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Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Thursday, 1st December 2011, 15:56
by FatBoy
Since the times when mummies and their already dead friends started to "contemplate the meaning of existence" why they are "dying" (You die...) when HP reaches zero value? Why not "Your existence is over" (another version is "Your unholy existence is over") or "Your body crumbles into pieces (or dust)".

Sorry for my bad english. May be this a tweak and should be reported using Mantis?

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Thursday, 1st December 2011, 19:30
by Roderic
IMHO, "You cease to exist" to those races which are not providing ghosts, otherwise "you die".

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Thursday, 1st December 2011, 20:21
by jejorda2
How about, "You end."

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Thursday, 1st December 2011, 22:17
by o_O
"you re-die"

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 03:38
by greepish
Nah, it's fine, you're just dead undead :D And when your'e raised you're undead undead, then die again you're dead undead undead.

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 04:14
by mageykun
If we're going to tweak the "You die..." messages for specific (undead) races, then I think that player mummies should get to see their death curses kick in on their way out. :P

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 04:40
by greepish
On that topic, maybe Xom should have randomized messages and funny stuff, like "Welcome to DIE!"

Edit: Also, as for undead, it could get more complicated than you think. What do you do with necromutated characters, or with fully satiated vampires?

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 04:49
by nicolae
Probably the best solution is to just get rid of death entirely.

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 04:59
by TwilightPhoenix
So, what then? Something like this?

The Ogre hits you with a giant spiked club!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You leave the dungeon in shame...

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 05:18
by FatBoy
Or: "You die... again"

So should it be reported like "tweak" in Mantis (I mean I'm new to "tavern" and dont know do developers visit is often) ?

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 08:40
by ElectricAlbatross
"You return to the world of the dead."

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 09:33
by pratamawirya
nicolae wrote:Probably the best solution is to just get rid of death entirely.

TwilightPhoenix wrote:So, what then? Something like this?

The Ogre hits you with a giant spiked club!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You leave the dungeon in shame...

HAHAHAHAHA

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Friday, 2nd December 2011, 10:39
by Galefury
FatBoy wrote:So should it be reported like "tweak" in Mantis (I mean I'm new to "tavern" and dont know do developers visit is often) ?

Mantis is for bug reports only. Feature requests and other suggestions go to the dev wiki. I cant find an appropriate page for this suggestion, this is the closest I found. I didn't do an in-depth search, so maybe you can find a better page. If you don't find one you should make a new page for message suggestions.

Short things like this can also be brought up and discussed on IRC. There usually are some devs in ##crawl-dev on freenode. They might also know the appropriate place to add this to the wiki.

Re: Life, Unlife and Existence

PostPosted: Saturday, 3rd December 2011, 01:11
by ekolis
greepish wrote:Nah, it's fine, you're just dead undead :D And when your'e raised you're undead undead, then die again you're dead undead undead.


What if you then become a Christian? Are you then a born-again dead undead undead? And if you fall away from the faith...