Vaults for Labyrinth ending.

[Steel Neuron]

Not sure if this has been discussed before. Did a search and didn't find much so sorry if it has!

I won't get into whether or not Labyrinths are good for the game (I particularly like them, although I'd change them a little, but that's a story for another day). What bothers me a bit is how anti-climactic the end of the labyrinths are: with that I mean the encounter with the minotaur. The fact that all his loot is piled up atop the stairs in a minuscule 1 tile wide corridor saddens me a bit. Give the poor guy some space right? If my mythology doesn't fail me they are supposed to know the labyrinth a bit (at least the center since they always dwell on it) so it should be able to choose the coziest room to do his minotaur things.

So I wonder if it wouldn't mess too much with the generation algorithms to make a small vault for the minotaur to be in at the center of the labyrinth. It doesn't need much variability, I think one vault would do.

[rchandra]

there are several ending vaults for the labyrinth, of varying complexity. One that uses multiple piles has the minotaur near skeletons of previous visitors, and each of those skeletons has associated items in the tile with it (for example, the spriggan skeleton might have a good dagger or quick blade, the draconian a cloak, etc.). (these are skeletons as in corpse remains, not animated)

I think the ending with the 2-3 minotaur zombies has loot in the zombie rooms too, so a little better than just one pile.

[Steel Neuron]

there are several ending vaults for the labyrinth, of varying complexity. One that uses multiple piles has the minotaur near skeletons of previous visitors, and each of those skeletons has associated items in the tile with it (for example, the spriggan skeleton might have a good dagger or quick blade, the draconian a cloak, etc.). (these are skeletons as in corpse remains, not animated)

I think the ending with the 2-3 minotaur zombies has loot in the zombie rooms too, so a little better than just one pile.

Really? Wow, of the roughly 8 labyrinths I've done (I know it's not much) I haven't found a single ending vault, so I assumed there were none. Sorry! Is my case rare or are they simply not so common?

[mumra]

Which version did you play them in? The ending vaults might be a trunk addition.

[nicolae]

Which version did you play them in? The ending vaults might be a trunk addition.

Ending vaults in the lab have been around at least since 0.6, according to the old versions I have sitting around. I suspect that Steel Neuron was struck by that most nebulous of monsters, the Clustering Illusion.

[mumra]

that most nebulous of monsters, the Clustering Illusion.

That should totally be a thing in the abyss.

[Steel Neuron]

Which version did you play them in? The ending vaults might be a trunk addition.

Ending vaults in the lab have been around at least since 0.6, according to the old versions I have sitting around. I suspect that Steel Neuron was struck by that most nebulous of monsters, the Clustering Illusion.

I think I might have been hit by a different beast, because the entirety of my experience is finding NO vaults. After 8 labyrinths without one, I don't think it's an illusion but rather an unfortunate, actual clustering =P

[mumra]

I think I might have been hit by a different beast, because the entirety of my experience is finding NO vaults. After 8 labyrinths without one, I don't think it's an illusion but rather an unfortunate, actual clustering =P

That's what clustering illusion actually is; the "illusion" part where you think that something is wrong or missing from the game as a result of the clustering.

Actually looking at lab.des, some of the exit vaults look quite mazey anyway, so maybe you had a vault every time but didn't realise.

[njvack]

that most nebulous of monsters, the Clustering Illusion.

That should totally be a thing in the abyss.

Mara generally spawns in mid-D

[Psieye]

that most nebulous of monsters, the Clustering Illusion.

That should totally be a thing in the abyss.

Mara generally spawns in mid-D

Rakshasas and Boggarts were what came to my mind. Isn't Mara basically an uber Rakshasa anyway?

[siggboy]

that most nebulous of monsters, the Clustering Illusion.

That should totally be a thing in the abyss.

I meet them in the Abyss all the time! Have you never seen one? Is it just me?