Saint Roka (Elf:2) Sojobo (D:20) Margery (Forest:1) Mara (Spider:4) Mennas (Forest:2) Jory (D:20) Xtahua (Spider:5) Arachne (Spider:4) A tentacled monstrosity (D:22) 3 sphinxes 3 tengu reavers A storm dragon (D:22) Rupert (Spider:1) Agnes (D:16) Frances (D:18) Kirke (Spider:2) 4 ghost moths Donald (Orc:3) Wiglaf (Spider:2) A frost giant (D:22) Maud (D:15) 9 vault wardens 3 fire giants 3 thorn hunters Aizul (Elf:2) Louise (Vaults:1) The ghost of Nudhul the Severer, a powerful MiBe of Trog (Orc:4) 2 deep elf sorcerers 4 emperor scorpions (Spider:5) An orc warlord (Orc:4) Gastronok (D:11) Jorgrun (Elf:3) 2 treants 8 stone giants An apis (Forest:3) 4 elemental wellsprings A reaper (D:22) A deep elf demonologist (Elf:2) 3 satyrs Azrael (D:18) 3 dire elephants 8 spriggan air magi A deep elf death mage (Elf:3) 6 ironheart preservers 8 vault guards (Vaults:4) 13 yaktaur captains 3 dragons 26 hydras Fannar (Lair:4) 4 great orbs of eyes The ghost of Vorless the Cleaver, a powerful LOFi of Okawaru (D:11) Harold (Orc:4) Josephine (D:13) The ghost of Ellick the Prestidigitator, a powerful KoHe of Elyvilon (Orc:4) 20 dancing weapons (Blade) Nessos (Spider:1) 3 ice dragons 5 spriggan berserkers An anaconda (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1) A ravenous feature mimic (D:19) 9 ogre magi 3 spriggan enchanters 3 deep troll shamans A deep troll earth mage (D:19) A spriggan assassin (Forest:3) 3 spriggan druids (Forest:2) 2 orc high priests 8 alligators 2 rakshasas 23 death yaks Urug (D:13) 4 very ugly things Nergalle (D:14) 3 hell knights (Forest:1) A soul eater (Vaults:4) A catoblepas (Lair:8) An iron golem (D:19) Erolcha (Orc:4) 3 iron trolls A fire crab (Vaults:1) 2 wizards 16 deep elf knights 7 skeletal warriors 34 centaur warriors A flayed ghost (D:18) 7 unseen horrors An unseen horror (shapeshifter) (D:16) 3 deep trolls 12 fauns 4 dryads 10 swamp dragons An ice devil (Orc:3) 5 giant amoebae A lindwurm (Lair:8) 13 hill giants 10 ironbrand convokers 10 deep elf conjurers A wolf spider zombie (D:16) 44 wolf spiders 5 oklob plants 4 necromancers (Forest:1) 8 cyclopes 9 orc sorcerers 2 shining eyes (shapeshifter) A sphinx zombie (Vaults:1) 8 harpies 30 orc knights 3 stone giant zombies A statue (D:21) 10 griffons A spirit wolf (Forest:2) A moth of wrath (Spider:5) A sphinx skeleton (Volcano) A spiny worm (Vaults:2) A black mamba (Lair:4) 5 frost giant skeletons Maurice (D:13) A griffon (shapeshifter) (D:19) 6 deep elf summoners 6 red wasps 9 stone giant skeletons 9 vault sentinels 8 elephants 2 fire giant skeletons 14 spiny frogs An eye of devastation (D:14) 2 queen ants A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1) Psyche (Orc:2) A feature mimic (D:11) 2 small abominations 8 demonic crawlers A hellwing (Vaults:2) 2 iron troll zombies A queen bee (shapeshifter) (D:19) 9 trolls A guardian mummy (Volcano) A spriggan (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1) 2 fire drakes (Lair:6) 55 yaktaurs 14 deep elf priests A red devil (Vaults:2) A hydra zombie (D:13) A polar bear (Forest:2) 10 komodo dragons A wind drake (shapeshifter) (D:17) 38 jumping spiders 12 two-headed ogres 2 giant leeches 10 orb spiders 2 iron troll skeletons A queen bee (Forest:3) A blue devil (Vaults:4) An ettin zombie (D:20) Prince Ribbit (D:8) 2 ravens 4 thorn lotuses 2 hydra skeletons A snapping turtle (shapeshifter) (D:22) A minotaur skeleton (Volcano) 84 slime creatures 26 spriggans 7 boulder beetles 4 wind drakes 2 baby alligators (Swamp:3) A basilisk (D:19) 2 bog bodies (Swamp:2) 17 giant fireflies 2 stone giant simulacra A trapdoor spider zombie (D:15) A grizzly bear (Forest:2) A sphinx simulacrum (D:17) 2 flying skulls (Volcano) 10 blink frogs 44 trapdoor spiders A basilisk (shapeshifter) (D:19) A trapdoor spider (shapeshifter) (D:13) 5 vampires (Volcano) 4 sharks 19 air elementals A baby alligator (shapeshifter) (D:22) 65 redbacks A dragon skeleton (D:15) A griffon skeleton (D:15) 6 wraiths 3 shadows 33 deep elf magi 2 hill giant zombies (D:13) A redback (shapeshifter) (D:22) 12 water elementals An elephant slug (Lair:4) 3 hungry ghosts 33 tarantellas 5 wyverns 2 fire elementals (D:18) 107 ugly things Eustachio (Orc:2) 31 deep elf fighters 7 hippogriffs A clay golem (D:22) 72 yaks A neqoxec (D:22) A hog (Spider:2) 2 rock worms A spriggan skeleton (Volcano) 63 vampire mosquitoes A steam dragon (D:11) 8 mottled dragons 33 wolves A hill giant skeleton (Volcano) A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:17) 3 manticores 53 swamp worms A necrophage (D:9) A manticore (shapeshifter) (D:20) 8 freezing wraiths 21 swamp drakes 28 soldier ants A deep troll skeleton (Vaults:3) 5 yellow wasps 11 porcupines 2 dwarves (D:9) 2 hell hounds (D:18) A human (D:8) 54 orc warriors 7 black bears 5 phantoms 45 ogres An ice beast (shapeshifter) (D:20) 2 sky beasts 2 boring beetles 6 wargs Sigmund (D:3) Duvessa (D:5) 11 big kobolds 44 centaurs 16 crocodiles A fire crab zombie (D:18) 13 giant slugs 15 giant goldfish A komodo dragon zombie (D:15) 5 yaktaur zombies The ghost of uberrath the Magician, an average DEFE (D:4) Blork the orc (Orc:4) 23 giant frogs 3 cyclops zombies 12 insubstantial wisps 3 agate snails A wyvern zombie (D:8) 2 yaktaur skeletons (Vaults:1) 24 water moccasins 2 cyclops skeletons A troll zombie (D:14) 33 killer bees A hippogriff zombie (D:13) A troll skeleton (D:13) 9 wights A yak skeleton (D:15) An eye of draining (D:17) A killer bee (shapeshifter) (D:15) 6 jellyfish 12 electric eels Dowan (D:5) A giant frog zombie (D:13) 16 crimson imps 8 goliath beetles A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:1) 2 quasits (Elf:2) 27 spiders 23 big fish A giant slug simulacrum (Vaults:1) 16 hounds 37 orc wizards Crazy Yiuf (D:3) 3 centaur skeletons A giant frog skeleton (D:6) 3 iguanas 38 orc priests 10 scorpions A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:13) 22 sheep 58 worker ants 7 jellies An ogre zombie (D:6) A boulder beetle simulacrum (Vaults:1) A hound zombie (D:10) A mottled dragon skeleton (D:13) 2 big kobold skeletons 10 boggarts 3 mummies 2 naga skeletons (Volcano) 52 green rats 22 adders 6 giant centipedes An inept feature mimic (D:7) A shadow imp (Elf:2) 2 giant mites 8 worms An iguana zombie (D:7) A giant eyeball (D:12) 11 giant geckos 188 orcs 5 ball pythons 28 bats 5 giant cockroaches 20 goblins 25 hobgoblins 38 jackals 68 kobolds 10 quokkas 6 giant newts 2 hobgoblin skeletons (D:8) 3 illusory rakshasas (D:19) A quokka zombie (D:5) 30 rats A rat zombie (D:8) 2 spectral orcs A ballistomycete (D:8) A butterfly (Forest:1) A crawling corpse (Elf:2) 3 fungi (Lair:8) A plant (D:12) 3 snaplasher vines (Forest:2) 2863 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A killer bee (Forest:3) 1 creature vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A deep elf death mage (Vaults:4) A deep elf knight (Elf:2) A deep elf conjurer (Elf:2) A spectral human (Vaults:4) A necromancer (Vaults:1) A stone giant zombie (Vaults:3) A smoke demon (Vaults:4) An air elemental (Forest:3) A spriggan (Forest:3) A two-headed ogre (D:20) 3 water elementals 2 ugly things (Vaults:3) 2 deep elf fighters 4 centaurs A troll skeleton (Volcano) A spider (Spider:4) 5 orcs A human (Spider:2) A giant spore (D:8) 2 kobolds (D:17) 11 fungi 11 plants 127 snaplasher vine segments 181 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 3045 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | jejorda2, the Vampire Enchanter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 4/4 202 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/19 MP: 2/5 216 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 627 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1146 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1146 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1147 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1148 | D:1 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1270 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 6/6 1732 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 30/30 MP: 9/9 1737 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 1935 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 2853 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 2859 | D:3 | Killed Sigmund 2859 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Hexes 2859 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 3/10 3282 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 3283 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 3486 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 3492 | D:3 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 3586 | D:4 | Noticed uberrath's ghost (average DEFE) 3599 | D:4 | Killed uberrath's ghost 3599 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Hexes 3599 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 9/12 3664 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Hexes 3982 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 3994 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4306 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/46 MP: 10/13 4715 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4814 | D:5 | Identified the Reference Book on Destructive Self-Knowledge (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 5007 | D:5 | Noticed Dowan 5268 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 5862 | D:5 | Noticed Duvessa 5870 | D:5 | Killed Duvessa 5886 | D:5 | Killed Dowan 6148 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 6546 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 6551 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 6629 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled 6665 | D:6 | Found Dyetalo's Jewellery Emporium. 6676 | D:6 | Bought an uncursed amulet of inaccuracy for 22 gold pieces 6694 | D:6 | Found Souwudou's Magical Wand Emporium. 7049 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 7049 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/52 MP: 15/15 7204 | D:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Hexes 7227 | D:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Invisibility 7390 | D:6 | Found Ykiffez's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 7397 | D:6 | Found Keupucua's Book Emporium. 