Crawl scoring page stoped updating on 13/03


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Lair Larrikin

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Post Wednesday, 16th March 2016, 16:03

Crawl scoring page stoped updating on 13/03

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html - recent wins 13/03.
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/per-day.html - last date is 13/03 .
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/recent.html = 0.
Is this normal?What's going to happen to the games(some of them won) played in the period scoring is not updating?
For example I won this http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/NicuTudor/morgue-NicuTudor-20160315-203928.txt and is not been added to my score page.
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Post Wednesday, 16th March 2016, 16:15

Don't worry, this happens from time to time. The games are saved no matter if you can see them. I'm not familiar with the server(s) and I don't know why this happens but up to now having patience was always enough to "solve" the problem.

Also, I found your game on ##crawl:

!lg NicuTudor win
<Sequell> 9. NicuTudor the Black Sun (L27 NaNe of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-03-15 20:39:28, with 1540309 points after 84626 turns and 16:12:05.

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Post Wednesday, 16th March 2016, 16:28

Re: Crawl scoring page stoped updating on 13/03

Thank you for the quick answer.So I can continue playing and the games will be added to the score page when things get back to normal.

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Post Monday, 21st March 2016, 04:59

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the dream is dead

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Post Monday, 21st March 2016, 05:06

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Dreemurr wrote:the dream is dead
just like you
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Post Tuesday, 22nd March 2016, 14:44

Re: Crawl scoring page stoped updating on 13/03

An update:

Scoring crashed on the 13th because it encountered a non-ASCII death message and the HTML rendering templates were not configured to handle that. I think I've fixed that problem.

I am now doing a full rebuild of the scoring database, which should fix the games that have gone missing over the past couple of years. It should finish in a couple of days.

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Post Tuesday, 22nd March 2016, 15:14

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Thank you. I'm happy that you resolved the issue. Not being able to see our scores is a bit frustrating for bad players like me.

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Post Wednesday, 23rd March 2016, 11:59

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Thank you for the feedback and the fixing :).
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Post Wednesday, 23rd March 2016, 12:48

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Looks like the import died in the middle because of a bad line in a downloaded milestone file. So I will have to clean those up, then it will be a few more days.
Last edited by neil on Wednesday, 23rd March 2016, 12:58, edited 1 time in total.

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Post Wednesday, 23rd March 2016, 12:52

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neil: You should receive the honorary title of Scoring Sisyphus! :)

Lair Larrikin

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Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 23:20

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oh good progress, was it really the 13th? felt like it had been down all month, i thought everyone just stopped caring. godspeed to you.

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Post Friday, 25th March 2016, 01:08

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He's actually lying, he's just going to keep making a new excuse every few days to keep stringing you along. It's a social experiment on gullibility.
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Post Monday, 28th March 2016, 08:41

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It is just a maneuver that forces everobydy to lean how to irc!

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Post Thursday, 31st March 2016, 22:59

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Post Friday, 1st April 2016, 04:09

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So, did anyone else go through their games in the last three weeks and crunch the numbers to see how it will affect their overall score?

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Post Sunday, 3rd April 2016, 16:21

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No, I didn't. And I didn't learn how to use the IRC commands. But yes, I guess, telling us that the scoring table would get fixed was some kind of social experiment.

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Post Wednesday, 6th April 2016, 13:01

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It appears to be updated now http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html

with a new all-time high score

And Charly's high score game too.

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Post Wednesday, 6th April 2016, 13:34

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As far as i can tell individual player tables are still not updating.
if this is really coming together finally im impressed, i thought for sure we'd hit the full month milestone because (it seemed) noone gave a shit to fix it.

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Post Wednesday, 6th April 2016, 15:45

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Well, one possibility might be that that fixing it is something that takes volunteer developers actual time and effort, on top of the fact that, as neil said, rebuilding the scoring database then also takes multiple days. But yes, the likely truth is definitely that nobody cares and it was all a big social experiment to see how you'd cope without your all-important Crawl scores.

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Post Wednesday, 6th April 2016, 16:16

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Dreemurr wrote:if this is really coming together finally im impressed, i thought for sure we'd hit the full month milestone because (it seemed) noone gave a shit to fix it.
if you read posts above you would see that neil actually cared to fix it

thank you neil on your effort to make us happy, thumbs up
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Post Wednesday, 6th April 2016, 17:07

Re: Crawl scoring page stoped updating on 13/03

Individual tables should be updating normally now. The first update after the daemon restarts always takes some time to run, and I started the daemon slightly before Dreemurr's post.

It would probably be a good idea to rewrite the scoring system: there's no real reason for reloading the tables to take 20 hours on about 8.5 GiB of data, and there are still bugs related to logfile offsets when a transaction is aborted (which mean lost games whenever the daemon is killed in the middle of an update). Patches welcome!

I also wouldn't mind someone taking over maintenance of scoring on their own server (CAO isn't mine to grant access to). Having it share a database with Sequell would make sense, but I think greensnark has even less time for maintaining these things than I do.

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Post Wednesday, 6th April 2016, 21:05

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Thank you again, neil. I really appreciate your effort and work.

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Post Thursday, 7th April 2016, 11:50

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doesn't neil also own/maintain the physical servers crawl runs on? seems he already has his hands full it's too bad no-one else helped him..
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Post Thursday, 7th April 2016, 14:32

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Dreemurr wrote:doesn't neil also own/maintain the physical servers crawl runs on? seems he already has his hands full it's too bad no-one else helped him..


Only CSZO (which I rent rather than own). I help out with CAO but rax pays for it.

The biggest problem here is that approximately 1.3 people understand the scoring daemon, and I am 0.3 of those people. The other 1.0 is the scoring author, greensnark (one of the founders of the DCSS project), who does not have much time to contribute to Crawl these days.

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Post Thursday, 7th April 2016, 15:42

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only for CSZO? Damn, i would have figured you could run several DCSS servers off of 8x E3-1230's. Guess it's more demanding than i thought. I actually thought that hardware was for s-z + berotato cause they were both in the same state lol

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Post Monday, 11th April 2016, 08:11

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Thank you,Neil.

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