Spider branch

[jejorda2]

I love the orb spiders. I remember 4.1 being annoying when all animals fled at 70% health or whatever it was, but this is different because orb spiders have a ranged attack. And a slow ranged attack, at that, so I have real opportunities to do smart and dumb things with terrain.

I'd like to see an increased number and some variety of scorpions. Somehow elemental scorpions make more sense to me than elemental spiders, if elemental attacks are the best idea out there. And it would be swell if summon scorpions made more than one kind of ally.

I haven't thought to test whether flying avoids webs. If it does, then flying is the solution to terrain in swamp, shoals, and spider, which is not good. Either all webs can be placed higher, so they have a higher chance of catching (or a lower chance of releasing) a flying character than a walking one, or there can be different web types like high webs and low webs that work differently depending on whether you are levitating or not.

[Grimm]

Webs should be flammable.

[XuaXua]

Webs should be flammable.

I brought this up a while back and got yelled at because the reasoning is web silk is not flammable; real life webs burn because they're so thin, they can't do anything else.

[Jeremiah]

I'd like to see an increased number and some variety of scorpions. Somehow elemental scorpions make more sense to me than elemental spiders, if elemental attacks are the best idea out there. And it would be swell if summon scorpions made more than one kind of ally.

Turn fire crabs into fire scorpions and have them appear in Spider?

[BlackSheep]

Webs should be flammable.

I brought this up a while back and got yelled at because the reasoning is web silk is not flammable; real life webs burn because they're so thin, they can't do anything else.

That's more a semantic argument. Webs burning and webs shriveling to the point of uselessness from extreme heat are functionally identical in the context of the game.

[mageykun]

Webs should be flammable.

I brought this up a while back and got yelled at because the reasoning is web silk is not flammable; real life webs burn because they're so thin, they can't do anything else.

...considering the apparent size of most of the explosions and bolts in the game, I'd say the assuming the flame >> silk diameter is pretty safe. It would probably scale. (Although this kind of logic is silly, over-think it and we'll be back where we were with wax in the hive- a confusing selection of only certain fire attacks working). More generally, I'd say options to outright destroy traps / obstacles instead of fiddling with them until they disarm are interesting.

Turn fire crabs into fire scorpions and have them appear in Spider?

I'd say they'd fit right in without the rename. Crabs aren't quite as closely related to spiders as scorpions, but an arthropod's an arthropod.

[claws]

Orb spiders...do I seriously need to explain why introducing the single most ridiculed feature from 4.1 is a bad idea?

I was not aware that monsters that fire a semi-unique, terrain-deforming projectile that prompt movement in an open habitat that traps and surrounds players, as well as imperfectly attacking/walking in bursts, exclusively in a Lair branch, are just like (to take the most probelmatic of the example space) d:5 monsters firing generic projectiles with possible brands while always being faster then default/average characters. The innate behaviour of something maintaining range to attack from a distance is always worthless: Nessos should clearly be removed, too. Good to know.

[nicolae]

Webs should be flammable.

I brought this up a while back and got yelled at because the reasoning is web silk is not flammable; real life webs burn because they're so thin, they can't do anything else.

The reasoning I've read is that fire is already useful in many other contexts and letting it burn through webs would make it even more of a no-brainer.