7520 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 8017 | D:7 | Reached skill level 12 in Hexes 8195 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 8204 | D:7 | the staircase to the Ecumenical Temple was a mimic. 8375 | D:7 | Reached skill level 13 in Hexes 8550 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Hexes 8866 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 54/57 MP: 11/16 9767 | D:8 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 9771 | D:8 | Killed Prince Ribbit 9771 | D:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Hexes 10328 | D:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Hexes 12136 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 63/63 MP: 14/18 12269 | D:9 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 12286 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12360 | D:8 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 12363 | D:8 | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin 12901 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations 12901 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 13094 | D:9 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 13326 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 13489 | Orc:1 | Found Pnuckaott's Assorted Antiques. 14268 | Orc:1 | Bought a glowing dwarven buckler for 93 gold pieces 14352 | D:6 | Bought the ring "Qomit" {rF+ rC+ Dam+4} for 521 gold pieces 14509 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14729 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 14864 | D:10 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 15502 | D:10 | Acquired Ashenzari's first power 15622 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 15629 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 15629 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 9/22 15713 | Orc:2 | Noticed Psyche 15714 | Orc:2 | Killed Psyche 16178 | Orc:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 16223 | Orc:3 | Identified the +2 animal skin of Offu {+Blink Curse} (You found it on level 3 of the Orcish Mines) 16548 | Orc:2 | Noticed Eustachio 16551 | Orc:2 | Killed Eustachio 16718 | D:6 | Bought an uncursed ring of protection from magic for 275 gold pieces 16864 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 26 gold pieces 17003 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 17008 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 17244 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 17245 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 17253 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 17264 | D:11 | Noticed Vorless' ghost (powerful LOFi) 17272 | D:11 | Killed Vorless' ghost 17505 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 18338 | D:12 | Identified the ring of Kasus {Hunger- Dex+1 Int+3 Acc+6} 18551 | D:12 | Acquired Ashenzari's second power 18639 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 18931 | D:12 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 19186 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 19250 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Freezing Aura 19460 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 19891 | Lair:1 | Acquired Ashenzari's third power 19903 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 74/74 MP: 12/23 20807 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 22007 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 22157 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Hexes 22415 | Lair:3 | Acquired Ashenzari's fourth power 22705 | Lair:4 | Noticed Fannar 22709 | Lair:4 | Killed Fannar 22849 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 22849 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 22851 | Lair:4 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 22851 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 22874 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 87/87 MP: 14/24 24843 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 24892 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1). [mutagenic glow] 25346 | Lair:4 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2477-geaae114 to 0.13-a0-2484-gc765b08 26763 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 18 in Hexes 27878 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 28281 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 28305 | Lair:7 | Found a dark tunnel. 