Brainless Bug?

[hopelessDelvder]

This char was brainless for a long time with a very low INT. I was surprrised that didn't kill me. I have stayed Brainless with a positive INT for 1000's of turns. I suspect this is a bug, but I dunno much about Brainlessness. Is it theoretically possible to be brainless with a positive int for 2000+ turns?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2910-g7a74111 (webtiles) character file.

zercules the Bludgeoner (Lava Orc Berserker)       Turns: 12277, Time: 01:59:25

HP  86/92        AC 26     Str 25      XL: 12   Next: 16%
MP   9/9         EV 12     Int 13      God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 895         SH 11     Dex 10      Spells:  0 memorised, 11 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .   R - +1 morningstar (curse)
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   l - +2 plate armour
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   u - +0 buckler
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   (no helmet)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   p - +1 cloak of Negligence {rPois Int+4}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   y - +0 pair of gloves
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   i - +1 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   (no amulet)
Saprovore : + . .                    o - ring of protection from magic
                                     g - +6 ring of evasion

@: lost intelligence, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: conserve scrolls, fast metabolism 1, -10% mp, saprovore 1, Int +2
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 13 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 15 of its levels.

You have collected 875 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 h - a +5,+3 whip of electrocution
 m - a +0,+4 mace of holy wrath
 q - a +1,+3 orcish flail
 L - an uncursed sling of flame {god gift}
 R - a cursed +1,+1 morningstar (weapon)
Missiles
 M - 8 curare-tipped needles
Armour
 a - the -1 pair of gloves of Ymo Tiff {+Fly}
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It lets you fly.
 i - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
 l - a +2 plate armour (worn)
 p - the +1 cloak of Negligence (worn) {rPois Int+4}
   (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from poison.
 u - a +0 buckler (worn)
 y - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 f - a wand of fire {empty}
 n - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 4}
 Q - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 c - 4 meat rations
 E - 6 beef jerkies
 J - 10 grapes
 S - a pear
Scrolls
 b - 4 scrolls labeled SADUH OPNUEXO
 e - 6 scrolls of identify
 j - 2 scrolls labeled PHYMME ZIENWOTT
 k - 3 scrolls labeled FIERHI QOCI {tried on runed pearl ring}
 s - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 w - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 A - 4 scrolls of enchant weapon I
 B - a scroll of fog
 F - 3 scrolls of fear
 G - 2 scrolls labeled STOSARO VOSUQ
 H - a scroll labeled YHEESTRUNAD
 N - a scroll labeled YQIOROPNAG
Jewellery
 g - a +6 ring of evasion (left hand)
 o - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 t - a cursed ring of flight
 z - a small sapphire ring
 C - a jade ring
 D - a ruby ring
 O - a dented beryl amulet
 P - a silver ring
Potions
 d - 2 potions of speed
 r - 5 potions of heal wounds
 v - 4 potions of curing
 I - a potion of might
 K - a potion of restore abilities


   Skills:
 - Level 3.6 Fighting
 + Level 17.8 Maces & Flails
 - Level 8.3 Armour
 - Level 1.5 Dodging
 - Level 7.7 Shields


You have 11 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (13/27)            Temple (0/1) D:6             Orc (2/4) D:8
   Lair (0/8) D:12       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Elyvilon
Trog
Yredelemnul

Shops:
D:5 [

Annotations:
Orc:1 exclusion: orange crystal statue, Blork the orc, Grum


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have stony skin.
You cover ground slowly.
Your flesh is heat resistant.
Your flesh is vulnerable to cold.
Your heat harms attackers.
You bathe your surroundings in blazing heat.
You are too hot to use scrolls.
You are very good at protecting items from fire.
You can tolerate rotten meat.
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
You have a fast metabolism.
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).


