Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!


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Post Friday, 20th September 2013, 14:39

Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

So last night I discovered that in the latest builds, Scroll of Immolation gives Inner Flame to every enemy in LOS. I love this.

After discovering it, I found myself at low health running from a pack of yaks flanked by vampire mosquitoes. I didn't have the power to stop and fight them, and I couldn't outrun them, so I read the scroll, tossed a Venom Bolt on the yak behind the front mosquito, and stepped away in time for the yak detonation to kill the mosquito -- and since I stepped away, the front mosquito's chain explosion didn't catch me. The trailing cloud of flame prevented the rear mosquitoes from chasing me, and I ran to safety.

This is a really fun and interesting tactical consumable.

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Post Friday, 20th September 2013, 15:25

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Vaults:$ + Immolation + Shatter/Tornado = "Xom roars with laughter"
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Post Friday, 20th September 2013, 16:50

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This sounds a lot more interesting and suicidal than the current one which just goes poof and takes 10 hp off. :D
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Post Saturday, 21st September 2013, 00:44

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Inner Flame is the best spell. Also, I finally beat my second 15-runer today, of 3 full wins overall. LOFi, never memorized Inner Flame.
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Post Saturday, 21st September 2013, 04:17

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

Can't immolate the water elemental in 10 runes challenge anymore though, that's a shame.

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Post Sunday, 22nd September 2013, 01:10

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

1. wield an axe
2. surround yourself with rats
3. read a scroll of immolation
4. ???
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Post Sunday, 22nd September 2013, 09:58

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

Does ?immolation, in principle at least, also Inner Flame the player?
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Post Sunday, 22nd September 2013, 13:26

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

If immolation Inner Flames allies, do they turn on you, or do they only turn on you if other allies are damaged by the Inner Flame from Inner Flame'd allies?
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Post Monday, 23rd September 2013, 16:01

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

Igxfl wrote:Does ?immolation, in principle at least, also Inner Flame the player?


As a felid, Inner Flame yourself right before death as a kamikaze tactic :P But only once you're in Dragon Form to make the explosion have some serious OOMPH behind it.
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Post Tuesday, 24th September 2013, 06:12

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

The scroll was very useful against a group of orcs, warriors, wizards and priests. It has much more utility than before.
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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 00:32

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I just blew up most of the Elf:3 vault with one of these. I think the autopickup should probably grab them now.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 00:56

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The blast doesn't hurt the player, or are the above players just highly resistant to fire and/or range attacking?

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 04:44

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I was with Yred, so it's basically

1) read scroll
2) run away
3) roast marshmallows

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 06:46

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

1. Read teleport scroll.
2. Read immolation.
3. Cast discord.

4. Um, plug your ears?
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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 09:02

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

Anyone else think Inner Flame the spell is useless now? It was only situationally useful before, and now for those situations you'll probably have the scroll available.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 13:53

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DracheReborn wrote:Anyone else think Inner Flame the spell is useless now? It was only situationally useful before, and now for those situations you'll probably have the scroll available.


I think Inner Flame is useful to CeAM - cast Inner Flame, start shooting (with Portal Projectile if necessary) at the monster, run away if no luck.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 13:55

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

You get a lot more casts of Inner Flame than reads of the scroll. I'd still memorize Inner Flame on the right characters. That said, I think the scroll should be auto-pickup.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 14:46

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

1) Scroll of immolation
2) Scroll of blinking
3) Scroll of summoning

The triple scroll combo, available for all.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 15:01

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I save scrolls of blinking for near death situations

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 16:46

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DracheReborn wrote:Anyone else think Inner Flame the spell is useless now? It was only situationally useful before, and now for those situations you'll probably have the scroll available.


I think Inner Flame is useful to CeAM - cast Inner Flame, start shooting (with Portal Projectile if necessary) at the monster, run away if no luck.

I actually use inner flame all the time as my regular damage do-er for a long time with my fire mages It's great with conjure flame and orcs (one kills an orc warrior pretty handily). It's even Ok with sticky flame as long as you have an easy way to get the heck out of dodge after stickying something.

It's also excellent with animate skeleton/dead (Which makes for a slow moving, cheap, powerful fireball)

If you're aware of how it works and don't kill yourself with it, it's a really awesome spell. Restricting it to scrolls only would suck.
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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 18:30

Re: Hooray for the new scroll of immolation!

Inner flame is a well designed spell: powerful, but potentially dangerous to the user. That's good. Spell should definitely be kept, and making immolation into "scroll of mass inner flame" really was a stroke of genius, as the old immolation scrolls were pretty damn pointless. Now, they aren't.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 18:34

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Of course, now the name doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But I do like the new scroll.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 20:17

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Why doesn't the name make sense? It does (generally) lead to fiery deaths, just not immediately.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 20:22

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The connotation is one of sacrifice. It's not really a sacrifice if you're doing it to someone else.

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Post Wednesday, 30th October 2013, 20:47

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That's not how Makhleb sees it. :D

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Post Saturday, 2nd November 2013, 14:51

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I think new immolation is scroll that should be on auto pick up!

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