28315 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 29207 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight 30116 | Lair:7 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 100/100 MP: 22/29 30569 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 31174 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 26 gold pieces 31991 | D:6 | Bought a manual of Stealth for 1214 gold pieces 32360 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness 32383 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32748 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 33228 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 33586 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 33845 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 34083 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 34084 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 34553 | D:13 | Noticed Maurice 34563 | D:13 | Killed Maurice 34563 | D:13 | Identified a cloak of preservation (You took it off Maurice on level 13 of the Dungeon) 35066 | D:13 | Noticed a hill giant 35071 | D:13 | Killed a hill giant 35379 | D:13 | Noticed Urug 35388 | D:13 | Killed Urug 35388 | D:13 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 35395 | D:13 | Noticed Josephine 35412 | D:13 | Killed Josephine 35942 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 35999 | D:14 | Found Khepnagh's Book Shop. 36060 | D:14 | Noticed Nergalle 36358 | D:6 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 330 gold pieces 36517 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 36532 | Orc:4 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 106/106 MP: 26/30 36562 | Orc:4 | Noticed Ellick's ghost (powerful KoHe) 36568 | Orc:4 | Killed Ellick's ghost 36801 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 37060 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 37436 | Orc:3 | Noticed Donald 37449 | Orc:3 | Killed Donald 37948 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 37948 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc warlord 37985 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc warlord 37989 | Orc:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 37992 | Orc:4 | Found Ypraobli's Jewellery Boutique. 38173 | Orc:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 38740 | Orc:4 | Killed Blork the orc 39125 | Orc:4 | Found Alur's Antique Armour Boutique. 39136 | Orc:4 | Found Psaludi's General Store. 39282 | Orc:4 | Found Fifis' Antique Weapon Boutique. 39300 | Orc:4 | Noticed Erolcha 39310 | Orc:4 | Noticed Nudhul's ghost (powerful MiBe) 39312 | Orc:4 | Killed Erolcha 39318 | Orc:4 | Killed Nudhul's ghost 39358 | Orc:4 | Noticed Harold 39370 | Orc:4 | Killed Harold 39491 | Orc:4 | Bought a pair of boots for 42 gold pieces 40750 | D:14 | Bought a book of Minor Magic for 320 gold pieces 40989 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 42503 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 42802 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 43604 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 44631 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 45452 | Swamp:3 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 105/113 MP: 27/32 46928 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 47225 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp 49033 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 49251 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest 49587 | Spider:1 | Noticed Nessos 49587 | Spider:1 | Killed Nessos 50010 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 50222 | Spider:1 | Noticed Rupert 50224 | Spider:1 | Killed Rupert 50774 | Spider:2 | Noticed Wiglaf 50775 | Spider:2 | Killed Wiglaf 51285 | Spider:2 | Noticed Kirke 51587 | D:14 | Bought a book of Conjurations for 480 gold pieces 51599 | D:14 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 51649 | D:14 | Killed Nergalle 51975 | Spider:2 | Killed Kirke 53163 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 53947 | Spider:4 | Noticed Arachne 54544 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 110/119 MP: 26/34 54724 | Spider:4 | Killed Arachne 55312 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55318 | Spider:4 | Noticed jejorda2's illusion 55321 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55321 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara 55360 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic 56022 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 56349 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 56386 | D:14 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 56608 | D:6 | Bought a book of Frost for 385 gold pieces 56614 | D:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle 56722 | Orc:4 | Bought the ring of Carodeg {MR Str+2 Dam+4} for 683 gold pieces 56722 | Orc:4 | Bought the amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ MR++} for 583 gold pieces 57483 | D:15 | Noticed Maud 57509 | D:15 | Killed Maud 59424 | D:15 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic 59666 | D:16 | Found Fulukor's Antique Weapon Shop. 60757 | D:17 | Found Zuyluuwna's Food Boutique. 