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So, I was recently playing a VpEn and got Spider nest and was continually frustrated by Trapdoor spiders. My tactic for almost everything in spider was EH -> stab (or confuse ->stab) and consistantly (~%50 of the time) trap door spiders would 1. fall asleep 2. hide under the floor. 3. pop out from under the ground the very next turn and bite me and unable to EH'ed. the average time for things asleep when i EH'ed them was 5 turns (always >1) so the hiding has killed the enchantment. I'm not sure why this was happening. For what it's worth i've had some other odd encounters with trapdoor most notably poping out from under the ground while it was asleep (spawned asleep not EH), though that was some time ago. I'm on 0.13-a0392-g85ae4b4 that I built but I haven't touched anything to do with ENCH_* or monsters. Is this a bug or is it supposed to happen?

I've got nothing againts hiding under the ground, it is a good tactical suprise, just not when ive just put them to sleep.

thanks, it is annoying. Though nothing is going to beat the hilarity of "A trapdoor spider leaps out of its hiding place under the floor". Fast asleep. 'cept maybe torment immune ballpythons.

Shouldn't it be changed so that trapdoor spiders just stay asleep when they are affected by EH? From the sound of it, to me it seems like trapdoopr spiders burrow under the ground while being asleep and then somehow manages to unburrow to appear somewhere else.

We have very old bugs. Time doesn't magically turn them into features.


By whom? Has it been reported?


How can you think it's not a bug? Trapdoor spiders hiding when falling asleep is supposed to happen when they are wandering, not when they've just been put to sleep. It is a bug.

This reminds me that the interaction between trapdoor spiders and conjure flame is still weird. Currently, you can just lure the spider into the cloud and then press "." a couple of times until it dies. You won't take any damage while the flame is doing its job.

More than once.

The first issue was supposedly fixed. The second one is a separate issue, but the second comment mentions that trapdoor spiders hide after being hit with ME. As metabolic englaciation does not appear to make them hide, I assume this person meant EH.

I assume it was during the time where Metabolic Englaciation functioned as mass EH, as it is quite an old report.

Is the phenomenon of orb spiders taking an extra step after they get EH'd also a bug?

I thought it was an arachnid.

Just saying.