Message History

You thump the vampire mosquito!
The vampire mosquito is severely damaged.
The vampire mosquito bites you.
The vampire mosquito draws strength from your injuries!
You impale the vampire mosquito!!
You destroy the vampire mosquito!
No target in view!
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You almost manage to decipher the scroll, but fail in this attempt.
You see here a vampire mosquito corpse.
You start resting.
Your skin cools and hardens.
Char dumped successfully.
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, zercules the Lava Orc Berserker.
Trog says: Kill them all!
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Harold (D:10)
  A hydra (D:12)
  Erica (D:11)
  A hill giant (D:13)
  A feature mimic (D:13)
  Psyche (Orc:1)
  A fire drake (D:12)
  Grinder (D:4)
  A troll (D:11)
  A spectral orc (D:11)
  4 slime creatures (D:12)
  A shark (D:10)
  16 yaks
  2 ugly things (D:13)
  Eustachio (D:4)
  A hill giant zombie (D:12)
  2 hippogriffs (D:10)
  A vampire mosquito (D:13)
  A manticore (D:12)
  4 hungry ghosts
  A necrophage (D:10)
  2 sky beasts
  8 orc warriors
  A giant goldfish (D:10)
  4 phantoms
  An ice beast (D:13)
  10 centaurs
  5 ogres
  The ghost of duckroller the Twirler, an average GrGl (D:3)
  A big kobold (D:12)
  A warg (Orc:2)
  4 giant frogs
  A manticore skeleton (D:13)
  A troll zombie (D:8)
  21 wights
  A jellyfish (D:10)
  An eye of draining (D:5)
  20 killer bees
  2 troll skeletons
  A vampire bat (Orc:1)
  5 crimson imps
  3 goliath beetles
  2 jellies
  A basilisk zombie (D:12)
  10 orc priests
  A centaur skeleton (D:4)
  2 giant frog skeletons
  10 hounds
  A soldier ant zombie (D:12)
  3 scorpions
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:6)
  11 orc wizards
  An iguana (D:5)
  5 worker ants
  5 ogre zombies (D:8)
  A killer bee zombie (D:10)
  A mottled dragon zombie (D:12)
  Ijyb (D:6)
  Terence (D:3)
  12 adders
  A giant centipede (D:13)
  5 gnolls
  A lemure (D:4)
  A worm zombie (D:8)
  A giant mite (D:3)
  A worm (D:2)
  2 ufetubi (D:4)
  An iguana zombie (D:5)
  A giant eyeball (D:4)
  4 giant geckos
  63 orcs
  A bat zombie (D:6)
  7 giant cockroaches
  10 hobgoblins
  7 quokkas
  2 ball pythons (D:1)
  24 bats
  6 giant newts
  13 goblins
  2 goblin skeletons
  4 hobgoblin zombies (D:8)
  20 kobolds
  2 orc skeletons (D:8)
  12 orc zombies (D:8)
  A quokka skeleton (D:5)
  A quokka zombie (D:6)
  9 rats
  2 ballistomycetes
411 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Nergalle (D:11)
  An orc knight (Orc:2)
  A troll (Orc:2)
  3 ugly things (D:13)
  2 wolves (Orc:2)
  An orc warrior (Orc:2)
  A big kobold (D:13)
  A warg (Orc:2)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:11)
  An orc priest (Orc:2)
  3 orc wizards (Orc:2)
  5 spectral orcs (D:11)
  4 gnolls (D:11)
  3 orcs (Orc:2)
  3 kobolds (D:13)
31 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 giant spores
2 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 444 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | zercules, the Lava Orc Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   111 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/26 MP: 1/1
   237 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
   317 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   966 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 20/33 MP: 2/2
  1749 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 34/39 MP: 3/3
  2217 | D:3      | Noticed duckroller's ghost (average GrGl)
  2243 | D:3      | Killed duckroller's ghost
  2243 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  2243 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/46 MP: 4/4
  2750 | D:3      | Noticed Terence
  2755 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  2755 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  2755 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 50/52 MP: 5/5
  2757 | D:3      | Killed Terence
  3136 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  3153 | D:4      | Killed Eustachio
  3153 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 55/59 MP: 6/6
  3265 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  3284 | D:4      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
  3303 | D:4      | Acquired Trog's third power
  3326 | D:4      | Noticed Grinder
  3332 | D:4      | Killed Grinder
  3378 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  3416 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 38/66 MP: 7/7
  3583 | D:4      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  3586 | D:4      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  3589 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  3779 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3936 | D:5      | Found Smuasiq's Armour Shoppe.
  4229 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  4408 | D:6      | Noticed Ijyb
  4414 | D:6      | Killed Ijyb
  4634 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4646 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  5188 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  5575 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 72/72 MP: 8/8
  5626 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  5695 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  5713 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  5864 | D:8      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  6337 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  6571 | Orc:1    | Noticed Psyche
  6578 | Orc:1    | Noticed Grum
  6580 | Orc:1    | Noticed Blork the orc
  6585 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  6598 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc knight
  6611 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc knight
  6874 | Orc:1    | Killed Psyche
  6874 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 10. HP: 71/79 MP: 9/9
  6901 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
  7131 | Orc:1    | Lost intelligence.
  7206 | Orc:1    | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 7 turns
  7217 | Orc:1    | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation]
  7217 | Orc:1    | Gained mutation: You have a fast metabolism. [potion of mutation]
  7217 | Orc:1    | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of mutation]
  7445 | D:9      | Got a pair of bloodstained gloves
  7451 | D:9      | Identified the cursed -1 pair of gloves of Ymo Tiff {+Fly} (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
  7493 | D:9      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  7559 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7577 | D:10     | Noticed Harold
  7596 | D:10     | Killed Harold
  8054 | D:10     | Got an ichor-stained cloak
  8060 | D:10     | Identified the +1 cloak of Negligence {rPois Int+4} (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
  8146 | D:10     | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
  8543 | D:10     | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2899-gc7fce8a to 0.13-a0-2907-g70ca29e
  8613 | D:11     | Noticed Erica
  8741 | D:11     | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2907-g70ca29e to 0.13-a0-2910-g7a74111
  8892 | D:11     | Killed Erica
  8892 | D:11     | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
  9530 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
  9572 | D:11     | Noticed Nergalle
  9584 | D:11     | Killed Nergalle
  9584 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 84/84 MP: 9/9
 10125 | D:12     | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 10420 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10489 | D:12     | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 10504 | D:12     | Killed a five-headed hydra
 10636 | D:12     | Reached skill level 16 in Maces & Flails
 11434 | D:13     | Reached skill level 17 in Maces & Flails
 11506 | D:13     | Noticed a hill giant
 11518 | D:13     | Killed a hill giant
 11518 | D:13     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 35/92 MP: 9/9