61421 | D:16 | Noticed Agnes 61427 | D:16 | Killed Agnes 62071 | D:18 | Noticed Roxanne 62865 | D:18 | Identified the +2,+10 spear of Xom's Brutal Revenge {freeze, Int+1} 63373 | D:18 | Noticed Azrael 63479 | D:18 | Killed Azrael 63913 | D:18 | Noticed Frances 63913 | D:18 | Killed Frances 64688 | D:19 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 120/120 MP: 18/36 67123 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 67476 | D:20 | Noticed Jory 67481 | D:20 | Killed Jory 67481 | D:20 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 67938 | D:20 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 68032 | D:20 | Noticed Sojobo 69359 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 70757 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Cold 71358 | Elf:2 | Noticed Aizul 71358 | Elf:2 | Killed Aizul 73122 | Elf:2 | Noticed Saint Roka 73130 | Elf:2 | Killed Saint Roka 73130 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 73521 | D:6 | Bought a book of Beasts for 605 gold pieces 73524 | D:6 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 73697 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls 74474 | Elf:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 75098 | Elf:3 | Noticed Jorgrun 75117 | Elf:3 | Killed Jorgrun 75725 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 134/134 MP: 37/37 76248 | Spider:4 | Killed Mara 76248 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 76591 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest 80221 | D:21 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 80580 | D:20 | Killed Sojobo 81557 | Spider:5 | Noticed Xtahua 81564 | Spider:5 | Killed Xtahua 81930 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot 82561 | D:20 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2484-gc765b08 to 0.13-a0-2488-g1078ce8 83205 | D:21 | Found a gateway to Hell. 83812 | D:22 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss. 84192 | D:22 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 148/148 MP: 35/38 85575 | D:22 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 86803 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 87077 | Vaults:1 | Identified the cursed -4,-2 crossbow "Xooreoj" {speed, rF+ rC+} 88449 | D:20 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 88838 | D:6 | Bought the Catalogue of Flight for 495 gold pieces 88851 | D:6 | Learned a level 5 spell: Silence 90060 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Louise 90346 | Vaults:1 | Killed Louise 93789 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 160/160 MP: 35/40 95894 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting 97505 | Vaults:3 | Identified the cursed -2,-2 whip "Ghuboamey" {venom, rC+ Str+4 Dex+4} 97998 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Enchanted Forest. 98006 | Vaults:3 | Found Kloehu's Book Boutique. 98055 | Vaults:3 | Found Riett's Weapon Boutique. 98090 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 98893 | Vaults:3 | Identified the +2 ring mail of the Griffon {Int-1 Acc+5 Stlth+} 99073 | Vaults:3 | Found Quifuc's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 100445 | Vaults:4 | Found Kuipnum's Book Emporium. 100676 | Vaults:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 102856 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 103730 | Blade | Entered the Hall of Blades 103772 | Blade | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging 103952 | Blade | Reached XP level 22. HP: 166/166 MP: 41/41 104663 | Forest:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Enchanted Forest 104973 | Forest:1 | Noticed Margery 104981 | Forest:1 | Killed Margery 105460 | Forest:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic 109972 | Forest:2 | Noticed Mennas 109976 | Forest:2 | Killed Mennas 110338 | Forest:2 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 112901 | Forest:3 | HP: 6/165 [spriggan air mage/bolt of lightning (36)] Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 90 | 89 | 370 | 650 | 998 | 1249 | 1320 | 580 || 5346 Throw: Dart | 4 | | | | | 1 | 3 | 2 || 10 Javelin | | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | | || 9 Cast: Corona | 11 | 1 | | | | | | || 12 Ensorcelled Hiber | 17 | 45 | 142 | 94 | 99 | 68 | 25 | 4 || 494 Confuse | | 3 | 19 | 10 | 67 | 97 | 83 | 18 || 297 Invisibility | | | 8 | 42 | 81 | 111 | 124 | 36 || 402 Passwall | | | | 14 | 13 | 83 | 24 | || 134 Flight | | | | | 38 | 65 | 6 | 26 || 135 Repel Missiles | | | | | 2 | 29 | 103 | 23 || 157 Dazzling Spray | | | | | | 139 | 212 | 123 || 474 Swiftness | | | | | | 27 | 22 | 6 || 55 Blink | | | | | | 10 | 9 | 5 || 24 Throw Icicle | | | | | | 29 | 71 | 22 || 122 Haste | | | | | | 1 | 2 | 2 || 5 Bolt of Cold | | | | | | | 27 | 11 || 38 Silence | | | | | | | | 4 || 4 Invok: Scrying | | | | | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 || 6 Abil: Bottle Blood | | 2 | 33 | 36 | 58 | 61 | 66 | 32 || 288 End Transformatio | | | 2 | | 2 | | | || 4 Bat Form | | | 2 | | 2 | | | || 4 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 1 | || 13 Miscellaneous | | | | | | 1 | | 2 || 3 Use: Potion | 1 | | 10 | 14 | 35 | 55 | 31 | 22 || 168 Scroll | | 15 | 11 | 12 | 17 | 26 | 13 | 5 || 99 Stab: Sleeping | 25 | 45 | 109 | 255 | 357 | 354 | 315 | 51 || 1511 Confused | | 1 | 12 | 3 | 29 | 41 | 29 | 3 || 118 Distracted | | | 2 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 1 || 18 Invisible | | | 20 | 78 | 137 | 241 | 259 | 56 || 791 Paralysed | | | | 1 | | | | || 1 Held in net/web | | | | | | 2 | | || 2

