Has XP gain been adjusted?
Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 05:54To compensate for the removal of stabbing and traps skills?
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Has XP gain been adjusted?
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Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 05:54Re: Has XP gain been adjusted?
Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 06:25Not specifically, but DracoOmega made some adjustments to the XP curve: http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/f54e3ca8c7a706449d143d9c9b8ccfc674668e1c
Re: Has XP gain been adjusted?
Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 06:26XP has been adjusted, but it has nothing to do with the removal of trap/stab skills. Traps skill doesn't matter at all, which is in fact why it has been removed.
Re: Has XP gain been adjusted?
Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 12:27What about being adjusted for Elf and Vaults being shorter? That drastically reduces the amount of XP available.
Also, hive being removed, but that's old stuff.
Also, hive being removed, but that's old stuff.
Re: Has XP gain been adjusted?
Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 13:24So is this table accurate now, or is the comment out of date?
Say I know I need to raise Ice or Conjurations to increase spellpower, but I don't know which one will go up quicker and should therefore be trained first. Ice has a 0 aptitude while Conj has -3, so 2^(3/4) is 1.68. Ice is at level 15, level 16 will cost 105,500xp. Level 14 of Conjurations will cost 81,480 (48,500*1.68) and Level 15 of Conjurations will cost 74,000*1.68=124,320 which is more than L16 of Ice. So each level of Conjurations is cheaper than the next level of Ice until L14, so I should train Conj to 14 then train Ice again.
I had a spreadsheet for this in 0.8, but the changes in aptitudes and experience values have thrown it off.
The table, from comments in player.cc:
Say I know I need to raise Ice or Conjurations to increase spellpower, but I don't know which one will go up quicker and should therefore be trained first. Ice has a 0 aptitude while Conj has -3, so 2^(3/4) is 1.68. Ice is at level 15, level 16 will cost 105,500xp. Level 14 of Conjurations will cost 81,480 (48,500*1.68) and Level 15 of Conjurations will cost 74,000*1.68=124,320 which is more than L16 of Ice. So each level of Conjurations is cheaper than the next level of Ice until L14, so I should train Conj to 14 then train Ice again.
I had a spreadsheet for this in 0.8, but the changes in aptitudes and experience values have thrown it off.
The table, from comments in player.cc:
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player.cc
4418 // Here's a table:
4419 //
4420 // level xp delta delta2
4421 // ===== ======= ===== ======
4422 // 1 0 0 0
4423 // 2 10 10 10
4424 // 3 30 20 10
4425 // 4 70 40 20
4426 // 5 140 70 30
4427 // 6 270 130 60
4428 // 7 520 250 120
4429 // 8 1010 490 240
4430 // 9 1980 970 480
4431 // 10 3910 1930 960
4432 // 11 7760 3850 1920
4433 // 12 15450 7690 3840
4434 // 13 29000 13550 5860
4435 // 14 48500 19500 5950
4436 // 15 74000 25500 6000
4437 // 16 105500 31500 6000
4438 // 17 143000 37500 6000
4439 // 18 186500 43500 6000
4440 // 19 236000 49500 6000
4441 // 20 291500 55500 6000
4442 // 21 353000 61500 6000
4443 // 22 420500 67500 6000
4444 // 23 494000 73500 6000
4445 // 24 573500 79500 6000
4446 // 25 659000 85500 6000
4447 // 26 750500 91500 6000
4448 // 27 848000 97500 6000
4449
Re: Has XP gain been adjusted?
Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 14:04AFAIK only the exp cost of skill points was adjusted, not the skill point cost of skill levels. So you should gain skills a little slower late game, but the increased cost affects all skills and skill levels uniformly. (Unless I missed something)
Re: Has XP gain been adjusted?
Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 15:05khalil wrote:What about being adjusted for Elf and Vaults being shorter? That drastically reduces the amount of XP available.
Also, hive being removed, but that's old stuff.
Well, that was one of the goal of the changes, to reduce total XP. So no compensation
Re: Has XP gain been adjusted?
Posted: Monday, 22nd July 2013, 15:52In particular, mid-game XP. Early game is plenty hard