Nem and "wasting cards"

[Dingo]

I noticed that Nem gets pissy if I pull an attack card on a mob that is "turtling" (i.e. snails and turtles). What's up with that? I honestly just fragged a snapping turtle into so many uniform pieces of meat, and Nem called me out for "wasting cards." Pfff!

[XuaXua]

Turtling are not considered enemy targets for the purposes of the TAB auto-attack.

https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4536

Nemelex probably uses the same improper programmatic flag.

[Dingo]

I just pulled the Orb on a stone golem and Nem accused me of wasting cards again (it was a plain deck)

e - followed it up with some Frost and Vitriol from a legendary (which actually did a decent amount of damage) and Nemelex continued to whine

[TwilightPhoenix]

This confused me greatly.

[Galefury]

Take it to mantis so it gets fixed.

[XuaXua]

I believe it's a double-duplicate; search mantis first.

It's a play on the same issue where TAB does not detect shelled monsters hiding in their shells (snails, snapping turtles, etc.) It's a dupe and I think it's been reported from both a TAB and a Nemelex standpoint.

[Dingo]

Ah, thanks guys. New here and all. Yeah just seemed strange 'cause I can throw a wimpy frost puff at an ice demon and Nemelex is perfectly happy, but if I OOD a golem I get yelled at

[Galefury]

Sounds like a bug. The problem with enemies in shells is reported. The golem bug is not. I can't reproduce it in trunk wizmode though. What version are you playing? If any enemies (stone golems or not) are in sight I don't get memos about wasting cards from Nemelex, even if I zap at thin air. Only if no enemy is in sight I get a message.