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 03:54 by jejorda2

Well, that was dumb. I found Tomb, and I figured I'd work on that while there were still levels full of blood that I could go harvest as needed. I'd been blinding Sphinxes with Dazzling Spray, but I couldn't get a pack of them blind fast enough to stab them before they smote me.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 04:16 by Amnesiac

I think their MR is quite low, so confuse might have done better. Fighting a lot of smiters at once is not a good idea anyway.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 06:55 by Sandman25

jejorda2 wrote:I could trade my +3 dwarven buckler for a +0 elven buckler of fire resistance, but I'm not sure it's worth the scrolls right now.

Never enchant shields unless you have nothing else to enchant, it does not increase AC, it increases comparatively useless SH.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 08:35 by le_nerd

Yes, being under Silence gives a stealth penalty. The idea is that with both Darkness and Silence all monsters which do see you are unable to shout. With only darkness and silence "per demand" one stupid shouting elf will wake up the the whole vault; thats really sub-optimal.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 12:21 by jejorda2

Sandman25 wrote:
jejorda2 wrote:I could trade my +3 dwarven buckler for a +0 elven buckler of fire resistance, but I'm not sure it's worth the scrolls right now.

Never enchant shields unless you have nothing else to enchant, it does not increase AC, it increases comparatively useless SH.

I was worried about scrolls of curse armor, not scrolls of enchant armour. I didn't want to lose the Ash bonus to stealth and dodging. I'd found the buckler already enchanted.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 12:26 by Sandman25

jejorda2 wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:
jejorda2 wrote:I could trade my +3 dwarven buckler for a +0 elven buckler of fire resistance, but I'm not sure it's worth the scrolls right now.

Never enchant shields unless you have nothing else to enchant, it does not increase AC, it increases comparatively useless SH.

I was worried about scrolls of curse armor, not scrolls of enchant armour. I didn't want to lose the Ash bonus to stealth and dodging. I'd found the buckler already enchanted.

I see. You didn't need the buckler much indeed

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 13:32 by Lasty

For future reference, being stealthy in the Abyss is very good, since you attract way less attention and have a decent chance of escaping from the majority of threatening or troublesome stuff before it notices you.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 18:08 by Siegurt

The thing to use silence for as a stabber is to avoid melee combat noise and shouting and of course spellcasting of the naughty critters as well.

Silence is good to cast if something is *already* awake, and you're just going to beat it up, that way you can do so without waking the rest of the level.

I've never successfully snuck up on something under the influence of silence, it might be impossible.

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 15:33 by mikee

jejorda2 wrote:I had ~8 dodging and fighting at XL15, at the end of lair, and dodging was boosted to 11 by Ash. I decided to put more XP into stealth because I had a manual, and not much is waking up to test my EV.

Is 8 fighting and dodging lower than you would recommend on a stabber at XL15? Of what I trained, I guess the charms for haste or the high levels of hexes for EH spell power would be what one would sacrifice for increased fighting/dodging, or is there something else that I have overtrained?

Yes, that is in fact lower than I would recommend on virtually every xl 15 character. 21 hexes at any point in the game is pretty crazy, and getting that *while in lair* is much more so. Think about it this way: you trained a skill to 21 so that you could reach 50 spellpower on a level 2 spell. Getting haste castable is more reasonable, although personally I would not get it that early (potions exist, and a weak character that can become 150% as fast is not necessarily better than a strong character at 100% speed).

Around the end of lair, my skills would probably look something like this: 10 fighting, 10 short blades, 5 shields, 14-16 dodging, 14-16 stealth, 10 spellcasting, 11 hexes, 1 ice magic. It's nice to have a character that's well-rounded like this. It's cost efficient to make, you have more options, and you are less vulnerable in emergencies.

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