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
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Melee: Mace              |   121 |       |       |    73 ||   194
       Whip              |     9 |   101 |   424 |   597 ||  1131
       Flail             |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Morningstar       |       |       |       |    58 ||    58
Throw: Dagger            |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Invok: Berserk           |     1 |       |     3 |     6 ||    10
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |     2 |     1 ||     3
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |     1 |     3 ||     4
Evoke: Wand              |       |     1 |     2 |     2 ||     5
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     3 |    10 |     2 ||    22
       Potion            |       |       |     1 |    13 ||    14
 Stab: Invisible         |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |     1 ||     1


[Sandman25]

Being brainless makes you suffer some damage in trunk, it does not instantly kill you after 90 turns as it was in 0.12.

[hopelessDelvder]

I get that, but the conditions for recovering are that i'm positive INT for some degree of time. However, I currently have 13 INT and have had positive INT for 1000's of turns. Which is a long time to be running around slowed(? - am I, I'm supposed to be but I don't have the status effect) and with 80% scroll failure. This is a terrible status effect if it takes this long to recover.

[neil]

How long did you spend with your int at zero? Every turn with a zero stat adds one more turn of recovery.

[hopelessDelvder]

I spent a long time @ -4, I can't tell how much, but I've been fine for 7000+ turns. THe game is only 19000 so I could not have spent more than 5000 turns negative INT and I really doubt I spent that long. Is there a way to tell?

[BlackSheep]

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  7131 | Orc:1    | Lost intelligence.

What drained you? Equipment?

[hopelessDelvder]

orange crystal statue - i almost had it dead

[hopelessDelvder]

just cleared lair in its entirety with a 13 INT and Brainless status. am i permanently brainless?

[neil]

You did indeed find a bug. It turns out we were saving the recovery time as a signed byte... so if you saved with a recovery time between 128 and 255, or between 384 and 511, etc., it would be negative on restore and never go away. On the plus side, although you suffered most of the effects of brainlessness you didn't have the half-speed, because that checked >0 instead of nonzero.

Fixed in trunk (0.13-a0-2925-g7150391). Now the recovery time is capped at 200 turns, and the negative numbers are corrected to positive on load. Once you load your save with the new version (if it's online, let me know which server and I can push an update), you will have between 128 and 255 turns of recovery left, depending on exactly what negative number was saved. You will be half-speed until that happens.

Edit: Oh, I see that you died Condolences.

[hopelessDelvder]

Thanks, yeah I didn't seem particularly slow, but the status effect in learndb says I would be slowed and my movements were very slow when I pressed '@'

Yeah, I died pretty carelessly, the 'Brainless' problem extends to the person on the keyboard, so this was a very immersive crawl game. I'm glad I found a bug though.